• Re: Whaley was right: Neches and Beckley do intersect

    From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to hsienzant@aol.com on Tue Feb 20 16:19:17 2024
    On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 15:48:23 -0800 (PST), Hank Sienzant
    <hsienzant@aol.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 5:33:52?PM UTC-5, Donald Willis wrote:
    Whaley was right: Neches and Beckley do intersect

    As I have noted, the online reproduction of CE 371 is poor. But with the aid of an old-fashioned fold-up map and Google Maps, I was able to spot the "X" on 371 which Ball and Whaley said was where the latter left Oswald off in Oak Cliff. It is
    centered just above and a bit west of the intersection where Zang, Beckley, and El Dorado meet. That "X" is far from Neely, but near Neches. In fact, El Dorado is really a continuation of Neches, and it does intersect Beckley. And it's a short street,
    only three blocks long; Neches is 11 blocks long. Oswald may not have even realized that, going east, Neches becomes El Dorado two blocks before Beckley. Oswald, then, must have re-directed Whaley, en route, with an instruction like "Neches near Beckley",
    and Whaley dropped him off at Beckley and El Dorado, the extension of Neches. ("This will do fine.") And when Whaley says, of the "X" spot, with some certainty, "This is the intersection right there", he must be going by--not numbers or street
    names--but by the distinctive configuration of the intersection: Beckley is strictly north/south, but Zang comes in to Beckley at like a 30-degree angle, and El Dorado/Neches goes out from Beckley at about the same angle. Whaley recognized that
    particular intersection. (By contrast, the Beckley/Neely intersection is strictly north-south/east-west. *Not* the intersection.) Whaley was confused by many things, but not by "Neches". (For instance, it's apparently "Zang", not "Zangs", as Whaley had
    it.)

    dcw

    Accepting all that for the sake of argument, how does that:
    A. Come close to disproving Oswald shot Tippit?

    Can you name this logical fallacy?

    Or will you run away like the coward you are again?

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 21 07:50:52 2024
    On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:55:08 -0800 (PST), Bud <sirslick@fast.net>
    wrote:

    I`m also very confused...

    Of course you are...

    So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
    "virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?

    Chickenshit is TERRIFIED of this simple honest question. He knows
    that Bugliosi was a moron if he truly thought this... yet you can't
    get Chickenshit to publicly acknowledge that Bugliosi said this.

    It's a simple "Yes" or "No" question, and Chickenshit cannot cite
    where he has EVER answered it. (Without immediately denying it.)

    So it's going to keep getting asked until Chickenshit answers it.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 21 11:55:49 2024
    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 09:58:33 -0800 (PST), Bud <sirslick@fast.net>
    wrote:

    I`m also very confused...

    Of course you are...

    So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
    "virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?

    Chickenshit is TERRIFIED of this simple honest question. He knows
    that Bugliosi was a moron if he truly thought this... yet you can't
    get Chickenshit to publicly acknowledge that Bugliosi said this.

    It's a simple "Yes" or "No" question, and Chickenshit cannot cite
    where he has EVER answered it. (Without immediately denying it.)

    So it's going to keep getting asked until Chickenshit answers it.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to hsienzant@aol.com on Wed Feb 21 11:55:49 2024
    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 10:33:11 -0800 (PST), Hank Sienzant
    <hsienzant@aol.com> wrote:


    Don? Why don't you clarify your thinking here?

    Why are *YOU* afraid to do so?

    You've claimed that the "A.B.C.D." in the Autopsy Report is the
    description of the *location* of the large head wound.

    Yet you refuse time and time again from QUOTING the preceding
    paragraph that describes what this ACTUALLY is. Why is that?

    You've also claimed that the prosectors dissected the throat wound.

    Why do you continue to refuse to cite any evidence for this?

    Why have you CONSISTENTLY run away each time I raise this issue?

    Now you've quite stupidly insisted that the bullet entered JFK's back,
    and exited the back of his head.

    More cowardice, more stupidity, more dishonesty.

    Are you proud of yourself?

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 21 15:34:35 2024
    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 14:32:06 -0800 (PST), Bud <sirslick@fast.net>
    wrote:

    So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
    "virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?

    Chickenshit is TERRIFIED of this simple honest question. He knows
    that Bugliosi was a moron if he truly thought this... yet you can't
    get Chickenshit to publicly acknowledge that Bugliosi said this.

    It's a simple "Yes" or "No" question, and Chickenshit cannot cite
    where he has EVER answered it. (Without immediately denying it.)

    So it's going to keep getting asked until Chickenshit answers it.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to hsienzant@aol.com on Wed Feb 21 15:45:13 2024
    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 15:33:39 -0800 (PST), Hank Sienzant
    <hsienzant@aol.com> wrote:

    Bizarre.

    What's bizarre is that you think you can lie to support the "truth."

    If the truth requires lies to support it, it's not the truth.

    Don't you understand that?

    You've claimed that the "A.B.C.D." in the Autopsy Report is the
    description of the *location* of the large head wound.

    Yet you refuse time and time again from QUOTING the preceding
    paragraph that describes what this ACTUALLY is. Why is that?

    You've also claimed that the prosectors dissected the throat wound.

    Why do you continue to refuse to cite any evidence for this?

    Why have you CONSISTENTLY run away each time I raise this issue?

    Now you've quite stupidly insisted that the bullet entered JFK's back,
    and exited the back of his head.

    More cowardice, more stupidity, more dishonesty.

    Are you proud of yourself?

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 21 16:35:21 2024
    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 16:01:26 -0800 (PST), Bud <sirslick@fast.net>
    wrote:

    And for years ...

    You've been running.

    So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
    "virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?

    Chickenshit is TERRIFIED of this simple honest question. He knows
    that Bugliosi was a moron if he truly thought this... yet you can't
    get Chickenshit to publicly acknowledge that Bugliosi said this.

    It's a simple "Yes" or "No" question, and Chickenshit cannot cite
    where he has EVER answered it. (Without immediately denying it.)

    So it's going to keep getting asked until Chickenshit answers it.

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