• Provable Lies Of The Warren Commission - #21 - Just For Cowards Corbutt

    From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 19 07:07:42 2023
    "One employee, Jack Dougherty, believed that he saw Oswald coming to
    work, but he does not remember that Oswald had anything in his hands
    as he entered the door." (WCR 133)

    Let's examine the actual testimony to see if the Warren Commission
    accurately rendered it:

    Mr. BALL - Did you see him come in the door?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes; I saw him when he first come in the door--yes.
    Mr. BALL - Did he have anything in his hands or arms?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, not that I could see of.
    ...
    Mr. BALL - Do you recall him having anything in his hand?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, I didn't see anything, if he did.
    Mr. BALL - Did you pay enough attention to him, you think, that you
    would remember whether he did or didn't?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, I believe I can---yes, sir---I'll put it this
    way; I didn't see anything in his hands at the time.
    Mr. BALL - In other words, your memory is definite on that is it?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes, sir.
    Mr. BALL - In other words, you would say positively he had nothing in
    his hands?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - I would say that---yes, sir.
    Mr. BALL - Or, are you guessing?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - I don't think so.

    If you believed the Warren Commission, you'd think that Dougherty just "believed" he'd seen Oswald coming to work, when Dougherty wasn't
    unsure at all. He was quite definite on that point, and the Warren
    Commission simply lied.

    If you believed the Warren Commission, you'd think that Dougherty
    simply didn't remember if Oswald had anything in his hands, yet the
    testimony shows that he was quite positive on that fact... again, the
    Warren Commission simply lied in order to present their case.

    When does the truth need lies to support it?

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  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Tue Sep 19 07:48:13 2023
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:07:46 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    "One employee, Jack Dougherty, believed that he saw Oswald coming to
    work, but he does not remember that Oswald had anything in his hands
    as he entered the door." (WCR 133)

    Let's examine the actual testimony to see if the Warren Commission accurately rendered it:

    Mr. BALL - Did you see him come in the door?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes; I saw him when he first come in the door--yes.
    Mr. BALL - Did he have anything in his hands or arms?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, not that I could see of.
    ...
    Mr. BALL - Do you recall him having anything in his hand?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, I didn't see anything, if he did.
    Mr. BALL - Did you pay enough attention to him, you think, that you
    would remember whether he did or didn't?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, I believe I can---yes, sir---I'll put it this
    way; I didn't see anything in his hands at the time.
    Mr. BALL - In other words, your memory is definite on that is it?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes, sir.
    Mr. BALL - In other words, you would say positively he had nothing in
    his hands?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - I would say that---yes, sir.
    Mr. BALL - Or, are you guessing?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - I don't think so.

    If you believed the Warren Commission, you'd think that Dougherty just "believed" he'd seen Oswald coming to work, when Dougherty wasn't
    unsure at all. He was quite definite on that point, and the Warren Commission simply lied.

    If you believed the Warren Commission, you'd think that Dougherty
    simply didn't remember if Oswald had anything in his hands, yet the testimony shows that he was quite positive on that fact... again, the
    Warren Commission simply lied in order to present their case.

    When does the truth need lies to support it?
    When the Lone Nutters believe the lies and repeat the lies, they become as much of a liar as the original liar ( WC ) .

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to gjjmail1202@gmail.com on Tue Sep 19 08:02:02 2023
    On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 07:48:13 -0700 (PDT), Gil Jesus
    <gjjmail1202@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:07:46?AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    "One employee, Jack Dougherty, believed that he saw Oswald coming to
    work, but he does not remember that Oswald had anything in his hands
    as he entered the door." (WCR 133)

    Let's examine the actual testimony to see if the Warren Commission
    accurately rendered it:

    Mr. BALL - Did you see him come in the door?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes; I saw him when he first come in the door--yes.
    Mr. BALL - Did he have anything in his hands or arms?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, not that I could see of.
    ...
    Mr. BALL - Do you recall him having anything in his hand?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, I didn't see anything, if he did.
    Mr. BALL - Did you pay enough attention to him, you think, that you
    would remember whether he did or didn't?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, I believe I can---yes, sir---I'll put it this
    way; I didn't see anything in his hands at the time.
    Mr. BALL - In other words, your memory is definite on that is it?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes, sir.
    Mr. BALL - In other words, you would say positively he had nothing in
    his hands?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - I would say that---yes, sir.
    Mr. BALL - Or, are you guessing?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - I don't think so.

    If you believed the Warren Commission, you'd think that Dougherty just
    "believed" he'd seen Oswald coming to work, when Dougherty wasn't
    unsure at all. He was quite definite on that point, and the Warren
    Commission simply lied.

    If you believed the Warren Commission, you'd think that Dougherty
    simply didn't remember if Oswald had anything in his hands, yet the
    testimony shows that he was quite positive on that fact... again, the
    Warren Commission simply lied in order to present their case.

    When does the truth need lies to support it?

    When the Lone Nutters believe the lies and repeat the lies, they become as much of a liar as the original liar ( WC ) .

    More importantly, since when are lies needed to uphold the truth?

    Believers instinctively know the answer to this - so they simply
    refuse to publicly acknowledge any lies on the part of the WCR.

    They simply hide their head in the sand, and hope no-one notices their dishonest cowardice.

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Tue Sep 19 08:14:26 2023
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:48:14 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:07:46 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    "One employee, Jack Dougherty, believed that he saw Oswald coming to
    work, but he does not remember that Oswald had anything in his hands
    as he entered the door." (WCR 133)

    Let's examine the actual testimony to see if the Warren Commission accurately rendered it:

    Mr. BALL - Did you see him come in the door?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes; I saw him when he first come in the door--yes.
    Mr. BALL - Did he have anything in his hands or arms?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, not that I could see of.
    ...
    Mr. BALL - Do you recall him having anything in his hand?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, I didn't see anything, if he did.
    Mr. BALL - Did you pay enough attention to him, you think, that you
    would remember whether he did or didn't?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, I believe I can---yes, sir---I'll put it this
    way; I didn't see anything in his hands at the time.
    Mr. BALL - In other words, your memory is definite on that is it?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes, sir.
    Mr. BALL - In other words, you would say positively he had nothing in
    his hands?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - I would say that---yes, sir.
    Mr. BALL - Or, are you guessing?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - I don't think so.

    If you believed the Warren Commission, you'd think that Dougherty just "believed" he'd seen Oswald coming to work, when Dougherty wasn't
    unsure at all. He was quite definite on that point, and the Warren Commission simply lied.

    If you believed the Warren Commission, you'd think that Dougherty
    simply didn't remember if Oswald had anything in his hands, yet the testimony shows that he was quite positive on that fact... again, the Warren Commission simply lied in order to present their case.

    When does the truth need lies to support it?
    When the Lone Nutters believe the lies and repeat the lies, they become as much of a liar as the original liar ( WC ) .

    The lies are all coming from the voices in your head.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to geowright1963@gmail.com on Tue Sep 19 08:27:04 2023
    On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 08:14:26 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <geowright1963@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:48:14?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:07:46?AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    "One employee, Jack Dougherty, believed that he saw Oswald coming to
    work, but he does not remember that Oswald had anything in his hands
    as he entered the door." (WCR 133)

    Let's examine the actual testimony to see if the Warren Commission
    accurately rendered it:

    Mr. BALL - Did you see him come in the door?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes; I saw him when he first come in the door--yes.
    Mr. BALL - Did he have anything in his hands or arms?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, not that I could see of.
    ...
    Mr. BALL - Do you recall him having anything in his hand?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, I didn't see anything, if he did.
    Mr. BALL - Did you pay enough attention to him, you think, that you
    would remember whether he did or didn't?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, I believe I can---yes, sir---I'll put it this
    way; I didn't see anything in his hands at the time.
    Mr. BALL - In other words, your memory is definite on that is it?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes, sir.
    Mr. BALL - In other words, you would say positively he had nothing in
    his hands?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - I would say that---yes, sir.
    Mr. BALL - Or, are you guessing?
    Mr. DOUGHERTY - I don't think so.

    If you believed the Warren Commission, you'd think that Dougherty just
    "believed" he'd seen Oswald coming to work, when Dougherty wasn't
    unsure at all. He was quite definite on that point, and the Warren
    Commission simply lied.

    If you believed the Warren Commission, you'd think that Dougherty
    simply didn't remember if Oswald had anything in his hands, yet the
    testimony shows that he was quite positive on that fact... again, the
    Warren Commission simply lied in order to present their case.

    When does the truth need lies to support it?

    When the Lone Nutters believe the lies and repeat the lies, they become as much of a liar as the original liar ( WC ) .

    The lies are all coming from the voices in your head.


    So Corbutt just proved to the world that he read this - and ran.

    He is, as Gil points out, just as big a liar as the original liar...
    the WC.

    If Corbutt was smarter, like Huckster ... he'd refuse to prove to the
    world that he read this by not responding.

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  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Tue Sep 19 11:28:53 2023
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 11:27:11 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:

    If Corbutt was smarter, like Huckster ... he'd refuse to prove to the
    world that he read this by not responding.

    He can't help but respond. He's addicted to this newsgroup.
    This is all he has. This is his life.
    Don't let him fool you, he's reading everybody's posts.
    He can't help it.

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Tue Sep 19 12:02:55 2023
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 2:28:55 PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 11:27:11 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:

    If Corbutt was smarter, like Huckster ... he'd refuse to prove to the world that he read this by not responding.
    He can't help but respond. He's addicted to this newsgroup.
    This is all he has. This is his life.
    Don't let him fool you, he's reading everybody's posts.
    He can't help it.

    You are as prolific a poster as I am and unlike you, this is the only group I participate in. I have
    also gone many months without posting anything. So which one of us is the addict?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to gjjmail1202@gmail.com on Tue Sep 19 12:41:15 2023
    On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 11:28:53 -0700 (PDT), Gil Jesus
    <gjjmail1202@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 11:27:11?AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:

    If Corbutt was smarter, like Huckster ... he'd refuse to prove to the
    world that he read this by not responding.

    He can't help but respond. He's addicted to this newsgroup.
    This is all he has. This is his life.
    Don't let him fool you, he's reading everybody's posts.
    He can't help it.

    Oh, I know. He can't resist. He claims he's ignoring my posts, and
    only accidently reads one now and then... but he's not fooling anyone.

    The only REAL fact remains - he cannot refute the facts you and I
    post.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to geowright1963@gmail.com on Tue Sep 19 12:41:55 2023
    On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 12:02:55 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <geowright1963@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 2:28:55?PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 11:27:11?AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:

    If Corbutt was smarter, like Huckster ... he'd refuse to prove to the
    world that he read this by not responding.
    He can't help but respond. He's addicted to this newsgroup.
    This is all he has. This is his life.
    Don't let him fool you, he's reading everybody's posts.
    He can't help it.

    You are as prolific a poster as I am and unlike you, this is the only group I participate in. I have
    also gone many months without posting anything.

    Show us.

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