If you were to replace an aging HP microserver with a new Dell what would
you choose? Very basic needs and low cost. Basically any current spec will
be a significant upgrade.
I set up my FIL with the microserver as an affordable small formfactor desktop for running linux. It's so long ago I can't remember exactly but could be 8 years ago, if not longer.
I've said to him that we should consider replacing it as it's getting old
and starting to struggle a bit.
Through his professional membership - despite being retired - he can get decent discounts on Dell machines. Hence the question.
I quite like the look of the Vostro 3710 as he'd still like to have an optical disk drive. Any other good options for running linux? Or should we avoid Dell altogether?
If you were to replace an aging HP microserver with a new Dell what would
you choose? Very basic needs and low cost. Basically any current spec will
be a significant upgrade.
I set up my FIL with the microserver as an affordable small formfactor desktop for running linux. It's so long ago I can't remember exactly but could be 8 years ago, if not longer.
I've said to him that we should consider replacing it as it's getting old
and starting to struggle a bit.
Through his professional membership - despite being retired - he can get decent discounts on Dell machines. Hence the question.
I quite like the look of the Vostro 3710 as he'd still like to have an optical disk drive. Any other good options for running linux? Or should we avoid Dell altogether?
On 7/9/22 05:44, Chris wrote:
If you were to replace an aging HP microserver with a new Dell what would
you choose? Very basic needs and low cost. Basically any current spec will >> be a significant upgrade.
I set up my FIL with the microserver as an affordable small formfactor
desktop for running linux. It's so long ago I can't remember exactly but
could be 8 years ago, if not longer.
I've said to him that we should consider replacing it as it's getting old
and starting to struggle a bit.
Through his professional membership - despite being retired - he can get
decent discounts on Dell machines. Hence the question.
I quite like the look of the Vostro 3710 as he'd still like to have an
optical disk drive. Any other good options for running linux? Or should we >> avoid Dell altogether?
Well I get very good sesrvice from my second hand DELL Latititude notebooks and laptop. I have a E6520, currently waiting for
memory upgrade, a E6540 with minor problems and this E7450. You can
see what OS I run in my next few lines. Dell used to provide a laptop
with Ubuntu intalled but that is not my favorite. Over on the PCLinux
forum lots of people are using both Dell Precisions of an age in
notebook and desktop form factors. That is the information I wanted
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If you were to replace an aging HP microserver with a new Dell what would...
you choose? Very basic needs and low cost. Basically any current spec will
be a significant upgrade.
Or should we
avoid Dell altogether?
Am 09.07.22 um 14:44 schrieb Chris:
If you were to replace an aging HP microserver with a new Dell what would
you choose? Very basic needs and low cost. Basically any current spec will >> be a significant upgrade.
I set up my FIL with the microserver as an affordable small formfactor
desktop for running linux. It's so long ago I can't remember exactly but
could be 8 years ago, if not longer.
I've said to him that we should consider replacing it as it's getting old
and starting to struggle a bit.
Through his professional membership - despite being retired - he can get
decent discounts on Dell machines. Hence the question.
I quite like the look of the Vostro 3710 as he'd still like to have an
optical disk drive. Any other good options for running linux? Or should we >> avoid Dell altogether?
Last year I bought a Dell Inspiron XPS-9310 with a preinstalled Ubuntu.
Cost roughly $1200 (CHG 1100). Perfect and easy to use solution.
In
general HP and Dell are well supported by Distros or if you want vice versa.
If that is too expensive look for a used machine. Avoid machines with
old fashioned optical devices and harddrives. Look for machines with a SSDs.
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
Am 09.07.22 um 14:44 schrieb Chris:
If you were to replace an aging HP microserver with a new Dell what would >>> you choose? Very basic needs and low cost. Basically any current spec will >>> be a significant upgrade.
I set up my FIL with the microserver as an affordable small formfactor
desktop for running linux. It's so long ago I can't remember exactly but >>> could be 8 years ago, if not longer.
I've said to him that we should consider replacing it as it's getting old >>> and starting to struggle a bit.
Through his professional membership - despite being retired - he can get >>> decent discounts on Dell machines. Hence the question.
I quite like the look of the Vostro 3710 as he'd still like to have an
optical disk drive. Any other good options for running linux? Or should we >>> avoid Dell altogether?
Last year I bought a Dell Inspiron XPS-9310 with a preinstalled Ubuntu.
Cost roughly $1200 (CHG 1100). Perfect and easy to use solution.
Thanks, but a laptop is not what I'm after.
In
general HP and Dell are well supported by Distros or if you want vice versa.
That was my suspicion thanks for confirming.
If that is too expensive look for a used machine. Avoid machines with
old fashioned optical devices and harddrives. Look for machines with a SSDs.
Yup. Definitely getting an SSD.
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> writes:
...
If you were to replace an aging HP microserver with a new Dell what would
you choose? Very basic needs and low cost. Basically any current spec will >> be a significant upgrade.
Or should we
avoid Dell altogether?
In my experience big manufacturers like HP (and I assume Dell) all
have proprietary stuff inside, so if a component (e.g., the power
supply) fails, you have trouble getting a replacement (beyond getting
a complete new box). Of course you can buy a support contract from
Dell, but then you have to factor in the cost of that. We also had HP servers with proprietary RAID controllers, which we could not use
under Linux or something; IIRC we used the disk controller from the
Intel chipset which fortunately also had SATA headers.
So what we do instead is to buy components from the DIY market, and
build our own servers. We select components that support ECC (if
that's an issue for you), and are generally happy with the result,
although in recent time we have had a few WTF moments when building
these things. And if you count the time for ordering the components
and building these things as expense only, it's probably uneconomical.
You can find out about some of our Ryzen-based servers here: <http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/ryzen-server.html>
If Ryzens are too expensive for you, Intel had ECC-capable Celerons
and Pentiums in earlier generations, not sure if they are still
available.
- anton
On 7/9/2022 1:15 PM, Anton Ertl wrote:
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> writes:
...
If you were to replace an aging HP microserver with a new Dell what would >>> you choose? Very basic needs and low cost. Basically any current spec will >>> be a significant upgrade.
Or should we
avoid Dell altogether?
In my experience big manufacturers like HP (and I assume Dell) all
have proprietary stuff inside, so if a component (e.g., the power
supply) fails, you have trouble getting a replacement (beyond getting
a complete new box).
"In my experience big manufacturers like HP (and I assume Dell) all
have proprietary stuff inside"
If you're referring to the Dell practice of using a non-standard
wiring harness for the main ATX connector, they stopped doing
that at least 15 years ago or more.
There is still the opportunity for the "formfactor" of the
computer you buy, to be inconvenient. If you buy an SFF or USFF
packaged computer
The experiences we have are with normal mini-towers and with servers
set up for a 19" rack.
- anton
On 7/9/2022 5:48 PM, Anton Ertl wrote:
The experiences we have are with normal mini-towers and with servers
set up for a 19" rack.
- anton
Would these HP PSUs be following some standard anyway ?
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