• The Truth That WCR Believers Run From... #13

    From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 17 08:05:30 2024
    First - a quick review is in order. I've demonstrated that I will do
    precisely what I say I will: to wit, I will match in length, detail,
    and number of citations any scenario posted by a believer. I've done
    so repeatedly, and invariably, believers then run away. I then
    demonstrated that the Warren Commission refused to investigate prior assassination attempts that would have shed light on the conspiracy to
    murder the President. I then showed that the Warren Commission had
    their "conclusions" in written form before they interviewed a single
    witness... and that the Commission clearly indicated a desire **NOT**
    to hold a real investigation. I then demonstrated that the evidence
    from just moments after the shooting strongly supported a shooter at
    the Grassy Knoll. I went on to show that the original medical opinion
    within hours was for a frontal shot striking JFK. I then demonstrated
    that believers deny what the Commission stated about when Connally is
    seen reacting to a shot in the film, yet refuse to *explain* that
    reaction. I demonstrated that the Warren Commission provably lied
    about which shot struck Connally. I then demonstrated that there's
    *no* evidence for transit - which is necessary to an SBT. I then
    demonstrated that the Edgewood Arsenal tests contradicted the Warren Commission's theory, and they simply ignored those facts. I then
    covered evidence tending to show that the Autopsy Report isn't the
    original one. I then demonstrated that CE-399 doesn't have any valid
    chain of custody.

    Next - we have the description of the assassins.

    There were a number of assassins in this case, but I'm going to
    concentrate on only one. I'll examine the evidence describing this
    assassin, and ask believers to explain the facts.

    We'll call this the "Case Of The White Shirt That Wasn't"

    The Assassin On The Sixth Floor:

    1 - Rowland Observation at about 12:15: "I observed the two
    rectangular windows at the extreme west end of the TSBD on the next to
    the top floor were open. I saw what I believed to be a man standing
    about 12-15 feet back from the window on the right. He appeared to be
    slender in proportion to his height, was wearing a white or light
    colored shirt... either collarless or open at the neck. He appeared to
    have dark hair. He also appeared to be holding a rifle with scope
    attached, in a ready position or in military terminology, port arms."

    Note the clothing description - "white or light colored shirt." as
    well as open at the neck.

    2 - Carolyn E. Walther was standing on the west side of Houston Street
    about 50 feet south of Elm. Just before the motorcade arrived she
    looked up at the TSBD and saw two men in an upper floor window, one of
    whom was holding a rifle with the barrel pointed downward. She
    described the rifle as being considerably shorter and fatter than the
    rifle found by Dallas Police. She said the man carrying the gun was
    blond or light haired and was wearing a white shirt. The other man was
    wearing a brown suit coat.

    Again, "white shirt"

    3 - Ruby Henderson was standing across the street from the TSBD and
    also saw two men on an upper floor of the building. She said one of
    the men was wearing a white shirt and the other man was wearing a dark
    shirt. Ruby said, "One of them had dark hair.....a darker complexion
    than the other.....You could see their head and shoulders, but not
    like they were leaning out."

    Again, "white shirt"

    4 - Ronald B. Fischer was standing (with Robert Edwards) on the
    southwest corner of Elm and Houston directly across the street from
    the TSBD. Fischer saw the head and shoulders of a white man in his
    late 20's, with light hair, wearing an open-neck light colored shirt,
    staring in the direction of the triple underpass.

    Again, "white shirt" - and open at the neck.

    5 - Robert Edwin Edwards was standing next to Ronald Fischer at the
    corner of Elm and Houston facing the TSBD two or three minutes before
    the motorcade arrived. He saw a white man on the 6th floor wearing a light-colored sports shirt, open at the neck, and said the man had
    short, light, sandy hair.

    Again, "light-colored sports shirt" - and open at the neck.

    6 - Howard L. Brennan, a construction worker, saw a man sitting
    sideways on the windowsill prior to the arrival of the motorcade.
    Brennan said he could practically see his whole body, from the hips
    up. He said the individual was a white man in his early 30's, was fair complexioned, slender, possibly 5-foot-10, 160 to 170 pounds, and wore light-colored clothing.

    Again, consistent with a "white shirt"

    7 - Richard Randolph Carr observed a man looking out the top floor of
    the TSBD moments before the shooting. Carr, like Carolyn Walther, said
    the man was wearing a brown coat. He described the man as having an
    athletic build and wearing horn rim glasses and a hat. Minutes after
    the assassination Carr saw the same man walking north on Houston
    toward him.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to Admin@ConspiracyJFKForum.com on Tue Jan 23 08:14:45 2024
    On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 08:05:30 -0800, Ben Holmes
    <Admin@ConspiracyJFKForum.com> wrote:


    First - a quick review is in order. I've demonstrated that I will do >precisely what I say I will: to wit, I will match in length, detail,
    and number of citations any scenario posted by a believer. I've done
    so repeatedly, and invariably, believers then run away. I then
    demonstrated that the Warren Commission refused to investigate prior >assassination attempts that would have shed light on the conspiracy to
    murder the President. I then showed that the Warren Commission had
    their "conclusions" in written form before they interviewed a single >witness... and that the Commission clearly indicated a desire **NOT**
    to hold a real investigation. I then demonstrated that the evidence
    from just moments after the shooting strongly supported a shooter at
    the Grassy Knoll. I went on to show that the original medical opinion
    within hours was for a frontal shot striking JFK. I then demonstrated
    that believers deny what the Commission stated about when Connally is
    seen reacting to a shot in the film, yet refuse to *explain* that
    reaction. I demonstrated that the Warren Commission provably lied
    about which shot struck Connally. I then demonstrated that there's
    *no* evidence for transit - which is necessary to an SBT. I then
    demonstrated that the Edgewood Arsenal tests contradicted the Warren >Commission's theory, and they simply ignored those facts. I then
    covered evidence tending to show that the Autopsy Report isn't the
    original one. I then demonstrated that CE-399 doesn't have any valid
    chain of custody.

    Next - we have the description of the assassins.

    There were a number of assassins in this case, but I'm going to
    concentrate on only one. I'll examine the evidence describing this
    assassin, and ask believers to explain the facts.

    We'll call this the "Case Of The White Shirt That Wasn't"

    The Assassin On The Sixth Floor:

    1 - Rowland Observation at about 12:15: "I observed the two
    rectangular windows at the extreme west end of the TSBD on the next to
    the top floor were open. I saw what I believed to be a man standing
    about 12-15 feet back from the window on the right. He appeared to be
    slender in proportion to his height, was wearing a white or light
    colored shirt... either collarless or open at the neck. He appeared to
    have dark hair. He also appeared to be holding a rifle with scope
    attached, in a ready position or in military terminology, port arms."

    Note the clothing description - "white or light colored shirt." as
    well as open at the neck.

    2 - Carolyn E. Walther was standing on the west side of Houston Street
    about 50 feet south of Elm. Just before the motorcade arrived she
    looked up at the TSBD and saw two men in an upper floor window, one of
    whom was holding a rifle with the barrel pointed downward. She
    described the rifle as being considerably shorter and fatter than the
    rifle found by Dallas Police. She said the man carrying the gun was
    blond or light haired and was wearing a white shirt. The other man was >wearing a brown suit coat.

    Again, "white shirt"

    3 - Ruby Henderson was standing across the street from the TSBD and
    also saw two men on an upper floor of the building. She said one of
    the men was wearing a white shirt and the other man was wearing a dark
    shirt. Ruby said, "One of them had dark hair.....a darker complexion
    than the other.....You could see their head and shoulders, but not
    like they were leaning out."

    Again, "white shirt"

    4 - Ronald B. Fischer was standing (with Robert Edwards) on the
    southwest corner of Elm and Houston directly across the street from
    the TSBD. Fischer saw the head and shoulders of a white man in his
    late 20's, with light hair, wearing an open-neck light colored shirt,
    staring in the direction of the triple underpass.

    Again, "white shirt" - and open at the neck.

    5 - Robert Edwin Edwards was standing next to Ronald Fischer at the
    corner of Elm and Houston facing the TSBD two or three minutes before
    the motorcade arrived. He saw a white man on the 6th floor wearing a >light-colored sports shirt, open at the neck, and said the man had
    short, light, sandy hair.

    Again, "light-colored sports shirt" - and open at the neck.

    6 - Howard L. Brennan, a construction worker, saw a man sitting
    sideways on the windowsill prior to the arrival of the motorcade.
    Brennan said he could practically see his whole body, from the hips
    up. He said the individual was a white man in his early 30's, was fair >complexioned, slender, possibly 5-foot-10, 160 to 170 pounds, and wore >light-colored clothing.

    Again, consistent with a "white shirt"

    7 - Richard Randolph Carr observed a man looking out the top floor of
    the TSBD moments before the shooting. Carr, like Carolyn Walther, said
    the man was wearing a brown coat. He described the man as having an
    athletic build and wearing horn rim glasses and a hat. Minutes after
    the assassination Carr saw the same man walking north on Houston
    toward him.


    Huckster was TERRIFIED of this post... He was last seen running away
    with a bright yellow streak on his back.

    To say nothing of the post he's been running from since I first posted
    it:

    You've claimed that the "A.B.C.D." in the Autopsy Report is the
    description of the *location* of the large head wound.

    Yet you refuse time and time again from QUOTING the preceding
    paragraph that describes what this ACTUALLY is. Why is that?

    You've also claimed that the prosectors dissected the throat wound.

    Why do you continue to refuse to cite any evidence for this?

    Why have you CONSISTENTLY run away each time I raise this issue?

    Now you've quite stupidly insisted that the bullet entered JFK's back,
    and exited the back of his head.

    More cowardice, more stupidity, more dishonesty.

    Are you proud of yourself?

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