• Presentation

    From vallor@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 25 08:06:46 2023
    Rush, _2112_: Presentation

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di3q2bQUCdM

    So what's this "Presentation" all about?

    This: 🎸

    That is to say, modernizing Usenet by giving
    modest use of emojis a pass.

    That is my modest proposal.

    --
    -v
    (the emoji above is a guitar)

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  • From Tavis Ormandy@21:1/5 to vallor on Sat Mar 25 14:36:39 2023
    On 2023-03-25, vallor wrote:
    That is to say, modernizing Usenet by giving
    modest use of emojis a pass.


    👍

    --
    _o) $ lynx lock.cmpxchg8b.com
    /\\ _o) _o) $ finger taviso@sdf.org
    _\_V _( ) _( ) @taviso

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  • From jeshgrca@21:1/5 to Tavis Ormandy on Sat Mar 25 19:49:14 2023
    Tavis Ormandy <taviso@gmail.com> writes:

    On 2023-03-25, vallor wrote:
    That is to say, modernizing Usenet by giving
    modest use of emojis a pass.


    👍

    I understand the purpose, but for me in my text-only Gnus session all I
    see is some ASCII escape code-looking gibberish. One could almost
    certainly write some Elisp that causes Gnus to turn said gibberish into something like (guitar) or (smiley) though...
    --
    "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough."
    - Attributed to Albert Einstein

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  • From Grant Taylor@21:1/5 to jeshgrca on Sat Mar 25 19:25:13 2023
    On 3/25/23 6:49 PM, jeshgrca wrote:
    I understand the purpose, but for me in my text-only Gnus session all
    I see is some ASCII escape code-looking gibberish. One could almost
    certainly write some Elisp that causes Gnus to turn said gibberish
    into something like (guitar) or (smiley) though...

    Or at least turn it into something other than "gibberish". E.g. space,
    or an otherwise innocuous character.



    --
    Grant. . . .
    unix || die

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  • From jeshgrca@21:1/5 to Grant Taylor on Sat Mar 25 21:07:31 2023
    Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> writes:

    On 3/25/23 6:49 PM, jeshgrca wrote:
    I understand the purpose, but for me in my text-only Gnus session
    all I see is some ASCII escape code-looking gibberish. One could
    almost certainly write some Elisp that causes Gnus to turn said
    gibberish into something like (guitar) or (smiley) though...

    Or at least turn it into something other than "gibberish".
    E.g. space, or an otherwise innocuous character.

    This is what happens if I run Emacs in Xterm; it just makes an empty
    box. I would assume it's just using an escape code to show the emoji;
    the Linux TTY doesn't kow what to do with it and just prints the escape
    code as plain text, while Xterm is smart enough to turn it into a
    box. If I run Emacs in a fully graphical session though, it just prints
    the emoji like it should.
    --
    "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough."
    - Attributed to Albert Einstein

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to jeshgrca on Mon Mar 27 07:51:26 2023
    On Sat, 25 Mar 2023 21:07:31 -0500, jeshgrca wrote:

    Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> writes:

    On 3/25/23 6:49 PM, jeshgrca wrote:
    I understand the purpose, but for me in my text-only Gnus session all
    I see is some ASCII escape code-looking gibberish. One could almost
    certainly write some Elisp that causes Gnus to turn said gibberish
    into something like (guitar) or (smiley) though...

    Or at least turn it into something other than "gibberish".
    E.g. space, or an otherwise innocuous character.

    This is what happens if I run Emacs in Xterm; it just makes an empty
    box. I would assume it's just using an escape code to show the emoji;
    the Linux TTY doesn't kow what to do with it and just prints the escape
    code as plain text, while Xterm is smart enough to turn it into a box.
    If I run Emacs in a fully graphical session though, it just prints the
    emoji like it should.

    I use xfce4-terminal, which understands UTF-8.

    (Off topic: one can even have emojis in one's
    command prompts and window title strings,
    which should all be properly displayed using xfce4
    on Linux Mint.)

    Additionally, my newsreader (pan) supports inserting emojis
    in its internal editor. Yours might also. :)

    Live long and prosper. 🖖️

    --
    -v
    _[/tmp]_(vallor@eva)🦉_
    $

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  • From jeshgrca@21:1/5 to vallor on Mon Mar 27 07:48:30 2023
    vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> writes:

    On Sat, 25 Mar 2023 21:07:31 -0500, jeshgrca wrote:

    Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> writes:

    On 3/25/23 6:49 PM, jeshgrca wrote:
    I understand the purpose, but for me in my text-only Gnus session all
    I see is some ASCII escape code-looking gibberish. One could almost
    certainly write some Elisp that causes Gnus to turn said gibberish
    into something like (guitar) or (smiley) though...

    Or at least turn it into something other than "gibberish".
    E.g. space, or an otherwise innocuous character.

    This is what happens if I run Emacs in Xterm; it just makes an empty
    box. I would assume it's just using an escape code to show the emoji;
    the Linux TTY doesn't kow what to do with it and just prints the escape
    code as plain text, while Xterm is smart enough to turn it into a box.
    If I run Emacs in a fully graphical session though, it just prints the
    emoji like it should.

    I use xfce4-terminal, which understands UTF-8.

    (Off topic: one can even have emojis in one's
    command prompts and window title strings,
    which should all be properly displayed using xfce4
    on Linux Mint.)

    Additionally, my newsreader (pan) supports inserting emojis
    in its internal editor. Yours might also. :)

    Live long and prosper. 🖖️

    After doing a bit more research, it would appear I have emoji support as
    I can run commands like 'M-x emoji-describe', but Emacs just throws an
    error, almost certainly due to my highly modified alpha build.

    Time to debug some more Elisp...
    --
    "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough."
    - Attributed to Albert Einstein

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to jeshgrca on Sun Apr 16 22:07:44 2023
    On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 07:48:30 -0500, jeshgrca wrote:

    vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> writes:

    On Sat, 25 Mar 2023 21:07:31 -0500, jeshgrca wrote:

    Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> writes:

    On 3/25/23 6:49 PM, jeshgrca wrote:
    I understand the purpose, but for me in my text-only Gnus session
    all I see is some ASCII escape code-looking gibberish. One could
    almost certainly write some Elisp that causes Gnus to turn said
    gibberish into something like (guitar) or (smiley) though...

    Or at least turn it into something other than "gibberish".
    E.g. space, or an otherwise innocuous character.

    This is what happens if I run Emacs in Xterm; it just makes an empty
    box. I would assume it's just using an escape code to show the emoji;
    the Linux TTY doesn't kow what to do with it and just prints the
    escape code as plain text, while Xterm is smart enough to turn it into
    a box. If I run Emacs in a fully graphical session though, it just
    prints the emoji like it should.

    I use xfce4-terminal, which understands UTF-8.

    (Off topic: one can even have emojis in one's command prompts and
    window title strings,
    which should all be properly displayed using xfce4 on Linux Mint.)

    Additionally, my newsreader (pan) supports inserting emojis in its
    internal editor. Yours might also. :)

    Live long and prosper. 🖖️

    After doing a bit more research, it would appear I have emoji support as
    I can run commands like 'M-x emoji-describe', but Emacs just throws an
    error, almost certainly due to my highly modified alpha build.

    Time to debug some more Elisp...

    (What does bleeding-edge Emacs give you that a standard installation
    doesn't?)

    Seems like Gnus should "just handle it", assuming you're using
    a UTF-8 terminal...alas, it would appear that your xterm
    is just too old to understand UTF-8.

    ✍️

    --
    -v
    💃️👯️

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