• Re: connally would cancel motorcade

    From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to tom...@cox.net on Thu Sep 14 17:52:38 2023
    On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 12:54:11 PM UTC-7, tom...@cox.net wrote:
    As James Reston, Jr. put it: "The origin of President John F. Kennedy's
    trip to Texas in November 1963 is a subject which has passed through the prism of shame and collective guilt and emerged as a blur."(1) Did
    Kennedy travel to Texas in order to patch up a political feud between
    the Hatfield/McCoy Democrats in that state? Was he there in order to
    raise funds? Even now it isn't absolutely certain what reason or
    reasons moved Kennedy to fly to Texas and to Dallas. Certainly, one would not have predicted, prior to the trip, that Dallas would love President Kennedy.

    To be sure, after the trip was announced by the White House on September
    26 as a two-day tour, the majority sentiment, as expressed in the local Dallas newspapers, was generally favorable. Dallas citizens apparently wanted to welcome Kennedy in style.(2) And yet other, more sinister
    elements lurked in Dallas, as they lurk in all cities.

    In 1960, Lyndon B. Johnson himself had been spat upon while visiting
    Dallas. Shortly before the President's trip, on October 24, Adlai
    Stevenson had been hit with placards wielded by hostile followers of right-wing Major General (Ret.) Edwin Walker.(3) The day before Kennedy's visit to Dallas, "Wanted for Treason" posters, featuring a picture of Kennedy, were circulated on Dallas streets. And on the very morning of Kennedy's last day on earth, the "Dallas Morning News" printed a paid advertisement headed "Welcome President Kennedy to Dallas", an
    advertisement featuring a series of questions very critical of Kennedy's administration.(4)

    Kennedy himself was aware of Dallas's reputation; on the morning of
    November 22, after having read the "Dallas Morning News", he handed the paper to Jackie, saying: "Can you imagine a newspaper doing that? We're headed into nut country now"(5) Apparently considering the possible implications of this, Kennedy then mused that, when it comes to assassinating a President, "Anyone perched above the crowd with a rifle could do it."(6)

    With two Texas motorcades (in Houston and in San Antonio) behind them, a brief one to the Fort Worth airport just ahead of them, and another full-scale motorcade in Dallas only a few hours away, the Texas trip
    would certainly afford a would-be sniper or snipers plenty of
    opportunities to murder Jack Kennedy.

    Tragically, the concatenation of events which brought Kennedy to Elm
    Street in Dealey Plaza were the result of the unpredictable outcomes of quite ordinary political wrangling, with a dose of Murphey's Law thrown
    in for spite. The Warren Commission, the HSCA, and James Reston, Jr., separately investigating the circumstances which brought Kennedy's
    famous "bubble top" limousine to the assassination site all concluded
    that the hands of fate and chance were at work. Reston wrote of the
    "Three Furies" which combined to bring Kennedy to Elm Street.(7) The HSCA noted that "In the end, ironically, it was the tension and compromise between the two views [that is, the Connally/conservative wing and the Yarborough/Kennedy liberal wing] that produced the fatal motor
    cade route. If either side had been able to dictate its desires without compromise, the assassination might never have occurrred."(8)

    Reston's analysis of the "Three Furies" is particularly illuminating. According to Connally, Kennedy had been pushing for a Texas trip since
    even before Connally had been elected Governor in 1962. Kennedy,
    according to Connally, wanted money, plain and simple.(9) In June of
    1963, meeting in El Paso, Texas, Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson tried to pin Connally down to a date; Connally, as Governor of the state, was
    expected to host the visit. Kennedy suggested four fund-raising affairs
    to celebrate Johnson's birthday on August 28. Connally demurred, citing
    the fact that, at such a hot time, many of the principal money men would
    be out of state or otherwise unavailable. Connally promised to think
    about it and come up with a plan. Apparently, the initial discussions focused on a one-day trip, with time militating against any motorcades.

    In late September the White House announced a two-day trip to Texas on November 21-22. On October 4, during a visit with Kennedy in
    Washington, Connally formally acquiesed to the trip but suggested that
    one fund-raiser would suffice and would raise as much money as four. He
    also suggested that it would be good if Jackie could come along as
    well. She was popular in her own right, and the politicos' wives were anxious to see her and be seen with her.

    Connally felt he had everything to lose and nothing to gain by Kennedy's trip. He was trying to establish himself as an independent factor,
    neither a Johnson man or a Kennedy man. And Connally's supporters (and
    by far the ones with money) were conservative and anti-Kennedy. In
    contrast, Connally's rival Ralph Yarborough was seen as a liberal, a man
    of the people. Both of these men - and Yarborough suspected that
    Connally and Johnson were in league against him - wanted to advance
    their own interests. As White House advance man Jerry Bruno observed,
    "With John Connally, it was always what was best for Dallas and Texas..."(10) As opposed to what was best for the President.

    Connally, nominally in charge of the trip, had arranged for what came to
    be the first Fury of the trip, the awarding to Kennedy of an honorary
    degree by Texas Christian University in Fort Worth. Kennedy was highly pleased with this. His Catholicism was still an issue with many people.
    TCU was a Protestant school. Such an honor from such a school might
    help Kennedy's image with some Protestants. Advance man Jerry Bruno,
    when he visited Connally and Dallas on October 28, was given to
    understand that the TCU honorary degree was a done deal.(11)

    The plan at this point was for a mid-morning ceremony followed by a liesurely drive to a luncheon in Dallas. No motorcade was planned. But apparently Kennedy's religion was even more of a question to some than
    they had thought. TCU decided against the degree and the schedule was
    thrown into disarray. Kennedy had planned, after having participated in
    a testimonial dinner for veteran Congressman Albert Thomas in Houston,
    to spend the night, saving time and energy.

    But the TCU cancellation left dead space in the schedule. Hastily, a breakfast event was planned in Fort Worth, requiring a late-night entry
    into that city. Still, two hours were left unplanned so it was decided
    that Kennedy would fly to Dallas and drive from Dallas's Love Field
    airport to the luncheon site - a site as yet undetermined.

    Kennedy, meanwhile, through his aide Kenneth O'Donnell, had expressed interest in a motorcade. Connally was opposed, citing reasons of
    overworking the President - he felt that Kennedy would make the best impression if he was fresh. Connally ultimately gave in on this issue
    and tentative planning was begun. However, the motorcade route was
    dependent upon the location of the luncheon; that decision was not made until November 15, only one week before the visit.

    Connally, for reasons that are still in dispute, was absolutely
    insistent upon holding the luncheon at the new Trade Mart, near the
    airport along the Stemmons Freeway. Kennedy and O'Donnell wanted to
    hold it at the Women's Building, near the Fairgrounds. The Secret
    Service concurred, believing that the Women's Building would be easier
    to secure. Connally perhaps wanted to limit the size of the crowd,
    excluding as many of Yarborough's supporters as he could. Yarborough
    pushed for the larger Women's Building. In the event, Connally got his
    way, threatening to pull his support if the Trade Mart was not chosen. O'Donnell felt he had no choice but to go along.(12)

    And so the third Fury - after the TCU cancellation and the decision to
    hold a motorcade - roared into play. Had the luncheon been held at the Women's Building, the plans called for the motorcade to proceed from
    Love Field directly to the Stemmons Freeway, exit at Main Street in
    Dealy Plaza, and proceed at an approximate speed of forty miles per hour
    to the corner of Houston and Main, where it would slow to the customary motorcade speed.(13) Had this happened, locations along Elm Street, such
    as the Texas School Book Depository or the grassy knoll would have been effectively neutralized as likely places from which to fire at the President.

    Aside from the fact that Kennedy would have been much farther away, and aside from the fact that the target would have represented a fast-moving cross shot rather than a slowly-moving enfilade shot, the view of
    Kennedy would have been partially obscured by his wife, sitting to his
    left. Those who believe that the assassination was a long-planned conspiracy, involving setting up Oswald as a patsy or otherwise communicating with or about Lee Harvey Oswald would do well to note that
    had Connally not insisted on the Trade Mart as a luncheon site, all that conspiratorial planning would have been for nought. And since Oswald's presence in the Texas School Book Depository on November 22 was also the result of non-suspicious, happenstance circumstances, (the subject of another article) one can only wonder just how Conspiracy Central managed
    to pull it all off.

    But whatever the implications for potential assassins, when Connally got
    his way and the luncheon was planned for the Trade Mart a week before
    the trip, the stage was set for the people in Dealey Plaza to become extraordinary witnesses, whose recollections have been subjected to the
    most intense scrutiny, rather than "mere" spectators who might, from
    time to time, pull out the old pictures of Kennedy driving by them in
    Dallas for bored grandchildren.

    1 Reston, James Jr. TheLone Star: The Life of John Connally New York:
    Harper & Row, 1989 p. 237 2 WCR, p.55

    3 Reston, p. 242

    4 WCR, p. 56

    5 Reston, p. 273

    6 Bishop, Jim The Day Kennedy Was Shot New York: Harper Perennial
    edition, 1992, p. 29 (first published in 1968 by Funk & Wagnalls)

    7 Reston, p. 255

    8 11 HSCA 507

    9 Reston, p. 240. See also "Life" magazine, 11/25/66 and Connally's testimony to the HSCA, HSCA 1 11+

    10 Reston, p. 259

    11 Reston, p. 255

    12 Reston, p. 642 (excerpt from Jerry Bruno's diary)

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  • From Hank Sienzant@21:1/5 to gggg gggg on Thu Sep 14 18:53:26 2023
    On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 8:52:40 PM UTC-4, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 12:54:11 PM UTC-7, tom...@cox.net wrote:
    As James Reston, Jr. put it: "The origin of President John F. Kennedy's trip to Texas in November 1963 is a subject which has passed through the prism of shame and collective guilt and emerged as a blur."(1) Did
    Kennedy travel to Texas in order to patch up a political feud between
    the Hatfield/McCoy Democrats in that state? Was he there in order to
    raise funds? Even now it isn't absolutely certain what reason or
    reasons moved Kennedy to fly to Texas and to Dallas. Certainly, one would not have predicted, prior to the trip, that Dallas would love President Kennedy.

    To be sure, after the trip was announced by the White House on September 26 as a two-day tour, the majority sentiment, as expressed in the local Dallas newspapers, was generally favorable. Dallas citizens apparently wanted to welcome Kennedy in style.(2) And yet other, more sinister elements lurked in Dallas, as they lurk in all cities.

    In 1960, Lyndon B. Johnson himself had been spat upon while visiting Dallas. Shortly before the President's trip, on October 24, Adlai Stevenson had been hit with placards wielded by hostile followers of right-wing Major General (Ret.) Edwin Walker.(3) The day before Kennedy's visit to Dallas, "Wanted for Treason" posters, featuring a picture of Kennedy, were circulated on Dallas streets. And on the very morning of Kennedy's last day on earth, the "Dallas Morning News" printed a paid advertisement headed "Welcome President Kennedy to Dallas", an advertisement featuring a series of questions very critical of Kennedy's administration.(4)

    Kennedy himself was aware of Dallas's reputation; on the morning of November 22, after having read the "Dallas Morning News", he handed the paper to Jackie, saying: "Can you imagine a newspaper doing that? We're headed into nut country now"(5) Apparently considering the possible implications of this, Kennedy then mused that, when it comes to assassinating a President, "Anyone perched above the crowd with a rifle could do it."(6)

    With two Texas motorcades (in Houston and in San Antonio) behind them, a brief one to the Fort Worth airport just ahead of them, and another full-scale motorcade in Dallas only a few hours away, the Texas trip
    would certainly afford a would-be sniper or snipers plenty of opportunities to murder Jack Kennedy.

    Tragically, the concatenation of events which brought Kennedy to Elm Street in Dealey Plaza were the result of the unpredictable outcomes of quite ordinary political wrangling, with a dose of Murphey's Law thrown
    in for spite. The Warren Commission, the HSCA, and James Reston, Jr., separately investigating the circumstances which brought Kennedy's
    famous "bubble top" limousine to the assassination site all concluded
    that the hands of fate and chance were at work. Reston wrote of the
    "Three Furies" which combined to bring Kennedy to Elm Street.(7) The HSCA noted that "In the end, ironically, it was the tension and compromise between the two views [that is, the Connally/conservative wing and the Yarborough/Kennedy liberal wing] that produced the fatal motor
    cade route. If either side had been able to dictate its desires without compromise, the assassination might never have occurrred."(8)

    Reston's analysis of the "Three Furies" is particularly illuminating. According to Connally, Kennedy had been pushing for a Texas trip since even before Connally had been elected Governor in 1962. Kennedy,
    according to Connally, wanted money, plain and simple.(9) In June of
    1963, meeting in El Paso, Texas, Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson tried to pin Connally down to a date; Connally, as Governor of the state, was
    expected to host the visit. Kennedy suggested four fund-raising affairs
    to celebrate Johnson's birthday on August 28. Connally demurred, citing the fact that, at such a hot time, many of the principal money men would be out of state or otherwise unavailable. Connally promised to think
    about it and come up with a plan. Apparently, the initial discussions focused on a one-day trip, with time militating against any motorcades.

    In late September the White House announced a two-day trip to Texas on November 21-22. On October 4, during a visit with Kennedy in
    Washington, Connally formally acquiesed to the trip but suggested that
    one fund-raiser would suffice and would raise as much money as four. He also suggested that it would be good if Jackie could come along as
    well. She was popular in her own right, and the politicos' wives were anxious to see her and be seen with her.

    Connally felt he had everything to lose and nothing to gain by Kennedy's trip. He was trying to establish himself as an independent factor,
    neither a Johnson man or a Kennedy man. And Connally's supporters (and
    by far the ones with money) were conservative and anti-Kennedy. In contrast, Connally's rival Ralph Yarborough was seen as a liberal, a man of the people. Both of these men - and Yarborough suspected that
    Connally and Johnson were in league against him - wanted to advance
    their own interests. As White House advance man Jerry Bruno observed, "With John Connally, it was always what was best for Dallas and Texas..."(10) As opposed to what was best for the President.

    Connally, nominally in charge of the trip, had arranged for what came to be the first Fury of the trip, the awarding to Kennedy of an honorary degree by Texas Christian University in Fort Worth. Kennedy was highly pleased with this. His Catholicism was still an issue with many people. TCU was a Protestant school. Such an honor from such a school might
    help Kennedy's image with some Protestants. Advance man Jerry Bruno,
    when he visited Connally and Dallas on October 28, was given to
    understand that the TCU honorary degree was a done deal.(11)

    The plan at this point was for a mid-morning ceremony followed by a liesurely drive to a luncheon in Dallas. No motorcade was planned. But apparently Kennedy's religion was even more of a question to some than they had thought. TCU decided against the degree and the schedule was thrown into disarray. Kennedy had planned, after having participated in
    a testimonial dinner for veteran Congressman Albert Thomas in Houston,
    to spend the night, saving time and energy.

    But the TCU cancellation left dead space in the schedule. Hastily, a breakfast event was planned in Fort Worth, requiring a late-night entry into that city. Still, two hours were left unplanned so it was decided that Kennedy would fly to Dallas and drive from Dallas's Love Field airport to the luncheon site - a site as yet undetermined.

    Kennedy, meanwhile, through his aide Kenneth O'Donnell, had expressed interest in a motorcade. Connally was opposed, citing reasons of overworking the President - he felt that Kennedy would make the best impression if he was fresh. Connally ultimately gave in on this issue
    and tentative planning was begun. However, the motorcade route was dependent upon the location of the luncheon; that decision was not made until November 15, only one week before the visit.

    Connally, for reasons that are still in dispute, was absolutely
    insistent upon holding the luncheon at the new Trade Mart, near the airport along the Stemmons Freeway. Kennedy and O'Donnell wanted to
    hold it at the Women's Building, near the Fairgrounds. The Secret
    Service concurred, believing that the Women's Building would be easier
    to secure. Connally perhaps wanted to limit the size of the crowd, excluding as many of Yarborough's supporters as he could. Yarborough pushed for the larger Women's Building. In the event, Connally got his way, threatening to pull his support if the Trade Mart was not chosen. O'Donnell felt he had no choice but to go along.(12)

    And so the third Fury - after the TCU cancellation and the decision to hold a motorcade - roared into play. Had the luncheon been held at the Women's Building, the plans called for the motorcade to proceed from
    Love Field directly to the Stemmons Freeway, exit at Main Street in
    Dealy Plaza, and proceed at an approximate speed of forty miles per hour to the corner of Houston and Main, where it would slow to the customary motorcade speed.(13) Had this happened, locations along Elm Street, such as the Texas School Book Depository or the grassy knoll would have been effectively neutralized as likely places from which to fire at the President.

    Aside from the fact that Kennedy would have been much farther away, and aside from the fact that the target would have represented a fast-moving cross shot rather than a slowly-moving enfilade shot, the view of
    Kennedy would have been partially obscured by his wife, sitting to his left. Those who believe that the assassination was a long-planned conspiracy, involving setting up Oswald as a patsy or otherwise communicating with or about Lee Harvey Oswald would do well to note that had Connally not insisted on the Trade Mart as a luncheon site, all that conspiratorial planning would have been for nought. And since Oswald's presence in the Texas School Book Depository on November 22 was also the result of non-suspicious, happenstance circumstances, (the subject of another article) one can only wonder just how Conspiracy Central managed to pull it all off.

    But whatever the implications for potential assassins, when Connally got his way and the luncheon was planned for the Trade Mart a week before
    the trip, the stage was set for the people in Dealey Plaza to become extraordinary witnesses, whose recollections have been subjected to the most intense scrutiny, rather than "mere" spectators who might, from
    time to time, pull out the old pictures of Kennedy driving by them in Dallas for bored grandchildren.

    1 Reston, James Jr. TheLone Star: The Life of John Connally New York: Harper & Row, 1989 p. 237 2 WCR, p.55

    3 Reston, p. 242

    4 WCR, p. 56

    5 Reston, p. 273

    6 Bishop, Jim The Day Kennedy Was Shot New York: Harper Perennial
    edition, 1992, p. 29 (first published in 1968 by Funk & Wagnalls)

    7 Reston, p. 255

    8 11 HSCA 507

    9 Reston, p. 240. See also "Life" magazine, 11/25/66 and Connally's testimony to the HSCA, HSCA 1 11+

    10 Reston, p. 259

    11 Reston, p. 255

    12 Reston, p. 642 (excerpt from Jerry Bruno's diary)

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    What did Bruno specifically say that calls into question anything in the first post in this thread?

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to tom...@cox.net on Fri Sep 15 03:10:27 2023
    On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 3:54:11 PM UTC-4, tom...@cox.net wrote:
    As James Reston, Jr. put it: "The origin of President John F. Kennedy's
    trip to Texas in November 1963 is a subject which has passed through the prism of shame and collective guilt and emerged as a blur."(1) Did
    Kennedy travel to Texas in order to patch up a political feud between
    the Hatfield/McCoy Democrats in that state? Was he there in order to
    raise funds? Even now it isn't absolutely certain what reason or
    reasons moved Kennedy to fly to Texas and to Dallas. Certainly, one would not have predicted, prior to the trip, that Dallas would love President Kennedy.

    To be sure, after the trip was announced by the White House on September
    26 as a two-day tour, the majority sentiment, as expressed in the local Dallas newspapers, was generally favorable. Dallas citizens apparently wanted to welcome Kennedy in style.(2) And yet other, more sinister
    elements lurked in Dallas, as they lurk in all cities.

    In 1960, Lyndon B. Johnson himself had been spat upon while visiting
    Dallas. Shortly before the President's trip, on October 24, Adlai
    Stevenson had been hit with placards wielded by hostile followers of right-wing Major General (Ret.) Edwin Walker.(3) The day before Kennedy's visit to Dallas, "Wanted for Treason" posters, featuring a picture of Kennedy, were circulated on Dallas streets. And on the very morning of Kennedy's last day on earth, the "Dallas Morning News" printed a paid advertisement headed "Welcome President Kennedy to Dallas", an
    advertisement featuring a series of questions very critical of Kennedy's administration.(4)

    Kennedy himself was aware of Dallas's reputation; on the morning of
    November 22, after having read the "Dallas Morning News", he handed the paper to Jackie, saying: "Can you imagine a newspaper doing that? We're headed into nut country now"(5) Apparently considering the possible implications of this, Kennedy then mused that, when it comes to assassinating a President, "Anyone perched above the crowd with a rifle could do it."(6)

    With two Texas motorcades (in Houston and in San Antonio) behind them, a brief one to the Fort Worth airport just ahead of them, and another full-scale motorcade in Dallas only a few hours away, the Texas trip
    would certainly afford a would-be sniper or snipers plenty of
    opportunities to murder Jack Kennedy.

    Tragically, the concatenation of events which brought Kennedy to Elm
    Street in Dealey Plaza were the result of the unpredictable outcomes of quite ordinary political wrangling, with a dose of Murphey's Law thrown
    in for spite. The Warren Commission, the HSCA, and James Reston, Jr., separately investigating the circumstances which brought Kennedy's
    famous "bubble top" limousine to the assassination site all concluded
    that the hands of fate and chance were at work. Reston wrote of the
    "Three Furies" which combined to bring Kennedy to Elm Street.(7) The HSCA noted that "In the end, ironically, it was the tension and compromise between the two views [that is, the Connally/conservative wing and the Yarborough/Kennedy liberal wing] that produced the fatal motor
    cade route. If either side had been able to dictate its desires without compromise, the assassination might never have occurrred."(8)

    Reston's analysis of the "Three Furies" is particularly illuminating. According to Connally, Kennedy had been pushing for a Texas trip since
    even before Connally had been elected Governor in 1962. Kennedy,
    according to Connally, wanted money, plain and simple.(9) In June of
    1963, meeting in El Paso, Texas, Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson tried to pin Connally down to a date; Connally, as Governor of the state, was
    expected to host the visit. Kennedy suggested four fund-raising affairs
    to celebrate Johnson's birthday on August 28. Connally demurred, citing
    the fact that, at such a hot time, many of the principal money men would
    be out of state or otherwise unavailable. Connally promised to think
    about it and come up with a plan. Apparently, the initial discussions focused on a one-day trip, with time militating against any motorcades.

    In late September the White House announced a two-day trip to Texas on November 21-22. On October 4, during a visit with Kennedy in
    Washington, Connally formally acquiesed to the trip but suggested that
    one fund-raiser would suffice and would raise as much money as four. He
    also suggested that it would be good if Jackie could come along as
    well. She was popular in her own right, and the politicos' wives were anxious to see her and be seen with her.

    Connally felt he had everything to lose and nothing to gain by Kennedy's trip. He was trying to establish himself as an independent factor,
    neither a Johnson man or a Kennedy man. And Connally's supporters (and
    by far the ones with money) were conservative and anti-Kennedy. In
    contrast, Connally's rival Ralph Yarborough was seen as a liberal, a man
    of the people. Both of these men - and Yarborough suspected that
    Connally and Johnson were in league against him - wanted to advance
    their own interests. As White House advance man Jerry Bruno observed,
    "With John Connally, it was always what was best for Dallas and Texas..."(10) As opposed to what was best for the President.

    Connally, nominally in charge of the trip, had arranged for what came to
    be the first Fury of the trip, the awarding to Kennedy of an honorary
    degree by Texas Christian University in Fort Worth. Kennedy was highly pleased with this. His Catholicism was still an issue with many people.
    TCU was a Protestant school. Such an honor from such a school might
    help Kennedy's image with some Protestants. Advance man Jerry Bruno,
    when he visited Connally and Dallas on October 28, was given to
    understand that the TCU honorary degree was a done deal.(11)

    The plan at this point was for a mid-morning ceremony followed by a liesurely drive to a luncheon in Dallas. No motorcade was planned. But apparently Kennedy's religion was even more of a question to some than
    they had thought. TCU decided against the degree and the schedule was
    thrown into disarray. Kennedy had planned, after having participated in
    a testimonial dinner for veteran Congressman Albert Thomas in Houston,
    to spend the night, saving time and energy.

    But the TCU cancellation left dead space in the schedule. Hastily, a breakfast event was planned in Fort Worth, requiring a late-night entry
    into that city. Still, two hours were left unplanned so it was decided
    that Kennedy would fly to Dallas and drive from Dallas's Love Field
    airport to the luncheon site - a site as yet undetermined.

    Kennedy, meanwhile, through his aide Kenneth O'Donnell, had expressed interest in a motorcade. Connally was opposed, citing reasons of
    overworking the President - he felt that Kennedy would make the best impression if he was fresh. Connally ultimately gave in on this issue
    and tentative planning was begun. However, the motorcade route was
    dependent upon the location of the luncheon; that decision was not made until November 15, only one week before the visit.

    Connally, for reasons that are still in dispute, was absolutely
    insistent upon holding the luncheon at the new Trade Mart, near the
    airport along the Stemmons Freeway. Kennedy and O'Donnell wanted to
    hold it at the Women's Building, near the Fairgrounds. The Secret
    Service concurred, believing that the Women's Building would be easier
    to secure. Connally perhaps wanted to limit the size of the crowd,
    excluding as many of Yarborough's supporters as he could. Yarborough
    pushed for the larger Women's Building. In the event, Connally got his
    way, threatening to pull his support if the Trade Mart was not chosen. O'Donnell felt he had no choice but to go along.(12)

    And so the third Fury - after the TCU cancellation and the decision to
    hold a motorcade - roared into play. Had the luncheon been held at the Women's Building, the plans called for the motorcade to proceed from
    Love Field directly to the Stemmons Freeway, exit at Main Street in
    Dealy Plaza, and proceed at an approximate speed of forty miles per hour
    to the corner of Houston and Main, where it would slow to the customary motorcade speed.(13) Had this happened, locations along Elm Street, such
    as the Texas School Book Depository or the grassy knoll would have been effectively neutralized as likely places from which to fire at the President.

    Aside from the fact that Kennedy would have been much farther away, and aside from the fact that the target would have represented a fast-moving cross shot rather than a slowly-moving enfilade shot, the view of
    Kennedy would have been partially obscured by his wife, sitting to his
    left. Those who believe that the assassination was a long-planned conspiracy, involving setting up Oswald as a patsy or otherwise communicating with or about Lee Harvey Oswald would do well to note that
    had Connally not insisted on the Trade Mart as a luncheon site, all that conspiratorial planning would have been for nought. And since Oswald's presence in the Texas School Book Depository on November 22 was also the result of non-suspicious, happenstance circumstances, (the subject of another article) one can only wonder just how Conspiracy Central managed
    to pull it all off.

    But whatever the implications for potential assassins, when Connally got
    his way and the luncheon was planned for the Trade Mart a week before
    the trip, the stage was set for the people in Dealey Plaza to become extraordinary witnesses, whose recollections have been subjected to the
    most intense scrutiny, rather than "mere" spectators who might, from
    time to time, pull out the old pictures of Kennedy driving by them in
    Dallas for bored grandchildren.

    1 Reston, James Jr. TheLone Star: The Life of John Connally New York:
    Harper & Row, 1989 p. 237 2 WCR, p.55

    3 Reston, p. 242

    4 WCR, p. 56

    5 Reston, p. 273

    6 Bishop, Jim The Day Kennedy Was Shot New York: Harper Perennial
    edition, 1992, p. 29 (first published in 1968 by Funk & Wagnalls)

    7 Reston, p. 255

    8 11 HSCA 507

    9 Reston, p. 240. See also "Life" magazine, 11/25/66 and Connally's testimony to the HSCA, HSCA 1 11+

    10 Reston, p. 259

    11 Reston, p. 255

    12 Reston, p. 642 (excerpt from Jerry Bruno's diary)

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    That is an excellent article. Very informative. Some of it I already knew but some of it was new
    to me. Thanks for posting that.

    What it does is summarize the random circumstances the brought JFK into range of Oswald's
    rifle. The motorcade was always going to go down Main St because that was the traditional
    parade route through downtown Dallas. Had another luncheon site been selected, the motorcade
    would have gone down Main in the opposite direction and would never have gone right past
    the TSBD. Oswald would have had a near impossible shot at Main and Houston and a very
    brief window of opportunity.

    The part about JFK being offered an honorary degree from TCU only to have it rescinded was
    one of the things I had never heard. If only...

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to hsienzant@aol.com on Fri Sep 15 07:13:45 2023
    On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 18:53:26 -0700 (PDT), Hank Sienzant
    <hsienzant@aol.com> wrote:

    What did Bruno specifically say...

    What do *YOU* say:

    You've claimed that the "A.B.C.D." in the Autopsy Report is the
    description of the *location* of the large head wound.

    Yet you refuse time and time again from QUOTING the preceding
    paragraph that describes what this ACTUALLY is. Why is that?

    You've also claimed that the prosectors dissected the throat wound.

    Why do you continue to refuse to cite any evidence for this?

    Why have you CONSISTENTLY run away each time I raise this issue?

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to geowright1963@gmail.com on Fri Sep 15 07:13:45 2023
    On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 03:10:27 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <geowright1963@gmail.com> wrote:


    What it does is summarize the random circumstances the brought JFK into range of Oswald's
    rifle. The motorcade was always going to go down Main St because that was the traditional
    parade route through downtown Dallas. Had another luncheon site been selected, the motorcade
    would have gone down Main in the opposite direction and would never have gone right past
    the TSBD. Oswald would have had a near impossible shot at Main and Houston and a very
    brief window of opportunity.

    And if it had gone only down Main street, there aren't any businesses
    along that route that would have hired Oswald. What a MORONIC wacky
    claim.

    You show your stupidity in every post.

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