• The Single Bullet Theory Is The Stupidest Theory Of Them All

    From NoTrueFlags Here@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 27 08:33:37 2023
    But when they murderers control the investigation, the government and the mainstream media, they can get away with anything.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to NoTrueFlags Here on Wed Sep 27 09:32:10 2023
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 11:33:39 AM UTC-4, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    But when they murderers control the investigation, the government and the mainstream media, they can get away with anything.

    The FBI and the Secret Service didn't buy it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoTrueFlags Here@21:1/5 to Chuck Schuyler on Wed Sep 27 09:34:04 2023
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 12:19:14 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 10:33:39 AM UTC-5, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:

    But when they murderers control the investigation, the government and the mainstream media, they can get away with anything.
    Which theory makes the most sense to you?

    The SBT is impossible. So, anything possible is more likely.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Chuck Schuyler@21:1/5 to NoTrueFlags Here on Wed Sep 27 09:19:13 2023
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 10:33:39 AM UTC-5, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:

    But when they murderers control the investigation, the government and the mainstream media, they can get away with anything.

    Which theory makes the most sense to you?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Chuck Schuyler@21:1/5 to NoTrueFlags Here on Wed Sep 27 11:07:08 2023
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 11:34:06 AM UTC-5, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 12:19:14 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 10:33:39 AM UTC-5, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:

    But when they murderers control the investigation, the government and the mainstream media, they can get away with anything.
    Which theory makes the most sense to you?

    The SBT is impossible. So, anything possible is more likely.

    Oswald firing from the grassy knoll? Greer firing from the driver's seat?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Chuck Schuyler@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Wed Sep 27 11:05:14 2023
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 11:32:12 AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 11:33:39 AM UTC-4, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    But when they murderers control the investigation, the government and the mainstream media, they can get away with anything.

    The FBI and the Secret Service didn't buy it.

    You think they were "in" on it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Chuck Schuyler on Wed Sep 27 11:31:40 2023
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 2:07:09 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 11:34:06 AM UTC-5, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 12:19:14 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 10:33:39 AM UTC-5, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:

    But when they murderers control the investigation, the government and the mainstream media, they can get away with anything.
    Which theory makes the most sense to you?

    The SBT is impossible. So, anything possible is more likely.
    Oswald firing from the grassy knoll? Greer firing from the driver's seat?

    Just because JFK and JBC were perfectly lined up with the sniper's nest at the time JFK was
    struck in the back and that JFK and JBC both reacted at the same time, a split second after that
    bullet struck, why would anyone believe the SBT?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Wed Sep 27 11:29:03 2023
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 12:32:12 PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 11:33:39 AM UTC-4, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    But when they murderers control the investigation, the government and the mainstream media, they can get away with anything.
    The FBI and the Secret Service didn't buy it.

    Do you believe everything the FBI and Secret Service say?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoTrueFlags Here@21:1/5 to Chuck Schuyler on Wed Sep 27 11:34:29 2023
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 2:07:09 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 11:34:06 AM UTC-5, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 12:19:14 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 10:33:39 AM UTC-5, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:

    But when they murderers control the investigation, the government and the mainstream media, they can get away with anything.
    Which theory makes the most sense to you?

    The SBT is impossible. So, anything possible is more likely.
    Oswald firing from the grassy knoll? Greer firing from the driver's seat?
    The SBT is impossible, so all possibilities are more likely.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Chuck Schuyler on Wed Sep 27 11:43:05 2023
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 2:07:09 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 11:34:06 AM UTC-5, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 12:19:14 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 10:33:39 AM UTC-5, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:

    But when they murderers control the investigation, the government and the mainstream media, they can get away with anything.
    Which theory makes the most sense to you?

    The SBT is impossible. So, anything possible is more likely.
    Oswald firing from the grassy knoll? Greer firing from the driver's seat?

    The SBT isn't unique to the JFK assassination. During the Ruby Ridge standoff, Randy Weaver's
    wife Vicki was killed by a bullet to the face that also struck Weaver's friend Kevin Harris and
    passed through the cabin door before striking Vicki in the face. A human body isn't going to
    stop a bullet fired by a high power rifle. A bullet is going to go through a human body and strike
    whatever is on the other side, including another human being. There is nothing impossible about
    that.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Wed Sep 27 16:14:23 2023
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 12:32:12 PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 11:33:39 AM UTC-4, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    But when they murderers control the investigation, the government and the mainstream media, they can get away with anything.
    The FBI and the Secret Service didn't buy it.

    Show either took an official position on it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bud@21:1/5 to NoTrueFlags Here on Wed Sep 27 16:13:25 2023
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 2:34:31 PM UTC-4, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 2:07:09 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 11:34:06 AM UTC-5, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 12:19:14 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 10:33:39 AM UTC-5, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:

    But when they murderers control the investigation, the government and the mainstream media, they can get away with anything.
    Which theory makes the most sense to you?

    The SBT is impossible. So, anything possible is more likely.
    Oswald firing from the grassy knoll? Greer firing from the driver's seat?
    The SBT is impossible,

    Why?

    so all possibilities are more likely.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoTrueFlags Here@21:1/5 to Bud on Wed Sep 27 17:45:37 2023
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 7:13:27 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

    Why?

    Did you say something, Little Bud? I thought you were ignoring me. Yes, the eternal question, "Why?" Tell me why the stars do shine. Tell me why the sky is blue. Tell me why you cried, and why you lie ie ied to me? Tell me why. These philosophical
    moments really are what make the Nut House so very special.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bud@21:1/5 to NoTrueFlags Here on Wed Sep 27 18:18:54 2023
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 8:45:39 PM UTC-4, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 7:13:27 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

    Why?

    Did you say something, Little Bud? I thought you were ignoring me. Yes, the eternal question, "Why?" Tell me why the stars do shine. Tell me why the sky is blue. Tell me why you cried, and why you lie ie ied to me? Tell me why. These philosophical
    moments really are what make the Nut House so very special.

    I never really thought you`d put up anything of substance to back up your empty claim.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoTrueFlags Here@21:1/5 to Bud on Wed Sep 27 18:30:28 2023
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 9:18:56 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 8:45:39 PM UTC-4, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 7:13:27 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

    Why?

    Did you say something, Little Bud? I thought you were ignoring me. Yes, the eternal question, "Why?" Tell me why the stars do shine. Tell me why the sky is blue. Tell me why you cried, and why you lie ie ied to me? Tell me why. These philosophical
    moments really are what make the Nut House so very special.
    I never really thought
    Exactly.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to Bud on Thu Sep 28 03:59:26 2023
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:35:20 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    If you could show the SBT was impossible, you would be a hero among the conspiracy crowd, as it would pretty much destroy the lone nut position. Unfortunately you only have what conspiracy folks have had for
    decades, meaningless noise and hot air.

    Run from this, Chickenshit:

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/reasdoubt1.mp4

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/reasdoubt2.mp4

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bud@21:1/5 to NoTrueFlags Here on Thu Sep 28 03:35:18 2023
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 9:30:31 PM UTC-4, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 9:18:56 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 8:45:39 PM UTC-4, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 7:13:27 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

    Why?

    Did you say something, Little Bud? I thought you were ignoring me. Yes, the eternal question, "Why?" Tell me why the stars do shine. Tell me why the sky is blue. Tell me why you cried, and why you lie ie ied to me? Tell me why. These philosophical
    moments really are what make the Nut House so very special.
    I never really thought
    Exactly.

    If you could show the SBT was impossible, you would be a hero among the conspiracy crowd, as it would pretty much destroy the lone nut position. Unfortunately you only have what conspiracy folks have had for decades, meaningless noise and hot air.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to John Corbett on Thu Sep 28 04:58:55 2023
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 7:20:35 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:59:28 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:35:20 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    If you could show the SBT was impossible, you would be a hero among the conspiracy crowd, as it would pretty much destroy the lone nut position. Unfortunately you only have what conspiracy folks have had for
    decades, meaningless noise and hot air.
    Run from this, Chickenshit:

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/reasdoubt1.mp4

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/reasdoubt2.mp4
    Why would anyone run from your silly videos. They contain no evidence that refutes the SBT.
    They are filled with long debunked arguments against the SBT.

    Here are the undeniable facts that you always run from, Gil.

    Why do you ask me to provide you with evidence that you're not going to believe anyways ?
    Why do you ask me to waste my time ?

    At frame Z224, Connally's jacket suddenly bulges outward.
    At frame Z224, JFK and JBC are perfectly aligned for a shot from the sniper's nest.
    From frame Z224 to Z225, JFK's right hand is still moving downward.
    At frame Z226 JFK suddenly jerks both arms upward.
    At frame Z226 JBC suddenly jerks his right arm upward.

    The FBI never said that.
    The Secret Service never said that.
    The Warren Commission never said that.
    The House Select Committee never said that.
    No witness ever said that.
    Connally said he wasn't hit before Z -231.
    Z-230 shows that to be correct. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Z230.mp4

    There's NO EVIDENCE to support that theory. You're the only one IN THE WORLD who claims that they were both hit at Z-226.

    At Parkland hospital, a bullet was found near Connally's stretcher that had been fired by
    Oswald's rifle which had been found on the 6th floor of the TSBD.

    And the people who found it could not identify CE 399 as the bullet they found. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/magic_bullet.jpg

    The medical evidence proved conclusively that a bullet entered JFK's back and exited from
    the center of his throat. Such a bullet could not have missed JBC.

    No bullet track could be found through the body. You can't have a transiting bullet without it leaving a track through the body.

    BOSWELL TESTIMONY TO ARRB 2/26/96, PAGE 128

    Boswell saw a probe go in the back. But it only went in three inches.

    http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?mode=searchResult&absPageId=67709

    http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/arrb/medical_testimony/Boswell_2-26-96/html/Boswell_0065b.htm


    FINCK TESTIMONY TO ARRB, 5/24/96. pg. 92

    Pierre Finck agreed, referring to the probing of the back wound as "unsuccessful".

    http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?mode=searchResult&absPageId=67825

    http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/arrb/medical_testimony/Finck_5-24-96/html/Finck_0009b.htm


    There was no metallic residue found on the tie, and for that matter there was no metallic residue found on the shirt at the holes in the front. However, there was in the back. ( 5 H 62 )


    FINCK TESTIMONY TO WARREN COMMISSION: Too many fragments left in wrist for wound to be caused by CE 399 ( 2 H 382 )


    FROM THE EMERGENCY ROOM DOCTORS:

    PARKLAND DOC SAYS THROAT WOUND WAS WOUND OF ENTRY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EQc1nlbRlw


    CONNALLY DOC SAYS CE 399 DIDN'T CREATE CONNALLY WOUNDS

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8PVffA2EGg


    DALLAS REPORTER QUOTES DR. PERRY SAYING THROAT WOUND WAS WOUND OF ENTRY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY5dNpTYWT8


    DR. ROBERT LIVINGSTON ON THROAT WOUND

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma8aqkr-0Tg


    FROM THE FBI:

    FBI MAN SAYS THERE WAS NO EXIT FOR THE BACK WOUND

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMzhKy-O4T4

    FROM A WITNESS TO THE SHOOTING:

    SHOOTING WITNESS SAYS SAME BULLET DID NOT HIT BOTH MEN

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfRivH8G9tY

    So let's sum up:


    NO EVIDENCE of copper on the front of the clothing of President Kennedy

    NO EVIDENCE of copper on the clothing of Governor Connally

    NO EVIDENCE of a bullet track through Kennedy's body according to the autopsists and an FBI man who witnessed the autopsy.

    In addition, the bullet alleged to have gone through both victims contains NO EVIDENCE that it transited the bodies and clothing of either victim due to the fact that it contained no microscopic evidence of any blood or clothing fibers of either victim
    or any bone particles of Governor Connally on it.

    There was no bullet path through Kennedy's body. When the autopsy doctors tried to track the bullet with a probe, the probe only went in 3 inches and stopped.

    Finally, not one of the Parkland medical witnesses who saw the throat wound described it as a wound of exit, but ALL agreed that the wound was a wound of entry.

    Let me see you explain these facts without the SBT. We all know you can't do that. You won't
    even try. Nobody else has ever tried either.

    Once again, I've provided you and your nutcase buddies the evidence that you will not accept.
    Please stop asking me to "prove this" and "prove that" when you know that whatever evidence I provide you will just reject.
    It's a terrible waste of my time and I have so much shit to do.
    Otherwise, I'll have to ignore you assholes and let you accuse me of "running" once again.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoTrueFlags Here@21:1/5 to Bud on Thu Sep 28 04:21:00 2023
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:35:20 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 9:30:31 PM UTC-4, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 9:18:56 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 8:45:39 PM UTC-4, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 7:13:27 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

    Why?

    Did you say something, Little Bud? I thought you were ignoring me. Yes, the eternal question, "Why?" Tell me why the stars do shine. Tell me why the sky is blue. Tell me why you cried, and why you lie ie ied to me? Tell me why. These
    philosophical moments really are what make the Nut House so very special.
    I never really thought
    Exactly.
    If you could show the SBT was impossible, you would be a hero among the conspiracy crowd, as it would pretty much destroy the lone nut position. Unfortunately you only have what conspiracy folks have had for decades, meaningless noise and hot air.

    It has been shown repeatedly, which just proves the old adage, "You can show something to a horse's ass, but you can't make him see."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Thu Sep 28 04:20:33 2023
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:59:28 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:35:20 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    If you could show the SBT was impossible, you would be a hero among the conspiracy crowd, as it would pretty much destroy the lone nut position. Unfortunately you only have what conspiracy folks have had for
    decades, meaningless noise and hot air.
    Run from this, Chickenshit:

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/reasdoubt1.mp4

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/reasdoubt2.mp4

    Why would anyone run from your silly videos. They contain no evidence that refutes the SBT.
    They are filled with long debunked arguments against the SBT.

    Here are the undeniable facts that you always run from, Gil.

    At frame Z224, Connally's jacket suddenly bulges outward.
    At frame Z224, JFK and JBC are perfectly aligned for a shot from the sniper's nest.
    From frame Z224 to Z225, JFK's right hand is still moving downward.
    At frame Z226 JFK suddenly jerks both arms upward.
    At frame Z226 JBC suddenly jerks his right arm upward.
    At Parkland hospital, a bullet was found near Connally's stretcher that had been fired by
    Oswald's rifle which had been found on the 6th floor of the TSBD.
    The medical evidence proved conclusively that a bullet entered JFK's back and exited from
    the center of his throat. Such a bullet could not have missed JBC.

    Let me see you explain these facts without the SBT. We all know you can't do that. You won't
    even try. Nobody else has ever tried either.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to chuckschuyler123@gmail.com on Thu Sep 28 08:17:06 2023
    On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 09:19:13 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler <chuckschuyler123@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 10:33:39?AM UTC-5, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:

    But when they murderers control the investigation, the government and the mainstream media, they can get away with anything.

    Which theory makes the most sense to you?

    The one supported by the evidence.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to geowright1963@gmail.com on Thu Sep 28 08:17:06 2023
    On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 11:31:40 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <geowright1963@gmail.com> wrote:


    Just because JFK and JBC were perfectly lined up with the sniper's nest at the time JFK was
    struck in the back and that JFK and JBC both reacted at the same time, a split second after that
    bullet struck, why would anyone believe the SBT?

    Is that what the Warren Commission said?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 08:17:06 2023
    On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 16:14:23 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirslick@fast.net>
    wrote:


    So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
    "virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?

    Chickenshit is TERRIFIED of this simple honest question. He knows
    that Bugliosi was a moron if he truly thought this... yet you can't
    get Chickenshit to publicly acknowledge that Bugliosi said this.

    It's a simple "Yes" or "No" question, and Chickenshit cannot cite
    where he has EVER answered it. (Without immediately denying it.)

    So it's going to keep getting asked until Chickenshit answers it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to gjjmail1202@gmail.com on Thu Sep 28 08:17:06 2023
    On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 04:58:55 -0700 (PDT), Gil Jesus
    <gjjmail1202@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 7:20:35?AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:59:28?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:35:20?AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    If you could show the SBT was impossible, you would be a hero among the conspiracy crowd, as it would pretty much destroy the lone nut position. Unfortunately you only have what conspiracy folks have had for
    decades, meaningless noise and hot air.
    Run from this, Chickenshit:

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/reasdoubt1.mp4

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/reasdoubt2.mp4
    Why would anyone run from your silly videos. They contain no evidence that refutes the SBT.
    They are filled with long debunked arguments against the SBT.

    Here are the undeniable facts that you always run from, Gil.

    Why do you ask me to provide you with evidence that you're not going to believe anyways ?
    Why do you ask me to waste my time ?

    At frame Z224, Connally's jacket suddenly bulges outward.
    At frame Z224, JFK and JBC are perfectly aligned for a shot from the sniper's nest.
    From frame Z224 to Z225, JFK's right hand is still moving downward.
    At frame Z226 JFK suddenly jerks both arms upward.
    At frame Z226 JBC suddenly jerks his right arm upward.

    The FBI never said that.
    The Secret Service never said that.
    The Warren Commission never said that.
    The House Select Committee never said that.
    No witness ever said that.
    Connally said he wasn't hit before Z -231.
    Z-230 shows that to be correct. >https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Z230.mp4

    There's NO EVIDENCE to support that theory. You're the only one IN THE WORLD who claims that they were both hit at Z-226.

    At Parkland hospital, a bullet was found near Connally's stretcher that had been fired by
    Oswald's rifle which had been found on the 6th floor of the TSBD.

    And the people who found it could not identify CE 399 as the bullet they found.
    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/magic_bullet.jpg

    The medical evidence proved conclusively that a bullet entered JFK's back and exited from
    the center of his throat. Such a bullet could not have missed JBC.

    No bullet track could be found through the body. You can't have a transiting bullet without it leaving a track through the body.

    BOSWELL TESTIMONY TO ARRB 2/26/96, PAGE 128

    Boswell saw a probe go in the back. But it only went in three inches.

    http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?mode=searchResult&absPageId=67709

    http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/arrb/medical_testimony/Boswell_2-26-96/html/Boswell_0065b.htm


    FINCK TESTIMONY TO ARRB, 5/24/96. pg. 92

    Pierre Finck agreed, referring to the probing of the back wound as "unsuccessful".

    http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?mode=searchResult&absPageId=67825

    http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/arrb/medical_testimony/Finck_5-24-96/html/Finck_0009b.htm


    There was no metallic residue found on the tie, and for that matter there was no metallic residue found on the shirt at the holes in the front. However, there was in the back. ( 5 H 62 )


    FINCK TESTIMONY TO WARREN COMMISSION: Too many fragments left in wrist for wound to be caused by CE 399 ( 2 H 382 )


    FROM THE EMERGENCY ROOM DOCTORS:

    PARKLAND DOC SAYS THROAT WOUND WAS WOUND OF ENTRY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EQc1nlbRlw


    CONNALLY DOC SAYS CE 399 DIDN'T CREATE CONNALLY WOUNDS

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8PVffA2EGg


    DALLAS REPORTER QUOTES DR. PERRY SAYING THROAT WOUND WAS WOUND OF ENTRY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY5dNpTYWT8


    DR. ROBERT LIVINGSTON ON THROAT WOUND

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma8aqkr-0Tg


    FROM THE FBI:

    FBI MAN SAYS THERE WAS NO EXIT FOR THE BACK WOUND

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMzhKy-O4T4

    FROM A WITNESS TO THE SHOOTING:

    SHOOTING WITNESS SAYS SAME BULLET DID NOT HIT BOTH MEN

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfRivH8G9tY

    So let's sum up:


    NO EVIDENCE of copper on the front of the clothing of President Kennedy

    NO EVIDENCE of copper on the clothing of Governor Connally

    NO EVIDENCE of a bullet track through Kennedy's body according to the autopsists and an FBI man who witnessed the autopsy.

    In addition, the bullet alleged to have gone through both victims contains NO EVIDENCE that it transited the bodies and clothing of either victim due to the fact that it contained no microscopic evidence of any blood or clothing fibers of either victim
    or any bone particles of Governor Connally on it.

    There was no bullet path through Kennedy's body. When the autopsy doctors tried to track the bullet with a probe, the probe only went in 3 inches and stopped.

    Finally, not one of the Parkland medical witnesses who saw the throat wound described it as a wound of exit, but ALL agreed that the wound was a wound of entry.

    Let me see you explain these facts without the SBT. We all know you can't do that. You won't
    even try. Nobody else has ever tried either.

    Once again, I've provided you and your nutcase buddies the evidence that you will not accept.
    Please stop asking me to "prove this" and "prove that" when you know that whatever evidence I provide you will just reject.
    It's a terrible waste of my time and I have so much shit to do.
    Otherwise, I'll have to ignore you assholes and let you accuse me of "running" once again.


    Sadly, Corbuttt will never retract his lies, or admit that his talking
    points have been refuted with evidence.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Thu Sep 28 08:39:55 2023
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 11:17:16 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    Sadly, Corbuttt will never retract his lies, or admit that his talking points have been refuted with evidence.

    They're all like that.
    You can show them all the evidence in world that the WC was wrong and they just deny it.
    Then they make up excuses for denying it like, "you're looking at the wrong things incorrectly".
    ROFLMAO
    What the fuck does that even mean ?
    That it's possible to look at the wrong things correctly ?
    Or the right things incorrectly ?
    ROFLMAO

    If this is the best .john left the world to carry on his legacy, he must be rolling over in his grave.
    You're right, they are a sad bunch.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to gjjmail1202@gmail.com on Thu Sep 28 08:54:45 2023
    On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 08:39:55 -0700 (PDT), Gil Jesus
    <gjjmail1202@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 11:17:16?AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    Sadly, Corbuttt will never retract his lies, or admit that his talking points have been refuted with evidence.

    They're all like that.
    You can show them all the evidence in world that the WC was wrong and they just deny it.
    Then they make up excuses for denying it like, "you're looking at the wrong things incorrectly".
    ROFLMAO
    What the fuck does that even mean ?
    That it's possible to look at the wrong things correctly ?
    Or the right things incorrectly ?
    ROFLMAO

    If this is the best .john left the world to carry on his legacy, he must be rolling over in his grave.
    You're right, they are a sad bunch.

    You took more time than I in answering Corbutt's nonsense. Lurkers
    thank you for posting evidence...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Thu Sep 28 09:01:53 2023
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 11:54:52 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    You took more time than I in answering Corbutt's nonsense. Lurkers thank you for posting evidence...

    After they were done with the chest surgery, Connally's doc says in press conference that the bullet that struck his thigh was still in the thigh
    and had NOT been removed, unlike the Commission's bullshit that CE 399 fell out of the leg.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69H_OyVFqrM

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Thu Sep 28 10:10:17 2023
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 7:58:57 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 7:20:35 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:59:28 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:35:20 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    If you could show the SBT was impossible, you would be a hero among the conspiracy crowd, as it would pretty much destroy the lone nut position. Unfortunately you only have what conspiracy folks have had for
    decades, meaningless noise and hot air.
    Run from this, Chickenshit:

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/reasdoubt1.mp4

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/reasdoubt2.mp4
    Why would anyone run from your silly videos. They contain no evidence that refutes the SBT.
    They are filled with long debunked arguments against the SBT.

    Here are the undeniable facts that you always run from, Gil.
    Why do you ask me to provide you with evidence that you're not going to believe anyways ?
    Why do you ask me to waste my time ?
    At frame Z224, Connally's jacket suddenly bulges outward.
    At frame Z224, JFK and JBC are perfectly aligned for a shot from the sniper's nest.
    From frame Z224 to Z225, JFK's right hand is still moving downward.
    At frame Z226 JFK suddenly jerks both arms upward.
    At frame Z226 JBC suddenly jerks his right arm upward.
    The FBI never said that.
    The Secret Service never said that.
    The Warren Commission never said that.
    The House Select Committee never said that.
    No witness ever said that.

    None of that addresses the question of whether that is what happened. We can see for
    ourselves that is what happened thanks to enhanced viewing technology which allows us to
    enlarge and stabilize the individual frames. Why don't you address the question of whether
    that is what actually happened rather than falling back on the fact that those clues were
    missed by those who didn't have the advanced viewing technologies we have now. I've asked
    you this before and you have refused to answer because you know the answer doesn't help your cause. Does Connally's right arm suddenly flip upward at Z226, the same frame that JFK's arms
    flip upward. We're not talking about what the FBI saw, what the Secret Service saw, what the WC
    saw, what the HSCA saw, or what any witness saw. I'm asking what you see. Do you deny that
    what I decribed is what happened?

    Connally said he wasn't hit before Z -231.

    Connally was wrong. Connally remembers doubling over after being hit in the back by the bullet.
    He doesn't remember the reflexive and involuntary flip of his right arm which began at Z226 and
    continued for about 9 seconds or roughly a half a second. It is undeniable his right arm did that
    and you refuse to acknowledge that.

    Z-230 shows that to be correct.

    Z226 shows that to be wrong. Z226 shows his right arm flipping upward in reaction to being hit
    by the same bullet that had exited from JFK's throat. Do you think his right arm flipped upward
    in anticipation of being struck by the bullet a quarter of a second later?

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Z230.mp4

    Why do you ignore the actions seen in the critical frames before Z230?

    There's NO EVIDENCE to support that theory. You're the only one IN THE WORLD who claims that they were both hit at Z-226.

    There is ample evidence to support the theory. Why do you misrepresent what I wrote. I have
    never said they were struck at Z226. I said they both REACTED at that frame. They were reacting
    to the bullet that struck at or just before Z224 which is when Connally's coat bulged outward.
    Most believers in the SBT now believe that is when the bullet struck. I am not alone in that belief
    despite your misrepresentation of what I wrote.

    At Parkland hospital, a bullet was found near Connally's stretcher that had been fired by
    Oswald's rifle which had been found on the 6th floor of the TSBD.
    And the people who found it could not identify CE 399 as the bullet they found.

    That doesn't change the fact that the bullet was fired from Oswald's rifle to the exclusion of all
    other weapons in the world and that the chain of custody was properly documented which is all
    that is legally required to establish a chain of custody. It is not a legal requirement that every
    person in the chain be able to positively identify the bullet in question.

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/magic_bullet.jpg

    There is nothing magical about CE399. It did what a high powered , FMJ round could be
    expected to do. It passed through the torsos of two men.

    The medical evidence proved conclusively that a bullet entered JFK's back and exited from
    the center of his throat. Such a bullet could not have missed JBC.
    No bullet track could be found through the body. You can't have a transiting bullet without it leaving a track through the body.

    BOSWELL TESTIMONY TO ARRB 2/26/96, PAGE 128

    Boswell saw a probe go in the back. But it only went in three inches.

    http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?mode=searchResult&absPageId=67709

    http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/arrb/medical_testimony/Boswell_2-26-96/html/Boswell_0065b.htm


    FINCK TESTIMONY TO ARRB, 5/24/96. pg. 92

    Pierre Finck agreed, referring to the probing of the back wound as "unsuccessful".

    http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?mode=searchResult&absPageId=67825

    http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/arrb/medical_testimony/Finck_5-24-96/html/Finck_0009b.htm

    Finck testified that trying to force the probe through the bullet channel can create a false
    passage way which is why they didn't try to force the probe. You also ignore the fact that
    EVERY qualified forensic medical examiner who has reviewed the autopsy evidence has
    concurred with the original autopsy conclusion that a missile struck JFK in his upper back
    and exited from his throat. This includes CT here Dr. Cyril Wecht. Yet when cross examined
    by Bugliosi during the mock trial staged in London, was unable to provide a plausible explanation
    for what happened to the bullet after it exited JFK's throat and looked foolish when he tried.
    You can't cite a single qualified forensic medical examiner who disagrees with the conclusion
    that the bullet passed through JFK's torso from back to front. Instead you do what CTs have
    done for years. You try to substitute your own amateurish opinions for those of people
    qualified to make such judgements.


    There was no metallic residue found on the tie, and for that matter there was no metallic residue found on the shirt at the holes in the front. However, there was in the back. ( 5 H 62 )

    Establish that those items were searched for metal residue and that such residue should have
    been present. If you can't do both those things, your observation is meaningless.

    FINCK TESTIMONY TO WARREN COMMISSION: Too many fragments left in wrist for wound to be caused by CE 399 ( 2 H 382 )

    You love repeating this long believed myth. For this claim to hold water, you would have to
    provide three things. I'll help you with two of them. Give us the weight of an unfired Carcano
    bullet (160.85-161.1 grains). Give us the weight of CE399 (158.6 grains). Give us the total weight of
    the fragments removed from Connally's wrist or recovered elsewhere (you're on you own on this
    one).

    FROM THE EMERGENCY ROOM DOCTORS:

    PARKLAND DOC SAYS THROAT WOUND WAS WOUND OF ENTRY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EQc1nlbRlw

    ER doctors are not trained to distinguish entrance wounds from exit wounds. That requires
    trained forensic medical examiners. A FMJ round is designed not to deform when striking soft
    tissue so it would be expected the exit wound would be small and round like the entrance
    wound. Other features tell trained examiners whether a wound is one of entrance or exit.


    CONNALLY DOC SAYS CE 399 DIDN'T CREATE CONNALLY WOUNDS

    Tell us what his qualifications are and how he determined that..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8PVffA2EGg


    DALLAS REPORTER QUOTES DR. PERRY SAYING THROAT WOUND WAS WOUND OF ENTRY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY5dNpTYWT8

    Already addressed.


    DR. ROBERT LIVINGSTON ON THROAT WOUND

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma8aqkr-0Tg

    Already addressed.

    FROM THE FBI:

    FBI MAN SAYS THERE WAS NO EXIT FOR THE BACK WOUND

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMzhKy-O4T4

    The FBI observer was simply relaying what he overheard at autopsy. The autopsy team was
    initially baffled by the fact they had an entrance, no apparent exit, and no bullet in the body. That
    made no sense to them. The learned later that a tracheotomy incision had been mad over the
    exit wound.

    FROM A WITNESS TO THE SHOOTING:

    SHOOTING WITNESS SAYS SAME BULLET DID NOT HIT BOTH MEN

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfRivH8G9tY

    How the hell would a witness know that?

    So let's sum up:


    NO EVIDENCE of copper on the front of the clothing of President Kennedy

    NO EVIDENCE of copper on the clothing of Governor Connally

    NO EVIDENCE of a bullet track through Kennedy's body according to the autopsists and an FBI man who witnessed the autopsy.

    In addition, the bullet alleged to have gone through both victims contains NO EVIDENCE that it transited the bodies and clothing of either victim due to the fact that it contained no microscopic evidence of any blood or clothing fibers of either victim
    or any bone particles of Governor Connally on it.

    Conspiracy hobbyists ALWAYS ignore the best evidence and resort to silly myths they've heard
    repeated over the course of decades.

    There was no bullet path through Kennedy's body.

    Wrong.

    When the autopsy doctors tried to track the bullet with a probe, the probe only went in 3 inches and stopped.

    There is no reason to expect that a probe would pass through a bullet channel. The alternative
    explanation is that a bullet penetrated only a few inches into JFK's back and then magically
    popped out. That is a completely ludicrous proposition. High powered rifle rounds do not stop
    just a few inches into soft tissue.


    Finally, not one of the Parkland medical witnesses who saw the throat wound described it as a wound of exit, but ALL agreed that the wound was a wound of entry.

    Why do you rely on unqualified people and ignore what ALL the qualified people concluded?

    Let me see you explain these facts without the SBT. We all know you can't do that. You won't
    even try. Nobody else has ever tried either.

    Once again, I've provided you and your nutcase buddies the evidence that you will not accept.
    Please stop asking me to "prove this" and "prove that" when you know that whatever evidence I provide you will just reject.

    What you've provided is a litany of conspiracy myths that were debunked a long time ago. None
    of these claims are valid evidence because they are based on misconceptions and opinions of
    unqualified people. The SBT is supported by real evidence.

    It's a terrible waste of my time and I have so much shit to do.
    Otherwise, I'll have to ignore you assholes and let you accuse me of "running" once again.

    This is Gil signaling his intention to bail out of this thread which is his standard MO when
    presented with facts and evidence he can't refute.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to stevemgalbraith@yahoo.com on Thu Sep 28 10:48:31 2023
    On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 10:18:10 -0700 (PDT), Steven Galbraith <stevemgalbraith@yahoo.com> wrote:

    In conspiracy world it's always 1964 and it's always the Warren
    Commission report.

    I see you're confused. You're referring to your fellow believers.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to geowright1963@gmail.com on Thu Sep 28 10:47:09 2023
    On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 10:10:17 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <geowright1963@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 7:58:57?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 7:20:35?AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:59:28?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:35:20?AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    If you could show the SBT was impossible, you would be a hero among the conspiracy crowd, as it would pretty much destroy the lone nut position. Unfortunately you only have what conspiracy folks have had for
    decades, meaningless noise and hot air.
    Run from this, Chickenshit:

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/reasdoubt1.mp4

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/reasdoubt2.mp4
    Why would anyone run from your silly videos. They contain no evidence that refutes the SBT.
    They are filled with long debunked arguments against the SBT.

    Here are the undeniable facts that you always run from, Gil.
    Why do you ask me to provide you with evidence that you're not going to believe anyways ?
    Why do you ask me to waste my time ?
    At frame Z224, Connally's jacket suddenly bulges outward.
    At frame Z224, JFK and JBC are perfectly aligned for a shot from the sniper's nest.
    From frame Z224 to Z225, JFK's right hand is still moving downward.
    At frame Z226 JFK suddenly jerks both arms upward.
    At frame Z226 JBC suddenly jerks his right arm upward.
    The FBI never said that.
    The Secret Service never said that.
    The Warren Commission never said that.
    The House Select Committee never said that.
    No witness ever said that.

    None of that addresses the question of whether that is what happened.


    Of course it does. It DIRECTLY addresses the truth of what you're
    claiming.

    You lose.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Steven Galbraith@21:1/5 to John Corbett on Thu Sep 28 10:18:10 2023
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 1:10:19 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 7:58:57 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 7:20:35 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:59:28 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:35:20 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    If you could show the SBT was impossible, you would be a hero among the conspiracy crowd, as it would pretty much destroy the lone nut position. Unfortunately you only have what conspiracy folks have had for
    decades, meaningless noise and hot air.
    Run from this, Chickenshit:

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/reasdoubt1.mp4

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/reasdoubt2.mp4
    Why would anyone run from your silly videos. They contain no evidence that refutes the SBT.
    They are filled with long debunked arguments against the SBT.

    Here are the undeniable facts that you always run from, Gil.
    Why do you ask me to provide you with evidence that you're not going to believe anyways ?
    Why do you ask me to waste my time ?
    At frame Z224, Connally's jacket suddenly bulges outward.
    At frame Z224, JFK and JBC are perfectly aligned for a shot from the sniper's nest.
    From frame Z224 to Z225, JFK's right hand is still moving downward.
    At frame Z226 JFK suddenly jerks both arms upward.
    At frame Z226 JBC suddenly jerks his right arm upward.
    The FBI never said that.
    The Secret Service never said that.
    The Warren Commission never said that.
    The House Select Committee never said that.
    No witness ever said that.
    None of that addresses the question of whether that is what happened. We can see for
    ourselves that is what happened thanks to enhanced viewing technology which allows us to
    enlarge and stabilize the individual frames. Why don't you address the question of whether
    that is what actually happened rather than falling back on the fact that those clues were
    missed by those who didn't have the advanced viewing technologies we have now. I've asked
    you this before and you have refused to answer because you know the answer doesn't help your cause. Does Connally's right arm suddenly flip upward at Z226, the same frame that JFK's arms
    flip upward. We're not talking about what the FBI saw, what the Secret Service saw, what the WC
    saw, what the HSCA saw, or what any witness saw. I'm asking what you see. Do you deny that
    what I decribed is what happened?
    Connally said he wasn't hit before Z -231.
    Connally was wrong. Connally remembers doubling over after being hit in the back by the bullet.
    He doesn't remember the reflexive and involuntary flip of his right arm which began at Z226 and
    continued for about 9 seconds or roughly a half a second. It is undeniable his right arm did that
    and you refuse to acknowledge that.
    Z-230 shows that to be correct.
    Z226 shows that to be wrong. Z226 shows his right arm flipping upward in reaction to being hit
    by the same bullet that had exited from JFK's throat. Do you think his right arm flipped upward
    in anticipation of being struck by the bullet a quarter of a second later?

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Z230.mp4

    Why do you ignore the actions seen in the critical frames before Z230?

    There's NO EVIDENCE to support that theory. You're the only one IN THE WORLD who claims that they were both hit at Z-226.
    There is ample evidence to support the theory. Why do you misrepresent what I wrote. I have
    never said they were struck at Z226. I said they both REACTED at that frame. They were reacting
    to the bullet that struck at or just before Z224 which is when Connally's coat bulged outward.
    Most believers in the SBT now believe that is when the bullet struck. I am not alone in that belief
    despite your misrepresentation of what I wrote.
    At Parkland hospital, a bullet was found near Connally's stretcher that had been fired by
    Oswald's rifle which had been found on the 6th floor of the TSBD.
    And the people who found it could not identify CE 399 as the bullet they found.
    That doesn't change the fact that the bullet was fired from Oswald's rifle to the exclusion of all
    other weapons in the world and that the chain of custody was properly documented which is all
    that is legally required to establish a chain of custody. It is not a legal requirement that every
    person in the chain be able to positively identify the bullet in question.

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/magic_bullet.jpg

    There is nothing magical about CE399. It did what a high powered , FMJ round could be
    expected to do. It passed through the torsos of two men.
    The medical evidence proved conclusively that a bullet entered JFK's back and exited from
    the center of his throat. Such a bullet could not have missed JBC.
    No bullet track could be found through the body. You can't have a transiting bullet without it leaving a track through the body.

    BOSWELL TESTIMONY TO ARRB 2/26/96, PAGE 128

    Boswell saw a probe go in the back. But it only went in three inches.

    http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?mode=searchResult&absPageId=67709

    http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/arrb/medical_testimony/Boswell_2-26-96/html/Boswell_0065b.htm


    FINCK TESTIMONY TO ARRB, 5/24/96. pg. 92

    Pierre Finck agreed, referring to the probing of the back wound as "unsuccessful".

    http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?mode=searchResult&absPageId=67825

    http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/arrb/medical_testimony/Finck_5-24-96/html/Finck_0009b.htm

    Finck testified that trying to force the probe through the bullet channel can create a false
    passage way which is why they didn't try to force the probe. You also ignore the fact that
    EVERY qualified forensic medical examiner who has reviewed the autopsy evidence has
    concurred with the original autopsy conclusion that a missile struck JFK in his upper back
    and exited from his throat. This includes CT here Dr. Cyril Wecht. Yet when cross examined
    by Bugliosi during the mock trial staged in London, was unable to provide a plausible explanation
    for what happened to the bullet after it exited JFK's throat and looked foolish when he tried.
    You can't cite a single qualified forensic medical examiner who disagrees with the conclusion
    that the bullet passed through JFK's torso from back to front. Instead you do what CTs have
    done for years. You try to substitute your own amateurish opinions for those of people
    qualified to make such judgements.

    There was no metallic residue found on the tie, and for that matter there was no metallic residue found on the shirt at the holes in the front. However, there was in the back. ( 5 H 62 )

    Establish that those items were searched for metal residue and that such residue should have
    been present. If you can't do both those things, your observation is meaningless.

    FINCK TESTIMONY TO WARREN COMMISSION: Too many fragments left in wrist for wound to be caused by CE 399 ( 2 H 382 )

    You love repeating this long believed myth. For this claim to hold water, you would have to
    provide three things. I'll help you with two of them. Give us the weight of an unfired Carcano
    bullet (160.85-161.1 grains). Give us the weight of CE399 (158.6 grains). Give us the total weight of
    the fragments removed from Connally's wrist or recovered elsewhere (you're on you own on this
    one).

    FROM THE EMERGENCY ROOM DOCTORS:

    PARKLAND DOC SAYS THROAT WOUND WAS WOUND OF ENTRY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EQc1nlbRlw
    ER doctors are not trained to distinguish entrance wounds from exit wounds. That requires
    trained forensic medical examiners. A FMJ round is designed not to deform when striking soft
    tissue so it would be expected the exit wound would be small and round like the entrance
    wound. Other features tell trained examiners whether a wound is one of entrance or exit.


    CONNALLY DOC SAYS CE 399 DIDN'T CREATE CONNALLY WOUNDS
    Tell us what his qualifications are and how he determined that..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8PVffA2EGg


    DALLAS REPORTER QUOTES DR. PERRY SAYING THROAT WOUND WAS WOUND OF ENTRY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY5dNpTYWT8
    Already addressed.


    DR. ROBERT LIVINGSTON ON THROAT WOUND

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma8aqkr-0Tg

    Already addressed.

    FROM THE FBI:

    FBI MAN SAYS THERE WAS NO EXIT FOR THE BACK WOUND

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMzhKy-O4T4
    The FBI observer was simply relaying what he overheard at autopsy. The autopsy team was
    initially baffled by the fact they had an entrance, no apparent exit, and no bullet in the body. That
    made no sense to them. The learned later that a tracheotomy incision had been mad over the
    exit wound.

    FROM A WITNESS TO THE SHOOTING:

    SHOOTING WITNESS SAYS SAME BULLET DID NOT HIT BOTH MEN

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfRivH8G9tY

    How the hell would a witness know that?
    So let's sum up:


    NO EVIDENCE of copper on the front of the clothing of President Kennedy

    NO EVIDENCE of copper on the clothing of Governor Connally

    NO EVIDENCE of a bullet track through Kennedy's body according to the autopsists and an FBI man who witnessed the autopsy.

    In addition, the bullet alleged to have gone through both victims contains NO EVIDENCE that it transited the bodies and clothing of either victim due to the fact that it contained no microscopic evidence of any blood or clothing fibers of either
    victim or any bone particles of Governor Connally on it.
    Conspiracy hobbyists ALWAYS ignore the best evidence and resort to silly myths they've heard
    repeated over the course of decades.

    There was no bullet path through Kennedy's body.
    Wrong.
    When the autopsy doctors tried to track the bullet with a probe, the probe only went in 3 inches and stopped.
    There is no reason to expect that a probe would pass through a bullet channel. The alternative
    explanation is that a bullet penetrated only a few inches into JFK's back and then magically
    popped out. That is a completely ludicrous proposition. High powered rifle rounds do not stop
    just a few inches into soft tissue.

    Finally, not one of the Parkland medical witnesses who saw the throat wound described it as a wound of exit, but ALL agreed that the wound was a wound of entry.
    Why do you rely on unqualified people and ignore what ALL the qualified people concluded?
    Let me see you explain these facts without the SBT. We all know you can't do that. You won't
    even try. Nobody else has ever tried either.

    Once again, I've provided you and your nutcase buddies the evidence that you will not accept.
    Please stop asking me to "prove this" and "prove that" when you know that whatever evidence I provide you will just reject.
    What you've provided is a litany of conspiracy myths that were debunked a long time ago. None
    of these claims are valid evidence because they are based on misconceptions and opinions of
    unqualified people. The SBT is supported by real evidence.
    It's a terrible waste of my time and I have so much shit to do.
    Otherwise, I'll have to ignore you assholes and let you accuse me of "running" once again.
    This is Gil signaling his intention to bail out of this thread which is his standard MO when
    presented with facts and evidence he can't refute.
    In conspiracy world it's always 1964 and it's always the Warren Commission report. All of these other investigations, all of this other evidence is ignored. Because it demolishes their conspiracy claims. Modern techniques of digitized photos and films *
    should* uncover the conspiracy, should expose the manipulation of evidence, should support two shooters. But it always undermines their claims and never supports them. Which is why it always has to be 1964 for them.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bud@21:1/5 to NoTrueFlags Here on Thu Sep 28 11:31:47 2023
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 7:21:02 AM UTC-4, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:35:20 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 9:30:31 PM UTC-4, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 9:18:56 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 8:45:39 PM UTC-4, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 7:13:27 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

    Why?

    Did you say something, Little Bud? I thought you were ignoring me. Yes, the eternal question, "Why?" Tell me why the stars do shine. Tell me why the sky is blue. Tell me why you cried, and why you lie ie ied to me? Tell me why. These
    philosophical moments really are what make the Nut House so very special.
    I never really thought
    Exactly.
    If you could show the SBT was impossible, you would be a hero among the conspiracy crowd, as it would pretty much destroy the lone nut position. Unfortunately you only have what conspiracy folks have had for decades, meaningless noise and hot air.
    It has been shown repeatedly,

    Where?

    which just proves the old adage, "You can show something to a horse's ass, but you can't make him see."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Thu Sep 28 11:33:56 2023
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:59:28 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:35:20 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    If you could show the SBT was impossible, you would be a hero among the conspiracy crowd, as it would pretty much destroy the lone nut position. Unfortunately you only have what conspiracy folks have had for
    decades, meaningless noise and hot air.
    Run from this, Chickenshit:

    Make your arguments here, I look at them and see if they have merit or whether you are looking at the wrong things incorrectly.

    I do it free, you should take advantage of my generosity.

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/reasdoubt1.mp4

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/reasdoubt2.mp4

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 11:39:17 2023
    On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 11:33:56 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirslick@fast.net>
    wrote:


    So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
    "virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?

    Chickenshit is TERRIFIED of this simple honest question. He knows
    that Bugliosi was a moron if he truly thought this... yet you can't
    get Chickenshit to publicly acknowledge that Bugliosi said this.

    It's a simple "Yes" or "No" question, and Chickenshit cannot cite
    where he has EVER answered it. (Without immediately denying it.)

    So it's going to keep getting asked until Chickenshit answers it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Thu Sep 28 11:40:34 2023
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 11:39:56 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 11:17:16 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    Sadly, Corbuttt will never retract his lies, or admit that his talking points have been refuted with evidence.
    They're all like that.
    You can show them all the evidence in world that the WC was wrong and they just deny it.
    Then they make up excuses for denying it like, "you're looking at the wrong things incorrectly".
    ROFLMAO
    What the fuck does that even mean ?

    The concept is spelled out using common words.

    That it's possible to look at the wrong things correctly ?

    Of course. By correctly designating them to be the wrong things.

    Or the right things incorrectly ?

    Of course. Even when conspiracy hobbyists do look at the right things they often do so incorrectly.

    ROFLMAO

    Are you laughing because you don`t know the obvious answers to the questions you asked?

    If this is the best .john left the world to carry on his legacy, he must be rolling over in his grave.
    You're right, they are a sad bunch.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 13:03:41 2023
    On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 11:40:34 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirslick@fast.net>
    wrote:


    So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
    "virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?

    Chickenshit is TERRIFIED of this simple honest question. He knows
    that Bugliosi was a moron if he truly thought this... yet you can't
    get Chickenshit to publicly acknowledge that Bugliosi said this.

    It's a simple "Yes" or "No" question, and Chickenshit cannot cite
    where he has EVER answered it. (Without immediately denying it.)

    So it's going to keep getting asked until Chickenshit answers it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Steven Galbraith on Fri Sep 29 15:11:44 2023
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 1:18:11 PM UTC-4, Steven Galbraith wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 1:10:19 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 7:58:57 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:


    It's a terrible waste of my time and I have so much shit to do. Otherwise, I'll have to ignore you assholes and let you accuse me of "running" once again.
    This is Gil signaling his intention to bail out of this thread which is his standard MO when
    presented with facts and evidence he can't refute.
    In conspiracy world it's always 1964 and it's always the Warren Commission report. All of these other investigations, all of this other evidence is ignored. Because it demolishes their conspiracy claims. Modern techniques of digitized photos and films *
    should* uncover the conspiracy, should expose the manipulation of evidence, should support two shooters. But it always undermines their claims and never supports them. Which is why it always has to be 1964 for them.

    This proved to be a very easy prediction. Gil, is well known for his drive-by posts that he won't
    stick around to defend. He'll make arguments based on speculation, assumptions, and myths,
    then after we expose the weaknesses of his arguments by treating them like a pinata, Gil
    disappears and posts in another thread where the process gets repeated.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to geowright1963@gmail.com on Fri Sep 29 15:30:20 2023
    On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 15:11:44 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <geowright1963@gmail.com> wrote:

    This proved to be a very easy prediction. Gil, is well known for his drive-by posts that he won't
    stick around to defend. He'll make arguments based on speculation, assumptions, and myths,
    then after we expose the weaknesses of his arguments by treating them like a pinata, Gil
    disappears and posts in another thread where the process gets repeated.

    What's the name of the world you live on?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Fri Sep 29 18:05:13 2023
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 6:30:29 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 15:11:44 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
    <geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:

    This proved to be a very easy prediction. Gil, is well known for his drive-by posts that he won't
    stick around to defend. He'll make arguments based on speculation, assumptions, and myths,
    then after we expose the weaknesses of his arguments by treating them like a pinata, Gil
    disappears and posts in another thread where the process gets repeated. What's the name of the world you live on?

    Reality.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoTrueFlags Here@21:1/5 to Bud on Fri Sep 29 21:44:04 2023
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:05:15 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 6:30:29 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 15:11:44 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:

    This proved to be a very easy prediction. Gil, is well known for his drive-by posts that he won't
    stick around to defend. He'll make arguments based on speculation, assumptions, and myths,
    then after we expose the weaknesses of his arguments by treating them like a pinata, Gil
    disappears and posts in another thread where the process gets repeated. What's the name of the world you live on?
    Reality.

    Bud, on "Planet Reality," is the stupidest Nutter of them all. But Corbett is hot on his heels, so he can't let up for one second.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 2 08:05:05 2023
    On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 18:05:13 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirslick@fast.net>
    wrote:


    So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
    "virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?

    Chickenshit is TERRIFIED of this simple honest question. He knows
    that Bugliosi was a moron if he truly thought this... yet you can't
    get Chickenshit to publicly acknowledge that Bugliosi said this.

    It's a simple "Yes" or "No" question, and Chickenshit cannot cite
    where he has EVER answered it. (Without immediately denying it.)

    So it's going to keep getting asked until Chickenshit answers it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)