• The Truth That WCR Believers Run From... #15

    From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 19 07:15:53 2024
    Does anyone sense any pattern of evidence here? Is there any believer
    willing to say the words "white shirt?" Is there a *SINGLE* honest
    believer who will publicly admit what the evidence here shows? Can
    *any* believer admit that Oswald doesn't fit this description?

    Johnny Brewer peeked through the curtains and pointed to a man wearing
    a long-sleeved brown shirt and told Westbrook, "The man in the 4th row
    from the back in the middle aisle is the man." But the suspect sitting
    at the rear of the semi-darkened theater did not fit the description
    of the man who shot Tippit. From the statements of eyewitnesses the
    police dispatcher reported the suspect was wearing a white jacket
    (discarded at the Texaco station) and a white T-shirt, yet the man
    pointed out by Brewer to Captain Westbrook was wearing a long-sleeved,
    dark brown shirt.

    Does anyone sense a conflict between how all the witnesses described
    the murderer and the actual person arrested? Will any honest believer
    publicly acknowledge this?

    I know it requires absolutely basic thinking skills to recognize that
    Oswald wasn't wearing a white shirt, and that he simply didn't fit the
    mass of eyewitness descriptions.

    Amusingly, the suspect in a white shirt **WAS** arrested at the
    theater... as the website "Kennedyandking.com" notes: Bernard Haire,
    owner of a hobby shop two doors from the theater, walked out the rear
    of his shop shortly before 2:00 PM and saw police cars backed up to
    Madison Street. He watched as the police escorted a man from the rear
    of the Texas Theater wearing a "white pullover shirt." They placed the
    man in a squad car and drove away. He noticed the man was very "flush"
    in the face as though he had been in a struggle. Haire's description
    of this man-"white shirt" with a "flush face"-is consistent with
    witness statements of Tippit's killer before, during and after the
    shooting. For 25 years Mr. Haire and other witnesses thought they had
    witnessed the arrest of Oswald behind the Texas Theater in the alley.
    When told Oswald was brought out the front of the theater Haire asked
    "Then who was the person I saw police take out the rear of the
    theater, put in a police car, and drive off?"

    No wonder the witness list from the theater disappeared... there were
    24 witnesses there who might have been able to clear Oswald (perhaps
    able to testify that Oswald arrived at the theater too early to have
    shot Tippit?) or to have seen multiple arrests. Either scenario plays
    havoc with the Warren Commission's theory.

    So far, I've shown how the Warren Commission lied about the evidence
    for at *least* two assassins - I've shown how there was some
    hanky-panky going on during Oswald's arrest - and shown how evidence
    is missing in this case.

    Once it's been demonstrated that evidence was lied about - and
    evidence simply "disappeared" in this case - the Warren Commission is
    finished.

    It then is no longer the "default" position by which everything else
    needs to be judged. And unless believers can credibly explain the
    facts I've thus far presented - they've lost.

    For you cannot use lies as the foundation of anything at all.

    And while Chuckles, Chickenshit, and Davy Von Penis can be forgiven
    for not answering these facts due to their ignorance of the case -
    Huckster Sienzant knows these facts... and provably runs from them.

    What a coward!!

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to hsienzant@aol.com on Tue Jan 23 08:14:45 2024
    On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 07:58:28 -0800 (PST), Hank Sienzant
    <hsienzant@aol.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 7:37:31?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 6:34:18?PM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote:
    And don't forget, Brewer saw Oswald punch Officer McDonald AND pull a revolver on that officer.
    You sure about that Hank ? He saw Oswald pull a revolver ?

    Yes. He said he saw it in Oswald’s hand when he first saw it:


    In other words, you lied.

    You can go ahead and admit it, Huckster...


    Because he testified that he never saw where the gun came from.
    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/brewer-never-saw-where-gun-came-from.gif

    SMH

    So what?


    Gil just proved you a iiar, that's what.

    Not that we needed any further proof.

    Amusingly, YOU CAN'T EVEN ADMIT that you got caught lying.


    The revolver in evidence is traceable to Oswald by business records.


    An assumption on your part, with nothing to cite... And has *NOTHING*
    to do with your lie.


    Do you think Officer McDonald just happened to be in possession of
    Oswald’s revolver at the time of the encounter in the theatre?


    Can you name this logical fallacy?


    If not, where do you think the weapon came from?


    No need to answer logical fallacies, you merely point'em out, and move
    on.


    Please offer a reasonable explanation that a commonplace jury of 12 will accept.


    Already have - and most of America accepts a conspiracy in this case.


    Especially when the jury...


    The jury has already been polled.

    You lose!


    Go ahead, we’ll wait.


    Said the coward who can't answer this:

    You've claimed that the "A.B.C.D." in the Autopsy Report is the
    description of the *location* of the large head wound.

    Yet you refuse time and time again from QUOTING the preceding
    paragraph that describes what this ACTUALLY is. Why is that?

    You've also claimed that the prosectors dissected the throat wound.

    Why do you continue to refuse to cite any evidence for this?

    Why have you CONSISTENTLY run away each time I raise this issue?

    Now you've quite stupidly insisted that the bullet entered JFK's back,
    and exited the back of his head.

    More cowardice, more stupidity, more dishonesty.

    Are you proud of yourself?

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to gjjmail1202@gmail.com on Tue Jan 23 08:14:45 2024
    On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 04:37:29 -0800 (PST), Gil Jesus
    <gjjmail1202@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 6:34:18?PM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote:
    And don't forget, Brewer saw Oswald punch Officer McDonald AND pull a revolver on that officer.

    You sure about that Hank ? He saw Oswald pull a revolver ?

    Because he testified that he never saw where the gun came from. >https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/brewer-never-saw-where-gun-came-from.gif

    SMH

    This is one of the basic problems - you have to fact check EVERY
    SINGLE STATEMENT made by a believer - they CONSTANTLY lie.

    Or run away... such as this example:

    You've claimed that the "A.B.C.D." in the Autopsy Report is the
    description of the *location* of the large head wound.

    Yet you refuse time and time again from QUOTING the preceding
    paragraph that describes what this ACTUALLY is. Why is that?

    You've also claimed that the prosectors dissected the throat wound.

    Why do you continue to refuse to cite any evidence for this?

    Why have you CONSISTENTLY run away each time I raise this issue?

    Now you've quite stupidly insisted that the bullet entered JFK's back,
    and exited the back of his head.

    More cowardice, more stupidity, more dishonesty.

    Are you proud of yourself?

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to gjjmail1202@gmail.com on Tue Jan 23 10:29:46 2024
    On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 09:36:54 -0800 (PST), Gil Jesus
    <gjjmail1202@gmail.com> wrote:


    On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 6:34:18?PM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote:
    And don't forget, Brewer saw Oswald punch Officer McDonald AND pull a revolver on that officer.

    On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 7:37:31?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    You sure about that Hank ? He saw Oswald pull a revolver ?

    On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 10:58:29?AM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote:
    Yes. He said he saw it in Oswald’s hand when he first saw it:
    == quote ==
    Mr. BREWER - Oswald hit McDonald first, and he knocked him to the seat.
    Mr. BELIN - Who knocked who?
    Mr. BREWER - He knocked McDonald down. McDonald fell against one of the seats. And then real quick he was back up.
    Mr. BELIN - When you say he was----
    Mr. BREWER - McDonald was back up. He just knocked him down for a second and he was back up. And I jumped off the stage and was walking toward that, and I saw this gun come up and----in Oswald's hand, a gun up in the air.
    Mr. BELIN - Did you see from where the gun came?
    Mr. BREWER - No.

    Mr. BELIN - You saw the gun up in the air?
    Mr. BREWER - And somebody hollered, "He's got a gun."
    == unquote ==

    On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 7:37:31?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    Because he testified that he never saw where the gun came from.
    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/brewer-never-saw-where-gun-came-from.gif

    SMH

    On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 10:58:29?AM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote:
    So what?

    So you lied. You said, "Brewer saw Oswald punch Officer McDonald AND pull a revolver on that officer."
    Brewer said he saw the gun in Oswald's hand and the gun was pointed in the air. When you pull a gun on someone, you aim it AT them.
    Oswald never pulled a gun on MacDonald.
    And Brewer never said he saw Oswald PULL the gun from his waistband.

    Mr. BELIN - Did you see from where the gun came?
    Mr. BREWER - No.

    So you're intepretation of what happened is bullshit, as usual.


    Yep... Huckster Sienzant is a brazen liar. With luck, he'll be gone
    on Feb. 22 too...

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to hsienzant@aol.com on Tue Jan 23 10:28:29 2024
    On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 08:44:37 -0800 (PST), Hank Sienzant
    <hsienzant@aol.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 11:14:51?AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 07:58:28 -0800 (PST), Hank Sienzant
    <hsie...@aol.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 7:37:31?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 6:34:18?PM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote: >>>>> And don't forget, Brewer saw Oswald punch Officer McDonald AND pull a revolver on that officer.
    You sure about that Hank ? He saw Oswald pull a revolver ?

    Yes. He said he saw it in Oswald’s hand when he first saw it:
    In other words, you lied.

    No, I reached the reasonable conclusion.


    You stated your "conclusion" as a fact.

    That's a lie.

    Live with it.


    You can go ahead and admit it, Huckster...


    Or lie and run away... as you've done.


    Because he testified that he never saw where the gun came from.
    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/brewer-never-saw-where-gun-came-from.gif

    SMH

    So what?
    Gil just proved you a iiar, that's what.

    No...


    Yes.


    Not that we needed any further proof.

    Amusingly, YOU CAN'T EVEN ADMIT that you got caught lying.

    Because I didn't.


    Then cite for your claim.

    But you can't.

    You lied.


    The revolver in evidence is traceable to Oswald by business records.
    An assumption on your part, with nothing to cite... And has *NOTHING*
    to do with your lie.

    The revolver taken from Oswald’s hand...


    Even if true, has **NOTHING** to do with your lie.


    Do you think Officer McDonald just happened to be in possession of
    Oswald’s revolver at the time of the encounter in the theatre?
    Can you name this logical fallacy?


    Huckster couldn't do it.


    If not, where do you think the weapon came from?
    No need to answer logical fallacies, you merely point'em out, and move
    on.


    Huckster ran again...


    Please offer a reasonable explanation that a commonplace jury of 12 will accept.
    Already have - and most of America accepts a conspiracy in this case.

    No, you didn't...


    A CONSPIRACY TOOK JFK'S LIFE... this entire series shows this.

    Amusingly, I'm providing a scenario that **YOU CAN'T REPLICATE!!**


    Especially when the jury...


    The jury has already been polled.

    No...


    You can lie, moron - but polls have been conducted many times on the
    issue of the JFK assassination...


    You lose!
    Go ahead, we’ll wait.
    Said the coward who can't answer this:

    Ben couldn't wait to change the subject.

    Huckster couldn't wait to snip this, and run away:

    You've claimed that the "A.B.C.D." in the Autopsy Report is the
    description of the *location* of the large head wound.

    Yet you refuse time and time again from QUOTING the preceding
    paragraph that describes what this ACTUALLY is. Why is that?

    You've also claimed that the prosectors dissected the throat wound.

    Why do you continue to refuse to cite any evidence for this?

    Why have you CONSISTENTLY run away each time I raise this issue?

    Now you've quite stupidly insisted that the bullet entered JFK's back,
    and exited the back of his head.

    More cowardice, more stupidity, more dishonesty.

    Are you proud of yourself?

    Huckster knows he lost.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to hsienzant@aol.com on Tue Jan 23 10:32:49 2024
    On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 08:54:01 -0800 (PST), Hank Sienzant
    <hsienzant@aol.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 11:14:51?AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 15:34:16 -0800 (PST), Hank Sienzant
    <hsie...@aol.com> wrote:
    On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 10:15:58?AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    Does anyone sense any pattern of evidence here? Is there any believer
    willing to say the words "white shirt?" Is there a *SINGLE* honest
    believer who will publicly admit what the evidence here shows? Can
    *any* believer admit that Oswald doesn't fit this description?

    Johnny Brewer peeked through the curtains and pointed to a man wearing >>>> a long-sleeved brown shirt and told Westbrook, "The man in the 4th row >>>> from the back in the middle aisle is the man." But the suspect sitting >>>> at the rear of the semi-darkened theater did not fit the description
    of the man who shot Tippit.

    Hilarious! Brewer was *NOT* a witness to the Tippit [hs] shooting, and he was *NOT* identifying the man he thought shot Tippit.
    Molesting your own mother again, aren't you? You'll be COMPLETELY
    unable to point to anything I said that supports what you just
    claimed.


    Notice that when challenged to point to anything I said that supports
    this, Huckster can't. And merely doubles down again:


    You were talking about how Brewer’s man didn't match the man in the Tippit shooting:


    Still molesting your grandmother?


    Here's what the coward snipped without response:

    You've claimed that the "A.B.C.D." in the Autopsy Report is the
    description of the *location* of the large head wound.

    Yet you refuse time and time again from QUOTING the preceding
    paragraph that describes what this ACTUALLY is. Why is that?

    You've also claimed that the prosectors dissected the throat wound.

    Why do you continue to refuse to cite any evidence for this?

    Why have you CONSISTENTLY run away each time I raise this issue?

    Now you've quite stupidly insisted that the bullet entered JFK's back,
    and exited the back of his head.

    More cowardice, more stupidity, more dishonesty.

    Are you proud of yourself?

    Cowards run, that's what cowards do - no-one will ever see Huckster
    answering this - as he has no answer. He'd be embarrassed by his
    fellow believers if he could tell the truth.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to hsienzant@aol.com on Thu Jan 25 07:21:49 2024
    On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 16:03:33 -0800 (PST), Hank Sienzant
    <hsienzant@aol.com> wrote:


    And don't forget, Brewer saw Oswald punch Officer McDonald AND pull a revolver on that officer.

    See if you can follow my logic. Let me know where I lose you:

    Did Brewer see Oswald pull a revolver?

    You said he did.

    The FACTS say that he didn't.

    You lied.

    What statement was it where I lost you?

    And... lest anyone forget that you're not just a liar, but a coward
    too, here's the post you keep running from:

    You've claimed that the "A.B.C.D." in the Autopsy Report is the
    description of the *location* of the large head wound.

    Yet you refuse time and time again from QUOTING the preceding
    paragraph that describes what this ACTUALLY is. Why is that?

    You've also claimed that the prosectors dissected the throat wound.

    Why do you continue to refuse to cite any evidence for this?

    Why have you CONSISTENTLY run away each time I raise this issue?

    Now you've quite stupidly insisted that the bullet entered JFK's back,
    and exited the back of his head.

    More cowardice, more stupidity, more dishonesty.

    Are you proud of yourself?

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to gjjmail1202@gmail.com on Thu Jan 25 07:21:39 2024
    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 04:45:52 -0800 (PST), Gil Jesus
    <gjjmail1202@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 8:56:03?PM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote:

    We'll await your reconstruction of the event and how Brewer saw a gun in Oswald's hand that Oswald didn't pull from his waist.

    Go ahead...

    You're the "more knowledgeable" one and I have to keep explaining things to you ?

    George Applin told reporter Earl Golz that he thought the gun came from the officer's holster.

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/golz-applin.png

    Ever hear of the term "drop gun" ? Probably not.
    A “drop gun” was a weapon that was usually planted on someone by police, or at the scene of a crime in order to implicate that person of a crime.
    The gun itself would be one that could not be traced back to the cop who planted it.

    McDonald testified:

    “It was just natural that my hand went to his waist for a weapon, which was my intent anyway, whether he raised his hands or not.” ( 3 H 303 )

    Natural ? No, that’s not the way it’s done.
    You don't shake down a suspect beginning at his waist. You always start at the shoulders and work down.

    Combine this with what George Applin told Earl Golz that he believed the revolver came from McDonald, and the evidence seems to support a planting of the revolver.
    Is this why Oswald threw a punch at McDonald, because he stuffed a revolver in his waistband ?

    McDonald testified that Oswald drew the weapon as he put his hand on Oswald’s waist. ( 3 H 300 )

    But Officer C.T. Walker testified that Oswald did not immediately pull the revolver when he knocked McDonald back against the seats.
    “..it stayed there for a second or two. He didn’t get it out. ” ( Testimony of C.T. Walker, 7 H 39 )

    Why not ? Why did he not display an intent to use it ?

    And why did McDonald lie ?

    Why did McDonald also lie about getting the webbing of his hand between the firing pin and the cartridge's primer ? The FBI found that the hammer would have had to have been cocked all the way back in order for the firing pin to hit the primer. ( 3 H
    463 ) That would have caused an enormous amount of pain for McDonald.
    Why did no one report his screams of agony ? Why is there no record of his receiving medical attention for his injury ?

    McDonald also lied about the gun misfiring. The FBI found that the mark on one of the unfired rounds was not made by the weapon's firing pin. ( 3 H 460 )
    Which means it was planted.

    That's your star witness, Hank. The liar McDonald who lied about being injured, who lied about the gun misfiring and who was probably the one who planted the fake mark on the cartridge
    to try to support his story.

    And if they planted the mark on the cartridge, how do you know they didn't plant the weapon ?

    Who would have handed McDonald a weapon to plant on Oswald ?
    That's easy. Capt. W.R Westbrook.
    McDonald and Capt. Westbrook knew each other. In fact, Westbrook was previously McDonald’s commanding officer in another division. ( 7 H 112 )
    So they were well acquainted with each other. And Westbrook was CIA.

    McDonald's whole version of events is debunked by the evidence and testimony. >Anyone who believes him believes in unicorns and sugar-plum-fairies.

    Of course, Brewer did not say what Huckster claimed he said.

    Huckster Sienzant is forced to rely on lies to support his faith. He
    clearly doesn't have facts.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 25 07:41:03 2024
    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 07:31:30 -0800 (PST), Bud <sirslick@fast.net>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 7:45:54?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 8:56:03?PM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote:

    We'll await your reconstruction of the event and how Brewer saw a gun in Oswald's hand that Oswald didn't pull from his waist.

    Go ahead...
    You're the "more knowledgeable" one and I have to keep explaining things to you ?

    George Applin told reporter Earl Golz that he thought the gun came from the officer's holster.

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/golz-applin.png

    Ever hear of the term "drop gun" ? Probably not.
    A “drop gun” was a weapon that was usually planted on someone by police, or at the scene of a crime in order to implicate that person of a crime.
    The gun itself would be one that could not be traced back to the cop who planted it.


    Logical fallacies deleted.


    McDonald testified:

    “It was just natural that my hand went to his waist for a weapon, which was my intent anyway, whether he raised his hands or not.” ( 3 H 303 )

    Natural ? No, that’s not the way it’s done.
    You don't shake down a suspect beginning at his waist. You always start at the shoulders and work down.

    Combine this with what George Applin told Earl Golz that he believed the revolver came from McDonald, and the evidence seems to support a planting of the revolver.
    Is this why Oswald threw a punch at McDonald, because he stuffed a revolver in his waistband ?

    McDonald testified that Oswald drew the weapon as he put his hand on Oswald’s waist. ( 3 H 300 )

    But Officer C.T. Walker testified that Oswald did not immediately pull the revolver when he knocked McDonald back against the seats.
    “..it stayed there for a second or two. He didn’t get it out. ” ( Testimony of C.T. Walker, 7 H 39 )

    Why not ? Why did he not display an intent to use it ?

    And why did McDonald lie ?

    Why did McDonald also lie about getting the webbing of his hand between the firing pin and the cartridge's primer ? The FBI found that the hammer would have had to have been cocked all the way back in order for the firing pin to hit the primer. ( 3 H
    463 ) That would have caused an enormous amount of pain for McDonald.
    Why did no one report his screams of agony ? Why is there no record of his receiving medical attention for his injury ?

    McDonald also lied about the gun misfiring. The FBI found that the mark on one of the unfired rounds was not made by the weapon's firing pin. ( 3 H 460 )
    Which means it was planted.

    That's your star witness, Hank. The liar McDonald who lied about being injured, who lied about the gun misfiring and who was probably the one who planted the fake mark on the cartridge
    to try to support his story.

    And if they planted the mark on the cartridge, how do you know they didn't plant the weapon ?

    Who would have handed McDonald a weapon to plant on Oswald ?
    That's easy. Capt. W.R Westbrook.
    McDonald and Capt. Westbrook knew each other. In fact, Westbrook was previously McDonald’s commanding officer in another division. ( 7 H 112 )
    So they were well acquainted with each other. And Westbrook was CIA.

    McDonald's whole version of events is debunked by the evidence and testimony.
    Anyone who believes him believes in unicorns and sugar-plum-fairies.

    Notice these facts that Chickenshit was unable to refute...

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to Or show that Brewer on Thu Jan 25 07:42:58 2024
    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 07:35:12 -0800 (PST), Bud <sirslick@fast.net>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 10:21:54?AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 17:56:02 -0800 (PST), Hank Sienzant
    <hsie...@aol.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 12:36:56?PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 6:34:18?PM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote: >>>>>>> And don't forget, Brewer saw Oswald punch Officer McDonald AND pull a revolver on that officer.
    ...
    Well, let's look at the testimony of another witness...

    Did another witness say that Brewer saw Oswald pull a revolver?

    If you were honest, you'd be forced to say "No."

    The old legal trope...


    Has nothing to do with the lie that Huckster told.

    And amusingly, you can't admit that he lied.

    Or show that Brewer said what Huckster claimed he'd said...


    But you aren't honest - and judging by the following, you're also a
    coward:
    You've claimed that the "A.B.C.D." in the Autopsy Report is the
    description of the *location* of the large head wound.

    Yet you refuse time and time again from QUOTING the preceding
    paragraph that describes what this ACTUALLY is. Why is that?

    You've also claimed that the prosectors dissected the throat wound.

    Why do you continue to refuse to cite any evidence for this?

    Why have you CONSISTENTLY run away each time I raise this issue?

    Now you've quite stupidly insisted that the bullet entered JFK's back,
    and exited the back of his head.

    More cowardice, more stupidity, more dishonesty.

    Are you proud of yourself?

    Chickenshit is provably not just a liar, but also a coward:

    So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
    "virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?

    Chickenshit is TERRIFIED of this simple honest question. He knows
    that Bugliosi was a moron if he truly thought this... yet you can't
    get Chickenshit to publicly acknowledge that Bugliosi said this.

    It's a simple "Yes" or "No" question, and Chickenshit cannot cite
    where he has EVER answered it. (Without immediately denying it.)

    So it's going to keep getting asked until Chickenshit answers it.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to hsienzant@aol.com on Thu Jan 25 08:09:56 2024
    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 07:50:57 -0800 (PST), Hank Sienzant
    <hsienzant@aol.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 7:45:54?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 8:56:03?PM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote:

    We'll await your reconstruction of the event and how Brewer saw a gun in Oswald's hand that Oswald didn't pull from his waist.

    Go ahead...
    You're the "more knowledgeable" one and I have to keep explaining things to you ?

    George Applin told reporter Earl Golz that he thought the gun came from the officer's holster.

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/golz-applin.png


    1. What is the testimony or hearsay or ANYTHING that led you to claim
    that Brewer saw Oswald pull a revolver?

    2. What is the testimony or hearsay or ANYTHING that led you to claim
    that Brewer saw Oswald pull a revolver?

    3. What is the testimony or hearsay or ANYTHING that led you to claim
    that Brewer saw Oswald pull a revolver?

    4. What is the testimony or hearsay or ANYTHING that led you to claim
    that Brewer saw Oswald pull a revolver?

    5. What is the testimony or hearsay or ANYTHING that led you to claim
    that Brewer saw Oswald pull a revolver?

    6. What is the testimony or hearsay or ANYTHING that led you to claim
    that Brewer saw Oswald pull a revolver?

    7. What is the testimony or hearsay or ANYTHING that led you to claim
    that Brewer saw Oswald pull a revolver?

    8. What is the testimony or hearsay or ANYTHING that led you to claim
    that Brewer saw Oswald pull a revolver?

    Your lie makes no sense on so many levels.



    Ever hear of the term "drop gun" ? Probably not.
    A “drop gun” was a weapon that was usually planted on someone by police, or at the scene of a crime in order to implicate that person of a crime.
    The gun itself would be one that could not be traced back to the cop who planted it.

    McDonald testified:

    “It was just natural that my hand went to his waist for a weapon, which was my intent anyway, whether he raised his hands or not.” ( 3 H 303 )

    Natural ? No, that’s not the way it’s done.

    You don't shake down a suspect beginning at his waist. You always start at the shoulders and work down.

    Combine this with what George Applin told Earl Golz that he believed the revolver came from McDonald, and the evidence seems to support a planting of the revolver.

    McDonald testified that Oswald drew the weapon as he put his hand on Oswald’s waist. ( 3 H 300 )

    But Officer C.T. Walker testified that Oswald did not immediately pull the revolver when he knocked McDonald back against the seats.
    “..it stayed there for a second or two. He didn’t get it out. ” ( Testimony of C.T. Walker, 7 H 39 )

    Why not ? Why did he not display an intent to use it ?

    And why did McDonald lie ?

    Why did McDonald also lie about getting the webbing of his hand between the firing pin and the cartridge's primer ? The FBI found that the hammer would have had to have been cocked all the way back in order for the firing pin to hit the primer. ( 3 H
    463 ) That would have caused an enormous amount of pain for McDonald.

    Why did no one report his screams of agony ? Why is there no record of his receiving medical attention for his injury ?

    McDonald also lied about the gun misfiring. The FBI found that the mark on one of the unfired rounds was not made by the weapon's firing pin. ( 3 H 460 )

    That's your star witness, Hank. The liar McDonald who lied about being injured,
    who lied about the gun misfiring and who was probably the one who planted the fake mark on the cartridge
    to try to support his story.

    And if they planted the mark on the cartridge, how do you know they didn't plant the weapon ?

    Who would have handed McDonald a weapon to plant on Oswald ?
    That's easy. Capt. W.R Westbrook.
    McDonald and Capt. Westbrook knew each other. In fact, Westbrook was previously McDonald’s commanding officer in another division. ( 7 H 112 )
    So they were well acquainted with each other. And Westbrook was CIA.

    McDonald's whole version of events is debunked by the evidence and testimony.
    Anyone who believes him believes in unicorns and sugar-plum-fairies.

    Let's not forget that in addition to Huckster being a proven liar,
    he's also a proven coward:

    You've claimed that the "A.B.C.D." in the Autopsy Report is the
    description of the *location* of the large head wound.

    Yet you refuse time and time again from QUOTING the preceding
    paragraph that describes what this ACTUALLY is. Why is that?

    You've also claimed that the prosectors dissected the throat wound.

    Why do you continue to refuse to cite any evidence for this?

    Why have you CONSISTENTLY run away each time I raise this issue?

    Now you've quite stupidly insisted that the bullet entered JFK's back,
    and exited the back of his head.

    More cowardice, more stupidity, more dishonesty.

    Are you proud of yourself?

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to gjjmail1202@gmail.com on Thu Jan 25 09:58:00 2024
    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 09:27:23 -0800 (PST), Gil Jesus
    <gjjmail1202@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 11:41:18?AM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote:

    Brewer’s testimony: “McDonald was back up. He just knocked him down for a second and he was back up. And I jumped off the stage and was walking toward that, and I saw this gun come up and----in Oswald's hand, a gun up in the air.”

    Brewer never said he saw Oswald pull the gun from his waistband or anywhere else. He testified that saw the gun in Oswald's hand.
    YOU said he saw Oswald pull the gun and that's a lie. His testimony proves it.

    He testified that he never saw where the gun came from. >https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/brewer-never-saw-where-gun-came-from.gif

    I don't know how much clearer that can be for you.

    Huckster's an inveterate liar. He's been caught red-handed, and can't
    admit that he's posting his conclusions as facts.

    This is quite revealing however... when believers are forced to
    CONSTANTLY lie about the evidence, and CONSTANTLY employ logical
    fallicies, it tells the thoughtful reader where the truth lies.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to hsienzant@aol.com on Thu Jan 25 09:56:03 2024
    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 08:41:17 -0800 (PST), Hank Sienzant
    <hsienzant@aol.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 11:10:00?AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 07:50:57 -0800 (PST), Hank Sienzant
    <hsie...@aol.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 7:45:54?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 8:56:03?PM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote: >>>>>
    We'll await your reconstruction of the event and how Brewer saw a gun in Oswald's hand that Oswald didn't pull from his waist.

    Go ahead...
    You're the "more knowledgeable" one and I have to keep explaining things to you ?

    George Applin told reporter Earl Golz that he thought the gun came from the officer's holster.

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/golz-applin.png
    1. What is the testimony or hearsay or ANYTHING that led you to claim
    that Brewer saw Oswald pull a revolver?

    Brewer’s testimony: “McDonald was back up. He just knocked him down for a second and he was back up. And I jumped off the stage and was walking toward that, and I saw this gun come up and----in Oswald's hand, a gun up in the air.”


    Sorry moron - this does *NOT* say what you claimed.

    Lied, didn't you?


    2. What is the testimony or hearsay or ANYTHING that led you to claim
    that Brewer saw Oswald pull a revolver?

    Same answer.


    Lied, didn't you?


    3. What is the testimony or hearsay or ANYTHING that led you to claim
    that Brewer saw Oswald pull a revolver?

    Ditto.


    Still lied, didn't you?


    4. What is the testimony or hearsay or ANYTHING that led you to claim
    that Brewer saw Oswald pull a revolver?

    Likewise.


    Likewise a liar, aren't you?


    5. What is the testimony or hearsay or ANYTHING that led you to claim
    that Brewer saw Oswald pull a revolver?

    As above.


    Nothing has changed, you're still a liar.


    6. What is the testimony or hearsay or ANYTHING that led you to claim
    that Brewer saw Oswald pull a revolver?

    What Brewer testified to.


    And you're not embarrassed to blatantly lie again, are you?


    7. What is the testimony or hearsay or ANYTHING that led you to claim
    that Brewer saw Oswald pull a revolver?

    Duh.


    Still waiting for a credible answer...


    8. What is the testimony or hearsay or ANYTHING that led you to claim
    that Brewer saw Oswald pull a revolver?

    Too evident to everyone but a WC critic.


    Your SPECULATION cannot be posted as evidence.

    Your CONCLUSIONS aren't evidence.

    Your lying simply shows that you know it's not possible to support
    your faith without these lies, logical fallacies, and cowardice.


    Your lie makes no sense on so many levels.

    What lie?


    Pretending to be a moron won't save you, Huckster.


    Brewer testified to Oswald seeing the weapon in Oswald’s hand.


    That would be an historically correct, and suppoortable statement.

    But that's **NOT** what you claimed, is it?

    The fact that you feel the need to pretend otherwise simply
    illustrates that you're an inveterate liar.


    If he didn’t pull it after punching McDonald, where did it come from?
    '

    Gil already offered another possibility that was supported by what an eyewitness thought at the time.

    Pretend that you didn't understand that.


    McDonald...


    Nothing McDonald said is applicable to Brewer, unless you're offering
    hearsay evidence of what McDonald claimed that Brewer said.

    You've been unable to quote Brewer saying what you claimed he said.

    Lied, didn't you?

    And, just to highlight your cowardice again:

    You've claimed that the "A.B.C.D." in the Autopsy Report is the
    description of the *location* of the large head wound.

    Yet you refuse time and time again from QUOTING the preceding
    paragraph that describes what this ACTUALLY is. Why is that?

    You've also claimed that the prosectors dissected the throat wound.

    Why do you continue to refuse to cite any evidence for this?

    Why have you CONSISTENTLY run away each time I raise this issue?

    Now you've quite stupidly insisted that the bullet entered JFK's back,
    and exited the back of his head.

    More cowardice, more stupidity, more dishonesty.

    Are you proud of yourself?

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to hsienzant@aol.com on Thu Jan 25 10:51:59 2024
    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 10:24:52 -0800 (PST), Hank Sienzant
    <hsienzant@aol.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 12:27:27?PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 11:41:18?AM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote:

    Brewer’s testimony: “McDonald was back up. He just knocked him down for a second and he was back up. And I jumped off the stage and was walking toward that, and I saw this gun come up and----in Oswald's hand, a gun up in the air.”
    Brewer never said he saw Oswald pull the gun from his waistband or anywhere else. He testified that saw the gun in Oswald's hand.
    YOU said he saw Oswald pull the gun and that's a lie. His testimony proves it.

    He testified that he never saw where the gun came from.
    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/brewer-never-saw-where-gun-came-from.gif

    I don't know how much clearer that can be for you.

    Define “pull the gun”.


    No, **YOU** need to show Brewer saying that.

    But you can't. You lied.

    Just as you're lying about this:

    You've claimed that the "A.B.C.D." in the Autopsy Report is the
    description of the *location* of the large head wound.

    Yet you refuse time and time again from QUOTING the preceding
    paragraph that describes what this ACTUALLY is. Why is that?

    You've also claimed that the prosectors dissected the throat wound.

    Why do you continue to refuse to cite any evidence for this?

    Why have you CONSISTENTLY run away each time I raise this issue?

    Now you've quite stupidly insisted that the bullet entered JFK's back,
    and exited the back of his head.

    More cowardice, more stupidity, more dishonesty.

    Are you proud of yourself?

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to gjjmail1202@gmail.com on Mon Jan 29 07:34:28 2024
    On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 02:19:12 -0800 (PST), Gil Jesus
    <gjjmail1202@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 1:24:53?PM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote:
    Define “pull the gun”.

    No, YOU define it, YOU said it.

    On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 6:34:18?PM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote:
    "And don't forget, BREWER SAW OSWALD punch Officer McDonald and PULL A REVOLVER ON THAT OFFICER."'

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/vi8nx6srKsQ/m/DD7_PGQsAQAJ

    That's a lie. Brewer never testified that he saw Oswald pull a weapon.
    In fact, he testified that he never saw WHERE the gun came from. >https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/brewer-never-saw-where-gun-came-from.gif

    I don't know why I have to keep repeating it.

    I apply reasoning to the testimony. You apply game-playing to find reasons to get Oswald off.

    I post links to official documents and testimony, i.e., evidence.
    When I don't post the link, I cite the volume and page.

    I don't "play games."

    You're the one "game-playing" by posting your "reasoning" and interpretations. >I hate to be the one to tell you this, but your "reasoning" and interpretations are not evidence.
    That's why you're always wrong.

    And like all Lone Nutters, when your reasoning, speculations and interpretations come up against official document and testimony, YOU LOSE.
    Not only do you lose, but you look foolish in the process, leaving yourselves open to being called liars.

    The evidence is clear, while Brewer testified he saw the gun in Oswald's hand after he hit McDonald, he never saw Oswald "pull a revolver on that officer".
    At the very least, you're mistaken. At the very most you're a liar.


    No, it's crystal clear that Huckster's a liar.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 29 07:34:28 2024
    On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 03:25:28 -0800 (PST), Bud <sirslick@fast.net>
    wrote:

    So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
    "virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?

    Chickenshit is TERRIFIED of this simple honest question. He knows
    that Bugliosi was a moron if he truly thought this... yet you can't
    get Chickenshit to publicly acknowledge that Bugliosi said this.

    It's a simple "Yes" or "No" question, and Chickenshit cannot cite
    where he has EVER answered it. (Without immediately denying it.)

    So it's going to keep getting asked until Chickenshit answers it.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to hsienzant@aol.com on Mon Jan 29 07:34:28 2024
    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 13:23:10 -0800 (PST), Hank Sienzant
    <hsienzant@aol.com> wrote:

    On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 5:19:14?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 1:24:53?PM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote:
    Define “pull the gun”.
    No, YOU define it, YOU said it.

    On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 6:34:18?PM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote:
    "And don't forget, BREWER SAW OSWALD punch Officer McDonald and PULL A REVOLVER ON THAT OFFICER."'

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/vi8nx6srKsQ/m/DD7_PGQsAQAJ >>
    That's a lie. Brewer never testified that he saw Oswald pull a weapon.

    Define what you mean by “pull a weapon”. Then we can discuss further.

    No, that will never happen.

    You've claimed that the "A.B.C.D." in the Autopsy Report is the
    description of the *location* of the large head wound.

    Yet you refuse time and time again from QUOTING the preceding
    paragraph that describes what this ACTUALLY is. Why is that?

    You've also claimed that the prosectors dissected the throat wound.

    Why do you continue to refuse to cite any evidence for this?

    Why have you CONSISTENTLY run away each time I raise this issue?

    Now you've quite stupidly insisted that the bullet entered JFK's back,
    and exited the back of his head.

    More cowardice, more stupidity, more dishonesty.

    Are you proud of yourself?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to hsienzant@aol.com on Fri Feb 2 07:28:47 2024
    On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 03:41:55 -0800 (PST), Hank Sienzant
    <hsienzant@aol.com> wrote:

    On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 10:34:36?AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 13:23:10 -0800 (PST), Hank Sienzant
    <hsie...@aol.com> wrote:

    On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 5:19:14?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 1:24:53?PM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote: >>>>> Define “pull the gun”.
    No, YOU define it, YOU said it.

    On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 6:34:18?PM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote:
    "And don't forget, BREWER SAW OSWALD punch Officer McDonald and PULL A REVOLVER ON THAT OFFICER."'

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/vi8nx6srKsQ/m/DD7_PGQsAQAJ

    That's a lie. Brewer never testified that he saw Oswald pull a weapon.

    Define what you mean by “pull a weapon”. Then we can discuss further.

    No, that will never happen.

    Because you don’t want to move the conversation forward?

    No jackass!! Because **YOU** provably run away.

    EVERY

    SINGLE

    TIME!



    Here's what you deleted, proving that **YOU** refuse to "discuss
    further...":

    You've claimed that the "A.B.C.D." in the Autopsy Report is the
    description of the *location* of the large head wound.

    Yet you refuse time and time again from QUOTING the preceding
    paragraph that describes what this ACTUALLY is. Why is that?

    You've also claimed that the prosectors dissected the throat wound.

    Why do you continue to refuse to cite any evidence for this?

    Why have you CONSISTENTLY run away each time I raise this issue?

    Now you've quite stupidly insisted that the bullet entered JFK's back,
    and exited the back of his head.

    More cowardice, more stupidity, more dishonesty.

    Are you proud of yourself?

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to hsienzant@aol.com on Fri Feb 2 09:28:58 2024
    On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 09:14:23 -0800 (PST), Hank Sienzant
    <hsienzant@aol.com> wrote:

    On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 10:28:53?AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 03:41:55 -0800 (PST), Hank Sienzant
    <hsie...@aol.com> wrote:
    On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 10:34:36?AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 13:23:10 -0800 (PST), Hank Sienzant
    <hsie...@aol.com> wrote:

    On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 5:19:14?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 1:24:53?PM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote: >>>>>>> Define “pull the gun”.
    No, YOU define it, YOU said it.

    On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 6:34:18?PM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote: >>>>>> "And don't forget, BREWER SAW OSWALD punch Officer McDonald and PULL A REVOLVER ON THAT OFFICER."'

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/vi8nx6srKsQ/m/DD7_PGQsAQAJ

    That's a lie. Brewer never testified that he saw Oswald pull a weapon. >>>>>
    Define what you mean by “pull a weapon”. Then we can discuss further.

    No, that will never happen.

    Because you don’t want to move the conversation forward?

    No jackass!! Because **YOU** provably run away.

    Right now, you’re the one provably running...

    You've claimed that the "A.B.C.D." in the Autopsy Report is the
    description of the *location* of the large head wound.

    Yet you refuse time and time again from QUOTING the preceding
    paragraph that describes what this ACTUALLY is. Why is that?

    You've also claimed that the prosectors dissected the throat wound.

    Why do you continue to refuse to cite any evidence for this?

    Why have you CONSISTENTLY run away each time I raise this issue?

    Now you've quite stupidly insisted that the bullet entered JFK's back,
    and exited the back of his head.

    More cowardice, more stupidity, more dishonesty.

    Are you proud of yourself?

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to hsienzant@aol.com on Wed Feb 7 06:08:24 2024
    On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 20:52:41 -0800 (PST), Hank Sienzant
    <hsienzant@aol.com> wrote:

    On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 10:28:53?AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 03:41:55 -0800 (PST), Hank Sienzant
    <hsie...@aol.com> wrote:
    On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 10:34:36?AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 13:23:10 -0800 (PST), Hank Sienzant
    <hsie...@aol.com> wrote:

    On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 5:19:14?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 1:24:53?PM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote: >>>>>>> Define “pull the gun”.
    No, YOU define it, YOU said it.

    On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 6:34:18?PM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote: >>>>>> "And don't forget, BREWER SAW OSWALD punch Officer McDonald and PULL A REVOLVER ON THAT OFFICER."'

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/vi8nx6srKsQ/m/DD7_PGQsAQAJ

    That's a lie. Brewer never testified that he saw Oswald pull a weapon. >>>>>
    Define what you mean by “pull a weapon”. Then we can discuss further.

    No, that will never happen.

    Because you don’t want to move the conversation forward?

    No jackass!! Because **YOU** provably run away.

    Right now, you’re the one provably running...

    You've claimed that the "A.B.C.D." in the Autopsy Report is the
    description of the *location* of the large head wound.

    Yet you refuse time and time again from QUOTING the preceding
    paragraph that describes what this ACTUALLY is. Why is that?

    You've also claimed that the prosectors dissected the throat wound.

    Why do you continue to refuse to cite any evidence for this?

    Why have you CONSISTENTLY run away each time I raise this issue?

    Now you've quite stupidly insisted that the bullet entered JFK's back,
    and exited the back of his head.

    More cowardice, more stupidity, more dishonesty.

    Are you proud of yourself?

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