Each 500 miles from Dallas. One easterly, one westerly. One near New Orleans which is known of. This may be where the patsy Oswald was trained by Ricardo "Monkey" Morales.

Another training camp may have been in the foothills right outside Van Horn Texas, as related by Ricky White and other info. Some of the topography there with all the hills and canyons and arroyos etc. is probably similar to the topography of Dealey
Plaza.

Seems Ricky mentioned in the summer of 1963 he (when 3 years old supposedly) and his dad were there near Van Horn with others Roscoe may have served in the military with. So the others were at least veterans if not still on active duty (including for an
agency). Who were these others? They were shooting at moving targets or a car or both maybe

Charles Harrelson was arrested on I-10 just east of Van Horn in 1980. He had killed Federal Judge John H. Woods, Jr. in San Antonio Texas in 1979. Harrelson thought there was an electronic bug in the Corvette (supposedly his girlfriend's) he was driving.
He parked it over a ditch, tried to shoot the muffler but hit the tire instead. So much for his shooting capabilities, maybe being high on cocaine affected his shooting. Witnesses called the cops who showed up soon and in the ensuing standoff that lasted
for hours Harrelson admitted involvement in the JFK assassination as well as killing Judge Woods, if I recall correctly. Note the proximity of Harrelson to Van Horn, a remote area of Texas. Was Harrelson there when Roscoe and others were there per Ricky?

Harrelson had three brothers: Leonard Humphrey Harrelson; Claude Elegan Harrelson; and Edward Leon Harrelson, another brother who died very young.

Charles, Leonard, and Claude all served in the US Navy. Leonard was a hypnotist and world renowned polygrapher, with many connections in the FBI, etc. He was 13 years older than Charles

Charles Harrelson may have fathered Mathew McConaughey.

As a side note, per Chauncey Holt, Harrelson was pointed out to Holt as being a part owner of Masen's Gun Shop in Dallas. Also per Holt Masen's Gun Shop got an order in the summer of 1963 from the CIA shop Holt worked for in California for one of every
model of Manlicher Carcano.

Harrelson is not a real common name. There was a J. Barry Harrelson who worked for the CIA. Related?

Jean Rene Souetre may have been at the Van Horn training camp, practicing with his crew (did Souetre and Roscoe work together before?), to include overhand tossing the rifle to Charles Harrelson like they did over the steam pipe in the parking lot, as
seen by Ed Hoffman?

Who else could have been there? JD Tippit? Frank Fiorini/Sturgis? Maybe a limo driver?

Supposedly they had radio communications with someone in Mexico. the outdoor radio antenna still pointed that way in the video "The West Texas Connection."

If the actual 7.65 Mausers used by the 3 snipers were practiced with near Van Horn the Mausers could have originated in California (or elsewhere), gone by the Texas and Pacific Railway to Van Horn for practice in the training camp then on to Dallas,
though possibly Sturgis with his Mauser wasn't at the Van Horn training camp but practiced in Florida with his "baby", the suppressed rifle in the trunk of one of the two cars in the Florida to Texas trip by Sturgis, Lorenz, Oswald, et alia.

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On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 11:23:05 AM UTC-5, Sam McClung wrote:

Each 500 miles from Dallas. One easterly, one westerly. One near New Orleans which is known of. This may be where the patsy Oswald was trained by Ricardo "Monkey" Morales.

Another training camp may have been in the foothills right outside Van Horn Texas, as related by Ricky White and other info. Some of the topography there with all the hills and canyons and arroyos etc. is probably similar to the topography of Dealey

Plaza.

Seems Ricky mentioned in the summer of 1963 he (when 3 years old supposedly) and his dad were there near Van Horn with others Roscoe may have served in the military with. So the others were at least veterans if not still on active duty (including for

an agency). Who were these others? They were shooting at moving targets or a car or both maybe

Charles Harrelson was arrested on I-10 just east of Van Horn in 1980. He had killed Federal Judge John H. Woods, Jr. in San Antonio Texas in 1979. Harrelson thought there was an electronic bug in the Corvette (supposedly his girlfriend's) he was

driving. He parked it over a ditch, tried to shoot the muffler but hit the tire instead. So much for his shooting capabilities, maybe being high on cocaine affected his shooting. Witnesses called the cops who showed up soon and in the ensuing standoff
that lasted for hours Harrelson admitted involvement in the JFK assassination as well as killing Judge Woods, if I recall correctly. Note the proximity of Harrelson to Van Horn, a remote area of Texas. Was Harrelson there when Roscoe and others were
there per Ricky?

Harrelson had three brothers: Leonard Humphrey Harrelson; Claude Elegan Harrelson; and Edward Leon Harrelson, another brother who died very young.

Charles, Leonard, and Claude all served in the US Navy. Leonard was a hypnotist and world renowned polygrapher, with many connections in the FBI, etc. He was 13 years older than Charles

Charles Harrelson may have fathered Mathew McConaughey.

As a side note, per Chauncey Holt, Harrelson was pointed out to Holt as being a part owner of Masen's Gun Shop in Dallas. Also per Holt Masen's Gun Shop got an order in the summer of 1963 from the CIA shop Holt worked for in California for one of every

model of Manlicher Carcano.

Harrelson is not a real common name. There was a J. Barry Harrelson who worked for the CIA. Related?

Jean Rene Souetre may have been at the Van Horn training camp, practicing with his crew (did Souetre and Roscoe work together before?), to include overhand tossing the rifle to Charles Harrelson like they did over the steam pipe in the parking lot, as

seen by Ed Hoffman?

Who else could have been there? JD Tippit? Frank Fiorini/Sturgis? Maybe a limo driver?

Supposedly they had radio communications with someone in Mexico. the outdoor radio antenna still pointed that way in the video "The West Texas Connection."

If the actual 7.65 Mausers used by the 3 snipers were practiced with near Van Horn the Mausers could have originated in California (or elsewhere), gone by the Texas and Pacific Railway to Van Horn for practice in the training camp then on to Dallas,

though possibly Sturgis with his Mauser wasn't at the Van Horn training camp but practiced in Florida with his "baby", the suppressed rifle in the trunk of one of the two cars in the Florida to Texas trip by Sturgis, Lorenz, Oswald, et alia.

Various excerpts from 1990 Austin American Statesman article:

Ricky White says his father’s diary referred to several trips made during this period to a remote area in the foothills near Van Horn, Texas. There, Roscoe White and several others practised shooting at moving targets, Ricky White says. Although he was
younger than 3 years old,Ricky White says he has vague memories of being taken to Van Horn. “My impression was they (others at the Van Horn camp) had been working with my father in the military,” Ricky White says, “because they had known each other
well when this took place.”
...
The diary indicated each of the three riflemen was accompanied by an assistant who disassembled the rifles after the shooting and carried them out of the area, Ricky White says. According to the diary, Ricky White says, his father was to escape with
Oswald by riding to Red Bird Airport in South Dallas in a city police car driven by a friend and fellow officer who did not know what was happening.
...
During a recent interview with the American-Statesman, Shaw said Roscoe White told him at the time that he and his family were “in danger.” White confessed to leading “a double life,” the minister says, “and I knew something was not right,
something strange was going on.” Shaw says that within the last two years he tape recorded a number of counselling sessions with Geneva White about her recollection of what she believed to be her former husband’s role in assassinations. Shaw, who is
very guarded in talking about the case, says Ricky White has only a small portion of the full story, which he says “will knock your eyes out.” Shaw says he met with the Whites several times in 1970-71, but the Kennedy assassination was not mentioned.
In 1971, Roscoe White was fatally injured in an explosive fire at M&M Equipment. Before White died, Shaw talked with him in the hospital.

He recalls White saying he didn’t think the fire was an accident – that he had seen a man running away just before the fire. After the funeral, Geneva White moved her family back to Paris. There, about four years later, the White home was burglarized
and some of Roscoe White’s personal possessions were taken, Ricky White says.

Police captured the two burglars and returned the possessions which included some of Roscoe White’s photos – among them a shot taken by Marina Oswald of her husband Lee Harvey Oswald holding a rifle in the back yard of their Dallas home in 1963.

....
Shaw says Geneva White told him she confronted her husband after an organized crime figure approached her in New Orleans in 1971 and told her to deliver a warning to her husband. According to Shaw, Geneva White was shown nearly a dozen photographs and
identified the man in New Orleans as Charles Nicoletti, formerly the number one hitman with the Sam Giancana Mafia family in Chicago. Nicoletti was executed gangland style in 1977, about a year after Giancana also met the same fate.

Shaw says that, when she returned to Dallas and told her husband of the ominous meeting in New Orleans, “he told her everything.” Shaw says that, as he lay in a hospital dying from burns in 1971 Roscoe White told him that he had been marked for
execution by some of his underworld associates and that he believed the fire had been deliberately started to kill him.
...
from https://maryelizabethbodycare.com/john-f-kennedy/

Seems I read online somewhere Roscoe's Minister Shaw became a millionaire, maybe it was as a televangelist.

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On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 8:59:03 PM UTC-5, Sam McClung wrote:

On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 11:23:05 AM UTC-5, Sam McClung wrote:

Each 500 miles from Dallas. One easterly, one westerly. One near New Orleans which is known of. This may be where the patsy Oswald was trained by Ricardo "Monkey" Morales.

Another training camp may have been in the foothills right outside Van Horn Texas, as related by Ricky White and other info. Some of the topography there with all the hills and canyons and arroyos etc. is probably similar to the topography of Dealey

Plaza.

Seems Ricky mentioned in the summer of 1963 he (when 3 years old supposedly) and his dad were there near Van Horn with others Roscoe may have served in the military with. So the others were at least veterans if not still on active duty (including for

an agency). Who were these others? They were shooting at moving targets or a car or both maybe

Charles Harrelson was arrested on I-10 just east of Van Horn in 1980. He had killed Federal Judge John H. Woods, Jr. in San Antonio Texas in 1979. Harrelson thought there was an electronic bug in the Corvette (supposedly his girlfriend's) he was

driving. He parked it over a ditch, tried to shoot the muffler but hit the tire instead. So much for his shooting capabilities, maybe being high on cocaine affected his shooting. Witnesses called the cops who showed up soon and in the ensuing standoff
that lasted for hours Harrelson admitted involvement in the JFK assassination as well as killing Judge Woods, if I recall correctly. Note the proximity of Harrelson to Van Horn, a remote area of Texas. Was Harrelson there when Roscoe and others were
there per Ricky?

Harrelson had three brothers: Leonard Humphrey Harrelson; Claude Elegan Harrelson; and Edward Leon Harrelson, another brother who died very young.

Charles, Leonard, and Claude all served in the US Navy. Leonard was a hypnotist and world renowned polygrapher, with many connections in the FBI, etc. He was 13 years older than Charles

Charles Harrelson may have fathered Mathew McConaughey.

As a side note, per Chauncey Holt, Harrelson was pointed out to Holt as being a part owner of Masen's Gun Shop in Dallas. Also per Holt Masen's Gun Shop got an order in the summer of 1963 from the CIA shop Holt worked for in California for one of

every model of Manlicher Carcano.

Harrelson is not a real common name. There was a J. Barry Harrelson who worked for the CIA. Related?

Jean Rene Souetre may have been at the Van Horn training camp, practicing with his crew (did Souetre and Roscoe work together before?), to include overhand tossing the rifle to Charles Harrelson like they did over the steam pipe in the parking lot,

as seen by Ed Hoffman?

Who else could have been there? JD Tippit? Frank Fiorini/Sturgis? Maybe a limo driver?

Supposedly they had radio communications with someone in Mexico. the outdoor radio antenna still pointed that way in the video "The West Texas Connection."

If the actual 7.65 Mausers used by the 3 snipers were practiced with near Van Horn the Mausers could have originated in California (or elsewhere), gone by the Texas and Pacific Railway to Van Horn for practice in the training camp then on to Dallas,

though possibly Sturgis with his Mauser wasn't at the Van Horn training camp but practiced in Florida with his "baby", the suppressed rifle in the trunk of one of the two cars in the Florida to Texas trip by Sturgis, Lorenz, Oswald, et alia.

Various excerpts from 1990 Austin American Statesman article:

Ricky White says his father’s diary referred to several trips made during this period to a remote area in the foothills near Van Horn, Texas. There, Roscoe White and several others practised shooting at moving targets, Ricky White says. Although he

was younger than 3 years old,Ricky White says he has vague memories of being taken to Van Horn. “My impression was they (others at the Van Horn camp) had been working with my father in the military,” Ricky White says, “because they had known each
other well when this took place.”

...
The diary indicated each of the three riflemen was accompanied by an assistant who disassembled the rifles after the shooting and carried them out of the area, Ricky White says. According to the diary, Ricky White says, his father was to escape with

Oswald by riding to Red Bird Airport in South Dallas in a city police car driven by a friend and fellow officer who did not know what was happening.

...
During a recent interview with the American-Statesman, Shaw said Roscoe White told him at the time that he and his family were “in danger.” White confessed to leading “a double life,” the minister says, “and I knew something was not right,

something strange was going on.” Shaw says that within the last two years he tape recorded a number of counselling sessions with Geneva White about her recollection of what she believed to be her former husband’s role in assassinations. Shaw, who is
very guarded in talking about the case, says Ricky White has only a small portion of the full story, which he says “will knock your eyes out.” Shaw says he met with the Whites several times in 1970-71, but the Kennedy assassination was not mentioned.
In 1971, Roscoe White was fatally injured in an explosive fire at M&M Equipment. Before White died, Shaw talked with him in the hospital.

He recalls White saying he didn’t think the fire was an accident – that he had seen a man running away just before the fire. After the funeral, Geneva White moved her family back to Paris. There, about four years later, the White home was

burglarized and some of Roscoe White’s personal possessions were taken, Ricky White says.

Police captured the two burglars and returned the possessions which included some of Roscoe White’s photos – among them a shot taken by Marina Oswald of her husband Lee Harvey Oswald holding a rifle in the back yard of their Dallas home in 1963.

....
Shaw says Geneva White told him she confronted her husband after an organized crime figure approached her in New Orleans in 1971 and told her to deliver a warning to her husband. According to Shaw, Geneva White was shown nearly a dozen photographs and

identified the man in New Orleans as Charles Nicoletti, formerly the number one hitman with the Sam Giancana Mafia family in Chicago. Nicoletti was executed gangland style in 1977, about a year after Giancana also met the same fate.

Shaw says that, when she returned to Dallas and told her husband of the ominous meeting in New Orleans, “he told her everything.” Shaw says that, as he lay in a hospital dying from burns in 1971 Roscoe White told him that he had been marked for

execution by some of his underworld associates and that he believed the fire had been deliberately started to kill him.

...
from https://maryelizabethbodycare.com/john-f-kennedy/

Seems I read online somewhere Roscoe's Minister Shaw became a millionaire, maybe it was as a televangelist.

"Wim Dankbaar...Did you know that Ricky White, son of Roscoe White another suspect in the assassination, recalled practice shoothing at an automobile near the McVay ranch in Van Horn?"
from https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/8030-van-horn-and-the-west-texas-connection/

The McVay Ranch is now Red Rock Ranch

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Red+Rock+Ranch/@31.0621019,-104.8591805,600m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x86e5e623522a6039:0xc7866d8ebefd21cf!8m2!3d31.0619043!4d-104.8567772!16s%2Fg%2F1pp2vk2p3?hl=en&entry=ttu

Zoom out to see Van Horn and further out to see the region.

Charles Harrelson was arrested just east of Van Horn on I-10 in 1980.

A picture paints a thousand houses...

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On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 2:54:47 PM UTC-5, Sam McClung wrote:

On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 8:59:03 PM UTC-5, Sam McClung wrote:

On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 11:23:05 AM UTC-5, Sam McClung wrote:

Each 500 miles from Dallas. One easterly, one westerly. One near New Orleans which is known of. This may be where the patsy Oswald was trained by Ricardo "Monkey" Morales.

Another training camp may have been in the foothills right outside Van Horn Texas, as related by Ricky White and other info. Some of the topography there with all the hills and canyons and arroyos etc. is probably similar to the topography of

Dealey Plaza.

Seems Ricky mentioned in the summer of 1963 he (when 3 years old supposedly) and his dad were there near Van Horn with others Roscoe may have served in the military with. So the others were at least veterans if not still on active duty (including

for an agency). Who were these others? They were shooting at moving targets or a car or both maybe

Charles Harrelson was arrested on I-10 just east of Van Horn in 1980. He had killed Federal Judge John H. Woods, Jr. in San Antonio Texas in 1979. Harrelson thought there was an electronic bug in the Corvette (supposedly his girlfriend's) he was

driving. He parked it over a ditch, tried to shoot the muffler but hit the tire instead. So much for his shooting capabilities, maybe being high on cocaine affected his shooting. Witnesses called the cops who showed up soon and in the ensuing standoff
that lasted for hours Harrelson admitted involvement in the JFK assassination as well as killing Judge Woods, if I recall correctly. Note the proximity of Harrelson to Van Horn, a remote area of Texas. Was Harrelson there when Roscoe and others were
there per Ricky?

Harrelson had three brothers: Leonard Humphrey Harrelson; Claude Elegan Harrelson; and Edward Leon Harrelson, another brother who died very young.

Charles, Leonard, and Claude all served in the US Navy. Leonard was a hypnotist and world renowned polygrapher, with many connections in the FBI, etc. He was 13 years older than Charles

Charles Harrelson may have fathered Mathew McConaughey.

As a side note, per Chauncey Holt, Harrelson was pointed out to Holt as being a part owner of Masen's Gun Shop in Dallas. Also per Holt Masen's Gun Shop got an order in the summer of 1963 from the CIA shop Holt worked for in California for one of

every model of Manlicher Carcano.

Harrelson is not a real common name. There was a J. Barry Harrelson who worked for the CIA. Related?

Jean Rene Souetre may have been at the Van Horn training camp, practicing with his crew (did Souetre and Roscoe work together before?), to include overhand tossing the rifle to Charles Harrelson like they did over the steam pipe in the parking lot,

as seen by Ed Hoffman?

Who else could have been there? JD Tippit? Frank Fiorini/Sturgis? Maybe a limo driver?

Supposedly they had radio communications with someone in Mexico. the outdoor radio antenna still pointed that way in the video "The West Texas Connection."

If the actual 7.65 Mausers used by the 3 snipers were practiced with near Van Horn the Mausers could have originated in California (or elsewhere), gone by the Texas and Pacific Railway to Van Horn for practice in the training camp then on to Dallas,

though possibly Sturgis with his Mauser wasn't at the Van Horn training camp but practiced in Florida with his "baby", the suppressed rifle in the trunk of one of the two cars in the Florida to Texas trip by Sturgis, Lorenz, Oswald, et alia.

Various excerpts from 1990 Austin American Statesman article:

Ricky White says his father’s diary referred to several trips made during this period to a remote area in the foothills near Van Horn, Texas. There, Roscoe White and several others practised shooting at moving targets, Ricky White says. Although he

was younger than 3 years old,Ricky White says he has vague memories of being taken to Van Horn. “My impression was they (others at the Van Horn camp) had been working with my father in the military,” Ricky White says, “because they had known each
other well when this took place.”

...
The diary indicated each of the three riflemen was accompanied by an assistant who disassembled the rifles after the shooting and carried them out of the area, Ricky White says. According to the diary, Ricky White says, his father was to escape with

Oswald by riding to Red Bird Airport in South Dallas in a city police car driven by a friend and fellow officer who did not know what was happening.

...
During a recent interview with the American-Statesman, Shaw said Roscoe White told him at the time that he and his family were “in danger.” White confessed to leading “a double life,” the minister says, “and I knew something was not right,

something strange was going on.” Shaw says that within the last two years he tape recorded a number of counselling sessions with Geneva White about her recollection of what she believed to be her former husband’s role in assassinations. Shaw, who is
very guarded in talking about the case, says Ricky White has only a small portion of the full story, which he says “will knock your eyes out.” Shaw says he met with the Whites several times in 1970-71, but the Kennedy assassination was not mentioned.
In 1971, Roscoe White was fatally injured in an explosive fire at M&M Equipment. Before White died, Shaw talked with him in the hospital.

He recalls White saying he didn’t think the fire was an accident – that he had seen a man running away just before the fire. After the funeral, Geneva White moved her family back to Paris. There, about four years later, the White home was

burglarized and some of Roscoe White’s personal possessions were taken, Ricky White says.

Police captured the two burglars and returned the possessions which included some of Roscoe White’s photos – among them a shot taken by Marina Oswald of her husband Lee Harvey Oswald holding a rifle in the back yard of their Dallas home in 1963.

....
Shaw says Geneva White told him she confronted her husband after an organized crime figure approached her in New Orleans in 1971 and told her to deliver a warning to her husband. According to Shaw, Geneva White was shown nearly a dozen photographs

and identified the man in New Orleans as Charles Nicoletti, formerly the number one hitman with the Sam Giancana Mafia family in Chicago. Nicoletti was executed gangland style in 1977, about a year after Giancana also met the same fate.

Shaw says that, when she returned to Dallas and told her husband of the ominous meeting in New Orleans, “he told her everything.” Shaw says that, as he lay in a hospital dying from burns in 1971 Roscoe White told him that he had been marked for

execution by some of his underworld associates and that he believed the fire had been deliberately started to kill him.

...
from https://maryelizabethbodycare.com/john-f-kennedy/

Seems I read online somewhere Roscoe's Minister Shaw became a millionaire, maybe it was as a televangelist.

"Wim Dankbaar...Did you know that Ricky White, son of Roscoe White another suspect in the assassination, recalled practice shoothing at an automobile near the McVay ranch in Van Horn?"
from https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/8030-van-horn-and-the-west-texas-connection/

The McVay Ranch is now Red Rock Ranch

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Red+Rock+Ranch/@31.0621019,-104.8591805,600m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x86e5e623522a6039:0xc7866d8ebefd21cf!8m2!3d31.0619043!4d-104.8567772!16s%2Fg%2F1pp2vk2p3?hl=en&entry=ttu

Zoom out to see Van Horn and further out to see the region.

Charles Harrelson was arrested just east of Van Horn on I-10 in 1980.

A picture paints a thousand houses...

Based on data online it seems United States Marine Corps Captain William H. McVay was a WW2 divebomber pilot from Van Horn Texas. For a while he lived in California while being stationed at Corvallis, Oregon, maybe at the Marine Corps Auxiliary Airfield
Corvallis, until he was shipped overseas for duty, where he was awarded the Air Medal. He was associated with McVay ranch.

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On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 8:52:35 PM UTC-5, Sam McClung wrote:

On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 2:54:47 PM UTC-5, Sam McClung wrote:

On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 8:59:03 PM UTC-5, Sam McClung wrote:

On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 11:23:05 AM UTC-5, Sam McClung wrote:

Each 500 miles from Dallas. One easterly, one westerly. One near New Orleans which is known of. This may be where the patsy Oswald was trained by Ricardo "Monkey" Morales.

Another training camp may have been in the foothills right outside Van Horn Texas, as related by Ricky White and other info. Some of the topography there with all the hills and canyons and arroyos etc. is probably similar to the topography of

Dealey Plaza.

Seems Ricky mentioned in the summer of 1963 he (when 3 years old supposedly) and his dad were there near Van Horn with others Roscoe may have served in the military with. So the others were at least veterans if not still on active duty (including

for an agency). Who were these others? They were shooting at moving targets or a car or both maybe

Charles Harrelson was arrested on I-10 just east of Van Horn in 1980. He had killed Federal Judge John H. Woods, Jr. in San Antonio Texas in 1979. Harrelson thought there was an electronic bug in the Corvette (supposedly his girlfriend's) he was

driving. He parked it over a ditch, tried to shoot the muffler but hit the tire instead. So much for his shooting capabilities, maybe being high on cocaine affected his shooting. Witnesses called the cops who showed up soon and in the ensuing standoff
that lasted for hours Harrelson admitted involvement in the JFK assassination as well as killing Judge Woods, if I recall correctly. Note the proximity of Harrelson to Van Horn, a remote area of Texas. Was Harrelson there when Roscoe and others were
there per Ricky?

Harrelson had three brothers: Leonard Humphrey Harrelson; Claude Elegan Harrelson; and Edward Leon Harrelson, another brother who died very young.

Charles, Leonard, and Claude all served in the US Navy. Leonard was a hypnotist and world renowned polygrapher, with many connections in the FBI, etc. He was 13 years older than Charles

Charles Harrelson may have fathered Mathew McConaughey.

As a side note, per Chauncey Holt, Harrelson was pointed out to Holt as being a part owner of Masen's Gun Shop in Dallas. Also per Holt Masen's Gun Shop got an order in the summer of 1963 from the CIA shop Holt worked for in California for one of

every model of Manlicher Carcano.

Harrelson is not a real common name. There was a J. Barry Harrelson who worked for the CIA. Related?

Jean Rene Souetre may have been at the Van Horn training camp, practicing with his crew (did Souetre and Roscoe work together before?), to include overhand tossing the rifle to Charles Harrelson like they did over the steam pipe in the parking

lot, as seen by Ed Hoffman?

Who else could have been there? JD Tippit? Frank Fiorini/Sturgis? Maybe a limo driver?

Supposedly they had radio communications with someone in Mexico. the outdoor radio antenna still pointed that way in the video "The West Texas Connection."

If the actual 7.65 Mausers used by the 3 snipers were practiced with near Van Horn the Mausers could have originated in California (or elsewhere), gone by the Texas and Pacific Railway to Van Horn for practice in the training camp then on to

Dallas, though possibly Sturgis with his Mauser wasn't at the Van Horn training camp but practiced in Florida with his "baby", the suppressed rifle in the trunk of one of the two cars in the Florida to Texas trip by Sturgis, Lorenz, Oswald, et alia.

Various excerpts from 1990 Austin American Statesman article:

Ricky White says his father’s diary referred to several trips made during this period to a remote area in the foothills near Van Horn, Texas. There, Roscoe White and several others practised shooting at moving targets, Ricky White says. Although

he was younger than 3 years old,Ricky White says he has vague memories of being taken to Van Horn. “My impression was they (others at the Van Horn camp) had been working with my father in the military,” Ricky White says, “because they had known
each other well when this took place.”

...
The diary indicated each of the three riflemen was accompanied by an assistant who disassembled the rifles after the shooting and carried them out of the area, Ricky White says. According to the diary, Ricky White says, his father was to escape

with Oswald by riding to Red Bird Airport in South Dallas in a city police car driven by a friend and fellow officer who did not know what was happening.

...
During a recent interview with the American-Statesman, Shaw said Roscoe White told him at the time that he and his family were “in danger.” White confessed to leading “a double life,” the minister says, “and I knew something was not right,

something strange was going on.” Shaw says that within the last two years he tape recorded a number of counselling sessions with Geneva White about her recollection of what she believed to be her former husband’s role in assassinations. Shaw, who is
very guarded in talking about the case, says Ricky White has only a small portion of the full story, which he says “will knock your eyes out.” Shaw says he met with the Whites several times in 1970-71, but the Kennedy assassination was not mentioned.
In 1971, Roscoe White was fatally injured in an explosive fire at M&M Equipment. Before White died, Shaw talked with him in the hospital.

He recalls White saying he didn’t think the fire was an accident – that he had seen a man running away just before the fire. After the funeral, Geneva White moved her family back to Paris. There, about four years later, the White home was

burglarized and some of Roscoe White’s personal possessions were taken, Ricky White says.

Police captured the two burglars and returned the possessions which included some of Roscoe White’s photos – among them a shot taken by Marina Oswald of her husband Lee Harvey Oswald holding a rifle in the back yard of their Dallas home in 1963.

....
Shaw says Geneva White told him she confronted her husband after an organized crime figure approached her in New Orleans in 1971 and told her to deliver a warning to her husband. According to Shaw, Geneva White was shown nearly a dozen photographs

and identified the man in New Orleans as Charles Nicoletti, formerly the number one hitman with the Sam Giancana Mafia family in Chicago. Nicoletti was executed gangland style in 1977, about a year after Giancana also met the same fate.

Shaw says that, when she returned to Dallas and told her husband of the ominous meeting in New Orleans, “he told her everything.” Shaw says that, as he lay in a hospital dying from burns in 1971 Roscoe White told him that he had been marked for

execution by some of his underworld associates and that he believed the fire had been deliberately started to kill him.

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from https://maryelizabethbodycare.com/john-f-kennedy/

Seems I read online somewhere Roscoe's Minister Shaw became a millionaire, maybe it was as a televangelist.

"Wim Dankbaar...Did you know that Ricky White, son of Roscoe White another suspect in the assassination, recalled practice shoothing at an automobile near the McVay ranch in Van Horn?"
from https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/8030-van-horn-and-the-west-texas-connection/

The McVay Ranch is now Red Rock Ranch

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Red+Rock+Ranch/@31.0621019,-104.8591805,600m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x86e5e623522a6039:0xc7866d8ebefd21cf!8m2!3d31.0619043!4d-104.8567772!16s%2Fg%2F1pp2vk2p3?hl=en&entry=ttu

Zoom out to see Van Horn and further out to see the region.

Charles Harrelson was arrested just east of Van Horn on I-10 in 1980.

A picture paints a thousand houses...

Based on data online it seems United States Marine Corps Captain William H. McVay was a WW2 divebomber pilot from Van Horn Texas. For a while he lived in California while being stationed at Corvallis, Oregon, maybe at the Marine Corps Auxiliary

Airfield Corvallis, until he was shipped overseas for duty, where he was awarded the Air Medal. He was associated with McVay ranch.

A curved road https://www.google.com/maps/place/Dealey+Plaza/@32.7789018,-96.8090235,19z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x864e9915d508f639:0xcfa47bf25b709fe0!8m2!3d32.7788184!4d-96.8082993!16zL20vMDF2cGpi?entry=ttu

Another curved road https://www.google.com/maps/search/van+horn+texas+railroad/@31.0626115,-104.852993,150m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu

Van Horn in 1928
https://www.shorpy.com/node/911?size=_original#caption
Population in 1960 was about 2,000

"My marker should read, He did his best for Z.P.G. zero population growth." Note attributed to Charles Harrelson, found at scene of stand off with cops on I-10 just east of Van Horn in 1980.

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On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 11:23:05 AM UTC-5, Sam McClung wrote:

Each 500 miles from Dallas. One easterly, one westerly. One near New Orleans which is known of. This may be where the patsy Oswald was trained by Ricardo "Monkey" Morales.

Another training camp may have been in the foothills right outside Van Horn Texas, as related by Ricky White and other info. Some of the topography there with all the hills and canyons and arroyos etc. is probably similar to the topography of Dealey

Plaza.

Seems Ricky mentioned in the summer of 1963 he (when 3 years old supposedly) and his dad were there near Van Horn with others Roscoe may have served in the military with. So the others were at least veterans if not still on active duty (including for

an agency). Who were these others? They were shooting at moving targets or a car or both maybe

Charles Harrelson was arrested on I-10 just east of Van Horn in 1980. He had killed Federal Judge John H. Woods, Jr. in San Antonio Texas in 1979. Harrelson thought there was an electronic bug in the Corvette (supposedly his girlfriend's) he was

driving. He parked it over a ditch, tried to shoot the muffler but hit the tire instead. So much for his shooting capabilities, maybe being high on cocaine affected his shooting. Witnesses called the cops who showed up soon and in the ensuing standoff
that lasted for hours Harrelson admitted involvement in the JFK assassination as well as killing Judge Woods, if I recall correctly. Note the proximity of Harrelson to Van Horn, a remote area of Texas. Was Harrelson there when Roscoe and others were
there per Ricky?

Harrelson had three brothers: Leonard Humphrey Harrelson; Claude Elegan Harrelson; and Edward Leon Harrelson, another brother who died very young.

Charles, Leonard, and Claude all served in the US Navy.

Charles worked with Sonar in the Navy.


Leonard was a hypnotist and world renowned polygrapher, with many connections in the FBI, etc. He was 13 years older than Charles

Charles Harrelson may have fathered Mathew McConaughey.

As a side note, per Chauncey Holt, Harrelson was pointed out to Holt as being a part owner of Masen's Gun Shop in Dallas. Also per Holt Masen's Gun Shop got an order in the summer of 1963 from the CIA shop Holt worked for in California for one of every

model of Manlicher Carcano.

Harrelson is not a real common name. There was a J. Barry Harrelson who worked for the CIA. Related?

Jean Rene Souetre may have been at the Van Horn training camp, practicing with his crew (did Souetre and Roscoe work together before?), to include overhand tossing the rifle to Charles Harrelson like they did over the steam pipe in the parking lot, as

seen by Ed Hoffman?

Who else could have been there? JD Tippit? Frank Fiorini/Sturgis? Maybe a limo driver?

Supposedly they had radio communications with someone in Mexico. the outdoor radio antenna still pointed that way in the video "The West Texas Connection."

If the actual 7.65 Mausers used by the 3 snipers were practiced with near Van Horn the Mausers could have originated in California (or elsewhere), gone by the Texas and Pacific Railway to Van Horn for practice in the training camp then on to Dallas,

though possibly Sturgis with his Mauser wasn't at the Van Horn training camp but practiced in Florida with his "baby", the suppressed rifle in the trunk of one of the two cars in the Florida to Texas trip by Sturgis, Lorenz, Oswald, et alia.

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