• Believers Lie About The Evidence...

    From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 15 09:29:20 2024
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    In article <510d8e59$1@mcadams.posc.mu.edu>, Sandy McCroskey says...

    On 2/2/13 3:39 PM, Ralph Cinque wrote:
    How Oswald learned Russian is a subject that lone-nutters scrupulously
    avoid; they just shrug. And CTs have dropped the ball about this important >> issue.

    You can't exaggerate how difficult it is for an English speaker to learn
    Russian. It's at least 10X harder than Spanish. Maybe 20X harder. Oswald
    was a high school drop-out. By that I mean he finished the last year of
    junior high school, the 9th grade, and did a couple months of high school
    and that's it.

    Oswald did not learn Russian on his own; it was impossible.

    Oswald did not undergo any instruction at a private language school
    because records would exist.

    Oswald must have been taught Russian by the US military.

    Yet, there is no chance that he underwent such training stateside because
    there are people associated with him who have testified that he underwent
    no such training. Plus, it would be part of his military record if he was
    put through such training.

    What about in Japan? Could he secretly and without official documentation
    been put through an intensive Russian program as part of espionage? That
    seems the most likely possibility. However, so far, there have been no
    Marines or other personnel who have come forward to report any such thing
    about Oswald studying Russian, learning Russian, speaking Russian. There
    is simply no observer of any of that who has come forward.

    Here is a link to a page from another forum which discusses the subject
    quite thoroughly. It's worth reading.

    http://jfkhistory.com/forum/index.php?topic=1953.0

    I think we have to seriously consider the possibility that a bait and
    switch was pulled off, that the guy we are calling Lee Harvey Oswald was
    someone else.

    Keep in mind that it has no bearing our work because the Man in the
    Doorway was definitely the Lee Harvey Oswald who was arrested in the Texas >> Theater, held for two days, and then summarily executed by Jack Ruby.
    Still, it would be nice to know who he was. And it all centers on one
    thing: How did Oswald learn to speak Russian?

    Oswald was married to a Russian.
    The very best way to learn any language is to have a Significant Other
    whose primary language it is.
    Cinque strikes (out) again.

    What the kook doesn't explain, and *cannot* explain, is how Oswald
    spoke it so well when he *MET* his wife to be, that she thought he was
    simply from another area of Russia...

    From Marina's testimony concerning when she first met Oswald:

    Mr. McDONALD. At this time you were speaking in Russian together?
    Mrs. PORTER. Yes. He spoke with accent so I assumed he was maybe from
    another state, which is customary in Russia. People from other states
    do speak with accents because they do not speak Russian. They speak
    different languages.
    Mr. McDONALD. So when you say another state, you mean another Russian
    state?
    Mrs. PORTER. Yes, like Estonia, Lithuania, something like that.

    Now, either this kook "Sandy McCroskey" is simply ignorant of the
    evidence in this case (which is amazingly common among Warren
    Commission defenders) - or "Sandy McCroskey" is a liar.

    I put my money on the latter...

    Why do so many LNT'ers lie about the evidence?

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 16 06:46:27 2024
    On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 19:47:04 -0800 (PST), Hank Sienzant
    <hsienzant@aol.com> wrote:

    To honor Huckster's absolute non-sequiturs, I present this:

    You've claimed that the "A.B.C.D." in the Autopsy Report is the
    description of the *location* of the large head wound.

    Yet you refuse time and time again from QUOTING the preceding
    paragraph that describes what this ACTUALLY is. Why is that?

    You've also claimed that the prosectors dissected the throat wound.

    Why do you continue to refuse to cite any evidence for this?

    Why have you CONSISTENTLY run away each time I raise this issue?

    Now you've quite stupidly insisted that the bullet entered JFK's back,
    and exited the back of his head.

    More cowardice, more stupidity, more dishonesty.

    Are you proud of yourself?

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 16 12:51:31 2024
    On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 09:58:55 -0800 (PST), Hank Sienzant
    <hsienzant@aol.com> wrote:

    It's clear that Huckster is simply molesting his own mother now...

    But he runs from this:

    You've claimed that the "A.B.C.D." in the Autopsy Report is the
    description of the *location* of the large head wound.

    Yet you refuse time and time again from QUOTING the preceding
    paragraph that describes what this ACTUALLY is. Why is that?

    You've also claimed that the prosectors dissected the throat wound.

    Why do you continue to refuse to cite any evidence for this?

    Why have you CONSISTENTLY run away each time I raise this issue?

    Now you've quite stupidly insisted that the bullet entered JFK's back,
    and exited the back of his head.

    More cowardice, more stupidity, more dishonesty.

    Are you proud of yourself?

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 17 07:58:09 2024
    On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 15:55:36 -0800 (PST), Bud <sirslick@fast.net>
    wrote:

    So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
    "virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?

    Chickenshit is TERRIFIED of this simple honest question. He knows
    that Bugliosi was a moron if he truly thought this... yet you can't
    get Chickenshit to publicly acknowledge that Bugliosi said this.

    It's a simple "Yes" or "No" question, and Chickenshit cannot cite
    where he has EVER answered it. (Without immediately denying it.)

    So it's going to keep getting asked until Chickenshit answers it.

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