On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 7:19:54?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11491#relPageId=85
Do you think eyewitnesses are a good source...
On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 12:35:53?PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 9:23:01?AM UTC-5, Steven Galbraith wrote: >> > So he sees a wound on the right side of the head but no wound in the back/rear? Where's the wound in the back of his head? The conspiracy claim is that the back of JFK's head was blown out by a bullet. Where does he see this?
Well, I guess if HE didn't see it, then it didn't exist.
But what about the 40 witnesses who told the HSCA that they DID see a wound at the back of the head ?
https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/40-witnesses.png
What about the autopsy report that describes, "a large irregular defect" that extends, "somewhat into the temporal and occipital regions". ( 16 H 980 )
Where is the "occipital region" of the skull located, Professor ?
Why did you leave out the part about the defect being "chiefly parietal", dunce. Do you even know where the parietal bone is?
And where is the "large irregular defect" in that region depicted in this autopsy photo ?
https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/BE4_HI.jpg
And why is the contour of the back of the head in that photo perfect, not showing any signs of missing bone ?
Professor ?
Giltardo can't figure out ...
On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 4:07:22?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 4:03:08?PM UTC-5, JE Corbett wrote:
< silly comments and insults which were automatically deleted >
Over 40 witnesses told the HSCA that they DID see a wound at the back of the head.
https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/40-witnesses.png
The autopsy report that describes, "a large irregular defect" that extends, "somewhat into the temporal and occipital regions". ( 16 H 980 )
Where is the "occipital region" of the skull located ?
And where is the "large irregular defect" in that occipital region depicted in this autopsy photo ?
https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/BE4_HI.jpg
Name one person who saw the throat wound BEFORE the tracheostomy was done and described it conclusively as an exit wound.
Tells us why the Dallas doctors were not qualified to identify an entrance wound.
Will you answer these questions or will you continue to run from them ?
I gave you the answers...
So he sees a wound on the right side of the head but no wound in the back/rear?
On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 8:36:02?AM UTC-5, JE Corbett wrote:
On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 4:07:22?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 4:03:08?PM UTC-5, JE Corbett wrote:I gave you the answers, Giltardo. It's not my fault you couldn't understand them.
< silly comments and insults which were automatically deleted >
Over 40 witnesses told the HSCA that they DID see a wound at the back of the head.
https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/40-witnesses.png
The autopsy report that describes, "a large irregular defect" that extends, "somewhat into the temporal and occipital regions". ( 16 H 980 )
Where is the "occipital region" of the skull located ?
And where is the "large irregular defect" in that occipital region depicted in this autopsy photo ?
https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/BE4_HI.jpg
Name one person who saw the throat wound BEFORE the tracheostomy was done and described it conclusively as an exit wound.
Tells us why the Dallas doctors were not qualified to identify an entrance wound.
Will you answer these questions or will you continue to run from them ?
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/h8dDOpg537w/m/oG5Dhu_RAAAJ
This is about all I need: https://tinyurl.com/mse5hwb4
Zero evidence here, none, of a large exit wound in the back of the head. As Jacks said, the wound appeared, for him, to be above the ear.
Why? All she had to do was close the flaps that opened up when the exploded. The one thing she couldn't close was the
Harper fragment which detached from the scalp and was blown completely away. I've read lots of arguments about exactly
where the Harper fragment came from but haven't found anything definitive. Most of the opinions I've read is that it came
from the occipital bone. This would make sense because that would create the impression among the ER staff that there
was a gaping hole in the back of the head. The reality is that hole was the rear portion of a much larger defect that extended
along the parietal bone and into the temporal bone. Had the Parkland staff ever closely examined the head wound, they would
have discovered its true extent.
On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 2:30:54?PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:not the real experts.
On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 12:39:53?PM UTC-5, NoTrueFlags Here wrote: >>> Hilarious! The Nutters prefer Herschel Jack's description of the wound to that of the doctors who actually treated JFK. Does a single Nutter have any integrity?
You know, these fucking assholes make me laugh.
They come in here touting the "expertise" of the "forensic pathological experts" at Bethesda over the observations of the doctors at Parkland Hospital.
But when those same "experts" write an autopsy report that says that there was a head wound that extended into the "occipital region", and when those same "experts" tell the HSCA that there was a wound at the rear of the head, all of a sudden they're
The REAL expert on the head wound was the guy who drove LBJ's convertible. >> ROFLMAO.
What a bunch of fucking assholes.
The best description of the head wound came from Zapruder's camera.
On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 6:53:29?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 1:21:56?AM UTC-5, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
Hilarious! Nutters have ZERO integrity. They will say that Jackie just slapped JFK's head together so well that the doctors at Parkland couldn't see a gaping wound in his head. All to defend their Stupid Bullet Theory!The "forensic pathological experts" wrote in their autopsy report that there was a wound that extended into the "occipital region".
They measured the wound at 13 cm. ( a little over 5 inches ) at its widest point.
It's all on page 3 of the autopsy report.
https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/rear-exit-wound.jpg
THE NUTTERS ARE SO FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD, THEY'LL ARGUE AGAINST WHAT THEIR OWN EVIDENCE SAYS.
On the contrary, we look at the entire body of evidence.
We don't cherry pick just the parts that support what we want to
believe...
The autopsy report also describes the examination of skull fragments, the largest of which exhibited, "bevelling on the outer aspect of the bone." ( 16 H 981 )
The bevelling on the surface of bone is indicative of an exiting bullet. If the bevelling was on the inner aspect ( surface ) , it would mean a wound of entry.
But because it was on the outer aspect, ( the outside surface ) the bevelling they saw was from a exiting bullet.
https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/bevelling.jpg
Corroboration for the autopsists' description of a gaping rear wound comes from the Dallas doctors:
Dr. Marion Jenkins told the HSCA that, a portion of the cerebellum was hanging out from A HOLE IN THE RIGHT REAR OF THE HEAD. ( 7 HSCA 287 )
He is describing the hole...
Dr. Charles Carrico described it as a "LARGE GAPING WOUND LOCATED IN THE RIGHT OCCIPITOPARIETAL AREA". ( 6 H 6 )
He is likely...
Dr. Ronald Jones testified that the wound he saw, "appeared to be AN EXIT WOUND IN THE POSTERIOR PORTION OF THE SKULL." ( 6 H 56 )
Secret Service agent Clint Hill, who probably was the non-medical person who got best look at the head wound, described what he saw.
"I noticed a portion of the President's head ON THE RIGHT REAR SIDE WAS MISSING..... I saw A PART OF HIS SKULL with hair on it LYING IN THE SEAT." ( 18 H 742 )
Even the Warren Commission's own Report admitted that the head shot, "removed a portion of the President's head." ( pg. 51 )
Yet the autopsy photos show no indication that any portion of the President's head was ever missing. There is no interuption in the contour of the skull.
https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/BE4_HI.jpg
Herchel Jacks' description of the wound he saw was that of an ENTRY WOUND. >> "It appeared that the bullet had struck him above the right ear or near the temple".
https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/hurchel-jacks.png
How any idiot, claiming to be a college professor who teaches a course on the assassination, could interpret that as saying it was an exit wound is beyond me.
But then again, the Nutters are a special kind of idiot.
Jacks' description of a bullet striking the President "above the right ear or near the temple" is corroborated by other witnesses.
https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/frontal-shot.mp4
Explain why an eyewitness account is a better way of determining the direction of a gunshot than an autopsy...
On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 7:47:51?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 7:37:05?AM UTC-5, JE Corbett wrote:
That skull flap is not an entrance wound. It is the result of the skull being completely shattered by theShow us that skull flap hanging down over the ear in this photo:
impact of the bullet and pressure cavity that built up in the wake of the transiting bullet. This pressure resulted in an
explosive wound along the upper right side of JFK's head.
https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/BE4_HI.jpg
The flap is clearly visible in the photo...
On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 7:07:41?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 6:54:22?AM UTC-5, JE Corbett wrote:
< silly excuses without any evidence to try to explain what happened >
So the Parkland doctors completely missed a bone flap that was hanging over the President's ear.
Can I have the source for that ?
You make it too easy. It's the photo you provided. >https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/BE4_HI.jpg
Can you see that skull flap on the right side of JFK's head?
Did any of the Parkland doctors you have cited make any mention
of seeing that flap? Do you have any explanation for why none of them would have mentioned that?
Where is the occipital bone located ? On the side of the head ?
Let's take a look:
https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Occipital-Bone-Location.jpg
Why do you continue...
As usual, you haven't refuted one thing I've said.
I just did. AGAIN!!!
We say that because that is what happened. That is why the Parkland doctors were unaware of the skull flap that covered
JFK's right ear following the head shot. The one part of the blow out Jackie couldn't cover was the Harper fragment, believed
to be from the occipital bone. That led the ER team to believe the blowout was limited to the back of the head.
On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 8:22:18?AM UTC-5, JE Corbett wrote:
Giltardo, do you still want to argue that the blowout was limited to the occipital bone?
Who said that ? I never said the wound was LIMITED to the occipital bone.
I said that the wound "EXTENDED INTO the occipital region."
Why the fuck do you keep doing this to me ?
Why do you keep attributing things to me that I never said ?
Is there something wrong with you ?
On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 8:02:35?AM UTC-5, JE Corbett wrote:
That flap is clearly seen in both the autopsy photo and the Z-film. There is no doubt that flap was blown open by the headshot.
Your "flap hanging down" is not depicted in the autopsy photos. >https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/montage-head.jpg
Can you think of a reason why none of the ER team made any mention of such an obvious wound on the upper right side of
JFK's head or are you going to continue to ignore that inconvenient truth?
Well, if I'm using Professor Galbraith's form of reasoning, as he did with Herchel Jacks, since no one in the ER mentioned seeing the flap then it wasn't there.
Any problems with that, talk to the professor.
On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 11:35:55?AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
This is really simple - Believers cannot argue with what we ACTUALLY
say - because it's supported by the evidence.
So believers have to argue against what they WISH we had said.
He says, "But the Zapruder film shows a flap."
The Zapruder film also shows the top front of the President's head gone and the rear intact.
https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/head-337.png
Which is not supported by the autopsy photos. >https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/montage-head.jpg
Are we to believe Zapruder or are we to believe the photos and the autopsy report ?
On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 11:42:05?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 8:02:35?AM UTC-5, JE Corbett wrote:
That flap is clearly seen in both the autopsy photo and the Z-film. There is no doubt that flap was blown open by the headshot.Your "flap hanging down" is not depicted in the autopsy photos.
That's because....
https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/montage-head.jpg
Can you think of a reason why none of the ER team made any mention of such an obvious wound on the upper right side ofAny problems with that, talk to the professor.
JFK's head or are you going to continue to ignore that inconvenient truth? >> Well, if I'm using Professor Galbraith's form of reasoning, as he did with Herchel Jacks, since no one in the ER mentioned seeing the flap then it wasn't there.
Is that really the best dodge you could come up with?
On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 11:53:43?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 11:35:55?AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
This is really simple - Believers cannot argue with what we ACTUALLYHe says, "But the Zapruder film shows a flap."
say - because it's supported by the evidence.
So believers have to argue against what they WISH we had said.
The Zapruder film also shows the top front of the President's head gone and the rear intact.
https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/head-337.png
Is that really how you interpret that frame?
Which is not supported by the autopsy photos.
https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/montage-head.jpg
Why would you expect the autopsy photos to support the things you imagine?
Are we to believe Zapruder or are we to believe the photos and the autopsy report ?
We should believe them all.
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