• Re: Bud's LHO Waterloo... enjoy (6 parts)

    From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to jecorbett4@gmail.com on Tue Dec 5 08:15:43 2023
    On Mon, 4 Dec 2023 21:12:33 -0800 (PST), JE Corbett
    <jecorbett4@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 8:53:55?PM UTC-5, David wrote:
    Wednesday, 20 September 2023 15:09
    Part 1 of 6: No Motive, plus the Silenced Witnesses
    Written by Johnny Cairns



    https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/part-1-of-6-no-motive-plus-the-silenced-witnesses

    This assclown is regurgitating lots of the long ago debunked arguments against Oswald's guilt. Let's examine them one
    by one.


    When you start with ad hominem we know it won't go well for you -
    Huckster Sienzant.


    1. Oswald's motive.
    It is completely unnecessary to prove what Oswald's motive was. That's something only Oswald knew and he never told us
    what it was. He had a motive. We will never know what it was, although it is fun to guess. The evidence proves Oswald was
    the assassin. No need to prove why.


    You're assuming what you need to prove.


    2. Houston vs. Elm
    I've never understood why anyone would second guess Oswald's successful choice. Usually the Monday morning quarterbacks
    second guess the losing coach, not the winning one. That said, choosing to fire the shots on Houston present a different
    set of problems. For starters, if you look at the picture of the crosshairs trained on the guy in the back seat, that would have
    been Connally's seat.

    Nope. You're lying again.


    JFK was behind Connally, so there would not have been a clear shot.

    Are you really stupid enough to think that?

    Chuckles is going to ask you what did your experiments show.

    Are you going to answer?


    If he took the shot while the limo
    was approaching the TSBD, he would have been facing the entire Secret Service protection detail. There was a much better
    chance of him being seen and subject to return fire. They might have also spotted him before he got off the first shot and
    moved to get JFK out of harm's way. By waiting until both limos had passed the sniper's nest, he could bushwack JFK with
    little chance of return fire. The tree only blocked the view from the sniper's nest for a few seconds. Oswald probably got
    his first shot off before the limo went under the tree and after it passed the tree, there were no obstructions at all. The
    silliest part of this argument is that whoever the shooter was, he would have faced the same choice between Houston or
    Elm and that shooter chose Elm. There is ample evidence that shooter was Oswald.


    Your entire argument here is sheer speculation.


    3. Four is the magic number
    He asks why Oswald would try the assassination with only four bullets. I wonder if he ever stopped to consider that was all
    that Oswald had left.


    You'll not cite for that lie... you can't.


    No Carcano ammo was found at his rooming house or the Paine residence.

    Nor was any Carcano ammo found at the following residences:

    Ike Altgens
    Gordon Arnold
    Hugh Aynesworth
    Lee Bowers
    Charles Brehm
    Howard Brennan
    Earle Cabell
    John Connally
    Nellie Connally
    Mal Couch
    Jesse Curry
    Clint Grant
    William Greer
    Jerry Haynes
    Clint Hill
    Jean Hill
    Robert H. Jackson
    Lem Johns
    Roy Kellerman
    Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis
    Robert MacNeil
    Mary Moorman
    Marie Muchmore
    Orville Nix
    Kenneth O'Donnell
    David Powers
    Marilyn Sitzman
    James Tague
    Jack Valenti
    Linda Willis
    Phillip Willis
    Rosemary Willis
    Wes Wise
    Ralph Yarborough
    Rufus Youngblood
    Abraham Zapruder

    While not a complete list of residence where ammo was not found, I'm
    sure everyone is laughing at Corbutt by now...


    Does this idiot think it would
    have made more sense had somebody else attempt the assassination with just four bullets.


    The idiot is clearly you.

    4. The Carcano's assembly tool.
    This is a red herring. We don't know what Oswald used to assemble the rifle nor do we need to know. We know that he did
    assemble the rifle in the TSBD.


    Nope. This is simply speculation. You CANNOT (and will not) cite any
    evidence that supports this claim of yours.


    How do we know that? The rifle had to be disassembled to fit in the bag


    Again, sheer speculation. There's no evidence WHATSOEVER that the
    rifle was ever in that bag.


    and the print found
    on the barrel could only have been placed there with the rifle disassembled.


    You mean the print that wasn't there when the FBI examined the rifle?


    Let's give Oswald some credit. He knew he was
    going to have to reassemble the rifle. He would have either known where he could get a screwdriver at the TSBD or he would
    have brought something along with him. Maybe it was a dime. Who knows? Who cares? If somebody else shot JFK with the
    rifle, do we know what tool that person used?


    The fact that you aren't aware of the difficulties of using a "dime"
    show that you're not really interested in the truth.

    Why haven't *YOU* conducted this experiment? Chuckles will be sooooo disappointed in you.


    5. How did Oswald wipe down the Carcano?
    The question assumes Oswald did wipe down the Carcano. There is no evidence that he did. There wasn't much reason for
    him to do so. He knew he was going to leave his rifle at the TSBD and he had to know it would be found. Unless he was
    really dumb, he would have known it would be traced to him. Why bother wiping the prints off of it?


    Nothing but unsupported speculation.


    6. Lee Oswald, assassin of fall guy
    This guy asks if Oswald was capable of devising and executing the assassination. What was difficult about it. He needed to
    smuggle his rifle into work, find a spot he would have to himself when the motorcade drove by, the stick the rifle out the
    window and shoot a guy a short distance away. What about any of that would be beyond Oswald's capability. I realize
    Oswald was a failure at most things he attempted in his lifetime but if finally succeeded at something, and the CTs want
    to deny him the credit.

    Nothing but unsupported speculation...


    He goes on to try to make the argument that Oswald didn't have a violent nature. Right. That's why he murdered Tippit 45
    minutes after murdering JFK. The he pulled his gun on the cops who tried to arrest him. What a sweetheart of a guy.

    Can you name this logical fallacy?

    Congratulations on doing only 6 out of the 10 on that page... 60% is
    far better than most believers could handle, even though you failed on
    all 6.

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