Sky Throne/Flags is full of BS here. We know that BOTH Benavides AND Bowley were inside Tippit's car trying to report the shooting. But only one of those men can can be heard on the DPD tapes---and that's Bowley.radio.
The Warren Commission, however, was confused about who it was who actually had used the police radio, and they incorrectly said on page 166 of the Warren Report that it was Benavides (and not Bowley) who got through to the DPD dispatcher on Tippit's
WCR, Page 166: https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0095b.htmCallaway's.
But if BOTH men had actually gotten through to the DPD dispatcher that day, then we'd have a total of THREE "citizens" (civilians) being heard on the DPD Radio Tapes. But we don't have THREE such transmissions. We only have two---Bowley's and then
From a 2019 discussion (linked below).....nearly 900 pages in length is, I would think, perfectly normal and to be expected.)
DVP SAID:
"There is at least one mistake to be found in the Warren Commission's Final Report. (And there are probably several other errors in the Report too, which wouldn't surprise or shock me at all. Finding a few relatively minor errors in a report that's
The WC mistake I had in mind today can be found on Page 166 of the Warren Report, where there's an error concerning Domingo Benavides and the J.D. Tippit murder. The Warren Commission incorrectly thought that it was Benavides who had made the citizen'scall on Tippit's police radio ("We've had a shooting out here"). But it was later learned that it was really another witness, T.F. Bowley, who made that radio call, which was done only after Benavides had been pumping (or mashing) the microphone for
"Beginning at 1:16 p.m., a microphone is keyed a number of times on channel one of the Dallas police tapes, as if someone were 'pumping' the microphone button of a police radio. This continues for a little over 90 seconds, right up until the timepassing motorist T.F. Bowley successfully contacts the dispatcher. .... Considering the timing of the sounds heard in the Dallas police radio recordings, and the corroborating accounts of three witnesses, the murder of Tippit probably occurred about 90
The Warren Commission was apparently relying on a truncated transcript of the Dallas Police radio tapes that appears on Page 52 of Commission Exhibit No. 1974, which is a transcript that has several radio transmissions omitted, as well as having a "long pause" of 15 seconds omitted (as we can see when comparing CE1974 with this more complete version of the DPD radio tapes)....
https://www.jfk-assassination.net/dpdtapes/tapes2.htmuntil the 1990s when Dale Myers talked about it in his 1998 book.
The Commission, therefore, in trying to pinpoint the precise time of Officer Tippit's shooting, failed to take into account the extra 90 seconds of microphone clicking and pumping that was done by Benavides, which I don't think was even discovered
So the actual time when Officer J.D. Tippit was shot and killed had to be sometime prior to 1:16 PM, because Benavides' "pumping" begins at exactly 1:16." -- DVP; Aug. 2019
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/warren-commission-got-it-right-part-2.html
Clown Brown sayeth:
You have no idea what you're talking about (again). Someone was keying the mic for about ninety seconds before Bowley made his report. You'd rather run away than learn something.
There is not 90 seconds of microphone keying, whoever the fuck was talking on the radio.
On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 9:39:13 PM UTC-4, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:transcripts), then it's logical to assume that the shooting itself probably occurred a *very few minutes* before that time, at about 1:15 PM or so.
There is not 90 seconds of microphone keying, whoever the fuck was talking on the radio.What difference does it really make if there's any "keying of the microphone" or not? It makes no difference in the long run. Since we know that *somebody* is FIRST reporting the shooting over the radio at about 1:17 or 1:18 PM (per the DPD Radio
And this timeline is a big problem for the conspiracy crackpots who love to cling to their beloved "1:06" and/or "1:10" times for the Tippit shooting, because we would then have to believe the ridiculous scenario of Benavides and/or Bowley waitingaround for up to TEN full minutes (or more) before they got on the police radio to report the shooting. And such a long delay is utter nonsense. There's no chance in hell they waited that long to use Tippit's radio.
But keep dreaming, Throne/Flags. After all, dreams are all you've got at this point.
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/tippit-timelines.html
On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 10:46:28 AM UTC-4, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
Clown Brown sayeth:
You have no idea what you're talking about (again). Someone was keying the mic for about ninety seconds before Bowley made his report. You'd rather run away than learn something.As someone who has had years of experience using two-way communications, including police radios, I suggest it is BROWN who has no idea what he's talking about.
Here's the dictabelt recording 31 seconds before Bowley called on the radio. There was no one keying the mic for 90 seconds before his call.
The transmissions were loud and clear, which they would not have been had someone been keying the mic.
https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/bowley-call.mp3
What difference does it really make if...
And also see the December 2, 1963, affidavit of T.F. Bowley (excerpted below):the left front wheel. I stopped my car and got out to go to the scene. I looked at my watch and it said 1:10 pm. Several people were at the scene. When I got there the first thing I did was try to help the officer. He appeared beyond help to me. A man
"On Friday, November 22, 1963...I was headed north on Marsalis and turned west on 10th Street. I traveled about a block and noticed a Dallas police squad car stopped in the traffic lane headed east on 10th Street. I saw a police officer lying next to
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oBQVSJXfZXg/Tvw_d8vBdLI/AAAAAAAAByY/1FVQ0iegIgM/s1500-h/T-F-Bowley-Affidavit.gif
A key portion of the above affidavit that Throne/Flags might be interested in is this (DVP's emphasis added):
"A man was trying to use the radio in the squad car but stated HE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO OPERATE IT. I know how and took the radio from him."
And also see the December 2, 1963, affidavit of T.F. Bowley (excerpted below):the left front wheel. I stopped my car and got out to go to the scene. I looked at my watch and it said 1:10 pm. Several people were at the scene. When I got there the first thing I did was try to help the officer. He appeared beyond help to me. A man
"On Friday, November 22, 1963...I was headed north on Marsalis and turned west on 10th Street. I traveled about a block and noticed a Dallas police squad car stopped in the traffic lane headed east on 10th Street. I saw a police officer lying next to
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oBQVSJXfZXg/Tvw_d8vBdLI/AAAAAAAAByY/1FVQ0iegIgM/s1500-h/T-F-Bowley-Affidavit.gif
A key portion of the above affidavit that Throne/Flags might be interested in is this (DVP's emphasis added):
"A man was trying to use the radio in the squad car but stated HE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO OPERATE IT. I know how and took the radio from him."
"Someone was keying the mic for about ninety seconds before Bowley made his report." ...Dale Myers lackey, Bill Brown.speculate that the few apparent isolated keyings are from Benavides, but there is no evidence that they have anything to do with 10th Street. That is speculation. And it is not the continuous keying indicated by Brown. It does not sound like somebody
You can hear for yourself here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=744VxKTqQ3k the relevant portion of the recording. Nobody is keying the mic "for about 90 seconds." Almost all of the 90 seconds is filled with police transmissions and silence. One could
More interesting is, "Unit 47 is in the basement if somebody needs it." Listen carefully to the Dispatcher's intense "10-4." This is the last complete transmission we hear before the 10th Street report.
This is the only interesting passage in the whole thread here. What "basement"? And who is Unit 47? Youth Want To Know... and so do I...
On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 1:24:41 AM UTC-7, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:speculate that the few apparent isolated keyings are from Benavides, but there is no evidence that they have anything to do with 10th Street. That is speculation. And it is not the continuous keying indicated by Brown. It does not sound like somebody
"Someone was keying the mic for about ninety seconds before Bowley made his report." ...Dale Myers lackey, Bill Brown.
You can hear for yourself here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=744VxKTqQ3k the relevant portion of the recording. Nobody is keying the mic "for about 90 seconds." Almost all of the 90 seconds is filled with police transmissions and silence. One could
More interesting is, "Unit 47 is in the basement if somebody needs it." Listen carefully to the Dispatcher's intense "10-4." This is the last complete transmission we hear before the 10th Street report.This is the only interesting passage in the whole thread here. What "basement"? And who is Unit 47? Youth Want To Know... and so do I...
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 12:30:07 PM UTC-4, Donald Willis wrote:could speculate that the few apparent isolated keyings are from Benavides, but there is no evidence that they have anything to do with 10th Street. That is speculation. And it is not the continuous keying indicated by Brown. It does not sound like
On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 1:24:41 AM UTC-7, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
"Someone was keying the mic for about ninety seconds before Bowley made his report." ...Dale Myers lackey, Bill Brown.
You can hear for yourself here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=744VxKTqQ3k the relevant portion of the recording. Nobody is keying the mic "for about 90 seconds." Almost all of the 90 seconds is filled with police transmissions and silence. One
as "it," even though the transcripts might say "him." There's something weird about it, and I think it's a message relayed to the Dispatcher that he's about to get the Tippit shooting call.Because it just doesn't make sense as a normal thing.There is a "unit 47." In the transcripts he is identified as Patrolman W. F. Morris. But at 1:16 he takes a call, "Signal 9, contact the manager, 4916 Live Oak. 1:16." So why would he 1 minute later be in the basement? And the speaker refers to Unit 47More interesting is, "Unit 47 is in the basement if somebody needs it." Listen carefully to the Dispatcher's intense "10-4." This is the last complete transmission we hear before the 10th Street report.This is the only interesting passage in the whole thread here. What "basement"? And who is Unit 47? Youth Want To Know... and so do I...
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 11:10:22 PM UTC-4, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:could speculate that the few apparent isolated keyings are from Benavides, but there is no evidence that they have anything to do with 10th Street. That is speculation. And it is not the continuous keying indicated by Brown. It does not sound like
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 12:30:07 PM UTC-4, Donald Willis wrote:
On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 1:24:41 AM UTC-7, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
"Someone was keying the mic for about ninety seconds before Bowley made his report." ...Dale Myers lackey, Bill Brown.
You can hear for yourself here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=744VxKTqQ3k the relevant portion of the recording. Nobody is keying the mic "for about 90 seconds." Almost all of the 90 seconds is filled with police transmissions and silence. One
47 as "it," even though the transcripts might say "him." There's something weird about it, and I think it's a message relayed to the Dispatcher that he's about to get the Tippit shooting call.Because it just doesn't make sense as a normal thing.There is a "unit 47." In the transcripts he is identified as Patrolman W. F. Morris. But at 1:16 he takes a call, "Signal 9, contact the manager, 4916 Live Oak. 1:16." So why would he 1 minute later be in the basement? And the speaker refers to UnitMore interesting is, "Unit 47 is in the basement if somebody needs it." Listen carefully to the Dispatcher's intense "10-4." This is the last complete transmission we hear before the 10th Street report.This is the only interesting passage in the whole thread here. What "basement"? And who is Unit 47? Youth Want To Know... and so do I...
Oh the joy! Now I have a video to explain Unit 47 being in the basement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvuzJULR7qE
On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 6:12:02 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 10:46:28 AM UTC-4, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
Clown Brown sayeth:
You have no idea what you're talking about (again). Someone was keying the mic for about ninety seconds before Bowley made his report. You'd rather run away than learn something.As someone who has had years of experience using two-way communications, including police radios, I suggest it is BROWN who has no idea what he's talking about.
Here's the dictabelt recording 31 seconds before Bowley called on the radio. There was no one keying the mic for 90 seconds before his call.
The transmissions were loud and clear, which they would not have been had someone been keying the mic.
https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/bowley-call.mp3A second point is that when someone keys the mic, there's no way of knowing what unit the keying was coming from.
Anyone ( including Myers ) who says it was coming from Tippit's mic is SPECULATING that.
On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 10:46:28 AM UTC-4, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
Clown Brown sayeth:
You have no idea what you're talking about (again). Someone was keying the mic for about ninety seconds before Bowley made his report. You'd rather run away than learn something.As someone who has had years of experience using two-way communications, including police radios, I suggest it is BROWN who has no idea what he's talking about.
Here's the dictabelt recording 31 seconds before Bowley called on the radio. There was no one keying the mic for 90 seconds before his call.
The transmissions were loud and clear, which they would not have been had someone been keying the mic.
https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/bowley-call.mp3
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