Note also that the WC observed that the limo did not go under the tree until frame Z166. That means that Oswald would have had a clear line of fire up until that frame. They did not conclude that Oswald took a shot prior to Z166,
but they did conclude it was a possibility. I think we can safely say now, that
is what happened. There is no definitive evidence as to exactly when that shot was fired, but we can see Connally react to it at Z164.
The following quote is from Chapter 3 of the Warren Commission Report. It >begins at the bottom of page 97 and continues to the bottom of page 98.Zapruder filmed the Presidential limousine as it came around the corner and proceeded down Elm. The President was in clear view of the assassin as he rode up Houston Street and for 100 feet as he proceeded down Elm Street, until he came to a point
[quote on]
The First Bullet that Hit
The position of President Kennedy's car when he was struck in the neck was determined with substantial precision from the films and
Page 98
onsite tests. The pictures or frames in the Zapruder film were marked by the agents, with the number "1" given to the first frame where the motorcycles leading the motorcade came into view on Houston Street.273 The numbers continue in sequence as
telescopic sight of the C2766 Mannlicher-Carcano rifle.275 (See Commission Exhibit No. 887, p. 99.) Each position was measured to determine how far President Kennedy had gone down Elm from a point, which was designated as station C, on a line drawnalong the west curbline of Houston Street.276
Based on these calculations, the agents concluded that at frame 166 of the Zapruder film the President passed beneath the foliage of the large oak tree and the point of impact on the President's back disappeared from the gunman's view as seen throughthe telescopic lens.277 (See Commission Exhibit No. 889, p. 100.) For a fleeting instant, the President came back into view in the telescopic lens at frame 186 as he appeared in an opening among the leaves.278 (See Commission Exhibit No. 891, p. 101.)
As the President rode along Elm Street for a distance of about 140 feet, he was waving to the crowd.281 Shaneyfelt testified that the waving is seen on the Zapruder movie until around frame 205, when road sign blocked out most of the President's bodyfrom Zapruder's view through the lens of his camera. However, the assassin continued to have a clear view of the President as he proceeded down Elm.282 When President Kennedy again came fully into view in the Zapruder film at frame 225, he seemed to be
[quote off]
Notice that the title of the section is "The First Bullet that Hit". It does not say
"The First Bullet that Was Fired", which seems to be ...
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 5:11:50?PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
Note also that the WC observed that the limo did not go under the tree until >> frame Z166. That means that Oswald would have had a clear line of fire up
until that frame. They did not conclude that Oswald took a shot prior to Z166,
but they did conclude it was a possibility. I think we can safely say now, that
is what happened. There is no definitive evidence as to exactly when that
shot was fired, but we can see Connally react to it at Z164.
Notice that Corbett has copied and pasted someone else's work without giving that writer credit.
So Corbett has the first shot at Z166 ( missed )
The FBI never said that.
The Secret Service never said that.
The Warren Commission never said that.
The House Select Committee never said that.
No witness ever said that.
But Corbett says that "we can safely say now that is what happened". >According to who, some writer on the internet you plagarized ?
Second shot hitting both men at Z224
The FBI never said that.
The Secret Service never said that.
The Warren Commission never said that.
The House Select Committee never said that.
No witness ever said that.
But Corbett says that "we can safely say now that is what happened". >According to who, some writer on the internet you plagarized ?
Third shot hitting JFK in the head at Z 313.
That we all know is true.
Corbett's entire shooting sequence 8.033 seconds. ( 313-166=147, 147 frames divided by 18.3 )
The FBI never said that.
The Secret Service never said that.
The Warren Commission never said that.
The House Select Committee never said that.
No witness ever said that.
But Corbett says that "we can safely say now that is what happened". >According to who, some writer on the internet you plagarized ?
Your willing to accept as fact any "possibility" brought to your attention. >Where's your corroboration ?
You don't have any evidence to support your theory.
Talk about factually challenged.
ROFLMAO
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 5:11:50 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
< a pile of Warren Report bullshit deleted >
So Corbett has the first shot at Z166 ( missed )
The FBI never said that.
The Secret Service never said that.
The Warren Commission never said that.
The House Select Committee never said that.
No witness ever said that.
But Corbett says that "we can safely say now that is what happened".
Second shot hitting both men at Z224
The FBI never said that.
The Secret Service never said that.
The Warren Commission never said that.
The House Select Committee never said that.
No witness ever said that.
But Corbett says that "we can safely say now that is what happened".
Third shot hitting JFK in the head at Z 313.Strawman. That is not Corbett's sequence. That is a product of your piss poor reading
That we all know is true.
Corbett's entire shooting sequence 8.033 seconds. ( 313-166=147, 147 frames divided by 18.3 )
The FBI never said that.
The Secret Service never said that.
The Warren Commission never said that.
The House Select Committee never said that.
No witness ever said that.
But Corbett says that "we can safely say now that is what happened".
Your willing to accept as fact any "possibility" brought to your attention. Where's your corroboration ?
You don't have any evidence to support your theory.
Talk about factually challenged.
ROFLMAO
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 5:59:31?PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 5:11:50?PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:So you deleted the evidence I posted exposing your lies about what the Warren Commission
< a pile of Warren Report bullshit deleted >
said.
So Corbett has the first shot at Z166 ( missed )
The FBI never said that.
The Secret Service never said that.
The Warren Commission never said that.
The House Select Committee never said that.
No witness ever said that.
Corbett never said that.
But Corbett says that "we can safely say now that is what happened".
You are lying.
Second shot hitting both men at Z224
At or before.
The FBI never said that.
The Secret Service never said that.
The Warren Commission never said that.
The Warren Commission...
The House Select Committee never said that.
The HSCA...
No witness ever said that.
How is a witness supposed to have known ...
But Corbett says that "we can safely say now that is what happened".
We can ...
Third shot hitting JFK in the head at Z 313.
That we all know is true.
Corbett's entire shooting sequence 8.033 seconds. ( 313-166=147, 147 frames divided by 18.3 )
The FBI never said that.
The Secret Service never said that.
The Warren Commission never said that.
The House Select Committee never said that.
No witness ever said that.
But Corbett says that "we can safely say now that is what happened".
Corbett never said that. Again, you lie.
But Corbett says that "we can safely say now that is what happened".
Your willing to accept as fact any "possibility" brought to your attention. >> Where's your corroboration ?
You don't have any evidence to support your theory.
Talk about factually challenged.
ROFLMAO
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 15:48:36 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 5:59:31?PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:So you refuse to QUOTE Gil, and have the balls to claim he's lying...
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 5:11:50?PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote: >> < a pile of Warren Report bullshit deleted >So you deleted the evidence I posted exposing your lies about what the Warren Commission
said.
Logical fallacy deleted.So Corbett has the first shot at Z166 ( missed )
The FBI never said that.
The Secret Service never said that.
The Warren Commission never said that.
The House Select Committee never said that.
No witness ever said that.
Corbett never said that.But you won't quote what you DID say...
But Corbett says that "we can safely say now that is what happened".
You are lying.Those are quote marks... are you claiming you never said that???
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 7:07:48 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 15:48:36 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 5:59:31?PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:So you refuse to QUOTE Gil, and have the balls to claim he's lying...
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 5:11:50?PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote: >> < a pile of Warren Report bullshit deleted >So you deleted the evidence I posted exposing your lies about what the Warren Commission
said.
Logical fallacy deleted.So Corbett has the first shot at Z166 ( missed )
The FBI never said that.
The Secret Service never said that.
The Warren Commission never said that.
The House Select Committee never said that.
No witness ever said that.
Corbett never said that.But you won't quote what you DID say...
But Corbett says that "we can safely say now that is what happened".
You are lying.Those are quote marks... are you claiming you never said that???
"They did not conclude that Oswald took a shot prior to Z166, but they did conclude it was a possibility. I think we can safely say now, that
is what happened." ---John Corbett
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/JGUUMtQb4RY/m/25vKV3X0BwAJ
I was giving him the benefit of the doubt at Z166 because any shot fired before that would have only extended the shooting sequence LONGER
and been more detrimental and damaging to his argument.
For that he calls me a liar.
When Corbett and the other LNers in this group don't have any evidence, they always fall back on "possibilites", "reason" and "common sense".
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 6:07:12?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 7:07:48?PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 15:48:36 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 5:59:31?PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:So you refuse to QUOTE Gil, and have the balls to claim he's lying...
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 5:11:50?PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote: >>>>> < a pile of Warren Report bullshit deleted >So you deleted the evidence I posted exposing your lies about what the Warren Commission
said.
Logical fallacy deleted.So Corbett has the first shot at Z166 ( missed )
But you won't quote what you DID say...The FBI never said that.
The Secret Service never said that.
The Warren Commission never said that.
The House Select Committee never said that.
No witness ever said that.
Corbett never said that.
Those are quote marks... are you claiming you never said that???But Corbett says that "we can safely say now that is what happened".
You are lying.
Being the lying motherfucker that I am...
On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 11:57:21 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 6:07:12?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 7:07:48?PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote: >>>>> But Corbett says that "we can safely say now that is what happened". >>>>
You are lying.Those are quote marks... are you claiming you never said that???
Being the lying motherfucker that I am...
I agree.
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 4:04:55 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 11:57:21 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 6:07:12?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 7:07:48?PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote: >>>>> But Corbett says that "we can safely say now that is what happened". >>>>
You are lying.Those are quote marks... are you claiming you never said that???
Being the lying motherfucker that I am...
I agree.The only "factually challenged" posters here are the ones who don't post facts.
No citations
No documents
No testimony
No exhibits
No witness videos
They do no research of their own, preferring to take the lazy way out
and fall back on the conclusions of the Warren Commission Report.
You can gain NO KNOWLEDGE from their posts.
What they DO post are comments, speculation, opinion and ( when that
doesn't work ) insults.
On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 4:30:20?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 4:04:55?PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 11:57:21 -0700 (PDT), John CorbettThe only "factually challenged" posters here are the ones who don't post facts.
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 6:07:12?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 7:07:48?PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote: >> > >>>>> But Corbett says that "we can safely say now that is what happened". >> > >>>>
You are lying.Those are quote marks... are you claiming you never said that???
Being the lying motherfucker that I am...
I agree.
No citations
I posted an entire page from the WC verbatim. Once again Gil lies his ass off.
No documents
No testimony
No exhibits
No witness videos
None of the above was necessary ...
They do no research of their own, preferring to take the lazy way out
and fall back on the conclusions of the Warren Commission Report.
The conclusions of the WCR have stood the test of time...
You can gain NO KNOWLEDGE from their posts.
What they DO post are comments, speculation, opinion and ( when that
doesn't work ) insults.
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