• Re: Witnesses Hearing Two Shots From The North Knoll

    From Sam McClung@21:1/5 to Sam McClung on Sat Oct 21 18:03:31 2023
    On Wednesday, October 15, 2008 at 10:12:29 AM UTC-5, Sam McClung wrote:
    Kenneth O'Donnell - presidential assistant in trailing limousine -
    says he was sure he heard two shots come from behind the fence on the
    north grassy knoll, told WC something different due to pressure from
    FBI
    David Powers - presidential assistant in trailing limousine - heard
    what O'Donnell heard, 2 shots, north knoll origination
    Gordon Arnold - on the north grassy knoll in front of Lawrence's
    sniping nest , said "a second shot was at least fired over my head", indicating 2 shots coming from the north grassy knoll, mentioned a
    "whiz" sound
    Unnamed Witness - on the north grassy knoll, heard two shots come over
    head from fence on north grassy knoll

    I believe this unnamed witness has probably passed on perhaps years ago, at some point after the 2008 date of the above copied post of mine.

    This person saw what I consider to be the last shot fired, shot 8 in my sequence, originating in the frame Oswald window by Cain (his third acoustic distraction shot) and hitting the north knoll near the unnamed witness.

    Charlie's Wallace's contact, the Dean, indicated two shots from the
    north knoll, both hitting JFK, and the sniper was a hunter

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  • From Sam McClung@21:1/5 to Sam McClung on Sat Oct 21 19:31:41 2023
    On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 8:03:32 PM UTC-5, Sam McClung wrote:
    On Wednesday, October 15, 2008 at 10:12:29 AM UTC-5, Sam McClung wrote:
    Kenneth O'Donnell - presidential assistant in trailing limousine -
    says he was sure he heard two shots come from behind the fence on the north grassy knoll, told WC something different due to pressure from
    FBI
    David Powers - presidential assistant in trailing limousine - heard
    what O'Donnell heard, 2 shots, north knoll origination
    Gordon Arnold - on the north grassy knoll in front of Lawrence's
    sniping nest , said "a second shot was at least fired over my head", indicating 2 shots coming from the north grassy knoll, mentioned a
    "whiz" sound
    Unnamed Witness - on the north grassy knoll, heard two shots come over head from fence on north grassy knoll
    I believe this unnamed witness has probably passed on perhaps years ago, at some point after the 2008 date of the above copied post of mine.

    This person saw what I consider to be the last shot fired, shot 8 in my sequence, originating in the frame Oswald window by Cain (his third acoustic distraction shot) and hitting the north knoll near the unnamed witness.
    Charlie's Wallace's contact, the Dean, indicated two shots from the
    north knoll, both hitting JFK, and the sniper was a hunter

    Was Dodi Doris?
    <begin quote>
    August 23, 2008

    Conspiracy Sunday: Eyewitness to the Kennedy Assassination
    "In Her Own Words" by Dodi Smith

    The following is a never before told interview featuring a first hand
    account of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy on November
    22, 1963. The interview was conducted by Daniel Zanoza, Executive
    Director, RFFM.org

    EDITOR'S NOTE: Dodi Smith is a grandmother who resides somewhere in
    Texas. For obvious reasons, which will be revealed in her answers, we
    have taken every attempt to respect her wishes for privacy. Mrs.
    Smith may consider answering some of the comments that may be posted
    after her story on RFFM.org.
    ...
    A. I heard screams behind me and sounds like gunshots, then a
    whizzing sound as something passed close by me. I turned and look
    behind me at the Stockyard Fence where it seemed to becoming from.
    ..........
    Were those shots we heard behind us,
    the same we felt and heard whizzing past? Had the President been shot
    from what we could see of his head in his wife's lap? I was using my binoculars...
    ...
    Q. Did you hear any shots? And, if you did, could you tell with any
    certainty where they were coming from?

    A. Oh, yes. I heard two distinctive shots, one whizzing close by me.
    Those shots did not come from the depository building which was to the
    left of me, they came from behind me, from the Stockyard Fence. If I
    remember correctly, one of those shots hit the grassy knoll just in
    front of us.
    <end quote>
    from https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/KG5m1sauzRg/m/ZCtG2c6dGSoJ

    Seems she may have heard Tippit's first and only shot and Roscoe's first of two shots go over her head.
    She doesn't mention Roscoe's second shot because it didn't go over her head.

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  • From Sam McClung@21:1/5 to Sam McClung on Sat Oct 21 20:07:42 2023
    On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 9:31:42 PM UTC-5, Sam McClung wrote:
    On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 8:03:32 PM UTC-5, Sam McClung wrote:
    On Wednesday, October 15, 2008 at 10:12:29 AM UTC-5, Sam McClung wrote:
    Kenneth O'Donnell - presidential assistant in trailing limousine -
    says he was sure he heard two shots come from behind the fence on the north grassy knoll, told WC something different due to pressure from
    FBI
    David Powers - presidential assistant in trailing limousine - heard
    what O'Donnell heard, 2 shots, north knoll origination
    Gordon Arnold - on the north grassy knoll in front of Lawrence's
    sniping nest , said "a second shot was at least fired over my head", indicating 2 shots coming from the north grassy knoll, mentioned a "whiz" sound
    Unnamed Witness - on the north grassy knoll, heard two shots come over head from fence on north grassy knoll
    I believe this unnamed witness has probably passed on perhaps years ago, at some point after the 2008 date of the above copied post of mine.

    This person saw what I consider to be the last shot fired, shot 8 in my sequence, originating in the frame Oswald window by Cain (his third acoustic distraction shot) and hitting the north knoll near the unnamed witness.
    Charlie's Wallace's contact, the Dean, indicated two shots from the north knoll, both hitting JFK, and the sniper was a hunter
    Was Dodi Doris?
    <begin quote>
    August 23, 2008

    Conspiracy Sunday: Eyewitness to the Kennedy Assassination
    "In Her Own Words" by Dodi Smith

    The following is a never before told interview featuring a first hand account of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy on November
    22, 1963. The interview was conducted by Daniel Zanoza, Executive
    Director, RFFM.org

    EDITOR'S NOTE: Dodi Smith is a grandmother who resides somewhere in
    Texas. For obvious reasons, which will be revealed in her answers, we
    have taken every attempt to respect her wishes for privacy. Mrs.
    Smith may consider answering some of the comments that may be posted
    after her story on RFFM.org.
    ...
    A. I heard screams behind me and sounds like gunshots, then a
    whizzing sound as something passed close by me. I turned and look
    behind me at the Stockyard Fence where it seemed to becoming from. ..........
    Were those shots we heard behind us,
    the same we felt and heard whizzing past? Had the President been shot
    from what we could see of his head in his wife's lap? I was using my binoculars...
    ...
    Q. Did you hear any shots? And, if you did, could you tell with any certainty where they were coming from?

    A. Oh, yes. I heard two distinctive shots, one whizzing close by me.
    Those shots did not come from the depository building which was to the
    left of me, they came from behind me, from the Stockyard Fence. If I remember correctly, one of those shots hit the grassy knoll just in
    front of us.
    <end quote>
    from https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/KG5m1sauzRg/m/ZCtG2c6dGSoJ

    Seems she may have heard Tippit's first and only shot and Roscoe's first of two shots go over her head.
    She doesn't mention Roscoe's second shot because it didn't go over her head.

    So Dodi or Doris heard "whizzing" while Gordon Arnold mentions a "whiz."

    Both describing suppressed shots from the suppressed 7.65 Mausers used by Roscoe and JD.

    <begin quote>
    The first two shots that Arnold heard didn't come from the Texas School Book Depository Building because "you wouldn't hear a whiz go over the top of your head like that," he said. "A say a whiz--you don't really hear a whiz of a bullet, you hear just a
    shock wave. You feel it...You feel something and then a report comes right behind it. It's just like the end of a muzzle blast.
    <end quote>
    from https://digitalcollections-baylor.quartexcollections.com/Documents/Detail/ss-imposters-spotted-by-jfk-witnesses-by-earl-golz-dallas-morning-news-vol.-3-no.-2/675919

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