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  • Re: james altgens in beyond the time barrier

    From Sam McClung@21:1/5 to Sam McClung on Thu Nov 16 16:31:23 2023
    On Saturday, June 4, 2011 at 5:14:39 PM UTC-5, Sam McClung wrote:
    no full version of this on youtube but bits and pieces

    Now there are full versions and even a colorized version https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=beyond+the+time+barrier
    James William "Ike" Altgens aka James Altgens in opening credits

    :45 into this in the scrolling credits
    JAMES ALTGENS
    http://www.veoh.com/watch/v18971456N5XcjTE3
    someone's interpretation of the movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTM0ZVB5VrM
    a two minute trailer
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGhJ_SFZmCE
    some weird skull and bones looking portion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcfalq9j3gs
    notice all the pyramids and triangles
    suppose this movie was training for something big?
    supposedly this movie beat another time travel movie to the theatre, the time machine, suppose the spooks had something to do with that?

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  • From Donald Willis@21:1/5 to Sam McClung on Fri Nov 17 09:26:38 2023
    On Saturday, June 4, 2011 at 3:14:39 PM UTC-7, Sam McClung wrote:
    no full version of this on youtube but bits and pieces
    :45 into this in the scrolling credits
    JAMES ALTGENS
    http://www.veoh.com/watch/v18971456N5XcjTE3
    someone's interpretation of the movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTM0ZVB5VrM
    a two minute trailer
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGhJ_SFZmCE
    some weird skull and bones looking portion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcfalq9j3gs
    notice all the pyramids and triangles
    suppose this movie was training for something big?
    supposedly this movie beat another time travel movie to the theatre, the time machine, suppose the spooks had something to do with that?

    If so, it'd be close (as they say in "Red River")--both films were released in July 1960 according to IMDb. Whereas the ripoff of "Fellini Satyricon", plain old "Satyricon", beat Fellini by several months--March/September 1969...

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  • From Sam McClung@21:1/5 to Donald Willis on Fri Nov 17 12:44:28 2023
    On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 11:26:41 AM UTC-6, Donald Willis wrote:
    On Saturday, June 4, 2011 at 3:14:39 PM UTC-7, Sam McClung wrote:
    no full version of this on youtube but bits and pieces
    :45 into this in the scrolling credits
    JAMES ALTGENS
    http://www.veoh.com/watch/v18971456N5XcjTE3
    someone's interpretation of the movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTM0ZVB5VrM
    a two minute trailer
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGhJ_SFZmCE
    some weird skull and bones looking portion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcfalq9j3gs
    notice all the pyramids and triangles
    suppose this movie was training for something big?
    supposedly this movie beat another time travel movie to the theatre, the time machine, suppose the spooks had something to do with that?
    If so, it'd be close (as they say in "Red River")--both films were released in July 1960 according to IMDb. Whereas the ripoff of "Fellini Satyricon", plain old "Satyricon", beat Fellini by several months--March/September 1969...

    Per Wikipedia Beyond The Time Barrier was released September 1960 and The Time Machine was released August 17, 1960.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_the_Time_Barrier https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Time_Machine_(1960_film)

    "A good way to bring in audiences for your low budget film is to time its release with that of a prestige film with a similar theme, this was the case with Edgar G. Ulmer Beyond the Time Barrier, a film that was quickly made and rushed into theatres to
    exploit the success of George Pal’s much more lavish The Time Machine. Obviously, one of those films has remained a classic of the genre while the other has been pretty much lost in time, but that is not to say that Ulmer’s film was without merit."
    from https://manapop.com/film/beyond-the-time-barrier-1960-review/

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  • From Donald Willis@21:1/5 to Sam McClung on Fri Nov 17 13:35:44 2023
    On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 12:44:30 PM UTC-8, Sam McClung wrote:
    On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 11:26:41 AM UTC-6, Donald Willis wrote:
    On Saturday, June 4, 2011 at 3:14:39 PM UTC-7, Sam McClung wrote:
    no full version of this on youtube but bits and pieces
    :45 into this in the scrolling credits
    JAMES ALTGENS
    http://www.veoh.com/watch/v18971456N5XcjTE3
    someone's interpretation of the movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTM0ZVB5VrM
    a two minute trailer
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGhJ_SFZmCE
    some weird skull and bones looking portion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcfalq9j3gs
    notice all the pyramids and triangles
    suppose this movie was training for something big?
    supposedly this movie beat another time travel movie to the theatre, the time machine, suppose the spooks had something to do with that?
    If so, it'd be close (as they say in "Red River")--both films were released in July 1960 according to IMDb. Whereas the ripoff of "Fellini Satyricon", plain old "Satyricon", beat Fellini by several months--March/September 1969...
    Per Wikipedia Beyond The Time Barrier was released September 1960 and The Time Machine was released August 17, 1960.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_the_Time_Barrier https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Time_Machine_(1960_film)

    "A good way to bring in audiences for your low budget film is to time its release with that of a prestige film with a similar theme, this was the case with Edgar G. Ulmer Beyond the Time Barrier, a film that was quickly made and rushed into theatres to
    exploit the success of George Pal’s much more lavish The Time Machine. Obviously, one of those films has remained a classic of the genre while the other has been pretty much lost in time, but that is not to say that Ulmer’s film was without merit."
    from https://manapop.com/film/beyond-the-time-barrier-1960-review/

    Interesting--the 50s started that way too, in sf movies. The "B" imitation of the "A" 'Destination Moon"--"Rocketship X-M"--I believe got to the starting gate first.

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  • From Sam McClung@21:1/5 to Donald Willis on Fri Nov 17 14:18:31 2023
    On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 3:35:46 PM UTC-6, Donald Willis wrote:
    On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 12:44:30 PM UTC-8, Sam McClung wrote:
    On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 11:26:41 AM UTC-6, Donald Willis wrote:
    On Saturday, June 4, 2011 at 3:14:39 PM UTC-7, Sam McClung wrote:
    no full version of this on youtube but bits and pieces
    :45 into this in the scrolling credits
    JAMES ALTGENS
    http://www.veoh.com/watch/v18971456N5XcjTE3
    someone's interpretation of the movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTM0ZVB5VrM
    a two minute trailer
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGhJ_SFZmCE
    some weird skull and bones looking portion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcfalq9j3gs
    notice all the pyramids and triangles
    suppose this movie was training for something big?
    supposedly this movie beat another time travel movie to the theatre, the
    time machine, suppose the spooks had something to do with that?
    If so, it'd be close (as they say in "Red River")--both films were released in July 1960 according to IMDb. Whereas the ripoff of "Fellini Satyricon", plain old "Satyricon", beat Fellini by several months--March/September 1969...
    Per Wikipedia Beyond The Time Barrier was released September 1960 and The Time Machine was released August 17, 1960.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_the_Time_Barrier https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Time_Machine_(1960_film)

    "A good way to bring in audiences for your low budget film is to time its release with that of a prestige film with a similar theme, this was the case with Edgar G. Ulmer Beyond the Time Barrier, a film that was quickly made and rushed into theatres
    to exploit the success of George Pal’s much more lavish The Time Machine. Obviously, one of those films has remained a classic of the genre while the other has been pretty much lost in time, but that is not to say that Ulmer’s film was without merit."

    from https://manapop.com/film/beyond-the-time-barrier-1960-review/
    Interesting--the 50s started that way too, in sf movies. The "B" imitation of the "A" 'Destination Moon"--"Rocketship X-M"--I believe got to the starting gate first.

    James Altgens married Clara Bell Halliburton in July 1944. One may wonder if she was related to the Halliburton known for the allegations regarding LBJ Halliburton and Vietnam.

    Who put James in Dealey Plaza to get pictures of the kill shot?
    <altgens to trask quote>
    "[T]o have a President shot to death right in front of you," Altgens continued, "and keep your cool and do what you're supposed to do—I'm not real sure that the most seasoned photographers would be able to do it." Still, he said, "there is no excuse
    for this. I should have made the picture that I was set up to make. And I didn't do it."
    <end quote>

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