Von Pein has gone after the Prayer Man people on the Education Forum by means of my evidence...Only he fails to credit me as the source...used as reference to Oswald being Prayer Man (as Kamp does)...Von Pein has directly stolen this and posted it uncredited on James Gordon's Education Forum...
I am the person who discovered that the notes from the 3pm Interrogation all started at the Lunch Room Encounter 90 seconds after the shots, so therefore any reference to Oswald going outside was several minutes after the shots and therefore cannot be
A few years ago Gordon teamed up with Sandy Larsen and banned Von Pein for stealing quotes from the Education Forum and posting them on his own forum...What Gordon has done here is much worse because the so-called ethics that they banned Von Pein forapply much more to myself since Gordon has abused his power and helped the Prayer Man people destroy me as a researcher by the crude tool of censorship...I see the pro-Prayer Man Mormon moderator Sandy Larsen has stayed quiet in all this...Not only did
Von Pein has gone after the Prayer Man people on the Education Forum by means of my evidence...Only he fails to credit me as the source...used as reference to Oswald being Prayer Man (as Kamp does)...Von Pein has directly stolen this and posted it uncredited on James Gordon's Education Forum...
I am the person who discovered that the notes from the 3pm Interrogation all started at the Lunch Room Encounter 90 seconds after the shots, so therefore any reference to Oswald going outside was several minutes after the shots and therefore cannot be
A few years ago Gordon teamed up with Sandy Larsen and banned Von Pein for stealing quotes from the Education Forum and posting them on his own forum...What Gordon has done here is much worse because the so-called ethics that they banned Von Pein forapply much more to myself since Gordon has abused his power and helped the Prayer Man people destroy me as a researcher by the crude tool of censorship...I see the pro-Prayer Man Mormon moderator Sandy Larsen has stayed quiet in all this...Not only did
WTF?? I have "stolen" nothing from Mr. Doyle.
WTF?? I have "stolen" nothing from Mr. Doyle. Why he thinks I've been "stealing" from him is anybody's guess.
On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 3:30:20 AM UTC+11, Brian Doyle wrote:
Greg ignores Wanda Daniel telling me that Sarah heard Oswald say that he did not intend to go down to watch the motorcade but intended to go back in to the "Break Room" instead..
WTF?? I have "stolen" nothing from Mr. Doyle. Why he thinks I've been "stealing" from him is anybody's guess.
I merely did what anybody else could also easily do (and no doubt *have* done)---I've utilized the wording and the precise chronology of Bookhout's 11/22 (solo) report
And none of that has anything at all to do with anything that Brian Doyle has posted over the years. The "chronology" aspect of the Bookhout report is certainly not anything I heard previously from Doyle. I merely used my reading glasses and somecommon sense to bash the CTers at the EF Forum over the head with those "chronology" facts.
An apology from Mr. Doyle is definitely in order here.
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2023/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1369.html
On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 11:45:52 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
The witness claimed Stanton told her that Oswald said he came down for a soda and that he was going back to "the room where he was working".
You can hear it at the 2:30 mark of this recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYpjGBg5cDU
Doyle's been told this several times and yet he keeps posting that she said "break room".
She said no such thing.
And as long as I see that he keeps lying about it, I'll keep posting the link to the interview.
On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 3:30:20 AM UTC+11, Brian Doyle wrote:be used as reference to Oswald being Prayer Man (as Kamp does)...Von Pein has directly stolen this and posted it uncredited on James Gordon's Education Forum...
Von Pein has gone after the Prayer Man people on the Education Forum by means of my evidence...Only he fails to credit me as the source...
I am the person who discovered that the notes from the 3pm Interrogation all started at the Lunch Room Encounter 90 seconds after the shots, so therefore any reference to Oswald going outside was several minutes after the shots and therefore cannot
apply much more to myself since Gordon has abused his power and helped the Prayer Man people destroy me as a researcher by the crude tool of censorship...I see the pro-Prayer Man Mormon moderator Sandy Larsen has stayed quiet in all this...Not only didA few years ago Gordon teamed up with Sandy Larsen and banned Von Pein for stealing quotes from the Education Forum and posting them on his own forum...What Gordon has done here is much worse because the so-called ethics that they banned Von Pein for
No Brian. You're one of the many misinterpreting what Oswald said. That problem started with the interrogators, either deliberately confusing two separate incidents, or confusing themselves and conflating two separate incidents.
Incident one: Oswald eats lunch on 1st floor after grabbing a coke from the 2nd floor, and then goes out to watch the parade but quickly re-enters the building after seeing... not much. No Truly and cop encounter anywhere.
Incident two: After everyone rushed back in (and recalling that Campbell told a reporter he saw Oswald inside the 1st floor at that time), Oswald wanted to see what had happened to cause the stampede.get to you later."
From Holmes' testimony, quoting Oswald as to what happened in this incident
"I got to the front door, and [the officer] started to ask me some questions, and my superintendent of the place stepped up and told the officers that I am one of the employees of the building, so he told me to step aside for a little bit and we will
The superintendent of course was Truly, who would report him as missing as soon as he let him go. In short - the famous Truly line "he is alright, he works here" was said to Kaminsky at the front door, not to Baker on the 2nd floor. That was totallymade up to cover up what really happened.
Here is the report explaining that Truly and Kaminsky were stationed at the door doing exactly what Oswald said they were doing - vetting people before allowing them to leave.
Go to the bottom of this page and onto the following page https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=217812#relPageId=435
Unless Oswald left after being stopped by those two, how did he know they were at front door vetting those leaving?
You can't explain it any better than your Lone Nut counterparts.
On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 11:17:48 PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
Nutter liar take credit for my research...Gordon is a criminal so he has no care about how his banning has robbed me of my presence in the community and now, it seems, my research too...My discovery that the notes from the 3pm Interrogation all start atWTF?? I have "stolen" nothing from Mr. Doyle. Why he thinks I've been "stealing" from him is anybody's guess.
Von Pein is, of course, lying here...Gilbride confirmed on Deep Politics that I was the source for the notes from the 3pm Interrogation all starting at the Lunch Room Encounter...Seeing how I suffer so much from censorship I am not about to let a Lone
Liars like Parker and Von Pein wear their deception like identifiable clothing...Von Pein is lying and he is directly stealing my research and posting it on the Education Forum without credit...However, he is not stealing all of it...Von Pein is notstealing the part where I used the fact that the notes start at the Lunch Room Encounter to show that Oswald told the 3pm Interrogation he was in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room at the time of the assassination...Von Pein omits that part...Von Pein omits the
On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 10:56:24 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
You're an absolute lunatic. I didn't "steal" anything from you, you idiot. I did my own research. I don't need yours. If you came to some of the same conclusions I did....so what?
You're an absolute lunatic. I didn't "steal" anything from you, you idiot. I did my own research. I don't need yours. If you came to some of the same conclusions I did....so what?
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 22:49:09 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:
You're an absolute lunatic. I didn't "steal" anything from you, you idiot. I did my own research. I don't need yours. If you came to some of the same conclusions I did....so what?What does your "reseach" say about the location of the occipital? Is
it in the back of the head?
On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 1:49:10 AM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 10:56:24 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
me and drawing attention to some of my more damning evidence that proves a conspiracy...You don't want to draw attention to me...You're an absolute lunatic. I didn't "steal" anything from you, you idiot. I did my own research. I don't need yours. If you came to some of the same conclusions I did....so what?You're lying...You stole it and you didn't credit it...
You also left off the most important part about how it proved Oswald was in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room...
The reason you don't mention my research, even though it disproves some of the more wayward CT fools and their crazy theories (which should work for you and therefore be mentioned by you as good examples) is because you are trying to avoid recognizing
The real crime here David isn't your fake sincerity or defense of government murder through false spin...The real crime is how so-called CT-ers let you get away with stealing my research but then distorting it to fit you Lone Nutter denial...Myevidence that you stole came to the conclusion that the 3pm Interrogation excised Oswald telling them he was in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the shots...That's why all 3 start at the Lunch Room Encounter...You and the Education Forum are guilty of not
May all of you be damned...
Von Pein has gone after the Prayer Man people on the Education Forum by means of my evidence...Only he fails to credit me as the source...
WTF?? I have "stolen" nothing from Mr. Doyle. Why he thinks I've been "stealing" from him is anybody's guess.referring to a time that was AFTER the assassination and AFTER the Baker/Oswald encounter in the 2nd-Floor lunchroom. (And I think the "new" Hosty "P. Parade" note is referring to that very same timeline of events as well, as I've also stated.)
I merely did what anybody else could also easily do (and no doubt *have* done)---I've utilized the wording and the precise chronology of Bookhout's 11/22 (solo) report to emphasize to CTers that the "out with Bill Shelley in front" stuff obviously is
And none of that has anything at all to do with anything that Brian Doyle has posted over the years. The "chronology" aspect of the Bookhout report is certainly not anything I heard previously from Doyle. I merely used my reading glasses and somecommon sense to bash the CTers at the EF Forum over the head with those "chronology" facts.
An apology from Mr. Doyle is definitely in order here.
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2023/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1369.html
Poor Oswald, goes to two lunchrooms at lunchtime and can`t buy an alibi witness.
On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:10:44 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 1:49:10 AM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
You're a delusional prick, Doyle. You think anybody who reads (and correctly interprets) the Hosty/Bookhout/Fritz notes is "stealing" from you. (Right?)
What a paranoid nutcase you've become. Please go away. And stop accusing people of "stealing" from you, when they've done no such thing.
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 11:15:34 AM UTC+11, Bud wrote:the coke was purchased post-assassination. Too bad others don't place her there on her own, but returning with a bunch of others from the street.
Poor Oswald, goes to two lunchrooms at lunchtime and can`t buy an alibi witness.That's like saying you bought two lottery tickets from the mob and they both won prizes, so the lottery was redrawn because the mob can't afford accidental winners.
First ticket. Oswald bought coke to have with lunch. Was seen and spoken to by Mrs Reid. Mrs Reid could confirm lunchtime coke purchase. But Mrs. Reid is secretary to the boss man and inside man for the plotters, Roy Sansom Truly. She is prepped to say
Second ticket. Seeing Jarman and Norman re-enter building at about 12:25. His words were changed to claim he said he was eating with them, which they denied. But Norman and Jarman previously said that they did eat prior to going up. Norman testifiedthat someone else was in the domino room at that time, but gosh darn, he just could not recall who it was. In any case, he was Black and and his testimony was for his white oppressors. And eating in the same room as them (if he did) is not the same as
Oswald had two winning tickets. Both were turned into liabilities by his criminal captors.
On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 9:38:06 PM UTC-4, Greg Parker wrote:say the coke was purchased post-assassination. Too bad others don't place her there on her own, but returning with a bunch of others from the street.
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 11:15:34 AM UTC+11, Bud wrote:
Poor Oswald, goes to two lunchrooms at lunchtime and can`t buy an alibi witness.That's like saying you bought two lottery tickets from the mob and they both won prizes, so the lottery was redrawn because the mob can't afford accidental winners.
First ticket. Oswald bought coke to have with lunch. Was seen and spoken to by Mrs Reid. Mrs Reid could confirm lunchtime coke purchase. But Mrs. Reid is secretary to the boss man and inside man for the plotters, Roy Sansom Truly. She is prepped to
that someone else was in the domino room at that time, but gosh darn, he just could not recall who it was. In any case, he was Black and and his testimony was for his white oppressors. And eating in the same room as them (if he did) is not the same asSecond ticket. Seeing Jarman and Norman re-enter building at about 12:25. His words were changed to claim he said he was eating with them, which they denied. But Norman and Jarman previously said that they did eat prior to going up. Norman testified
Oswald had two winning tickets. Both were turned into liabilities by his criminal captors.<snicker> I get it, he had *plenty* of alibi witnesses, you just can`t produce any because they were "gotten to".
What a stupid hobby.
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 2:30:19 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:say the coke was purchased post-assassination. Too bad others don't place her there on her own, but returning with a bunch of others from the street.
On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 9:38:06 PM UTC-4, Greg Parker wrote:
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 11:15:34 AM UTC+11, Bud wrote:
Poor Oswald, goes to two lunchrooms at lunchtime and can`t buy an alibi witness.That's like saying you bought two lottery tickets from the mob and they both won prizes, so the lottery was redrawn because the mob can't afford accidental winners.
First ticket. Oswald bought coke to have with lunch. Was seen and spoken to by Mrs Reid. Mrs Reid could confirm lunchtime coke purchase. But Mrs. Reid is secretary to the boss man and inside man for the plotters, Roy Sansom Truly. She is prepped to
testified that someone else was in the domino room at that time, but gosh darn, he just could not recall who it was. In any case, he was Black and and his testimony was for his white oppressors. And eating in the same room as them (if he did) is not theSecond ticket. Seeing Jarman and Norman re-enter building at about 12:25. His words were changed to claim he said he was eating with them, which they denied. But Norman and Jarman previously said that they did eat prior to going up. Norman
Oswald had two winning tickets. Both were turned into liabilities by his criminal captors.<snicker> I get it, he had *plenty* of alibi witnesses, you just can`t produce any because they were "gotten to".
What a stupid hobby.It's amazing the things these assclowns will dream up rather that accept the obvious and straight
forward explanation that Oswald shot three guys that day and two of them died.
It is, indeed, a stupid hobby.
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 3:32:59 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:to say the coke was purchased post-assassination. Too bad others don't place her there on her own, but returning with a bunch of others from the street.
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 2:30:19 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 9:38:06 PM UTC-4, Greg Parker wrote:
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 11:15:34 AM UTC+11, Bud wrote:
Poor Oswald, goes to two lunchrooms at lunchtime and can`t buy an alibi witness.That's like saying you bought two lottery tickets from the mob and they both won prizes, so the lottery was redrawn because the mob can't afford accidental winners.
First ticket. Oswald bought coke to have with lunch. Was seen and spoken to by Mrs Reid. Mrs Reid could confirm lunchtime coke purchase. But Mrs. Reid is secretary to the boss man and inside man for the plotters, Roy Sansom Truly. She is prepped
testified that someone else was in the domino room at that time, but gosh darn, he just could not recall who it was. In any case, he was Black and and his testimony was for his white oppressors. And eating in the same room as them (if he did) is not theSecond ticket. Seeing Jarman and Norman re-enter building at about 12:25. His words were changed to claim he said he was eating with them, which they denied. But Norman and Jarman previously said that they did eat prior to going up. Norman
trustworthy. Silly game playing.Oswald had two winning tickets. Both were turned into liabilities by his criminal captors.<snicker> I get it, he had *plenty* of alibi witnesses, you just can`t produce any because they were "gotten to".
They lower the bar to the floor for themselves, they don`t need alibi witnesses, imagining they existed is good enough. And to do this they give the conspiracy the magical ability to make anyone say anything at any time, and stick to it for life.What a stupid hobby.It's amazing the things these assclowns will dream up rather that accept the obvious and straight
forward explanation that Oswald shot three guys that day and two of them died.
Reid worked for Truly, so she can`t be trusted. Norman and Jarman are black, so they can`t be trusted. So-and-so is a cop, so they can`t be trusted, unless they provide something a conspiracy hobbyist can use in their ideas, then they become
It is, indeed, a stupid hobby.Yes.
It's amazing the things these assclowns ...
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 3:32:59 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:to say the coke was purchased post-assassination. Too bad others don't place her there on her own, but returning with a bunch of others from the street.
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 2:30:19 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 9:38:06 PM UTC-4, Greg Parker wrote:
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 11:15:34 AM UTC+11, Bud wrote:
Poor Oswald, goes to two lunchrooms at lunchtime and can`t buy an alibi witness.That's like saying you bought two lottery tickets from the mob and they both won prizes, so the lottery was redrawn because the mob can't afford accidental winners.
First ticket. Oswald bought coke to have with lunch. Was seen and spoken to by Mrs Reid. Mrs Reid could confirm lunchtime coke purchase. But Mrs. Reid is secretary to the boss man and inside man for the plotters, Roy Sansom Truly. She is prepped
testified that someone else was in the domino room at that time, but gosh darn, he just could not recall who it was. In any case, he was Black and and his testimony was for his white oppressors. And eating in the same room as them (if he did) is not theSecond ticket. Seeing Jarman and Norman re-enter building at about 12:25. His words were changed to claim he said he was eating with them, which they denied. But Norman and Jarman previously said that they did eat prior to going up. Norman
trustworthy. Silly game playing.Oswald had two winning tickets. Both were turned into liabilities by his criminal captors.<snicker> I get it, he had *plenty* of alibi witnesses, you just can`t produce any because they were "gotten to".
They lower the bar to the floor for themselves, they don`t need alibi witnesses, imagining they existed is good enough. And to do this they give the conspiracy the magical ability to make anyone say anything at any time, and stick to it for life.What a stupid hobby.It's amazing the things these assclowns will dream up rather that accept the obvious and straight
forward explanation that Oswald shot three guys that day and two of them died.
Reid worked for Truly, so she can`t be trusted. Norman and Jarman are black, so they can`t be trusted. So-and-so is a cop, so they can`t be trusted, unless they provide something a conspiracy hobbyist can use in their ideas, then they become
Calling me a "hobbyist" (as opposed to a professional propagandist like Bugliosi?) doesn't put Mrs. Reid up on the 2nd floor alone with Oswald.It is, indeed, a stupid hobby.Yes.
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 7:04:16 AM UTC+11, Bud wrote:prepped to say the coke was purchased post-assassination. Too bad others don't place her there on her own, but returning with a bunch of others from the street.
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 3:32:59 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 2:30:19 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 9:38:06 PM UTC-4, Greg Parker wrote:
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 11:15:34 AM UTC+11, Bud wrote:
Poor Oswald, goes to two lunchrooms at lunchtime and can`t buy an alibi witness.That's like saying you bought two lottery tickets from the mob and they both won prizes, so the lottery was redrawn because the mob can't afford accidental winners.
First ticket. Oswald bought coke to have with lunch. Was seen and spoken to by Mrs Reid. Mrs Reid could confirm lunchtime coke purchase. But Mrs. Reid is secretary to the boss man and inside man for the plotters, Roy Sansom Truly. She is
testified that someone else was in the domino room at that time, but gosh darn, he just could not recall who it was. In any case, he was Black and and his testimony was for his white oppressors. And eating in the same room as them (if he did) is not theSecond ticket. Seeing Jarman and Norman re-enter building at about 12:25. His words were changed to claim he said he was eating with them, which they denied. But Norman and Jarman previously said that they did eat prior to going up. Norman
trustworthy. Silly game playing.Oswald had two winning tickets. Both were turned into liabilities by his criminal captors.<snicker> I get it, he had *plenty* of alibi witnesses, you just can`t produce any because they were "gotten to".
They lower the bar to the floor for themselves, they don`t need alibi witnesses, imagining they existed is good enough. And to do this they give the conspiracy the magical ability to make anyone say anything at any time, and stick to it for life.What a stupid hobby.It's amazing the things these assclowns will dream up rather that accept the obvious and straight
forward explanation that Oswald shot three guys that day and two of them died.
Reid worked for Truly, so she can`t be trusted. Norman and Jarman are black, so they can`t be trusted. So-and-so is a cop, so they can`t be trusted, unless they provide something a conspiracy hobbyist can use in their ideas, then they become
to have it and so I was busy with the phone.Calling me a "hobbyist" (as opposed to a professional propagandist like Bugliosi?) doesn't put Mrs. Reid up on the 2nd floor alone with Oswald.It is, indeed, a stupid hobby.Yes.
Mr. BELIN. All right. Do you know about what time it was that you left the lunchroom, was it 12, 12:15?
Mrs. REID. I think around 12:30 somewhere along in there.
Mr. BELIN. All right. When you left the lunchroom, did you leave with the other girls?
Mrs. REID. No; I didn't. The younger girls had gone and I left alone.
Mr. BELIN. Were you the last person in the lunchroom?
Mrs. REID. No; I could not say that because I don't remember that part of it because I was going out of the building by myself, I wasn't even, you know, connected with anyone at all.
Mr. BELIN. Were there any men in the lunchroom when you left there?
Mrs. REID. I can't, I don't, remember that.
That's some witness. Claims she ate lunch with all the girls who work under her and left alone to go and watch the parade at 12:30. You are blaming me for her lies? They came from HER not me.
Then post-assassination, she goes back to her office alone and encounters Oswald without any others witnessing it.
Sure. Seems plausible. Not.
Mr. BALL. Did you see Mrs. Reid come back in?
Miss HINE. Yes, sir; I think I felt sure that I did. I thought that there were five or six that came in together. I thought she was one of those.
Mr. BALL. Mrs. Reid told us she came in alone and when she came in she didn't see anybody there.
Miss HINE. Well, it could be that she did, sir. I was talking on the phones and then came the policemen and then came the press. Everybody was wanting an outside line and then our vice president came in and he said "The next one that was clear, I have
Mr. BALL. From the time you walked into the room you became immediately busy with the phone?
Miss HINE. Yes, sir; sure was.
Mr. BALL. Did you see Oswald come in?
Miss HINE. My back would have been to the door he was supposed to have come in at.
Mr. BALL. Were you facing the door he is supposed to have left by?
Miss HINE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Do you recall seeing him?
Miss HINE. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Do you have any definite recollection of Mrs. Reid coming in?
Miss HINE. No, sir; I only saw four or five people that came by and they all came and were all talking about how terrible it was.
Mr. BALL. Do you remember their names?
Miss HINE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Who were they?
Miss HINE. Mr. Williams, Mr. Molina (spelling), Miss Martha Reid, Mrs. Reid, Mrs. Sarah Stanton, and Mr. Campbell; that's all I recall, sir.
Mrs. Reid came back in with a bunch of others. Hine never saw Oswald even though she was facing the door he supposedly exited. She never heard any conversion between Oswald and Reid.
Roy Sansom Truly and Robert Reid were rewarded for Truly and Reid's wife's efforts with a grand tour of FBI HQ when they went to Washington to give testimony. I doubt Geneva Hine got such an offer ;-)
Now please, I don't mind, Call me all the names you want. Fair play. I call you a bunch of things as well. The difference is I still back up what I say. I rebut using actual evidence.
Why don't you boys give it a try?
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 8:04:50 PM UTC-4, Greg Parker wrote:prepped to say the coke was purchased post-assassination. Too bad others don't place her there on her own, but returning with a bunch of others from the street.
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 7:04:16 AM UTC+11, Bud wrote:
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 3:32:59 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 2:30:19 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 9:38:06 PM UTC-4, Greg Parker wrote:
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 11:15:34 AM UTC+11, Bud wrote:
Poor Oswald, goes to two lunchrooms at lunchtime and can`t buy an alibi witness.That's like saying you bought two lottery tickets from the mob and they both won prizes, so the lottery was redrawn because the mob can't afford accidental winners.
First ticket. Oswald bought coke to have with lunch. Was seen and spoken to by Mrs Reid. Mrs Reid could confirm lunchtime coke purchase. But Mrs. Reid is secretary to the boss man and inside man for the plotters, Roy Sansom Truly. She is
testified that someone else was in the domino room at that time, but gosh darn, he just could not recall who it was. In any case, he was Black and and his testimony was for his white oppressors. And eating in the same room as them (if he did) is not theSecond ticket. Seeing Jarman and Norman re-enter building at about 12:25. His words were changed to claim he said he was eating with them, which they denied. But Norman and Jarman previously said that they did eat prior to going up. Norman
trustworthy. Silly game playing.Oswald had two winning tickets. Both were turned into liabilities by his criminal captors.<snicker> I get it, he had *plenty* of alibi witnesses, you just can`t produce any because they were "gotten to".
They lower the bar to the floor for themselves, they don`t need alibi witnesses, imagining they existed is good enough. And to do this they give the conspiracy the magical ability to make anyone say anything at any time, and stick to it for life.What a stupid hobby.It's amazing the things these assclowns will dream up rather that accept the obvious and straight
forward explanation that Oswald shot three guys that day and two of them died.
Reid worked for Truly, so she can`t be trusted. Norman and Jarman are black, so they can`t be trusted. So-and-so is a cop, so they can`t be trusted, unless they provide something a conspiracy hobbyist can use in their ideas, then they become
have to have it and so I was busy with the phone.Calling me a "hobbyist" (as opposed to a professional propagandist like Bugliosi?) doesn't put Mrs. Reid up on the 2nd floor alone with Oswald.It is, indeed, a stupid hobby.Yes.
Mr. BELIN. All right. Do you know about what time it was that you left the lunchroom, was it 12, 12:15?
Mrs. REID. I think around 12:30 somewhere along in there.
Mr. BELIN. All right. When you left the lunchroom, did you leave with the other girls?
Mrs. REID. No; I didn't. The younger girls had gone and I left alone.
Mr. BELIN. Were you the last person in the lunchroom?
Mrs. REID. No; I could not say that because I don't remember that part of it because I was going out of the building by myself, I wasn't even, you know, connected with anyone at all.
Mr. BELIN. Were there any men in the lunchroom when you left there?
Mrs. REID. I can't, I don't, remember that.
That's some witness. Claims she ate lunch with all the girls who work under her and left alone to go and watch the parade at 12:30. You are blaming me for her lies? They came from HER not me.
Then post-assassination, she goes back to her office alone and encounters Oswald without any others witnessing it.
Sure. Seems plausible. Not.
Mr. BALL. Did you see Mrs. Reid come back in?
Miss HINE. Yes, sir; I think I felt sure that I did. I thought that there were five or six that came in together. I thought she was one of those.
Mr. BALL. Mrs. Reid told us she came in alone and when she came in she didn't see anybody there.
Miss HINE. Well, it could be that she did, sir. I was talking on the phones and then came the policemen and then came the press. Everybody was wanting an outside line and then our vice president came in and he said "The next one that was clear, I
Mr. BALL. From the time you walked into the room you became immediately busy with the phone?
Miss HINE. Yes, sir; sure was.
Mr. BALL. Did you see Oswald come in?
Miss HINE. My back would have been to the door he was supposed to have come in at.
Mr. BALL. Were you facing the door he is supposed to have left by?
Miss HINE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Do you recall seeing him?
Miss HINE. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Do you have any definite recollection of Mrs. Reid coming in? Miss HINE. No, sir; I only saw four or five people that came by and they all came and were all talking about how terrible it was.
Mr. BALL. Do you remember their names?
Miss HINE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Who were they?
Miss HINE. Mr. Williams, Mr. Molina (spelling), Miss Martha Reid, Mrs. Reid, Mrs. Sarah Stanton, and Mr. Campbell; that's all I recall, sir.
Mrs. Reid came back in with a bunch of others. Hine never saw Oswald even though she was facing the door he supposedly exited. She never heard any conversion between Oswald and Reid.
Roy Sansom Truly and Robert Reid were rewarded for Truly and Reid's wife's efforts with a grand tour of FBI HQ when they went to Washington to give testimony. I doubt Geneva Hine got such an offer ;-)
Now please, I don't mind, Call me all the names you want. Fair play. I call you a bunch of things as well. The difference is I still back up what I say. I rebut using actual evidence.
Do you ever try applying reason to it? Reid said she went to lunch at twelve, and ate hurriedly. You think it takes a half hour to scarf down a lunch?
but you are using it to play silly games.
Why don't you boys give it a try?Playing with blocks is for children.
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 11:29:58 AM UTC+11, Bud wrote:
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 8:04:50 PM UTC-4, Greg Parker wrote:
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 7:04:16 AM UTC+11, Bud wrote:
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 3:32:59 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
Greg Parker is an asshole and evidence-fucker whose job it is to screw up the conspiracy evidence with crazy scenarios and interpretations of evidence...
...You can't do that with official statements in this case because it has been so corrupted and falsified that you need to apply very high skilled detective-like scrutiny to the evidence...
I personally think Geneva Hine lied and she saw both Oswalds...
I think she was gotten to...
there were two Oswalds who left the Depository...One by Bus/Taxi and the other by Station Wagon...
The research community needs the best minds on this delicate evidence...
The real evidence has Harvey either going down the NW stairs and to the Lobby or through the 2nd Floor hallway and down the front stairs to the Lobby...
Hine may have seen the long-sleeved Harvey pass by her...
Lee........was also seen by Hine who was then gotten to and given government orders to say nothing...
Mrs Reid was almost certainly a spook whose job it was to clear the ladies out of the Lunch Room...
Greg Parker is an asshole and evidence-fucker whose job it is to screw up the conspiracy evidence with crazy scenarios and interpretations of evidence...
...You can't do that with official statements in this case because it has been so corrupted and falsified that you need to apply very high skilled detective-like scrutiny to the evidence...
I personally think Geneva Hine lied and she saw both Oswalds...
I think she was gotten to...
there were two Oswalds who left the Depository...One by Bus/Taxi and the other by Station Wagon...
The research community needs the best minds on this delicate evidence...
The real evidence has Harvey either going down the NW stairs and to the Lobby or through the 2nd Floor hallway and down the front stairs to the Lobby...
Hine may have seen the long-sleeved Harvey pass by her...
Lee........was also seen by Hine who was then gotten to and given government orders to say nothing...
Mrs Reid was almost certainly a spook whose job it was to clear the ladies out of the Lunch Room...
...I've been posting it for years...
...I've been posting it for years...
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 12:17:50 PM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
...I've been posting it for years...
So have I....
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 11:46:45 PM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
May have seen ? That's Speculation.
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 8:57:29 PM UTC-4, Greg Parker wroteit has been so corrupted and falsified that you need to apply very high skilled detective-like scrutiny to the evidence...
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 11:29:58 AM UTC+11, Bud wrote:Greg Parker is an asshole and evidence-fucker whose job it is to screw up the conspiracy evidence with crazy scenarios and interpretations of evidence...I wish you all would fuck off out of my thread...
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 8:04:50 PM UTC-4, Greg Parker wrote:
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 7:04:16 AM UTC+11, Bud wrote:
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 3:32:59 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
Like Kinaski said, Kamp and Parker operate under the assumption that the text of Commission statements are all true and accurate when the real record shows they lied and altered evidence...You can't do that with official statements in this case because
Greg is a con man so he hopes you don't notice that he forgets to mention Karen Westbrook who heard Mrs Reid tell of her encounter with Oswald moments after it happened when the women employees were all detained in the 2nd Floor Offices...Greg tries tocon you by taking Geneva Hine's word as straight gospel...I personally think Geneva Hine lied and she saw both Oswalds...I think she was gotten to...Greg operates in a kind of stupid way that has no intelligent detective-like nuance...We know Mrs Reid's
The real evidence has Harvey either going down the NW stairs and to the Lobby or through the 2nd Floor hallway and down the front stairs to the Lobby...Hine may have seen the long-sleeved Harvey pass by her...Lee in the white T-shirt then walkedthrough the 2nd Floor offices and was seen by Mrs Reid...And was also seen by Hine who was then gotten to and given government orders to say nothing...Either Mrs Reid or Hine is lying...The evidence backs Reid being truthful...
Parker is either dumb or he's a government disinformation operative...Mrs Reid was almost certainly a spook whose job it was to clear the ladies out of the Lunch Room...Greg Parker ignores this and quotes her straight while giving credibility to theWarren Commission from which the quotes came...
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 12:17:50?PM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
...I've been posting it for years...
So have I....
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/201-1052.html
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.c
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 2:46:45 PM UTC+11, Brian Doyle wrote:
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 8:57:29 PM UTC-4, Greg Parker wrote
"I didn't pay any attention to what he said because I had no thoughts of anything of him having any connection with it at all because he was very calm. He had gotten a coke and was holding it in his hands and I guess the reason it impressed me seeinghim in there I thought it was a little strange that one of -the warehouse boys would be up in the office at the time, not that he had done anything wrong ."
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 11:29:58 AM UTC+11, Bud wrote:prepped to say the coke was purchased post-assassination. Too bad others don't place her there on her own, but returning with a bunch of others from the street.
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 8:04:50 PM UTC-4, Greg Parker wrote:
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 7:04:16 AM UTC+11, Bud wrote:
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 3:32:59 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 2:30:19 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 9:38:06 PM UTC-4, Greg Parker wrote:
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 11:15:34 AM UTC+11, Bud wrote:
Poor Oswald, goes to two lunchrooms at lunchtime and can`t buy an alibi witness.That's like saying you bought two lottery tickets from the mob and they both won prizes, so the lottery was redrawn because the mob can't afford accidental winners.
First ticket. Oswald bought coke to have with lunch. Was seen and spoken to by Mrs Reid. Mrs Reid could confirm lunchtime coke purchase. But Mrs. Reid is secretary to the boss man and inside man for the plotters, Roy Sansom Truly. She is
testified that someone else was in the domino room at that time, but gosh darn, he just could not recall who it was. In any case, he was Black and and his testimony was for his white oppressors. And eating in the same room as them (if he did) is not theSecond ticket. Seeing Jarman and Norman re-enter building at about 12:25. His words were changed to claim he said he was eating with them, which they denied. But Norman and Jarman previously said that they did eat prior to going up. Norman
trustworthy. Silly game playing.Oswald had two winning tickets. Both were turned into liabilities by his criminal captors.<snicker> I get it, he had *plenty* of alibi witnesses, you just can`t produce any because they were "gotten to".
They lower the bar to the floor for themselves, they don`t need alibi witnesses, imagining they existed is good enough. And to do this they give the conspiracy the magical ability to make anyone say anything at any time, and stick to it for life.What a stupid hobby.It's amazing the things these assclowns will dream up rather that accept the obvious and straight
forward explanation that Oswald shot three guys that day and two of them died.
Reid worked for Truly, so she can`t be trusted. Norman and Jarman are black, so they can`t be trusted. So-and-so is a cop, so they can`t be trusted, unless they provide something a conspiracy hobbyist can use in their ideas, then they become
have to have it and so I was busy with the phone.Calling me a "hobbyist" (as opposed to a professional propagandist like Bugliosi?) doesn't put Mrs. Reid up on the 2nd floor alone with Oswald.It is, indeed, a stupid hobby.Yes.
Mr. BELIN. All right. Do you know about what time it was that you left the lunchroom, was it 12, 12:15?
Mrs. REID. I think around 12:30 somewhere along in there.
Mr. BELIN. All right. When you left the lunchroom, did you leave with the other girls?
Mrs. REID. No; I didn't. The younger girls had gone and I left alone. Mr. BELIN. Were you the last person in the lunchroom?
Mrs. REID. No; I could not say that because I don't remember that part of it because I was going out of the building by myself, I wasn't even, you know, connected with anyone at all.
Mr. BELIN. Were there any men in the lunchroom when you left there?
Mrs. REID. I can't, I don't, remember that.
That's some witness. Claims she ate lunch with all the girls who work under her and left alone to go and watch the parade at 12:30. You are blaming me for her lies? They came from HER not me.
Then post-assassination, she goes back to her office alone and encounters Oswald without any others witnessing it.
Sure. Seems plausible. Not.
Mr. BALL. Did you see Mrs. Reid come back in?
Miss HINE. Yes, sir; I think I felt sure that I did. I thought that there were five or six that came in together. I thought she was one of those.
Mr. BALL. Mrs. Reid told us she came in alone and when she came in she didn't see anybody there.
Miss HINE. Well, it could be that she did, sir. I was talking on the phones and then came the policemen and then came the press. Everybody was wanting an outside line and then our vice president came in and he said "The next one that was clear, I
Mr. BALL. From the time you walked into the room you became immediately busy with the phone?
Miss HINE. Yes, sir; sure was.
Mr. BALL. Did you see Oswald come in?
Miss HINE. My back would have been to the door he was supposed to have come in at.
Mr. BALL. Were you facing the door he is supposed to have left by?
Miss HINE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Do you recall seeing him?
Miss HINE. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Do you have any definite recollection of Mrs. Reid coming in? Miss HINE. No, sir; I only saw four or five people that came by and they all came and were all talking about how terrible it was.
Mr. BALL. Do you remember their names?
Miss HINE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Who were they?
Miss HINE. Mr. Williams, Mr. Molina (spelling), Miss Martha Reid, Mrs. Reid, Mrs. Sarah Stanton, and Mr. Campbell; that's all I recall, sir.
Mrs. Reid came back in with a bunch of others. Hine never saw Oswald even though she was facing the door he supposedly exited. She never heard any conversion between Oswald and Reid.
Roy Sansom Truly and Robert Reid were rewarded for Truly and Reid's wife's efforts with a grand tour of FBI HQ when they went to Washington to give testimony. I doubt Geneva Hine got such an offer ;-)
Now please, I don't mind, Call me all the names you want. Fair play. I call you a bunch of things as well. The difference is I still back up what I say. I rebut using actual evidence.
Do you ever try applying reason to it? Reid said she went to lunch at twelve, and ate hurriedly. You think it takes a half hour to scarf down a lunch?No, I don't But it does not matter what I think or you think.
OBVIOUSLY SHE THOUGHT IT DID.
Or are you accusing your star witness of being illogical?
And then you have a witness who said she had no definite recollection of seeing Reid and treat it as a positive identification. The evidence doesn`t mean anything if you don`t look at it correctly. You are "using actual evidence",
Mr. BALL. Did you see Mrs. Reid come back in?
Miss HINE. ****Yes, sir; I think I felt sure that I did****. I thought that there were five or six that came in together. I thought she was one of those.
FELT POSITIVE
Mr. BALL. Do you have any definite recollection of Mrs. Reid coming in?hedging.
Miss HINE. No, sir; I only saw four or five people that came by and they all came and were all talking about how terrible it was.
Since Ball had already asked this question and she had answered that she "felt positive" that she did, human nature is that when asked the same question again , you instinctively know that the questioner wants a different answer - and she obliged by
Mr. BALL. Do you remember their names?
Miss HINE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Who were they?
Miss HINE. Mr. Williams, Mr. Molina (spelling), Miss Martha Reid, Mrs. Reid, Mrs. Sarah Stanton, and Mr. Campbell; that's all I recall, sir.
Yet when asked the names of all those she recalls coming back in TOGETHER, she again names Mrs. Reid. She also NEVER saw Oswald leave despite facing the door he allegedly left by.
Mrs. Reid did encounter Oswald. It was when he made his almost daily trip up to the
nd floor at the start of lunch to grab a coke.
but you are using it to play silly games.Ball was the one playing silly games fishing for an answer he liked better.
Then put them down and discuss the credibility of your witness, given the testimony of Hines.Why don't you boys give it a try?Playing with blocks is for children.
If you would rather just stay silent, or alternatively, come back with more names for me, go ahead. Either of those is equally telling.
...that fool Gordon...now seems to have gone the way of Sean Murphy and disappeared...
The FULL analysis of the 3pm Interrogation, and its pattern of omission, points to Oswald being in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the shots...
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 9:29:12?AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
...that fool Gordon...now seems to have gone the way of Sean Murphy and disappeared...
I don't know why anyone thinks that, since Gordon very rarely posts anything on the EF Forum anyway.
But I agree that Mr. Gordon is a fool (when it comes the JFK case).
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 9:29:12?AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
The FULL analysis of the 3pm Interrogation, and its pattern of omission, points to Oswald being in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the shots...
That must be why, when asked specifically by Fritz where he was located in the building when JFK was being shot, Oswald told Fritz he was on the FIRST FLOOR, eh?
Do you think you can now change Oswald's alibi attempt to the SECOND floor?
On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 14:21:43 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 9:29:12?AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
The FULL analysis of the 3pm Interrogation, and its pattern of omission, points to Oswald being in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the shots...
That must be why, when asked specifically by Fritz where he was located in the building when JFK was being shot, Oswald told Fritz he was on the FIRST FLOOR, eh?
Do you think you can now change Oswald's alibi attempt to the SECOND floor? 1st floor... 2nd floor... who cares?
We know he was seen on the lower floors both before and after the assassination.
On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 15:27:01 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
wrote:
So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
"virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?
Chickenshit is TERRIFIED of this simple honest question. He knows
that Bugliosi was a moron if he truly thought this... yet you can't
get Chickenshit to publicly acknowledge that Bugliosi said this.
It's a simple "Yes" or "No" question, and Chickenshit cannot cite
where he has EVER answered it. (Without immediately denying it.)
So it's going to keep getting asked until Chickenshit answers it.
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 9:29:12 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
The FULL analysis of the 3pm Interrogation, and its pattern of omission, points to Oswald being in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the shots...
That must be why, when asked specifically by Fritz where he was located in the building when JFK was being shot, Oswald told Fritz he was on the FIRST FLOOR, eh?
Do you think you can now change Oswald's alibi attempt to the SECOND floor?
On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 8:21:45 AM UTC+11, David Von Pein wrote:
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 9:29:12 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
The FULL analysis of the 3pm Interrogation, and its pattern of omission, points to Oswald being in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the shots...
investigation shows that he actually saw him in a lunchroom, a little lunchroom where they were eating, and he held his gun on this man and Mr. Truly told him that he worked there, and the officer let him go.That must be why, when asked specifically by Fritz where he was located in the building when JFK was being shot, Oswald told Fritz he was on the FIRST FLOOR, eh?
Do you think you can now change Oswald's alibi attempt to the SECOND floor?He doesn't think, full stop.
You really want to rely on anything Fritz said?
Mr. BALL. At that time didn't you know that one of your officers, Baker, had seen Oswald on the second floor?
Mr. FRITZ. They told me about that down at the bookstore; I believe Mr. Truly or someone told me about it, told me they had met him--I think he told me, person who told me about, I believe told me that they met him on the stairway, but our
"Told me about that...," Mr Truly or someone told me about it...." "Told me they met him...." "I Think he told me..." "person who told me about..." "I believe told me...." THis is called STUTTERING. Fritz did not USUALLY stutter.respiratory changes; muscle spasms; licking of the lips; thickened and blurred speech; *****stuttering****; darting eye movements; rigidity of the body; the 'playing' of the hands with each other; clenched fists; and cold, clammy sweat in the palms of
What do police look for when evaluating the truthfulness of a witness? Well, one of the things they look for is stuttering when that is not the person's usual speech pattern.
"The indicators of lying include perspiration flow; flushing or paleness of the skin; pulse rate increase or decrease which is apparent from the appearance of visible veins in the head, neck, and throat; dry mouth and tongue; excessive swallowing;
https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/nonverbal-communications-interrogationsBAKER ON THE SECOND FLOOR IN SOME ALTERNATE UNIVERSE.
Nowhere else in any testimony or interview is Fritz known to have stuttered. But on the question of the 2nd floor lunchroom encounter, he stuttered like Don Knotts in "The Shakiest Gun in the West".
Fritz was lying his ass off.
Mr. BALL. Did you question Oswald about that?
Mr. FRITZ. Yes, sir; I asked him about that and he knew that the officer stopped him all right.
And that was the truth. He was stopped by Truly and Det. Kaminski at the front door.
As this document shows, they were stationed there to vet those leaving. Truly specifically had to verify to Kaminski that the person leaving was an employee.... thus his famous line "He's okay. He works here". SAID TO KAMINKI AT THE FRONT DOOR - NOT TO
www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=217812#relPageId=435 (go to the bottom and on to the next page)their employment.*** "HE'S OKAY - HE WORKS HERE"
"as each office and floor was cleared, the employees were cleared by Kaminski and Mr Truly, manager of the firm, at the front door where there names, addresses and telephone numbers were written down, ***and they were identified by Mr. Truly as to
Those names and addresses were later typed up. Whose name appears at the very top with the old Elsbeth address?
Say it with me now... Lee Oswald
Who had only one id with an address on it to show Kaminski?
Say it with me now... Lee Oswald
What IID was that and what address did it show?
Say it with me now.... his library card with the old Elsbeth address.
And please please please quote me correctly and in context on your website. Thank you.
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 9:29:12 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
...that fool Gordon...now seems to have gone the way of Sean Murphy and disappeared...
I don't know why anyone thinks that, since Gordon very rarely posts anything on the EF Forum anyway.
But I agree that Mr. Gordon is a fool (when it comes the JFK case).
On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 8:21:45 AM UTC+11, David Von Pein wrote:
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 2:13:11?PM UTC-7, David Von Pein wrote:
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 9:29:12?AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
...that fool Gordon...now seems to have gone the way of Sean Murphy and disappeared...
I don't know why anyone thinks that, since Gordon very rarely posts anything on the EF Forum anyway.
But I agree that Mr. Gordon is a fool (when it comes the JFK case).
by golly, GEE.... a lone neuter calling another lone neuter a fool -- the *critics* wall must be closing in there Klaus Von Penis...
lmfao!
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 9:29:12 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
The FULL analysis of the 3pm Interrogation, and its pattern of omission, points to Oswald being in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the shots...
That must be why, when asked specifically by Fritz where he was located in the building when JFK was being shot, Oswald told Fritz he was on the FIRST FLOOR, eh?
Do you think you can now change Oswald's alibi attempt to the SECOND floor?
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 5:21:45 PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 9:29:12 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
The FULL analysis of the 3pm Interrogation, and its pattern of omission, points to Oswald being in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the shots...
That must be why, when asked specifically by Fritz where he was located in the building when JFK was being shot, Oswald told Fritz he was on the FIRST FLOOR, eh?
Do you think you can now change Oswald's alibi attempt to the SECOND floor?All the evidence points to it...
FBI lied when it said 1st floor: 1) Because they were trying to direct attention away from Oswald's real location in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room... 2) Because the lack of any witnesses to Oswald being on the 1st Floor would help dismiss the claim...
Common sense tells you that the reason Truly & Baker saw Oswald in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room was because he was there from when Carolyn Arnold saw him at 12:25 to when Truly & Baker saw him 6 minutes later...Carolyn Arnold said Oswald was eating lunch -so he kept doing that until he was encountered by Truly & Baker...Oswald had gone to the Vestibule window from the Lunch Room table when he heard Adams & Styles clatter down the stairs...
The FBI wanted to show Oswald on the 6th floor firing at Kennedy. But instead of moving him up closer to the 6th, you have them moving him further away.
Von Pein has gone after the Prayer Man people on the Education Forum by means of my evidence...Only he fails to credit me as the source...used as reference to Oswald being Prayer Man (as Kamp does)...Von Pein has directly stolen this and posted it uncredited on James Gordon's Education Forum...
I am the person who discovered that the notes from the 3pm Interrogation all started at the Lunch Room Encounter 90 seconds after the shots, so therefore any reference to Oswald going outside was several minutes after the shots and therefore cannot be
On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 5:43:08 AM UTC+11, Brian Doyle wrote:
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 5:21:45 PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
LOL. You can't just repeat the same shit after it has been thoroughly debunked. The FBI wanted to show Oswald on the 6th floor firing at Kennedy. But instead of moving him up closer to the 6th, you have them moving him further away. Wouldn't it,according to your theory, have been wiser to say the Baker Truly Oswald encounter happened on the 3rd or 4th floor where Baker initially placed it?
- so he kept doing that until he was encountered by Truly & Baker...Oswald had gone to the Vestibule window from the Lunch Room table when he heard Adams & Styles clatter down the stairs...Common sense tells you that the reason Truly & Baker saw Oswald in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room was because he was there from when Carolyn Arnold saw him at 12:25 to when Truly & Baker saw him 6 minutes later...Carolyn Arnold said Oswald was eating lunch
And Carolyn Arnold saw him on the 1st floor at 12:15, snookums. Not 12:25 up on the 2nd.
Brian, you are dismissed. You have not directly answered to any of the evidence provided. You need to go back to the Deep Foo and seek absolution from the Very Reverend Gilbride. Please send in the other nutters on your way out. There's a good lad.
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