1. Forum
  2. Usenet
  3. ALT.CONSPIRACY.JFK

  • Perhaps Robert McNamara Gave The Kill JFK Order To Richard Helms

    From Sam McClung@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 22 20:59:16 2023
    @13:20+ Ralph Ganis speaking
    <begin quote>
    The capability itself the executive action capability [assassinations] itself I equate in the book to the use of atomic weapons you know it the only way to launch this capability would have been by Executive Order, by the President or you know the uh
    national command authority the Secretary of Defense that level it was the President national command authority level capability.
    <end quote>
    from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU3YRfHJvRo

    Abe Greenbaum aka Tracy Barnes and Chief (Director of Central Intelligence) Richard Helms speaking, per Richard Case Nagell
    <begin quote>
    "Don't know, Chief," he mutters, "Ozzie seems like good man for penetration of target." Chief stands and yawns, grins slyly.. "Well, just the same you'd better contact Tidbit and have him execute alternate... plan." Abe stares at Chief with knowing-look.
    "Right, Chief, I'll get on it...first thing Monday morning."
    <end quote>
    from Nagell's 10-8-1967 letter
    This happened in the wee hours of 11-21-63 so the mention of "I'll get on it first thing Monday morning" seems inconsistent as the "alternate...plan" occurred 11-22-63. Perhaps Nagell wrote it this way to throw off those who may be screening his mail.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Sam McClung@21:1/5 to Sam McClung on Thu Nov 23 19:06:39 2023
    On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 10:59:18 PM UTC-6, Sam McClung wrote:
    @13:20+ Ralph Ganis speaking
    <begin quote>
    The capability itself the executive action capability [assassinations] itself I equate in the book to the use of atomic weapons you know it the only way to launch this capability would have been by Executive Order, by the President or you know the uh
    national command authority the Secretary of Defense that level it was the President national command authority level capability.
    <end quote>
    from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU3YRfHJvRo



    Though he did not go to Yale, Helms ("Chief") by some accounts was in Skull and Bones, which supports my position that Skull and Bones was involved with the JFK assassination at the core level. See:
    https://www.subliminal.org/mugbook/spooks/helms.html
    https://gwern.net/doc/rotten.com/library/conspiracy/skull-and-bones/index.html
    Abe Greenbaum aka Tracy Barnes and Chief (Director of Central Intelligence [as of 1966]) Richard Helms speaking, per Richard Case Nagell
    <begin quote>
    "Don't know, Chief," he mutters, "Ozzie seems like good man for penetration of target." Chief stands and yawns, grins slyly.. "Well, just the same you'd better contact Tidbit and have him execute alternate... plan." Abe stares at Chief with knowing-
    look. "Right, Chief, I'll get on it...first thing Monday morning."
    <end quote>
    from Nagell's 10-8-1967 letter
    This happened in the wee hours of 11-21-63 so the mention of "I'll get on it first thing Monday morning" seems inconsistent as the "alternate...plan" occurred 11-22-63. Perhaps Nagell wrote it this way to throw off those who may be screening his mail.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)