Was Jackie Kennedy trying to escape from the limousine after the head shot
at Z312-313, or was she reaching back to retrieve a piece of her husband's brain?
One important clue is the fact, that after she returned to her seat, she stated that she was holding her husband's brains in her hand. This is what Nellie Connally told the WC,
"..and then there was the second shot, and then after the third shot she said, 'They have killed my husband. I have his brains in my hand,' and she repeated that several times, and that was all the conversation."
Of course, LNers adamantly disagree. Mark Hiatt has claimed that Mrs.
Kennedy really didn't say that until long after the limo left Dealey
Plaza, giving her plenty of time to have retrieved the brain tissue (which she passed to Dr. Jenkins at Parkland) from the floor or elsewhere.
But I think there is definitive evidence, that Jackie actually said this, immediately after returning to her seat. This is from Governor Connally's testimony,
Mr. SPECTER. Did she say anything more?
Governor CONNALLY. Yes; she said, I heard her say one time, "I have got
his brains in my hand."
(unquote)
That was the last thing Governor Connally seems to have heard, before
losing consciousness. But when did he actually pass out? If that happened well after the limo left DP, then perhaps Mark was right. Maybe she did
make that statement much later. Fortunately, we don't have to guess about this. This is more of JBC's testimony:
"..I heard Roy Kellerman tell the driver, 'Bill, get out of line.' And
then I saw him move, and I assumed he was moving a button or something on
the panel of the automobile, and he said, 'Get us to a hospital quick.' I assumed he was saying this to the patrolman, the motorcycle police who
were leading us.
At about that time, we began to pull out of the cavalcade, out of the
line, and I lost consciousness and didn't regain consciousness until we
got to the hospital."
Kellerman grabbed the mike, and the limo did indeed, pull "out of line", passing the lead car, as they approached the Stemmons onramp. Based on his testimony, this is when the Governor passed out. He heard nothing else, before they arrived at Parkland.
But after reaching back across the trunk, Jackie didn't get back in her
seat until about Z420. The limo went under the overpass during the Z460's. The rapidly accelerating limousine must have been on the freeway then,
within a few seconds after that.
Based on that timing, Jackie could only have had a few seconds to utter
the "brains in my hand" statements, in order for the Governor to have
heard her, before he lost consciousness.
The point of all this is very clear. Mrs. Kennedy *IMMEDIATELY* stated "I have his brains in my hand", after returning to her seat and her husband. These theories that she tried to escape from the limousine are
preposterous, and are nothing more than a painfully transparent attempt to salvage the last remnants of credibility for the notion that one shooter committed this crime.
You can get a good, closup look at her in this stabilized, animated GIF, taken from the MPI, DVD Zfilm:
ftp://www.c-works.com/jackie.gif
There was a gunshot after the Z312 head wound that blew brain matter
directly to the rear, including the piece that Jackie retrieved, and the piece of skull that Charles Brehm saw fly backward from the President's
head. That was almost certainly, the piece that Dr. Boswell recalled
arriving late on the evening of the 22nd.
Bob
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On Saturday, September 26, 1998 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Robert Harris wrote:
Was Jackie Kennedy trying to escape from the limousine after the head shot at Z312-313, or was she reaching back to retrieve a piece of her husband's brain?
One important clue is the fact, that after she returned to her seat, she stated that she was holding her husband's brains in her hand. This is what Nellie Connally told the WC,
"..and then there was the second shot, and then after the third shot she said, 'They have killed my husband. I have his brains in my hand,' and she repeated that several times, and that was all the conversation."
Of course, LNers adamantly disagree. Mark Hiatt has claimed that Mrs. Kennedy really didn't say that until long after the limo left Dealey Plaza, giving her plenty of time to have retrieved the brain tissue (which she passed to Dr. Jenkins at Parkland) from the floor or elsewhere.
But I think there is definitive evidence, that Jackie actually said this, immediately after returning to her seat. This is from Governor Connally's testimony,
Mr. SPECTER. Did she say anything more?
Governor CONNALLY. Yes; she said, I heard her say one time, "I have got his brains in my hand."
(unquote)
That was the last thing Governor Connally seems to have heard, before losing consciousness. But when did he actually pass out? If that happened well after the limo left DP, then perhaps Mark was right. Maybe she did make that statement much later. Fortunately, we don't have to guess about this. This is more of JBC's testimony:
"..I heard Roy Kellerman tell the driver, 'Bill, get out of line.' And then I saw him move, and I assumed he was moving a button or something on the panel of the automobile, and he said, 'Get us to a hospital quick.' I assumed he was saying this to the patrolman, the motorcycle police who were leading us.
At about that time, we began to pull out of the cavalcade, out of the line, and I lost consciousness and didn't regain consciousness until we got to the hospital."
Kellerman grabbed the mike, and the limo did indeed, pull "out of line", passing the lead car, as they approached the Stemmons onramp. Based on his testimony, this is when the Governor passed out. He heard nothing else, before they arrived at Parkland.
But after reaching back across the trunk, Jackie didn't get back in her seat until about Z420. The limo went under the overpass during the Z460's. The rapidly accelerating limousine must have been on the freeway then, within a few seconds after that.
Based on that timing, Jackie could only have had a few seconds to utter the "brains in my hand" statements, in order for the Governor to have heard her, before he lost consciousness.
The point of all this is very clear. Mrs. Kennedy *IMMEDIATELY* stated "I have his brains in my hand", after returning to her seat and her husband. These theories that she tried to escape from the limousine are preposterous, and are nothing more than a painfully transparent attempt to salvage the last remnants of credibility for the notion that one shooter committed this crime.
You can get a good, closup look at her in this stabilized, animated GIF, taken from the MPI, DVD Zfilm:
ftp://www.c-works.com/jackie.gif
There was a gunshot after the Z312 head wound that blew brain matter directly to the rear, including the piece that Jackie retrieved, and the piece of skull that Charles Brehm saw fly backward from the President's head. That was almost certainly, the piece that Dr. Boswell recalled arriving late on the evening of the 22nd.
Bob
--
Check out my website, The JFK Assassination Home Page http://www.c-works.com/jfk/
the FTP site is:
ftp://www.c-works.com/
I love when zombie threads get revived, this one from last millennium and with Bob Harris to boot. It doesn't get any better
than that. As we can see, even way back when, CTs were looking at the wrong things and doing so incorrectly. Somehow
through this process, Bob concluded that there was a shot after the headshot. I wonder if this was before he developed his
pet theory of a shot at Z287.
Does anyone know if Bob is still kicking? He used to make the rounds among the various JFK discussion groups. I'm pretty
sure I haven't seen him since before McAdams left us. It's also been a long time since I've seen one of his coma inducing
videos.
On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 5:12:55 PM UTC-6, JE Corbett wrote:
On Saturday, September 26, 1998 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Robert Harris wrote:
Was Jackie Kennedy trying to escape from the limousine after the head shot
at Z312-313, or was she reaching back to retrieve a piece of her husband's
brain?
One important clue is the fact, that after she returned to her seat, she stated that she was holding her husband's brains in her hand. This is what
Nellie Connally told the WC,
"..and then there was the second shot, and then after the third shot she said, 'They have killed my husband. I have his brains in my hand,' and she
repeated that several times, and that was all the conversation."
Of course, LNers adamantly disagree. Mark Hiatt has claimed that Mrs. Kennedy really didn't say that until long after the limo left Dealey Plaza, giving her plenty of time to have retrieved the brain tissue (which
she passed to Dr. Jenkins at Parkland) from the floor or elsewhere.
But I think there is definitive evidence, that Jackie actually said this,
immediately after returning to her seat. This is from Governor Connally's
testimony,
Mr. SPECTER. Did she say anything more?
Governor CONNALLY. Yes; she said, I heard her say one time, "I have got his brains in my hand."
(unquote)
That was the last thing Governor Connally seems to have heard, before losing consciousness. But when did he actually pass out? If that happened
well after the limo left DP, then perhaps Mark was right. Maybe she did make that statement much later. Fortunately, we don't have to guess about
this. This is more of JBC's testimony:
"..I heard Roy Kellerman tell the driver, 'Bill, get out of line.' And then I saw him move, and I assumed he was moving a button or something on
the panel of the automobile, and he said, 'Get us to a hospital quick.' I
assumed he was saying this to the patrolman, the motorcycle police who were leading us.
At about that time, we began to pull out of the cavalcade, out of the line, and I lost consciousness and didn't regain consciousness until we got to the hospital."
Kellerman grabbed the mike, and the limo did indeed, pull "out of line", passing the lead car, as they approached the Stemmons onramp. Based on his
testimony, this is when the Governor passed out. He heard nothing else, before they arrived at Parkland.
But after reaching back across the trunk, Jackie didn't get back in her seat until about Z420. The limo went under the overpass during the Z460's.
The rapidly accelerating limousine must have been on the freeway then, within a few seconds after that.
Based on that timing, Jackie could only have had a few seconds to utter the "brains in my hand" statements, in order for the Governor to have heard her, before he lost consciousness.
The point of all this is very clear. Mrs. Kennedy *IMMEDIATELY* stated "I
have his brains in my hand", after returning to her seat and her husband.
These theories that she tried to escape from the limousine are preposterous, and are nothing more than a painfully transparent attempt to
salvage the last remnants of credibility for the notion that one shooter committed this crime.
You can get a good, closup look at her in this stabilized, animated GIF, taken from the MPI, DVD Zfilm:
ftp://www.c-works.com/jackie.gif
There was a gunshot after the Z312 head wound that blew brain matter directly to the rear, including the piece that Jackie retrieved, and the piece of skull that Charles Brehm saw fly backward from the President's head. That was almost certainly, the piece that Dr. Boswell recalled arriving late on the evening of the 22nd.
Bob
--
Check out my website, The JFK Assassination Home Page http://www.c-works.com/jfk/
the FTP site is:
ftp://www.c-works.com/
I love when zombie threads get revived, this one from last millennium and with Bob Harris to boot. It doesn't get any better
than that. As we can see, even way back when, CTs were looking at the wrong things and doing so incorrectly. Somehow
through this process, Bob concluded that there was a shot after the headshot. I wonder if this was before he developed his
pet theory of a shot at Z287.
Does anyone know if Bob is still kicking? He used to make the rounds among the various JFK discussion groups. I'm prettyI've tried to find out, but don't have any sources. Also, his very common first and last name are a challenge. I know he thinks I hated his guts. (Well "sort of".) But I didn't really wish any health ill will to the guy!
sure I haven't seen him since before McAdams left us. It's also been a long time since I've seen one of his coma inducing
videos.
On Saturday, September 26, 1998 at 3:00:00?AM UTC-4, Robert Harris wrote:
Was Jackie Kennedy trying to escape from the limousine after the head shot >> at Z312-313, or was she reaching back to retrieve a piece of her husband's >> brain?
One important clue is the fact, that after she returned to her seat, she
stated that she was holding her husband's brains in her hand. This is what >> Nellie Connally told the WC,
"..and then there was the second shot, and then after the third shot she
said, 'They have killed my husband. I have his brains in my hand,' and she >> repeated that several times, and that was all the conversation."
Of course, LNers adamantly disagree. Mark Hiatt has claimed that Mrs.
Kennedy really didn't say that until long after the limo left Dealey
Plaza, giving her plenty of time to have retrieved the brain tissue (which >> she passed to Dr. Jenkins at Parkland) from the floor or elsewhere.
But I think there is definitive evidence, that Jackie actually said this,
immediately after returning to her seat. This is from Governor Connally's
testimony,
Mr. SPECTER. Did she say anything more?
Governor CONNALLY. Yes; she said, I heard her say one time, "I have got
his brains in my hand."
(unquote)
That was the last thing Governor Connally seems to have heard, before
losing consciousness. But when did he actually pass out? If that happened
well after the limo left DP, then perhaps Mark was right. Maybe she did
make that statement much later. Fortunately, we don't have to guess about
this. This is more of JBC's testimony:
"..I heard Roy Kellerman tell the driver, 'Bill, get out of line.' And
then I saw him move, and I assumed he was moving a button or something on
the panel of the automobile, and he said, 'Get us to a hospital quick.' I
assumed he was saying this to the patrolman, the motorcycle police who
were leading us.
At about that time, we began to pull out of the cavalcade, out of the
line, and I lost consciousness and didn't regain consciousness until we
got to the hospital."
Kellerman grabbed the mike, and the limo did indeed, pull "out of line",
passing the lead car, as they approached the Stemmons onramp. Based on his >> testimony, this is when the Governor passed out. He heard nothing else,
before they arrived at Parkland.
But after reaching back across the trunk, Jackie didn't get back in her
seat until about Z420. The limo went under the overpass during the Z460's. >> The rapidly accelerating limousine must have been on the freeway then,
within a few seconds after that.
Based on that timing, Jackie could only have had a few seconds to utter
the "brains in my hand" statements, in order for the Governor to have
heard her, before he lost consciousness.
The point of all this is very clear. Mrs. Kennedy *IMMEDIATELY* stated "I
have his brains in my hand", after returning to her seat and her husband.
These theories that she tried to escape from the limousine are
preposterous, and are nothing more than a painfully transparent attempt to >> salvage the last remnants of credibility for the notion that one shooter
committed this crime.
You can get a good, closup look at her in this stabilized, animated GIF,
taken from the MPI, DVD Zfilm:
ftp://www.c-works.com/jackie.gif
There was a gunshot after the Z312 head wound that blew brain matter
directly to the rear, including the piece that Jackie retrieved, and the
piece of skull that Charles Brehm saw fly backward from the President's
head. That was almost certainly, the piece that Dr. Boswell recalled
arriving late on the evening of the 22nd.
Bob
--
Check out my website, The JFK Assassination Home Page
http://www.c-works.com/jfk/
the FTP site is:
ftp://www.c-works.com/
I love when ...
I never disliked Bob. I didn't think he was too bright, but I never found him to be obnoxious like some of the CTs whom I
don't need to name. We all know who they are. His videos could be used as a cure for insomnia.
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