• Re: The Murder Of J.D. Tippit

    From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to David Von Pein on Mon Sep 11 15:55:47 2023
    On Tuesday, December 25, 2007 at 8:14:05 PM UTC-8, David Von Pein wrote:
    "HOLIDAY RE-POST SPECIAL" #5 (From October 2006):

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    Let's Talk About The Killing Of Dallas Police Officer J.D. Tippit (Lee
    Harvey Oswald's Second Murder Victim On November 22nd, 1963)...... -----------------------------------------------------
    A double-murderer by the name of Lee Harvey Oswald (alias Alek James
    Hidell) shot and killed President John Kennedy and Dallas policeman
    J.D. Tippit in the year 1963. The evidence of Oswald's guilt in these
    crimes is wide and far-reaching.
    But many people refuse to buy into the official version of these
    killings as declared by the Warren Commission in late 1964. The
    naysayers think that the evidence against Mr. Oswald has been
    manipulated to falsely implicate only LHO in these heinous acts of
    violence.
    With respect to the murder of Officer Tippit specifically, many
    conspiracy theorists feel that the 39-year-old Dallas patrolman was
    killed by a gunman (not Oswald, naturally) who was using an
    "automatic"
    weapon, instead of a "revolver". (Oswald was arrested a short distance
    from the Tippit crime scene with a .38 revolver on him as he attempted
    to use it on officers in the theater itself.)
    But the "automatic" vs. "revolver" controversy has been thoroughly
    explained many times since 1963, including by one of the Dallas
    policemen who was directly involved in this controversy on the day of
    the Tippit murder (11/22/63), Gerald L. Hill.
    Sergeant Hill had originally put out a broadcast over the DPD police
    radio stating that the killer was probably carrying an "automatic"
    type
    of weapon. But in 1986, Hill tried to clear up the confusion about the
    gun with these comments:
    "I assumed that it was an automatic simply because we had found all
    the
    hulls in one little general area. .... If you find a cluster of
    shells,
    you have to assume that they were fired from an automatic." -- Gerald
    Hill quote (Via Dale K. Myers' book, "With Malice: Lee Harvey Oswald
    And The Murder Of Officer J.D. Tippit"; Pp. 260-261)
    Also -- As pointed out in Mr. Myers' first-rate book which probes
    every
    last nook and cranny of the Tippit murder (and thoroughly verifies
    Oswald's guilt in the crime from every angle), the very first
    indication that Tippit's killer might have had an automatic weapon
    actually came not from a policeman, but from used-car salesman (and eyewitness) Ted Callaway.
    Page 258 of "With Malice":
    "All things considered, it appears the initial reference to an
    'automatic' weapon stemmed from Callaway's mistaken impression that
    the
    gunman was pushing a fresh magazine into the handle of an automatic
    weapon. The Davis women {witnesses Barbara Davis and Virginia Davis}
    had a close-up view of the reality of the situation; the gunman had
    both arms up, his right hand shaking shells from an open revolver into
    his left {hand}."
    Another thing that makes no sense whatsoever (if a person wants to
    believe that an automatic gun was used to kill Tippit) is the fact
    that
    the 3rd and 4th bullet shells that were recovered that day (the ones
    found by the two Davis ladies) were found in the Davis' SIDE YARD on
    Patton Avenue; i.e., in a location where a gunman firing an automatic
    at J.D. Tippit couldn't possibly have even SEEN Officer Tippit (who
    was
    located around the corner and many yards up 10th Street). The Davis
    apartment building was blocking the view of any such gunman who would
    have dropped shells from a gun WHILE FIRING from that location.*
    * = See Page 266 of "With Malice" for a good photographic example of
    how silly the "Automatic" theory is when looking at where these two
    shells were found. Do CTers think the gunman kicked the automatic
    shells into the Davis' side yard?
    Or, in a "They Were Planted/Switched By The Police" theory -- why
    would
    the police plant the two shells in the Davis' yard and just leave them
    for the Davis women to find? Why wouldn't the crooked cops pick up the
    shells themselves after conveniently planting them?
    Or, the crooked shell-switching cops could merely SAY they found two
    more Oswald shells in the Davis' yard, instead of allowing one or more non-conspirators (like the two Davis women) to pick them up and do
    anything they wanted to with them...even keep them, as is purported in
    Myers' book with regard to a possible fifth bullet shell.
    It's rumored that the Davis' father-in-law might have, indeed, picked
    up a 5th shell in the Davis yard and kept it for a souvenir. That
    sounds kind of crazy, I guess. But it would explain some loose ends
    quite nicely, including the mis-match of the bullets and shells at the
    Tippit scene, and the "5 pistol shots" that Ted Callaway always
    adamantly maintained he heard on 11/22/63 from his nearby car lot.
    It burns me up greatly when conspiracy kooks have the nerve to imply
    that Oswald wasn't even at the Tippit murder scene, when virtually
    every single piece of physical and circumstantial evidence surrounding
    this particular murder indicates just the opposite.
    The "All The Evidence Is Worthless" dodge is nothing but a big cop-
    out,
    plain and simple. If the evidence is really tainted, CTers need to
    provide some semblance of solid proof of that sinister allegation.
    Tell
    the world WHO exactly it was who faked the evidence (with a dose of verifiable proof too, which would be a refreshing change-of-pace). And
    tell the world if there was even one person on the planet who
    witnessed
    any "switching" of bullet shells at the murder scene (or elsewhere).
    Alas, nobody can do that, because nothing shady like that occurred at
    all, except in a CTer's theory-laden mind. We're about as likely to
    get
    some verifiable proof of a police "cover-up" with respect to the JFK
    and J.D. Tippit murders as we are to witness the sun crashing into the
    Earth a week from Thursday.
    Just having Lee Oswald in the general area of the crime, with a gun,
    and acting "funny" and obviously avoiding the police is a good hunk of circumstantial evidence leading to his guilt right there.
    Where does the road of common sense take a reasonable person when JUST
    the above after-the-shooting activity of Lee Harvey Oswald is examined objectively? It sure doesn't lead to total innocence, I'll tell ya
    that
    right now. (Especially when the stuff that went on inside the movie
    theater is factored in as well.) ---------------------------------------------
    MORE ON THE TIPPIT MURDER (AND A REVIEW OF DALE MYERS' BOOK)...... http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/discussions/start-thread.html/ref=cm_rdp_dp/103-9597227-6764635?ie=UTF8&ASIN=0966270975&store=yourstore&reviewID=RX09PCPWL9RCH&iid=0966270975&displayType=ReviewDetail
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    In a nutshell, this murder boils to down the following concrete fact
    (based on the overall weight of the evidence that surrounds the
    crime)......
    If Lee Harvey Oswald didn't kill J.D. Tippit -- then J.D. Tippit
    wasn't
    killed at all. Maybe it was all some kind of "Bobby Was In The Shower"
    type of dream or something instead.
    David Von Pein
    October 2006

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