On Saturday, December 23, 2006 at 12:34:38 PM UTC-6,
curtj...@hotmail.com wrote:
These people are not household names when it comes to the JFK
assassination? They are still important for what they saw and were
able to give us as far as their observational thoughts. Have you ever
heard of Cheryl McKinnon a journalism major who later became a
reporter? Have you ever heard of James L. Simmons, Nolan H. Potter,
Richard C. Dodd, Clemon E. Johnson, Walter L. Linborn, and Thomas J.
Murphy. These people saw what Sam Holland, and Jean Hill and perhaps a
Dave Weigman saw. Before we get to their observations let's get a view
of Dealey that day from Zapruder's Pedestal, and actually see where the Snipers Nest is in relation to that. If you scroll down to the third
picture of the McCarthy photos here, you will see just that. http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neal.mccarthy/Dealey.htm
It will be important to know also the way the wind went in Dealey that
day of Nov. 22, 1963. From the north. That means the wind would blow
from the Grassy Knoll on the north side toward The Grassy Knoll on the
south side from Elm Street passed Main Street, toward Commerce Street.
I would like to interject while one looks at these pics as to Abraham Zapruder and Emmett Hudson's view of shots coming from behind them.
One can see that from Zapruder's pedestal and where Mr. Hudson is,
there is 'no behind' when it comes to the 'Sniper's Nest' of the far
east end of the sixth floor book depository.
It's also interesting to know how or why some of the people standing in
front of the TSBD entrance which is right below the SN, didn't hear any
shots from above? From Bill Lovelady's observation shots came "right
around that concrete deal on that knoll". Many inside the TSBD during
the motorcade said it was from the westside....and we know which way
the folks on the 5th floor went after the shooting was over.
Here is Cheryl McKinnon who was intent on being very observant so she
could write her observations for a class project who was situated next
to the Newman's on the Grassy Knoll north. "There were puffs of white
smoke still hung in the air in small patches." "The only thing I am absolutely sure of today is that at least two shots of the shots fired
that day in Dealey Plaza came from behind wher I stood on the Knoll,
not from the book Depository."
James L. Simmons in a 1966 filmed interview. "And there was a puff of
smoke that came from underneath the trees on the embankment directly in
front of the wooden trees."
Nolan H. Potter, Richard C. Dodd, and Clemon E. Johnson, the railroad
workers situated on the Triple Underpass. "saw smoke off to their
left."
Dodd's film interview. "smoke came from behind the hedge on the north
side of the plaza."
Other Railroad workers interviewed in Dallas 1966. Walter L. Winborn,
and Thomas J. Murphy--- confirmed seeing smoke in the trees on the GN.
Futher Smoke Corroboration: From TV news film was analyzed by
assassination researchers. NBC photographer Dave Weigman ws riding in
the seventh car in the motorcade. Hearing shots, Weigman started
filming even before the firing stopped. He then jumped out of the
convertible and ran up the GN with his camera still operating. Because
of all this motion, his blurred and jerky film was overlooked as assassination evidence until recently . However in one clear frame,
which depicts the presidential limousine just entering the TU, a puff
of smoke is clearly visible hanging in front of the trees on the knoll--exactly where Holland and the other railroad workers claimed to
have seen it. It has been well established that there was no other
natural source of smoke in that area that day.
Jean Hill. "I saw a man fire from behind the wooden fence. I saw a
puff of smoke and some movement of the GN where he was. [fifteen feet
north of the eastern corner of the wooden picket fence]. Saw man
running toward behind the TSBD.
Sam Holland. WC testimony. "....and a puff of smoke came out about
six or eight feet above the ground right out from under those trees."
1966 Interview of Sam Holland. "I looked over to where I thought the
shot came from and I saw a puff of smoke still lingering under the
trees in front of the wooden fence. The report sounded like it came
from behind the wooden fence...I know where the third shot came
from---behind the picket fence. There's no doubt whatsoever in my
mind."
Nix film has "flashes of light"
A. J. Millican never called who was between the TSBD and GN. "heard
three shots from up toward Elm by TSBD, and then after two more from
the Arcade (GN) between the bookstore and TU.
Jesse C. Price, building engineer of the Union Terminal Annex on the southside of the Plaza. After describing the shots by the north
Knoll..."a man running behind the wooden fence towards the passenger
cars" ...carrying what could have been a rifle. He was on top of the
building just to get a birdseye view.
Ed Hoffman the deaf mute. Situated 200 yards west of the parking lot
on the shoulder of the freeway unaware of the motorcade yet saw:
Movement on the north side of the picket fence, a man running west
along the back side of the fence wearing a dark suit, tie, and overcoat carrying a rifle in his hands. As the man reached a metal pipe railing
at the west end of the fence, he tossed a rifle to a second man on the
west side of the pipe near the railroad tracks. The second man was
wearing light coveralls and a railroad worker's hat. The second man
caught the rifle, ducked behind the large railroad switch box and disassembled the rifle into a soft brown bag, then walked north into
the railyards (in the general direction of Lee Bowers' Tower).
More obsure people who saw the first missed shot from the railroad
crew.
Austin Miller and Royce G.Skelton who describe in detail how and where
the concrete flew to the left of JFK's limo as they were situated on
the Triple Underpass.
These people were only 'Obsure' because of the many people that
intrusted a true investigation were never given one. They are beyond
THE SMOKE and mirrors.
CJ
Maybe those 8 or so witnesses saw smoke because a Secret Service man spontaneously combusted in the acoustic position area.
This could also be the flash of light Bowers and possibly others (Jean Hill, Mary Moorman, Evelyn King, et alia) may have seen.
Or maybe chain smoker Souetre was was puffing on one of his cigarettes whose butts were later seen on the ground in the acoustic position area. Or maybe Cigarette Smoking Man from aXe Files.
Seems Cheryl McKinnon may have been mistaken for Doris Mumford (deceased?) by some. Making Mumford the woman on the north knoll in the photograph.
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