• Provable Lies Of The Warren Commission - #19 - Just For Cowards Corbutt

    From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 15 07:13:45 2023
    "3. Although it is not necessary to any essential findings of the
    Commission to determine just which shot hit Governor Connally, there
    is very persuasive evidence from the experts to indicate that the same
    bullet which pierced the President's throat also caused Governor
    Connally's wounds." (WCR 19)

    Another excellent lie by omission... "the experts" are apparently Dr.
    Alfred G. Olivier, a veterinarian, and Dr. Arthur J. Dziemian, a PH.D.
    in physiology. As McKnight puts it:

    "The awkward fact confronting the Commission in marshaling so-called
    expert testimony was that most of the experts the Commission called
    upon for this critical determination actually disagreed with the
    conclusion stated in the report. The three Bethesda prosectors, Drs.
    Humes, Boswell, and Finck, were convinced that a separate bullet had
    struck Connally. None of them supported the possibility that
    Commission Exhibit (CE) 399 (the so-called magic bullet) could have
    shattered the governor's wrist and remained in near-pristine
    condition. Dr. Joseph R. Dolce, the U.S. Army's expert on high
    velocity weapons and the military's top ballistics expert, remained
    un-yielding in his opinion that two bullets had hit Connally, with a
    separate bullet causing the extensive damage to his wrist. When Dolce
    told Commission lawyer Arlen Specter that the forensic evidence did
    not support the contention that both men had been hit by the same
    missile, he was never again consulted and was not called as a witness.
    Governor Connally's two principal surgeons, Drs. Robert R. Shaw and
    Charles F. Gregory, testified before the Commission in late April that Connally's wounds were too massive to have been inflicted by one
    missile, especially one that was barely mutilated. It is worth noting
    that it was a unique event in the investigation for the Bethesda
    prosectors and the Parkland Memorial Hospital doctors to be in
    agreement about the medicolegal evidence in the Kennedy
    assassination." Breach of Trust - Gerald McKnight, pg. 289.

    Another obvious lie by the Warren Commission - the experts who could
    apply the best expertise to the topic were disregarded or even
    dismissed, while the WC 'shopped' for the "experts" who would support
    their thesis.

    And unless you immerse yourself into the actual testimony of these
    critical medical & ballistic experts, you'd never know this from just
    reading the WCR.

    Another lie exposed!

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  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 15 08:35:05 2023
    Another obvious lie by the Warren Commission - the experts who could
    apply the best expertise to the topic were disregarded or even
    dismissed, while the WC 'shopped' for the "experts" who would support
    their thesis.

    They did this multiple times, when the FBI didn't give them the results they wanted, they went somewhere else.
    This is proof that the Commission was not pursuing the truth, but rather their own agenda.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to gjjmail1202@gmail.com on Fri Sep 15 08:41:58 2023
    On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 08:35:05 -0700 (PDT), Gil Jesus
    <gjjmail1202@gmail.com> wrote:

    Another obvious lie by the Warren Commission - the experts who could
    apply the best expertise to the topic were disregarded or even
    dismissed, while the WC 'shopped' for the "experts" who would support
    their thesis.

    They did this multiple times, when the FBI didn't give them the results they wanted, they went somewhere else.
    This is proof that the Commission was not pursuing the truth, but rather their own agenda.

    And the fact that you can't find a *SINGLE* believer to publicly
    acknowledge this truth shows that in order to be a believer, you must
    be both a coward and a liar.

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Fri Sep 15 08:43:05 2023
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 11:35:07 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    Another obvious lie by the Warren Commission - the experts who could
    apply the best expertise to the topic were disregarded or even
    dismissed, while the WC 'shopped' for the "experts" who would support their thesis.
    They did this multiple times, when the FBI didn't give them the results they wanted, they went somewhere else.
    This is proof that the Commission was not pursuing the truth, but rather their own agenda.

    Gil keeps lying his ass off. The Commission got second opinions for key pieces of evidence,
    such as the fingerprints and ballistic evidence. It wasn't necessary for them to do so. They did
    this out of diligence.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to geowright1963@gmail.com on Fri Sep 15 08:47:01 2023
    On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 08:43:05 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <geowright1963@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 11:35:07?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    Another obvious lie by the Warren Commission - the experts who could
    apply the best expertise to the topic were disregarded or even
    dismissed, while the WC 'shopped' for the "experts" who would support
    their thesis.

    They did this multiple times, when the FBI didn't give them the results they wanted, they went somewhere else.
    This is proof that the Commission was not pursuing the truth, but rather their own agenda.

    Gil keeps lying his ass off.

    He is, of course, merely agreeing with the FACTS I pointed out and
    supported.

    You're TERRIFIED of those facts, so you refuse to respond to these
    proofs that the WCR blatantly lied.

    You lose.

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  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to geowri...@gmail.com on Fri Sep 15 09:11:17 2023
    On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 08:43:05 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
    geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Gil keeps lying his ass off.

    The difference between you and I is that I can call you a liar and PROVE it, while you can only call names.
    You say I'm a liar and it was only for corroboration, prove it.
    Show us the results the Commission got and the corroboration.

    They were so diligent, what happened to the negative of CE 133-A ?

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Fri Sep 15 11:34:48 2023
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 12:11:19 PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 08:43:05 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
    geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Gil keeps lying his ass off.
    The difference between you and I is that I can call you a liar and PROVE it, while you can only call names.
    You say I'm a liar and it was only for corroboration, prove it.
    Show us the results the Commission got and the corroboration.

    You are the one who made the accusation that they shopped for second opinions because they
    didn't like the answers the FBI gave them. The burden is on you to support that allegation.

    They were so diligent, what happened to the negative of CE 133-A ?

    One more example of Gil thinking he can prove a point simply by raising a question as opposed
    to answering it. He thinks by simply asking a question for which the answer is unknown, he's
    allowed to assume an answer that indicates a conspiracy.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to geowright1963@gmail.com on Fri Sep 15 11:43:24 2023
    On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 11:34:48 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <geowright1963@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 12:11:19?PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 08:43:05 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
    geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Gil keeps lying his ass off.
    The difference between you and I is that I can call you a liar and PROVE it, while you can only call names.
    You say I'm a liar and it was only for corroboration, prove it.
    Show us the results the Commission got and the corroboration.

    You are the one who made the accusation that they shopped for second opinions because they
    didn't like the answers the FBI gave them. The burden is on you to support that allegation.


    This is already well established historical fact.

    Joseph Nicol


    They were so diligent, what happened to the negative of CE 133-A ?

    One more example ...


    Of you running from the evidence.

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Fri Sep 15 11:46:38 2023
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 12:11:19 PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 08:43:05 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
    geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Gil keeps lying his ass off.
    The difference between you and I is that I can call you a liar and PROVE it, while you can only call names.
    You say I'm a liar and it was only for corroboration, prove it.
    Show us the results the Commission got and the corroboration.

    They were so diligent, what happened to the negative of CE 133-A ?

    "What about this, huh, huh, huh?"

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 15 11:47:18 2023
    On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 11:46:38 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirslick@fast.net>
    wrote:


    So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
    "virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?

    Chickenshit is TERRIFIED of this simple honest question. He knows
    that Bugliosi was a moron if he truly thought this... yet you can't
    get Chickenshit to publicly acknowledge that Bugliosi said this.

    It's a simple "Yes" or "No" question, and Chickenshit cannot cite
    where he has EVER answered it. (Without immediately denying it.)

    So it's going to keep getting asked until Chickenshit answers it.

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