• State Of The Publishing Industry

    From Sam McClung@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 25 09:08:25 2023
    "Big Publishing Killed the Author
    How corporations wrested creative control from writers and editors—to produce less interesting books."
    https://newrepublic.com/article/176458/big-publishing-killed-author-sinykin-fiction-review

    "The Haunting of the Publishing House
    The racism and prejudice of the industry has been the subject of recent novels. In R.F. Kuang’s Yellowface, that plot becomes a horror story."
    https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/the-haunting-of-the-publishing-house/

    "Nevertheless, the publishing industry remains predominantly white. Between 1950 and 2018, 95% of books that were published in the United States were written by white authors."
    https://www.michigandaily.com/opinion/dollar-signs-and-sob-stories/

    "Elegy for the Publishing Industry
    ...
    A federal judge finally noticed that publishing houses had become essentially a turducken, which creates a stranglehold for authors, agents, competition, and readers."
    https://bookandfilmglobe.com/creators/remembrance/elegy-for-the-publishing-industry/

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  • From NoTrueFlags Here@21:1/5 to Donald Willis on Sat Nov 25 11:08:04 2023
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 1:47:01 PM UTC-5, Donald Willis wrote:
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 9:08:27 AM UTC-8, Sam McClung wrote:
    "Big Publishing Killed the Author
    How corporations wrested creative control from writers and editors—to produce less interesting books."
    https://newrepublic.com/article/176458/big-publishing-killed-author-sinykin-fiction-review
    Tell me about it. My publishers, at the time (1972-1996), Scarecrow Press, were absorbed by Rowman & Littlefield and, to all intents & purposes, ceased to exist, at least for me. I had to go elsewhere for my next two books. And, with the help of the
    internet, "small publishing" is dying out...

    "The Haunting of the Publishing House
    The racism and prejudice of the industry has been the subject of recent novels. In R.F. Kuang’s Yellowface, that plot becomes a horror story."
    https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/the-haunting-of-the-publishing-house/

    "Nevertheless, the publishing industry remains predominantly white. Between 1950 and 2018, 95% of books that were published in the United States were written by white authors."
    https://www.michigandaily.com/opinion/dollar-signs-and-sob-stories/

    "Elegy for the Publishing Industry
    ...
    A federal judge finally noticed that publishing houses had become essentially a turducken, which creates a stranglehold for authors, agents, competition, and readers."
    https://bookandfilmglobe.com/creators/remembrance/elegy-for-the-publishing-industry/

    You're a writer! Well that explains it. I find it difficult to understand writers. "More matter with less art," as some writer once said.

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  • From Donald Willis@21:1/5 to Sam McClung on Sat Nov 25 10:46:59 2023
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 9:08:27 AM UTC-8, Sam McClung wrote:
    "Big Publishing Killed the Author
    How corporations wrested creative control from writers and editors—to produce less interesting books."
    https://newrepublic.com/article/176458/big-publishing-killed-author-sinykin-fiction-review

    Tell me about it. My publishers, at the time (1972-1996), Scarecrow Press, were absorbed by Rowman & Littlefield and, to all intents & purposes, ceased to exist, at least for me. I had to go elsewhere for my next two books. And, with the help of the
    internet, "small publishing" is dying out...


    "The Haunting of the Publishing House
    The racism and prejudice of the industry has been the subject of recent novels. In R.F. Kuang’s Yellowface, that plot becomes a horror story."
    https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/the-haunting-of-the-publishing-house/

    "Nevertheless, the publishing industry remains predominantly white. Between 1950 and 2018, 95% of books that were published in the United States were written by white authors."
    https://www.michigandaily.com/opinion/dollar-signs-and-sob-stories/

    "Elegy for the Publishing Industry
    ...
    A federal judge finally noticed that publishing houses had become essentially a turducken, which creates a stranglehold for authors, agents, competition, and readers."
    https://bookandfilmglobe.com/creators/remembrance/elegy-for-the-publishing-industry/

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  • From Sam McClung@21:1/5 to Donald Willis on Sat Nov 25 21:23:02 2023
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 12:47:01 PM UTC-6, Donald Willis wrote:
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 9:08:27 AM UTC-8, Sam McClung wrote:
    "Big Publishing Killed the Author
    How corporations wrested creative control from writers and editors—to produce less interesting books."
    https://newrepublic.com/article/176458/big-publishing-killed-author-sinykin-fiction-review
    Tell me about it. My publishers, at the time (1972-1996), Scarecrow Press, were absorbed by Rowman & Littlefield and, to all intents & purposes, ceased to exist, at least for me. I had to go elsewhere for my next two books. And, with the help of the
    internet, "small publishing" is dying out...

    Seems like more and more some only trust a big publisher. What a disaster...

    Like some only trusting a commission...

    The programming is becoming more pervasive and more effective...


    "The Haunting of the Publishing House
    The racism and prejudice of the industry has been the subject of recent novels. In R.F. Kuang’s Yellowface, that plot becomes a horror story."
    https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/the-haunting-of-the-publishing-house/

    "Nevertheless, the publishing industry remains predominantly white. Between 1950 and 2018, 95% of books that were published in the United States were written by white authors."
    https://www.michigandaily.com/opinion/dollar-signs-and-sob-stories/

    "Elegy for the Publishing Industry
    ...
    A federal judge finally noticed that publishing houses had become essentially a turducken, which creates a stranglehold for authors, agents, competition, and readers."
    https://bookandfilmglobe.com/creators/remembrance/elegy-for-the-publishing-industry/

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  • From Donald Willis@21:1/5 to NoTrueFlags Here on Sun Nov 26 09:06:08 2023
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 11:08:06 AM UTC-8, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 1:47:01 PM UTC-5, Donald Willis wrote:
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 9:08:27 AM UTC-8, Sam McClung wrote:
    "Big Publishing Killed the Author
    How corporations wrested creative control from writers and editors—to produce less interesting books."
    https://newrepublic.com/article/176458/big-publishing-killed-author-sinykin-fiction-review
    Tell me about it. My publishers, at the time (1972-1996), Scarecrow Press, were absorbed by Rowman & Littlefield and, to all intents & purposes, ceased to exist, at least for me. I had to go elsewhere for my next two books. And, with the help of the
    internet, "small publishing" is dying out...

    "The Haunting of the Publishing House
    The racism and prejudice of the industry has been the subject of recent novels. In R.F. Kuang’s Yellowface, that plot becomes a horror story."
    https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/the-haunting-of-the-publishing-house/

    "Nevertheless, the publishing industry remains predominantly white. Between 1950 and 2018, 95% of books that were published in the United States were written by white authors."
    https://www.michigandaily.com/opinion/dollar-signs-and-sob-stories/

    "Elegy for the Publishing Industry
    ...
    A federal judge finally noticed that publishing houses had become essentially a turducken, which creates a stranglehold for authors, agents, competition, and readers."
    https://bookandfilmglobe.com/creators/remembrance/elegy-for-the-publishing-industry/
    You're a writer! Well that explains it. I find it difficult to understand writers. "More matter with less art," as some writer once said.

    A reviewer of my last book compared me with Hemingway, as opposed to Faulkner--in terms of comprehensibility...

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  • From Donald Willis@21:1/5 to Sam McClung on Sun Nov 26 09:07:49 2023
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 9:23:03 PM UTC-8, Sam McClung wrote:
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 12:47:01 PM UTC-6, Donald Willis wrote:
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 9:08:27 AM UTC-8, Sam McClung wrote:
    "Big Publishing Killed the Author
    How corporations wrested creative control from writers and editors—to produce less interesting books."
    https://newrepublic.com/article/176458/big-publishing-killed-author-sinykin-fiction-review
    Tell me about it. My publishers, at the time (1972-1996), Scarecrow Press, were absorbed by Rowman & Littlefield and, to all intents & purposes, ceased to exist, at least for me. I had to go elsewhere for my next two books. And, with the help of the
    internet, "small publishing" is dying out...
    Seems like more and more some only trust a big publisher. What a disaster...

    Like some only trusting a commission...

    As I'm fond of saying, the Warren C was only as good as the input it got, from the DPD & co...


    The programming is becoming more pervasive and more effective...

    "The Haunting of the Publishing House
    The racism and prejudice of the industry has been the subject of recent novels. In R.F. Kuang’s Yellowface, that plot becomes a horror story."
    https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/the-haunting-of-the-publishing-house/

    "Nevertheless, the publishing industry remains predominantly white. Between 1950 and 2018, 95% of books that were published in the United States were written by white authors."
    https://www.michigandaily.com/opinion/dollar-signs-and-sob-stories/

    "Elegy for the Publishing Industry
    ...
    A federal judge finally noticed that publishing houses had become essentially a turducken, which creates a stranglehold for authors, agents, competition, and readers."
    https://bookandfilmglobe.com/creators/remembrance/elegy-for-the-publishing-industry/

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  • From NoTrueFlags Here@21:1/5 to Donald Willis on Sun Nov 26 09:14:55 2023
    On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 12:06:10 PM UTC-5, Donald Willis wrote:
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 11:08:06 AM UTC-8, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 1:47:01 PM UTC-5, Donald Willis wrote:
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 9:08:27 AM UTC-8, Sam McClung wrote:
    "Big Publishing Killed the Author
    How corporations wrested creative control from writers and editors—to produce less interesting books."
    https://newrepublic.com/article/176458/big-publishing-killed-author-sinykin-fiction-review
    Tell me about it. My publishers, at the time (1972-1996), Scarecrow Press, were absorbed by Rowman & Littlefield and, to all intents & purposes, ceased to exist, at least for me. I had to go elsewhere for my next two books. And, with the help of
    the internet, "small publishing" is dying out...

    "The Haunting of the Publishing House
    The racism and prejudice of the industry has been the subject of recent novels. In R.F. Kuang’s Yellowface, that plot becomes a horror story."
    https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/the-haunting-of-the-publishing-house/

    "Nevertheless, the publishing industry remains predominantly white. Between 1950 and 2018, 95% of books that were published in the United States were written by white authors."
    https://www.michigandaily.com/opinion/dollar-signs-and-sob-stories/

    "Elegy for the Publishing Industry
    ...
    A federal judge finally noticed that publishing houses had become essentially a turducken, which creates a stranglehold for authors, agents, competition, and readers."
    https://bookandfilmglobe.com/creators/remembrance/elegy-for-the-publishing-industry/
    You're a writer! Well that explains it. I find it difficult to understand writers. "More matter with less art," as some writer once said.
    A reviewer of my last book compared me with Hemingway, as opposed to Faulkner--in terms of comprehensibility...
    Is that good? Oh, I see. I had to Google. But I won't admit that I've never read a word of Faulkner. Well, that's nice! You've been compared to Hemingway! You must be the Ordinary Man? I haven't read it, but Amazon has heard about it. You've become too
    complex for me.

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  • From Sam McClung@21:1/5 to Donald Willis on Sun Nov 26 09:21:54 2023
    On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 11:07:50 AM UTC-6, Donald Willis wrote:
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 9:23:03 PM UTC-8, Sam McClung wrote:
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 12:47:01 PM UTC-6, Donald Willis wrote:
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 9:08:27 AM UTC-8, Sam McClung wrote:
    "Big Publishing Killed the Author
    How corporations wrested creative control from writers and editors—to produce less interesting books."
    https://newrepublic.com/article/176458/big-publishing-killed-author-sinykin-fiction-review
    Tell me about it. My publishers, at the time (1972-1996), Scarecrow Press, were absorbed by Rowman & Littlefield and, to all intents & purposes, ceased to exist, at least for me. I had to go elsewhere for my next two books. And, with the help of
    the internet, "small publishing" is dying out...
    Seems like more and more some only trust a big publisher. What a disaster...

    Like some only trusting a commission...
    As I'm fond of saying, the Warren C was only as good as the input it got, from the DPD & co...

    Seems the WC's output was as good as input from DPD & co as well as how good the WC was, and both were dishonest.


    The programming is becoming more pervasive and more effective...

    "The Haunting of the Publishing House
    The racism and prejudice of the industry has been the subject of recent novels. In R.F. Kuang’s Yellowface, that plot becomes a horror story."
    https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/the-haunting-of-the-publishing-house/

    "Nevertheless, the publishing industry remains predominantly white. Between 1950 and 2018, 95% of books that were published in the United States were written by white authors."
    https://www.michigandaily.com/opinion/dollar-signs-and-sob-stories/

    "Elegy for the Publishing Industry
    ...
    A federal judge finally noticed that publishing houses had become essentially a turducken, which creates a stranglehold for authors, agents, competition, and readers."
    https://bookandfilmglobe.com/creators/remembrance/elegy-for-the-publishing-industry/

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  • From Donald Willis@21:1/5 to NoTrueFlags Here on Tue Nov 28 09:34:40 2023
    On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 9:14:56 AM UTC-8, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 12:06:10 PM UTC-5, Donald Willis wrote:
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 11:08:06 AM UTC-8, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 1:47:01 PM UTC-5, Donald Willis wrote:
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 9:08:27 AM UTC-8, Sam McClung wrote:
    "Big Publishing Killed the Author
    How corporations wrested creative control from writers and editors—to produce less interesting books."
    https://newrepublic.com/article/176458/big-publishing-killed-author-sinykin-fiction-review
    Tell me about it. My publishers, at the time (1972-1996), Scarecrow Press, were absorbed by Rowman & Littlefield and, to all intents & purposes, ceased to exist, at least for me. I had to go elsewhere for my next two books. And, with the help of
    the internet, "small publishing" is dying out...

    "The Haunting of the Publishing House
    The racism and prejudice of the industry has been the subject of recent novels. In R.F. Kuang’s Yellowface, that plot becomes a horror story."
    https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/the-haunting-of-the-publishing-house/

    "Nevertheless, the publishing industry remains predominantly white. Between 1950 and 2018, 95% of books that were published in the United States were written by white authors."
    https://www.michigandaily.com/opinion/dollar-signs-and-sob-stories/

    "Elegy for the Publishing Industry
    ...
    A federal judge finally noticed that publishing houses had become essentially a turducken, which creates a stranglehold for authors, agents, competition, and readers."
    https://bookandfilmglobe.com/creators/remembrance/elegy-for-the-publishing-industry/
    You're a writer! Well that explains it. I find it difficult to understand writers. "More matter with less art," as some writer once said.
    A reviewer of my last book compared me with Hemingway, as opposed to Faulkner--in terms of comprehensibility...
    Is that good? Oh, I see. I had to Google. But I won't admit that I've never read a word of Faulkner.

    I tried "Sound & the Fury", but had to give up. My sister got through it, though. Does that count?

    Well, that's nice! You've been compared to Hemingway! You must be the Ordinary Man? I haven't read it, but Amazon has heard about it. You've become too complex for me.

    You're saying I'm Faulknerian? In terms of comprehensibility...

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  • From Donald Willis@21:1/5 to Sam McClung on Tue Nov 28 09:37:08 2023
    On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 9:21:56 AM UTC-8, Sam McClung wrote:
    On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 11:07:50 AM UTC-6, Donald Willis wrote:
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 9:23:03 PM UTC-8, Sam McClung wrote:
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 12:47:01 PM UTC-6, Donald Willis wrote:
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 9:08:27 AM UTC-8, Sam McClung wrote:
    "Big Publishing Killed the Author
    How corporations wrested creative control from writers and editors—to produce less interesting books."
    https://newrepublic.com/article/176458/big-publishing-killed-author-sinykin-fiction-review
    Tell me about it. My publishers, at the time (1972-1996), Scarecrow Press, were absorbed by Rowman & Littlefield and, to all intents & purposes, ceased to exist, at least for me. I had to go elsewhere for my next two books. And, with the help of
    the internet, "small publishing" is dying out...
    Seems like more and more some only trust a big publisher. What a disaster...

    Like some only trusting a commission...
    As I'm fond of saying, the Warren C was only as good as the input it got, from the DPD & co...
    Seems the WC's output was as good as input from DPD & co as well as how good the WC was, and both were dishonest.

    The programming is becoming more pervasive and more effective...

    "The Haunting of the Publishing House
    The racism and prejudice of the industry has been the subject of recent novels. In R.F. Kuang’s Yellowface, that plot becomes a horror story."
    https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/the-haunting-of-the-publishing-house/

    "Nevertheless, the publishing industry remains predominantly white. Between 1950 and 2018, 95% of books that were published in the United States were written by white authors."
    https://www.michigandaily.com/opinion/dollar-signs-and-sob-stories/

    "Elegy for the Publishing Industry
    ...
    A federal judge finally noticed that publishing houses had become essentially a turducken, which creates a stranglehold for authors, agents, competition, and readers."
    https://bookandfilmglobe.com/creators/remembrance/elegy-for-the-publishing-industry/

    The WC was certainly guilty of not following up on DPD witnesses. Their excuse: LBJ wouldn't give them enough time...

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  • From Sam McClung@21:1/5 to Donald Willis on Tue Nov 28 11:00:28 2023
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 11:37:10 AM UTC-6, Donald Willis wrote:
    On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 9:21:56 AM UTC-8, Sam McClung wrote:
    On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 11:07:50 AM UTC-6, Donald Willis wrote:
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 9:23:03 PM UTC-8, Sam McClung wrote:
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 12:47:01 PM UTC-6, Donald Willis wrote:
    On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 9:08:27 AM UTC-8, Sam McClung wrote:
    "Big Publishing Killed the Author
    How corporations wrested creative control from writers and editors—to produce less interesting books."
    https://newrepublic.com/article/176458/big-publishing-killed-author-sinykin-fiction-review
    Tell me about it. My publishers, at the time (1972-1996), Scarecrow Press, were absorbed by Rowman & Littlefield and, to all intents & purposes, ceased to exist, at least for me. I had to go elsewhere for my next two books. And, with the help
    of the internet, "small publishing" is dying out...
    Seems like more and more some only trust a big publisher. What a disaster...

    Like some only trusting a commission...
    As I'm fond of saying, the Warren C was only as good as the input it got, from the DPD & co...
    Seems the WC's output was as good as input from DPD & co as well as how good the WC was, and both were dishonest.

    The programming is becoming more pervasive and more effective...

    "The Haunting of the Publishing House
    The racism and prejudice of the industry has been the subject of recent novels. In R.F. Kuang’s Yellowface, that plot becomes a horror story."
    https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/the-haunting-of-the-publishing-house/

    "Nevertheless, the publishing industry remains predominantly white. Between 1950 and 2018, 95% of books that were published in the United States were written by white authors."
    https://www.michigandaily.com/opinion/dollar-signs-and-sob-stories/

    "Elegy for the Publishing Industry
    ...
    A federal judge finally noticed that publishing houses had become essentially a turducken, which creates a stranglehold for authors, agents, competition, and readers."
    https://bookandfilmglobe.com/creators/remembrance/elegy-for-the-publishing-industry/
    The WC was certainly guilty of not following up on DPD witnesses. Their excuse: LBJ wouldn't give them enough time...

    The following looks like another case of the WC altering evidence, in this case by altering the WC version of how many shells were shown on "the copy of the original Texas Department of Public Safety evidence sheet."
    <begin quote>
    Regarding the 3 shells James Tague disagreed. In his book LBJ and the Kennedy Killing pages 276-279 you see why. In 1968 his friend reporter Jimmy Kerr told him there were only 2 shells found on 11/22, a 3rd was added Monday for official photographs.
    Further Fritz picked them up almost immediately and put them in his pocket, putting them back down later for an evidence crew then pocketing them again. WC exhibit 511 shows only 2 shells circled as the same picture does in Jesse Currys book.
    Further, WC Council Belin recalled Lt. Day who recanted his 3 shell statement and admitted he only found 2 (Barry Crush, Impossible, the Case Against LHO, Mr. Krush offers 25K to anyone who can prove this wrong).
    Last,the copy of the original Texas Department of Public Safety evidence sheet in both books lists 2 spent shells.
    For some reason the WC version has been altered to show 3.
    I know I said last, but the 3rd shell now in evidence does not show the chambering markings on the other 2 have and it is dented to the point it could not have been fired in the Manlicher that afternoon.
    <end quote> https://jfkfacts.org/sunshine-on-jfk-why-the-secrecy-around-assassination-related-records/

    Seems the two shells Fritz pocketed above then put 3 shells "back down later for an evidence crew" would have all been Carcano shells, meaning all this was after Roger Craig et alia originall found the 3 Mauser shells.

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