• In the days leading up to the Kennedy assassination, did the Dallas aut

    From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 25 23:42:43 2023
    According to Chatbot BARD:



    Yes, the Dallas authorities did receive some tipoffs in the days leading up to the Kennedy assassination.

    On November 21, 1963, the Dallas Police Department received a phone call from a woman who warned that there was a plot to assassinate the President. The woman claimed that the plot was being hatched by a group of Cubans and anti-Castro extremists.

    On the same day, the Secret Service received a report from a man who claimed that he had overheard a conversation between two men who were planning to assassinate the President. The man said that the two men were planning to shoot the President from a
    rooftop overlooking the motorcade route.

    On the morning of the assassination, the Dallas Police Department received a phone call from a man who warned that the President was in danger. The man claimed that he had heard a group of men talking about a plan to assassinate the President, and that
    they were armed with rifles.

    The Secret Service investigated all of these tipoffs, but they were unable to find any credible evidence to support them. As a result, the Secret Service did not take any special security precautions on the day of the assassination.

    In addition to the tipoffs that were received by the Dallas authorities, there were also a number of anonymous threats made against President Kennedy in the days leading up to the assassination. These threats were made in phone calls, letters, and
    telegrams. The Secret Service investigated all of these threats, but they were unable to identify the people who had made them.

    It is important to note that none of the tipoffs or threats that were received by the Dallas authorities were specifically about Lee Harvey Oswald. Oswald was not a known threat to the President, and he was not on the Secret Service's radar.

    In the aftermath of the assassination, there was much criticism of the Dallas authorities for failing to take the tipoffs and threats more seriously. However, it is important to remember that the Secret Service was responsible for the President's
    security, and they were the ones who ultimately decided to take no special security precautions on the day of the assassination.

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  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to gggg gggg on Tue Sep 26 02:07:02 2023
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 2:42:45 AM UTC-4, gggg gggg wrote:
    According to Chatbot BARD:



    Yes, the Dallas authorities did receive some tipoffs in the days leading up to the Kennedy assassination.

    On November 21, 1963, the Dallas Police Department received a phone call from a woman who warned that there was a plot to assassinate the President. The woman claimed that the plot was being hatched by a group of Cubans and anti-Castro extremists.

    On the same day, the Secret Service received a report from a man who claimed that he had overheard a conversation between two men who were planning to assassinate the President. The man said that the two men were planning to shoot the President from a
    rooftop overlooking the motorcade route.

    On the morning of the assassination, the Dallas Police Department received a phone call from a man who warned that the President was in danger. The man claimed that he had heard a group of men talking about a plan to assassinate the President, and that
    they were armed with rifles.

    The Secret Service investigated all of these tipoffs, but they were unable to find any credible evidence to support them. As a result, the Secret Service did not take any special security precautions on the day of the assassination.

    In addition to the tipoffs that were received by the Dallas authorities, there were also a number of anonymous threats made against President Kennedy in the days leading up to the assassination. These threats were made in phone calls, letters, and
    telegrams. The Secret Service investigated all of these threats, but they were unable to identify the people who had made them.

    It is important to note that none of the tipoffs or threats that were received by the Dallas authorities were specifically about Lee Harvey Oswald. Oswald was not a known threat to the President, and he was not on the Secret Service's radar.

    In the aftermath of the assassination, there was much criticism of the Dallas authorities for failing to take the tipoffs and threats more seriously. However, it is important to remember that the Secret Service was responsible for the President's
    security, and they were the ones who ultimately decided to take no special security precautions on the day of the assassination.

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/rothermel-warns-FBI-and-DPD-of-violence.png

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to gggg gggg on Tue Sep 26 03:18:27 2023
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 2:42:45 AM UTC-4, gggg gggg wrote:
    According to Chatbot BARD:



    Yes, the Dallas authorities did receive some tipoffs in the days leading up to the Kennedy assassination.

    On November 21, 1963, the Dallas Police Department received a phone call from a woman who warned that there was a plot to assassinate the President. The woman claimed that the plot was being hatched by a group of Cubans and anti-Castro extremists.

    On the same day, the Secret Service received a report from a man who claimed that he had overheard a conversation between two men who were planning to assassinate the President. The man said that the two men were planning to shoot the President from a
    rooftop overlooking the motorcade route.

    On the morning of the assassination, the Dallas Police Department received a phone call from a man who warned that the President was in danger. The man claimed that he had heard a group of men talking about a plan to assassinate the President, and that
    they were armed with rifles.

    The Secret Service investigated all of these tipoffs, but they were unable to find any credible evidence to support them. As a result, the Secret Service did not take any special security precautions on the day of the assassination.

    In addition to the tipoffs that were received by the Dallas authorities, there were also a number of anonymous threats made against President Kennedy in the days leading up to the assassination. These threats were made in phone calls, letters, and
    telegrams. The Secret Service investigated all of these threats, but they were unable to identify the people who had made them.

    It is important to note that none of the tipoffs or threats that were received by the Dallas authorities were specifically about Lee Harvey Oswald. Oswald was not a known threat to the President, and he was not on the Secret Service's radar.

    In the aftermath of the assassination, there was much criticism of the Dallas authorities for failing to take the tipoffs and threats more seriously. However, it is important to remember that the Secret Service was responsible for the President's
    security, and they were the ones who ultimately decided to take no special security precautions on the day of the assassination.

    Threats to assassinate presidents are received frequently. They are almost always idle threats
    from crackpots but the Secret Service takes them all seriously. It is a federal crime to threaten
    a president. It is hardly significant that there were threats prior to the assassination of JFK
    since such threats are commonplace. They occur in the thousands for all presidents.

    https://www.robertreeveslaw.com/blog/assassination-threats/ https://www.historyonthenet.com/threats-against-the-president

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  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to John Corbett on Tue Sep 26 04:40:10 2023
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 6:18:29 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    Threats to assassinate presidents are received frequently. They are almost always idle threats
    from crackpots..... It is hardly significant that there were threats prior to the assassination of JFK
    since such threats are commonplace. They occur in the thousands for all presidents.

    And how many of those Presidents were assassinated after receiving those "hardly significant" threats ?

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  • From NoTrueFlags Here@21:1/5 to gggg gggg on Tue Sep 26 04:56:13 2023
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 2:42:45 AM UTC-4, gggg gggg wrote:
    According to Chatbot BARD:



    Yes, the Dallas authorities did receive some tipoffs in the days leading up to the Kennedy assassination.

    On November 21, 1963, the Dallas Police Department received a phone call from a woman who warned that there was a plot to assassinate the President. The woman claimed that the plot was being hatched by a group of Cubans and anti-Castro extremists.

    On the same day, the Secret Service received a report from a man who claimed that he had overheard a conversation between two men who were planning to assassinate the President. The man said that the two men were planning to shoot the President from a
    rooftop overlooking the motorcade route.

    On the morning of the assassination, the Dallas Police Department received a phone call from a man who warned that the President was in danger. The man claimed that he had heard a group of men talking about a plan to assassinate the President, and that
    they were armed with rifles.

    The Secret Service investigated all of these tipoffs, but they were unable to find any credible evidence to support them. As a result, the Secret Service did not take any special security precautions on the day of the assassination.

    In addition to the tipoffs that were received by the Dallas authorities, there were also a number of anonymous threats made against President Kennedy in the days leading up to the assassination. These threats were made in phone calls, letters, and
    telegrams. The Secret Service investigated all of these threats, but they were unable to identify the people who had made them.

    It is important to note that none of the tipoffs or threats that were received by the Dallas authorities were specifically about Lee Harvey Oswald. Oswald was not a known threat to the President, and he was not on the Secret Service's radar.

    In the aftermath of the assassination, there was much criticism of the Dallas authorities for failing to take the tipoffs and threats more seriously. However, it is important to remember that the Secret Service was responsible for the President's
    security, and they were the ones who ultimately decided to take no special security precautions on the day of the assassination.

    Exactly. The Secret Service is responsible. They might as well have shot him themselves, and altered his body on AF1 and covered up everything real good and tight.

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to NoTrueFlags Here on Tue Sep 26 05:04:10 2023
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 4:56:15 AM UTC-7, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 2:42:45 AM UTC-4, gggg gggg wrote:
    According to Chatbot BARD:



    Yes, the Dallas authorities did receive some tipoffs in the days leading up to the Kennedy assassination.

    On November 21, 1963, the Dallas Police Department received a phone call from a woman who warned that there was a plot to assassinate the President. The woman claimed that the plot was being hatched by a group of Cubans and anti-Castro extremists.

    On the same day, the Secret Service received a report from a man who claimed that he had overheard a conversation between two men who were planning to assassinate the President. The man said that the two men were planning to shoot the President from
    a rooftop overlooking the motorcade route.

    On the morning of the assassination, the Dallas Police Department received a phone call from a man who warned that the President was in danger. The man claimed that he had heard a group of men talking about a plan to assassinate the President, and
    that they were armed with rifles.

    The Secret Service investigated all of these tipoffs, but they were unable to find any credible evidence to support them. As a result, the Secret Service did not take any special security precautions on the day of the assassination.

    In addition to the tipoffs that were received by the Dallas authorities, there were also a number of anonymous threats made against President Kennedy in the days leading up to the assassination. These threats were made in phone calls, letters, and
    telegrams. The Secret Service investigated all of these threats, but they were unable to identify the people who had made them.

    It is important to note that none of the tipoffs or threats that were received by the Dallas authorities were specifically about Lee Harvey Oswald. Oswald was not a known threat to the President, and he was not on the Secret Service's radar.

    In the aftermath of the assassination, there was much criticism of the Dallas authorities for failing to take the tipoffs and threats more seriously. However, it is important to remember that the Secret Service was responsible for the President's
    security, and they were the ones who ultimately decided to take no special security precautions on the day of the assassination.
    Exactly. The Secret Service is responsible. They might as well have shot him themselves, and altered his body on AF1 and covered up everything real good and tight.

    Isn't that what George Hickey is all about?

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  • From NoTrueFlags Here@21:1/5 to gggg gggg on Tue Sep 26 05:13:19 2023
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 8:04:12 AM UTC-4, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 4:56:15 AM UTC-7, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 2:42:45 AM UTC-4, gggg gggg wrote:
    According to Chatbot BARD:



    Yes, the Dallas authorities did receive some tipoffs in the days leading up to the Kennedy assassination.

    On November 21, 1963, the Dallas Police Department received a phone call from a woman who warned that there was a plot to assassinate the President. The woman claimed that the plot was being hatched by a group of Cubans and anti-Castro extremists.

    On the same day, the Secret Service received a report from a man who claimed that he had overheard a conversation between two men who were planning to assassinate the President. The man said that the two men were planning to shoot the President
    from a rooftop overlooking the motorcade route.

    On the morning of the assassination, the Dallas Police Department received a phone call from a man who warned that the President was in danger. The man claimed that he had heard a group of men talking about a plan to assassinate the President, and
    that they were armed with rifles.

    The Secret Service investigated all of these tipoffs, but they were unable to find any credible evidence to support them. As a result, the Secret Service did not take any special security precautions on the day of the assassination.

    In addition to the tipoffs that were received by the Dallas authorities, there were also a number of anonymous threats made against President Kennedy in the days leading up to the assassination. These threats were made in phone calls, letters, and
    telegrams. The Secret Service investigated all of these threats, but they were unable to identify the people who had made them.

    It is important to note that none of the tipoffs or threats that were received by the Dallas authorities were specifically about Lee Harvey Oswald. Oswald was not a known threat to the President, and he was not on the Secret Service's radar.

    In the aftermath of the assassination, there was much criticism of the Dallas authorities for failing to take the tipoffs and threats more seriously. However, it is important to remember that the Secret Service was responsible for the President's
    security, and they were the ones who ultimately decided to take no special security precautions on the day of the assassination.
    Exactly. The Secret Service is responsible. They might as well have shot him themselves, and altered his body on AF1 and covered up everything real good and tight.
    Isn't that what George Hickey is all about?
    Hickey? There's theory about him?

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to NoTrueFlags Here on Tue Sep 26 05:18:09 2023
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 5:13:21 AM UTC-7, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 8:04:12 AM UTC-4, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 4:56:15 AM UTC-7, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 2:42:45 AM UTC-4, gggg gggg wrote:
    According to Chatbot BARD:



    Yes, the Dallas authorities did receive some tipoffs in the days leading up to the Kennedy assassination.

    On November 21, 1963, the Dallas Police Department received a phone call from a woman who warned that there was a plot to assassinate the President. The woman claimed that the plot was being hatched by a group of Cubans and anti-Castro extremists.


    On the same day, the Secret Service received a report from a man who claimed that he had overheard a conversation between two men who were planning to assassinate the President. The man said that the two men were planning to shoot the President
    from a rooftop overlooking the motorcade route.

    On the morning of the assassination, the Dallas Police Department received a phone call from a man who warned that the President was in danger. The man claimed that he had heard a group of men talking about a plan to assassinate the President,
    and that they were armed with rifles.

    The Secret Service investigated all of these tipoffs, but they were unable to find any credible evidence to support them. As a result, the Secret Service did not take any special security precautions on the day of the assassination.

    In addition to the tipoffs that were received by the Dallas authorities, there were also a number of anonymous threats made against President Kennedy in the days leading up to the assassination. These threats were made in phone calls, letters,
    and telegrams. The Secret Service investigated all of these threats, but they were unable to identify the people who had made them.

    It is important to note that none of the tipoffs or threats that were received by the Dallas authorities were specifically about Lee Harvey Oswald. Oswald was not a known threat to the President, and he was not on the Secret Service's radar.

    In the aftermath of the assassination, there was much criticism of the Dallas authorities for failing to take the tipoffs and threats more seriously. However, it is important to remember that the Secret Service was responsible for the President's
    security, and they were the ones who ultimately decided to take no special security precautions on the day of the assassination.
    Exactly. The Secret Service is responsible. They might as well have shot him themselves, and altered his body on AF1 and covered up everything real good and tight.
    Isn't that what George Hickey is all about?
    Hickey? There's theory about him?

    https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/4MTTpC9Teag

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Tue Sep 26 05:40:23 2023
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 7:40:12 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 6:18:29 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    Threats to assassinate presidents are received frequently. They are almost always idle threats
    from crackpots..... It is hardly significant that there were threats prior to the assassination of JFK
    since such threats are commonplace. They occur in the thousands for all presidents.
    And how many of those Presidents were assassinated after receiving those "hardly significant" threats ?

    Wow, you really can`t think. If it commonly happens then there isn`t necessarily any correlation.

    If there was a plot that so many people got wind of don`t you think it would have unraveled decades ago, probably before it was even attempted?

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  • From NoTrueFlags Here@21:1/5 to gggg gggg on Tue Sep 26 05:31:12 2023
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 8:18:11 AM UTC-4, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 5:13:21 AM UTC-7, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 8:04:12 AM UTC-4, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 4:56:15 AM UTC-7, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 2:42:45 AM UTC-4, gggg gggg wrote:
    According to Chatbot BARD:



    Yes, the Dallas authorities did receive some tipoffs in the days leading up to the Kennedy assassination.

    On November 21, 1963, the Dallas Police Department received a phone call from a woman who warned that there was a plot to assassinate the President. The woman claimed that the plot was being hatched by a group of Cubans and anti-Castro
    extremists.

    On the same day, the Secret Service received a report from a man who claimed that he had overheard a conversation between two men who were planning to assassinate the President. The man said that the two men were planning to shoot the President
    from a rooftop overlooking the motorcade route.

    On the morning of the assassination, the Dallas Police Department received a phone call from a man who warned that the President was in danger. The man claimed that he had heard a group of men talking about a plan to assassinate the President,
    and that they were armed with rifles.

    The Secret Service investigated all of these tipoffs, but they were unable to find any credible evidence to support them. As a result, the Secret Service did not take any special security precautions on the day of the assassination.

    In addition to the tipoffs that were received by the Dallas authorities, there were also a number of anonymous threats made against President Kennedy in the days leading up to the assassination. These threats were made in phone calls, letters,
    and telegrams. The Secret Service investigated all of these threats, but they were unable to identify the people who had made them.

    It is important to note that none of the tipoffs or threats that were received by the Dallas authorities were specifically about Lee Harvey Oswald. Oswald was not a known threat to the President, and he was not on the Secret Service's radar.

    In the aftermath of the assassination, there was much criticism of the Dallas authorities for failing to take the tipoffs and threats more seriously. However, it is important to remember that the Secret Service was responsible for the President'
    s security, and they were the ones who ultimately decided to take no special security precautions on the day of the assassination.
    Exactly. The Secret Service is responsible. They might as well have shot him themselves, and altered his body on AF1 and covered up everything real good and tight.
    Isn't that what George Hickey is all about?
    Hickey? There's theory about him?
    https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/4MTTpC9Teag

    Well, I'll be dipped in horse shit! And Wikipedia takes it seriously, too! Case closed, I guess.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 26 08:04:29 2023
    On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 05:40:23 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirslick@fast.net>
    wrote:


    So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
    "virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?

    Chickenshit is TERRIFIED of this simple honest question. He knows
    that Bugliosi was a moron if he truly thought this... yet you can't
    get Chickenshit to publicly acknowledge that Bugliosi said this.

    It's a simple "Yes" or "No" question, and Chickenshit cannot cite
    where he has EVER answered it. (Without immediately denying it.)

    So it's going to keep getting asked until Chickenshit answers it.

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Tue Sep 26 15:23:54 2023
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 7:40:12 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 6:18:29 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    Threats to assassinate presidents are received frequently. They are almost always idle threats
    from crackpots..... It is hardly significant that there were threats prior to the assassination of JFK
    since such threats are commonplace. They occur in the thousands for all presidents.
    And how many of those Presidents were assassinated after receiving those "hardly significant" threats ?

    A better question would be how many of those thousands of threats actually preceded an
    assassination?

    I'm not the least bit surprised the point sailed right over your chrome dome. Since threats
    against any president are commonplace and were even before JFK became president, the fact
    that threats happened to be made when a presidential assassination actually took place does
    not establish either a correlation or causation. They are simply coincidental. Unless the threats
    were specific enough they could be tied to the act itself, or there is other evidence to connect
    the threats to the assassination, there is no reason to believe the threats were connected in any
    way to the actual assassination.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to geowright1963@gmail.com on Tue Sep 26 15:34:13 2023
    On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 15:23:54 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <geowright1963@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 7:40:12?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 6:18:29?AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    Threats to assassinate presidents are received frequently. They are almost always idle threats
    from crackpots..... It is hardly significant that there were threats prior to the assassination of JFK
    since such threats are commonplace. They occur in the thousands for all presidents.
    And how many of those Presidents were assassinated after receiving those "hardly significant" threats ?

    A better question would be...


    Believers are good at asking questions... it's answering them that
    they have problems with...

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Tue Sep 26 15:53:21 2023
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 6:34:21 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 15:23:54 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
    <geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 7:40:12?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 6:18:29?AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote: >>> Threats to assassinate presidents are received frequently. They are almost always idle threats
    from crackpots..... It is hardly significant that there were threats prior to the assassination of JFK
    since such threats are commonplace. They occur in the thousands for all presidents.
    And how many of those Presidents were assassinated after receiving those "hardly significant" threats ?

    A better question would be...


    Believers are good at

    reasoning.

    asking questions... it's answering them that
    they have problems with...

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 26 15:57:56 2023
    On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 15:53:21 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirslick@fast.net>
    wrote:


    So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
    "virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?

    Chickenshit is TERRIFIED of this simple honest question. He knows
    that Bugliosi was a moron if he truly thought this... yet you can't
    get Chickenshit to publicly acknowledge that Bugliosi said this.

    It's a simple "Yes" or "No" question, and Chickenshit cannot cite
    where he has EVER answered it. (Without immediately denying it.)

    So it's going to keep getting asked until Chickenshit answers it.

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to John Corbett on Tue Sep 26 16:11:51 2023
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 6:23:56 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 7:40:12 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 6:18:29 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    Threats to assassinate presidents are received frequently. They are almost always idle threats
    from crackpots..... It is hardly significant that there were threats prior to the assassination of JFK
    since such threats are commonplace. They occur in the thousands for all presidents.
    And how many of those Presidents were assassinated after receiving those "hardly significant" threats ?
    A better question would be how many of those thousands of threats actually preceded an
    assassination?

    I'm not the least bit surprised the point sailed right over your chrome dome. Since threats
    against any president are commonplace and were even before JFK became president, the fact
    that threats happened to be made when a presidential assassination actually took place does
    not establish either a correlation or causation. They are simply coincidental. Unless the threats
    were specific enough they could be tied to the act itself, or there is other evidence to connect
    the threats to the assassination, there is no reason to believe the threats were connected in any
    way to the actual assassination.

    Reasoning is something conspiracy hobbyists in general are bad at, and Gil Jesus specifically.

    I`m sure this from the original post didn`t show on his radar...

    "The Secret Service investigated all of these tipoffs, but they were unable to find any credible evidence to support them."

    "tipoffs" of course, is begged.

    If someone hears a rumor about a plot to kill Kennedy and reports it to authorities, unless that person can provide some useable information, it isn`t a lead, it can`t go anywhere. If someone says "I overheard two guys talking about killing Kennedy",
    what are they doing to do with that? "One was tall one was short, one had a blue shirt on, ect" You can`t go anywhere with this, but conspiracy addicts think it is a destination by itself.
    What if the person misheard or misconstrued the discussion? Maybe they were just blowing hot air. If somebody was motivated before the assassination to contact them about a threat they got wind of, they would be doubly motivated to come forward
    afterwards with anything useful they could provide. But leads have to go somewhere, and that these things went nowhere speaks volumes.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 26 16:17:08 2023
    On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 16:11:51 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirslick@fast.net>
    wrote:


    So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
    "virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?

    Chickenshit is TERRIFIED of this simple honest question. He knows
    that Bugliosi was a moron if he truly thought this... yet you can't
    get Chickenshit to publicly acknowledge that Bugliosi said this.

    It's a simple "Yes" or "No" question, and Chickenshit cannot cite
    where he has EVER answered it. (Without immediately denying it.)

    So it's going to keep getting asked until Chickenshit answers it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Bud on Tue Sep 26 19:29:33 2023
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 7:11:52 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 6:23:56 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 7:40:12 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 6:18:29 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    Threats to assassinate presidents are received frequently. They are almost always idle threats
    from crackpots..... It is hardly significant that there were threats prior to the assassination of JFK
    since such threats are commonplace. They occur in the thousands for all presidents.
    And how many of those Presidents were assassinated after receiving those "hardly significant" threats ?
    A better question would be how many of those thousands of threats actually preceded an
    assassination?

    I'm not the least bit surprised the point sailed right over your chrome dome. Since threats
    against any president are commonplace and were even before JFK became president, the fact
    that threats happened to be made when a presidential assassination actually took place does
    not establish either a correlation or causation. They are simply coincidental. Unless the threats
    were specific enough they could be tied to the act itself, or there is other evidence to connect
    the threats to the assassination, there is no reason to believe the threats were connected in any
    way to the actual assassination.
    Reasoning is something conspiracy hobbyists in general are bad at, and Gil Jesus specifically.

    I`m sure this from the original post didn`t show on his radar...
    "The Secret Service investigated all of these tipoffs, but they were unable to find any credible evidence to support them."
    "tipoffs" of course, is begged.

    If someone hears a rumor about a plot to kill Kennedy and reports it to authorities, unless that person can provide some useable information, it isn`t a lead, it can`t go anywhere. If someone says "I overheard two guys talking about killing Kennedy",
    what are they doing to do with that? "One was tall one was short, one had a blue shirt on, ect" You can`t go anywhere with this, but conspiracy addicts think it is a destination by itself.
    What if the person misheard or misconstrued the discussion? Maybe they were just blowing hot air. If somebody was motivated before the assassination to contact them about a threat they got wind of, they would be doubly motivated to come forward
    afterwards with anything useful they could provide. But leads have to go somewhere, and that these things went nowhere speaks volumes.

    When Obama was first elected, on another discussion board I participate in, predictions of his
    assassination were running rampant. One guy went so far as to say there were militia groups
    who could easily take out a Secret Service protection detail. A friend of mine even bet me $20
    that Obama would be assassinated in the first 6 months (he welched). The point is, all
    presidents have people who hate their guts and are predicting their demise. Some go so far as
    to make actual threats, which can land one in jail if authorities can figure out who did it. In my
    70+ years there has been one presidential assassination and four failed attempts. There have
    been plots that were uncovered before they could be carried out. There have been two attempts
    to assassinate presidential candidates, one successful, the other leaving the candidate crippled.
    All of these acts together are just a tiny fraction of threats and warnings the Secret Service
    routinely investigates. That means the threats are almost all idle threats with no intention of
    being carried out. Just because there's smoke doesn't mean there's fire.

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  • From Chuck Schuyler@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Tue Sep 26 21:36:15 2023
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 6:40:12 AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 6:18:29 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    Threats to assassinate presidents are received frequently. They are almost always idle threats
    from crackpots..... It is hardly significant that there were threats prior to the assassination of JFK
    since such threats are commonplace. They occur in the thousands for all presidents.

    And how many of those Presidents were assassinated after receiving those "hardly significant" threats ?

    Since JFK, there thankfully haven't been any successful POTUS assassinations, but ALL Presidents receive threats against their lives. Even former Presidents are not immune from threats against them. Remember the plot against George H.W. Bush after he
    left office?

    https://oig.justice.gov/sites/default/files/archive/special/9704a/05bush2.htm

    George W. Bush had a plot to kill him exposed this year. And the guy was arrested:

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ohio-man-charged-plot-assassinate-president-george-bush/story?id=84940149#:~:text=Bus...-,An%20Ohio%20man%20was%20charged%20with%20aiding%20and%20abetting%20a,early%20Tuesday%20by%20the%20FBI.

    The Iranians reportedly have a "hit" team trying to get Trump:

    https://www.thedefensepost.com/2023/02/26/iran-kill-trump/?expand_article=1

    We probably only learn of a fraction of the attempts against Presidents.



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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Chuck Schuyler on Wed Sep 27 03:36:26 2023
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 12:36:16 AM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 6:40:12 AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 6:18:29 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    Threats to assassinate presidents are received frequently. They are almost always idle threats
    from crackpots..... It is hardly significant that there were threats prior to the assassination of JFK
    since such threats are commonplace. They occur in the thousands for all presidents.

    And how many of those Presidents were assassinated after receiving those "hardly significant" threats ?
    Since JFK, there thankfully haven't been any successful POTUS assassinations, but ALL Presidents receive threats against their lives. Even former Presidents are not immune from threats against them. Remember the plot against George H.W. Bush after he
    left office?

    https://oig.justice.gov/sites/default/files/archive/special/9704a/05bush2.htm

    George W. Bush had a plot to kill him exposed this year. And the guy was arrested:

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ohio-man-charged-plot-assassinate-president-george-bush/story?id=84940149#:~:text=Bus...-,An%20Ohio%20man%20was%20charged%20with%20aiding%20and%20abetting%20a,early%20Tuesday%20by%20the%20FBI.

    The Iranians reportedly have a "hit" team trying to get Trump:

    https://www.thedefensepost.com/2023/02/26/iran-kill-trump/?expand_article=1

    We probably only learn of a fraction of the attempts against Presidents.

    If for some reason Oswald couldn`t make his attempt (people near where he hid the rifle, lost some parts putting the rifle together or taking it apart, people in or near the SN, ect (tm)) then we might not ever known the name "Lee Harvey Oswald". But
    he probably would have done something else, hijacked a plane, made a different attempt on someone else (or Kennedy again). Seems unlikely that had he failed this time he would have said "I guess just not cut out for assassination".

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 27 06:32:31 2023
    On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 03:36:26 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirslick@fast.net>
    wrote:


    So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
    "virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?

    Chickenshit is TERRIFIED of this simple honest question. He knows
    that Bugliosi was a moron if he truly thought this... yet you can't
    get Chickenshit to publicly acknowledge that Bugliosi said this.

    It's a simple "Yes" or "No" question, and Chickenshit cannot cite
    where he has EVER answered it. (Without immediately denying it.)

    So it's going to keep getting asked until Chickenshit answers it.

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