• Oswald, The Elevators, The Clipboard, and LHO's Innocense.

    From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to The FBI on Thu Dec 21 15:32:36 2023
    DAVID G. HEALY SAID:

    Do you have "proof" LHO was at the 6th floor, TSBD window, Nov 22nd
    1963, 12:30 PM? Let's start there hon.

    DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

    Of course. The proof has been on the table since 1963-1964. You just
    refuse to accept the obvious, honey lamb.


    Sadly, Von Penis never provided this "proof." All he had was
    speculation.


    WILLIAM KELLY SAID:

    Okay David,
    Convince me Oswald was on the Sixth Floor at 12:30 PM 11/22/63.

    DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

    If you can't figure out that easy one, Bill, then I feel sorry for
    you.


    Don't worry Von Penis... we laugh at you!!


    1.) Oswald's prints are on rifle #C2766.


    Doubtful indeed. The FBI said not.


    2.) Rifle C2766 killed JFK.


    Quite likely true.


    3.) Oswald was in the building at the time when HIS OWN RIFLE (C2766)
    was being used by someone to kill JFK from the sixth floor of the Book >Depository.


    As were many others, including some who didn't work there.


    4.) Oswald's prints were on an EMPTY PAPER BAG found in the same area
    where someone was using Rifle C2766 to kill JFK.


    Even *if* you could prove this to be the case - it means nothing at
    all.


    5.) Oswald's fresh prints were on two boxes that were located DEEP
    WITHIN THE SNIPER'S NEST on the sixth floor.


    My prints are all over this building where I work. (and many other buildings...) I just have to hope that you aren't with the police as
    they try to solve a local murder case.


    6.) An eyewitness made a (post-11/22) positive identification of Lee
    Harvey Oswald as the assassin in the sixth-floor corner window of the >Depository.


    However, and you know this to be true, he DENIED such identification
    earlier.


    And there is lots of additional circumstantial evidence that indicates
    the fact that Lee Oswald killed John Kennedy, including not only the
    Tippit murder (which was, of course, committed by the same man whom
    you aren't convinced killed JFK).


    Speculation again...


    A piece of circumstantial evidence that is rarely discussed when it
    comes to talking about things Oswald did that would certainly lead to
    the idea of his guilt and not innocence is the following evidence
    (which was corroborated by multiple TSBD employees--and not just
    Charles Givens):

    Lee Oswald was attempting to get an elevator sent back up to him on
    the SIXTH FLOOR of the Book Depository within only about a half-hour
    of the President being murdered from that very same SIXTH FLOOR of
    that building.


    OMG!!! Someone DARED to use an elevator in a multi-floor building!

    Say it ain't so!!!

    (This simply goes to show how desperate believers are to find
    evidence, ANY evidence, that supports their faith.)


    Now, that piece of evidence (if we can call it "evidence")


    No, you can't.


    doesn't prove Oswald to be guilty of shooting the President, no.


    Mixing a little truth with your speculations and lies?


    But it does, in my opinion...


    Which I've deleted - no-one is interested in your opinion. Only
    evidence, facts, and argument SUPPORTED by the evidence & facts.


    Was he really so anxious to fill those book orders that he had on his >clipboard?


    More speculation. Nor would such speculation be admitted in court.


    And those were book orders, btw, that HE NEVER DID FILL, which is
    another important point in this dicussion, IMO. For, if he merely was >delaying going to lunch with the other boys at 11:50 and 11:55 AM in
    order to DO MORE WORK, then the question should be asked: Why didn't
    he do that work?


    List the orders he *DID* fill. You won't, of course...

    Because you know full well that testimony shows that he *WAS* working diligently that day, filling orders.


    There were multiple unfilled orders attached to his clipboard when
    that clipboard was discovered in early December 1963 (and it was found
    in a location, btw, that was right next to where the C2766 rifle was
    stashed after the shooting).


    That... all by itself... refutes your speculation.


    Now, Bill, just exactly how much MORE stuff would you require in order
    for you to be willing to hang a "Guilty" tag around the neck of Lee H. >Oswald?


    How about some evidence, in place of all this speculation?

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