• Re: Poll: Why are you not a Usenet newsgroup moderator? (Warning: Sarca

    From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Sat Oct 14 15:38:42 2023
    XPost: alt.culture.usenet, news.groups

    Marco Moock wrote:

    schrieb Paul W. Schleck:

    "There are a number of existing Usenet newsgroups with no moderator:

    https://groups.google.com/g/news.groups/c/Pp2H754mV3E/m/khRrnN-1BgAJ
    but currently no volunteers. Why have you not volunteered?"

    Because, in general, I prefer unmoderated groups.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ClassicUsenet/comments/16l12t6/poll_why_are_you_not_a_usenet_newsgroup_moderator/

    Is there a list of those groups?

    It was in the first message in the thread above, here's a direct link

    <https://groups.google.com/g/news.groups/c/Pp2H754mV3E/m/HKoNBK8VBQAJ>

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 14 16:26:15 2023
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    Am 14.10.2023 um 13:46:46 Uhr schrieb Paul W. Schleck:

    "There are a number of existing Usenet newsgroups with no moderator:

    https://groups.google.com/g/news.groups/c/Pp2H754mV3E/m/khRrnN-1BgAJ

    but currently no volunteers. Why have you not volunteered?"

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ClassicUsenet/comments/16l12t6/poll_why_are_you_not_a_usenet_newsgroup_moderator/

    Is there a list of those groups?
    Where can candidates find information which groups are currently not
    usable because of lack of moderators?

    I found some groups and discussed that with the big 8 management.

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  • From rdh@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 19 10:09:34 2023
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    Because I don't want to be one.

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14/10/2023 14:46, Paul W. Schleck
    wrote:<br>
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    but currently no volunteers. Why have you not volunteered?"

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    Because I don't believe in moderated newsgroups. Newsgroups should
    be free for everybody to post. You don't have to discriminate on the
    grounds of religion or ethnic origin. Both Jews and Muslims should
    be allowed to post and argue their respective cases. No ifs or buts.<br>
    <br>
    Users can filter out posts (or obnoxious users) that they don't want
    to read or follow. For example, I don't like German Nazis or Russian
    or Italian mafias so I don't get any of their posts. Vlad Putin is
    disappointed by my stance but TOUGH!. I don't care about him.<br>
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  • From Paul W. Schleck@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Sat Oct 21 20:22:32 2023
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    In <kovnfhFoh2tU1@mid.individual.net> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes:

    Because, in general, I prefer unmoderated groups.

    In <OEbYM.22309$%WT8.900@fx12.iad> rdh <rdh@tilde.institute> writes:

    Because I don't want to be one.

    One person saying that they don't want to get involved is a personal
    choice, maybe a reflection on their own apathy and indifference. A
    whole community doing so has larger issues about collective motivations,
    and how it affects the overall state of that community.

    It reminds me of criticism of those who say, "I'm not political." This
    is a form of virtue- (or vice?)-signaling from those who have almost
    never never suffered from the shortcomings of the world, lack
    self-awareness of how they came to be so sheltered, and are indifferent
    to those that have suffered. And that's not just a left- or right-wing
    view, it's about basic civility, civics, and good-citizen/good-neighbor participation in public life.

    For those who say "I prefer" or "I don't want to," what do you consider
    a (pragmatically-achievable) ideal world, such as on Usenet, or Internet
    forums in general? And how should we get there?

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  • From Sn!pe@21:1/5 to Paul W. Schleck on Sat Nov 4 11:32:50 2023
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    Paul W. Schleck <pschleck@panix.com> wrote:


    Please excuse me being late to the party.


    "There are a number of existing Usenet newsgroups with no moderator:

    <https://groups.google.com/g/news.groups/c/Pp2H754mV3E/m/khRrnN-1BgAJ>


    That article is full of ad hominem abuse.


    but currently no volunteers. Why have you not volunteered?"


    A moderated Usenet newsgroup is controlled by the whim of one person
    or, at best, a small clique of moderators. Such a newsgroup is little different from a proprietory web forum where the owner may ban
    contributors on a whim.

    <https://www.reddit.com/r/ClassicUsenet/comments/16l12t6/poll_why_are_you_not_a_usenet_newsgroup_moderator/>


    That article's sarcasm ignored, the point is addressed above.

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