Evidence of Extra Bullets and/or Missed Shots
http://michaelgriffith1.tripod.com/extras.htm
As the limousine passed the front steps of the Texas School Book
Depository,
five witnesses saw a bullet strike the pavement on Elm Street near the
left
front of the car; it kicked up a cloud of dust and bits of concrete in
the
direction of the car (Michael Griffith, "Extra Bullets and Missed
Shots in
Dealey Plaza"; Weisberg, Whitewash, 187-89).
Royce Skelton was a railroad worker watching the motorcade from atop
the triple
underpass. He told the Warren Commission, "I saw a bullet, or I guess
it was a
bullet -- I take for granted it was -- hit in the left front of the President's
car on the cement, and when it did, the smoke carried with it -- away
from the
building. . . . on the pavement -- you know, pavement when it is hit
with a hard
object, it will scatter -- it will spread" (6 H 238).
Dallas policeman Starvis Ellis was riding a motorcycle about 100 feet
in front
of the President's limousine. When the shooting began, Ellis turned
the
limousine a nd saw debris fly up, presumably from this same bullet
strike (John
S. Craig, "The Guns of Dealey Plaza"). Mrs. Virginia Baker also saw
it; she
believed the shots came from in front of the car by the triple
underpass (7 H
508-10).
One shot missed the limousine and struck a spot in the grass just
south of Elm
Street, about 350 feet from the Book Depository. Officer J. W. Foster
was
standing on top of the triple underpass, and had a clear view of Elm;
he saw
the bullet strike the turf. He reported this to a superior, and was instructed
to guard the area (Shaw and Harris, 72-75. Journalists and bystanders
were kept
away from the area. This could be the first shot that missed,
although, again,
it would have to have been a truly terrible shot.
Wayne and Edna Hartman were near Dealey Plaza when the shots rang out.
They ran
through the Plaza and encountered a policeman on the grassy knoll.
Edna Hartman
later recalled to Jim Marrs , "He pointed to some bushes near the
railroad tracks
on the north side of the street and said that's where the shots came
from. . . .
Then I noticed these two parallel marks on the ground that looked like mounds
made by a mole. I asked, 'What are these, mole hills?' and the
policeman said,
'Oh no, ma'am, that's where the bullets struck the ground'" (Marrs, Crossfire,
315-16). Photographer Hugh Betzner noticed "police officers and some
men in
plain clothes . . . digging around in the dirt as if they were looking
for a
bullet" (19 H 467-6.
Photographers Jim Murray and Bill Allen took a famous sequence of
pictures
showing Deputy Sheriff E. R. "Buddy" Walthers (in civilian clothes)
and
watching a blond-haired man he believed to be an FBI agent point at
the dug-out
spot on the ground just off Elm Street, bend over, scoop something up
from the
turf, then put the item in his pocket. Police Chief Jesse Curry said
the man was
FBI, but he didn't know his name; some have identified him as FBI
Special Agent
Robert Barrett . . . The photographs have been widely published.
Murray also
photographed the hole that was left in the turf after the scene had
been
cleared; this photograph ran in the following day's Fort Worth Star- Telegram,
captioned, "One of the rifle bullets fired by the murderer of
President Kennedy
lies in the grass across Elm Street . . ." The Dallas Times-Herald
reported in
reference to the hole in the grass, "Dallas Police Lt. J. C. Day of
the crime
lab estimated the distance from the sixth-floor window . . . to the
spot where
one of the bullets was recovered at 100 yards."
Richard Randolph Carr . . . heard four shots fired, the last three of
which he
believed came from behind the wooden stockade fence on the grassy
knoll. He saw
a bullet strike the turf opp osite the knoll where it "knocked a bunch
of grass
up." Judging from the mark on the grass, Carr said the bullet had
been
traveling in a southeast direction from the knoll toward the Criminal
Courts
building at Elm and Houston (Shaw trial transcript; HSCA volumes;
Craig).
Richard Dudman wrote in the December 21, 1963, New Republic: "On the
say the
President was shot I happened to learn of a possible fifth [bullet]. A
group of
police officers were examining the area at the side of the street
where the
President was hit, and a police inspector told me they had just found another
bullet in the grass."
The Warren Commission took Buddy Walthers' word that it wasn't a
bullet or
bullet fragment.
There was another bullet strike only about three to five feet from
this one,
but it wasn't noticed right away. Dealey Plaza witness John Martin discovered
it two and a half hours after the shooting, and quickly informed a policeman, < BR>"you better get your boss down here to check this
thing out, because that will
show you where the bullet came from" (Griffith; Trask, 573). The mark
very
clearly does not point back to the Texas School Book Depository; it
appears to
have struck from the direction of the County Records Building, where a
30.06
bullet shell was found later (Griffith; Trask, 573).
Jim Murray took a number of photographs of police officers examining
the spot,
including identifications officer Lt. Carl Day, who spent some time at
this
spot with his crime lab kit (Trask). Because of the close proximity of
the
strikes, it is possible that a bullet struck the manhole and bounced
into the
grass, but given the high visibility of the grass strike and the
reasonably
deep gouge in the turf, it's unlikely.
Another bullet struck the sidewalk along the north side of Elm Street.
It
apparently was first discovered a day or two later by Dallas resident
Eugene
Aldredge -- a gash about four inches long and a quarter of an inch
deep.
Aldredge didn't report it to anyone, assuming it had not gone
unnoticed by the
authorities. At least one photograph of it was taken; it is pictured
on several
books, including Groden's The Killing of the President, 40. After the
Warren
Report came out, Aldredge was shocked not to see the missed bullet
mentioned and
notified the FBI (Weisberg, Never Again, 383-390). The FBI located it
and wrote
up a report describing it as approximately four inches long, a half
inch wide,
and a "dug out" appearance. Dallas Morning News reporter Carl Freund
also
identified the mark as a bullet strike. Groden notes that the gash
lines up with
the southwest sixth floor TSBD window; Harrison Livingstone notes it
also lines
up with the south storm drain by the triple underpass (Griffith; Livingstone,
High Treason 2).
There are numerous reports of other missed shots; some bullet s have
even been
found in Dealey Plaza, literally years after the assassination. In
1975, a
maintenance man named Morgan found a 30.06 shell on the roof of the
County
Records Building, which is about half a block south of the Book
Depository. The
casing has an odd crimp in its neck, suggesting it may have been fired
from a
sabot, a device used to fire a smaller caliber bullet out of a large
caliber
weapon. This is useful for criminals, as the caliber, type, and brand
of the
recovered bullet cannot be linked with their gun (Marrs, Crossfire,
317). The
shell had been hidden underneath a lip of roofing tar, and was
greatly
deteriorated from exposure to moisture; it had obviously been there a
while.
A fired but intact bullet was found on the top of the Massey Roofing
Co.
building on Elm Street, about eight blocks from the TSBD, by Richard Haythorne
in 1967. No official study was made until the HSCA pronounced it a
jacketed,
soft-p oint .30 caliber bullet consistent with Remington-Peters
ammunition; it
had not been fired from the 6.5 caliber Mannlicher-Carcano (7 HSCA
357; Carol
Hewett, "Silencers, Sniper Rifles & the CIA"; Craig).
In 1974, Dallas resident Richard Lester swept Dealey Plaza with a
metal
detector, and discovered a fragment -- the base portion of a bullet --
500
yards southwest of the TSBD and 61 paces east of the triple underpass.
Later he
turned it over to the FBI, and it was studied by the House Select
Committee on
Assassinations in 1978. They found that the fragment was from a 6.5 mm bullet,
but that it had not been fired from the alleged "Oswald" Mannlicher- Carcano: its
rifling pattern was different (Associated Press, January 5, 1978; 7
HSCA 395;
Hewett). A whole, unfired .45 caliber bullet was found in 1976 by Hal
Luster by
the concrete retaining wall on the knoll (Dallas Morning News,
December 23, 1978).
In the summer of 1966 , an intact bullet was found lodged in the roof
of a
building at 1615 Stemmons Freeway by William Barbee. The building was
about a
quarter mile away from the Texas School Book Depository -- within
rifle range
-- in the direction that Oswald had allegedly fired. The FBI
identified the
bullet as a .30 caliber full metal jacketed military bullet; its
rifling
pattern of four grooves, right hand twist is consistent with
ammunition of US
manufacture. This is the type of bullet the CIA used with their
silenced M-1
.30 caliber carbine rifles; civilians were not allowed to purchase
them until
the middle of 1963, and full metal jacketed bullets are illegal for
use in
hunting (Hewett, citing FBI Doc. #62-109060-5898).
Two spent Remington .222 bullet casings were found in Dealey Plaza by
John
Rademacher, about eighty feet apart, one on each end of the concrete
pergola
that stands midway between the Texas School Book Depository and the
triple
underpass. One was just to the east, while the other was just west of
it,
between the pergola and the wooden stockade fence on the grassy knoll.
One of
the casings has strange indentations which appear to be teeth marks on
it.
Carol Hewett also notes, "The HSCA makes passing reference to the
'Walder'
bullet that was also submitted for testing; the author could find no
other
mention of this particular item of evidence" (citing 7 HSCA 157).
Hewett also
references "the report from a top FBI administrator, Alan Belmont, to
Clyde
Tolson, Hoover's second in command, in which Belmont on the night of November
22nd advises that a bullet has been found lodged behind the
President's ear"
(citing FBI Doc. #62-109060-1431), consistent with the Sibert-O'Neill evidence
envelope that was supposed to contain a "missile," not a fragment or fragments.
Is there any evidence that there were once more bullets or fragments
than are
now in th e record?
In Arlen Specter's published questioning of the autopsy pathologists,
he makes
repeated references to a file originally designated CD 371, then
renamed as it
was entered into evidence. Specter introduces Commission Exhibit 397, stating
it is the identical file previously marked CD 371 "for our internal purposes"
(2 H 323). Researcher Harold Weisberg was the first person to notice
that CE
397 seemed to be missing several items, so he went to the National
Archives to
inspect the CD 371. He found some interesting differences between the 'identical' files (Weisberg, Post Mortem, 251). One notable document
is a list
of eleven items written by Secret Service officer Robert I . Bouck,
head of the
Protective Research Section, on Treasury Department letterhead, dated November
26, 1963. It acknowledges receipt of eleven items from Admiral George
G.
Burkley, who had been John F. Kennedy's personal physician, and who
took
posses sion (not necessarily in a legal manner) of a number of the
autopsy
records. The seventh item on the list reads, "One receipt from FBI for
a
missile recovered during the examination of the body."
A missile is a bullet. It is not a bullet fragment; a fragment is a
piece of a
ruptured missile. Numerous minute fragments were recovered from the President's
body during the autopsy. Not a single receipt for a fragment or
fragments is
listed on this document; they were transferred separately. This is a
receipt for
an intact bullet recovered from John F. Kennedy's body; it appeared in
print for
the first time in Weisberg's 1975 book, Post Mortem, 527.
Researcher Anna-Marie Kuhns-Walko turned up some interesting items at
the
National Archives in 1996: photographs (several) labeled as being of a bullet
"removed from President Kennedy's body." It is not one of the tiny
fragments
that have been part of the record for thirty-five years. No other information
is available: no photographer listed; no indication of when it was recovered;
or what part of the body it came from; or if it was recovered at
Parkland,
Bethesda, or elsewhere. Just several photos of a bullet "removed from President
Kennedy's body" that no one's ever seen before.
Anna-Marie also discovered an empty envelope, originally marked,
"Shell 7.5
found in Dealey Plaza 11/22/63. This would be an expended cartridge
found
somewhere in Dealey Plaza, presumably not far from where it was fired;
and
regardless of where in Dealey Plaza it was found (which the envelope
doesn't
state), it's a 7.5 caliber, not a 6.5 caliber like the Mannlicher-
Carcano. No
one outside a very select circle, apparently, ever heard of this item before.
Why is the envelope empty? Written right after the previously quoted description: "DETERMINED OF NO VALUE AND DESTROYED."
********************************************************
*************
The above post was snipped to the relevant paragraphs dealing with
evidence for
more than 3 bullets. I invite everyone to Google and read the original
if
interested. There's more material in the original - and I snipped out
some good
stuff that simply wasn't relevant to this post.
Clearly *some* of the snippets above could easily be referring to the
*same*
bullet - simply at different perspective by different eyewitnesses.
And some of
the snippets above could easily have had *no* relevance to 11/22/63.
But the WC
ignored and ran from such evidence with a determination that can only
lead
thoughtful people to the conclusion that they had already made up
their minds.
The point I might make here is... where did the WC deal with all of
this
evidence? Can anyone point to *ANY* attempt by the WC to explain away
this
massive amount of evidence for more than three bullets? Examine the
evidence at
all? Ask the FBI for clarification?
_________________
Justice is like the hawk. Sometimes it must go hooded.[/quote]
Evidence of Extra Bullets and/or Missed Shots
http://michaelgriffith1.tripod.com/extras.htm
As the limousine passed the front steps of the Texas School Book
Depository,
five witnesses saw a bullet strike the pavement on Elm Street near the
left
front of the car; it kicked up a cloud of dust and bits of concrete in
the
direction of the car (Michael Griffith, "Extra Bullets and Missed
Shots in
Dealey Plaza"; Weisberg, Whitewash, 187-89).
Royce Skelton was a railroad worker watching the motorcade from atop
the triple
underpass. He told the Warren Commission, "I saw a bullet, or I guess
it was a
bullet -- I take for granted it was -- hit in the left front of the President's
car on the cement, and when it did, the smoke carried with it -- away
from the
building. . . . on the pavement -- you know, pavement when it is hit
with a hard
object, it will scatter -- it will spread" (6 H 238).
Dallas policeman Starvis Ellis was riding a motorcycle about 100 feet
in front
of the President's limousine. When the shooting began, Ellis turned
the
limousine a nd saw debris fly up, presumably from this same bullet
strike (John
S. Craig, "The Guns of Dealey Plaza"). Mrs. Virginia Baker also saw
it; she
believed the shots came from in front of the car by the triple
underpass (7 H
508-10).
One shot missed the limousine and struck a spot in the grass just
south of Elm
Street, about 350 feet from the Book Depository. Officer J. W. Foster
was
standing on top of the triple underpass, and had a clear view of Elm;
he saw
the bullet strike the turf. He reported this to a superior, and was instructed
to guard the area (Shaw and Harris, 72-75. Journalists and bystanders
were kept
away from the area. This could be the first shot that missed,
although, again,
it would have to have been a truly terrible shot.
Wayne and Edna Hartman were near Dealey Plaza when the shots rang out.
They ran
through the Plaza and encountered a policeman on the grassy knoll.
Edna Hartman
later recalled to Jim Marrs , "He pointed to some bushes near the
railroad tracks
on the north side of the street and said that's where the shots came
from. . . .
Then I noticed these two parallel marks on the ground that looked like mounds
made by a mole. I asked, 'What are these, mole hills?' and the
policeman said,
'Oh no, ma'am, that's where the bullets struck the ground'" (Marrs, Crossfire,
315-16). Photographer Hugh Betzner noticed "police officers and some
men in
plain clothes . . . digging around in the dirt as if they were looking
for a
bullet" (19 H 467-6.
Photographers Jim Murray and Bill Allen took a famous sequence of
pictures
showing Deputy Sheriff E. R. "Buddy" Walthers (in civilian clothes)
and
watching a blond-haired man he believed to be an FBI agent point at
the dug-out
spot on the ground just off Elm Street, bend over, scoop something up
from the
turf, then put the item in his pocket. Police Chief Jesse Curry said
the man was
FBI, but he didn't know his name; some have identified him as FBI
Special Agent
Robert Barrett . . . The photographs have been widely published.
Murray also
photographed the hole that was left in the turf after the scene had
been
cleared; this photograph ran in the following day's Fort Worth Star- Telegram,
captioned, "One of the rifle bullets fired by the murderer of
President Kennedy
lies in the grass across Elm Street . . ." The Dallas Times-Herald
reported in
reference to the hole in the grass, "Dallas Police Lt. J. C. Day of
the crime
lab estimated the distance from the sixth-floor window . . . to the
spot where
one of the bullets was recovered at 100 yards."
Richard Randolph Carr . . . heard four shots fired, the last three of
which he
believed came from behind the wooden stockade fence on the grassy
knoll. He saw
a bullet strike the turf opp osite the knoll where it "knocked a bunch
of grass
up." Judging from the mark on the grass, Carr said the bullet had
been
traveling in a southeast direction from the knoll toward the Criminal
Courts
building at Elm and Houston (Shaw trial transcript; HSCA volumes;
Craig).
Richard Dudman wrote in the December 21, 1963, New Republic: "On the
say the
President was shot I happened to learn of a possible fifth [bullet]. A
group of
police officers were examining the area at the side of the street
where the
President was hit, and a police inspector told me they had just found another
bullet in the grass."
The Warren Commission took Buddy Walthers' word that it wasn't a
bullet or
bullet fragment.
There was another bullet strike only about three to five feet from
this one,
but it wasn't noticed right away. Dealey Plaza witness John Martin discovered
it two and a half hours after the shooting, and quickly informed a policeman, < BR>"you better get your boss down here to check this
thing out, because that will
show you where the bullet came from" (Griffith; Trask, 573). The mark
very
clearly does not point back to the Texas School Book Depository; it
appears to
have struck from the direction of the County Records Building, where a
30.06
bullet shell was found later (Griffith; Trask, 573).
Jim Murray took a number of photographs of police officers examining
the spot,
including identifications officer Lt. Carl Day, who spent some time at
this
spot with his crime lab kit (Trask). Because of the close proximity of
the
strikes, it is possible that a bullet struck the manhole and bounced
into the
grass, but given the high visibility of the grass strike and the
reasonably
deep gouge in the turf, it's unlikely.
Another bullet struck the sidewalk along the north side of Elm Street.
It
apparently was first discovered a day or two later by Dallas resident
Eugene
Aldredge -- a gash about four inches long and a quarter of an inch
deep.
Aldredge didn't report it to anyone, assuming it had not gone
unnoticed by the
authorities. At least one photograph of it was taken; it is pictured
on several
books, including Groden's The Killing of the President, 40. After the
Warren
Report came out, Aldredge was shocked not to see the missed bullet
mentioned and
notified the FBI (Weisberg, Never Again, 383-390). The FBI located it
and wrote
up a report describing it as approximately four inches long, a half
inch wide,
and a "dug out" appearance. Dallas Morning News reporter Carl Freund
also
identified the mark as a bullet strike. Groden notes that the gash
lines up with
the southwest sixth floor TSBD window; Harrison Livingstone notes it
also lines
up with the south storm drain by the triple underpass (Griffith; Livingstone,
High Treason 2).
There are numerous reports of other missed shots; some bullet s have
even been
found in Dealey Plaza, literally years after the assassination. In
1975, a
maintenance man named Morgan found a 30.06 shell on the roof of the
County
Records Building, which is about half a block south of the Book
Depository. The
casing has an odd crimp in its neck, suggesting it may have been fired
from a
sabot, a device used to fire a smaller caliber bullet out of a large
caliber
weapon. This is useful for criminals, as the caliber, type, and brand
of the
recovered bullet cannot be linked with their gun (Marrs, Crossfire,
317). The
shell had been hidden underneath a lip of roofing tar, and was
greatly
deteriorated from exposure to moisture; it had obviously been there a
while.
A fired but intact bullet was found on the top of the Massey Roofing
Co.
building on Elm Street, about eight blocks from the TSBD, by Richard Haythorne
in 1967. No official study was made until the HSCA pronounced it a
jacketed,
soft-p oint .30 caliber bullet consistent with Remington-Peters
ammunition; it
had not been fired from the 6.5 caliber Mannlicher-Carcano (7 HSCA
357; Carol
Hewett, "Silencers, Sniper Rifles & the CIA"; Craig).
In 1974, Dallas resident Richard Lester swept Dealey Plaza with a
metal
detector, and discovered a fragment -- the base portion of a bullet --
500
yards southwest of the TSBD and 61 paces east of the triple underpass.
Later he
turned it over to the FBI, and it was studied by the House Select
Committee on
Assassinations in 1978. They found that the fragment was from a 6.5 mm bullet,
but that it had not been fired from the alleged "Oswald" Mannlicher- Carcano: its
rifling pattern was different (Associated Press, January 5, 1978; 7
HSCA 395;
Hewett). A whole, unfired .45 caliber bullet was found in 1976 by Hal
Luster by
the concrete retaining wall on the knoll (Dallas Morning News,
December 23, 1978).
In the summer of 1966 , an intact bullet was found lodged in the roof
of a
building at 1615 Stemmons Freeway by William Barbee. The building was
about a
quarter mile away from the Texas School Book Depository -- within
rifle range
-- in the direction that Oswald had allegedly fired. The FBI
identified the
bullet as a .30 caliber full metal jacketed military bullet; its
rifling
pattern of four grooves, right hand twist is consistent with
ammunition of US
manufacture. This is the type of bullet the CIA used with their
silenced M-1
.30 caliber carbine rifles; civilians were not allowed to purchase
them until
the middle of 1963, and full metal jacketed bullets are illegal for
use in
hunting (Hewett, citing FBI Doc. #62-109060-5898).
Two spent Remington .222 bullet casings were found in Dealey Plaza by
John
Rademacher, about eighty feet apart, one on each end of the concrete
pergola
that stands midway between the Texas School Book Depository and the
triple
underpass. One was just to the east, while the other was just west of
it,
between the pergola and the wooden stockade fence on the grassy knoll.
One of
the casings has strange indentations which appear to be teeth marks on
it.
Carol Hewett also notes, "The HSCA makes passing reference to the
'Walder'
bullet that was also submitted for testing; the author could find no
other
mention of this particular item of evidence" (citing 7 HSCA 157).
Hewett also
references "the report from a top FBI administrator, Alan Belmont, to
Clyde
Tolson, Hoover's second in command, in which Belmont on the night of November
22nd advises that a bullet has been found lodged behind the
President's ear"
(citing FBI Doc. #62-109060-1431), consistent with the Sibert-O'Neill evidence
envelope that was supposed to contain a "missile," not a fragment or fragments.
Is there any evidence that there were once more bullets or fragments
than are
now in th e record?
In Arlen Specter's published questioning of the autopsy pathologists,
he makes
repeated references to a file originally designated CD 371, then
renamed as it
was entered into evidence. Specter introduces Commission Exhibit 397, stating
it is the identical file previously marked CD 371 "for our internal purposes"
(2 H 323). Researcher Harold Weisberg was the first person to notice
that CE
397 seemed to be missing several items, so he went to the National
Archives to
inspect the CD 371. He found some interesting differences between the 'identical' files (Weisberg, Post Mortem, 251). One notable document
is a list
of eleven items written by Secret Service officer Robert I . Bouck,
head of the
Protective Research Section, on Treasury Department letterhead, dated November
26, 1963. It acknowledges receipt of eleven items from Admiral George
G.
Burkley, who had been John F. Kennedy's personal physician, and who
took
posses sion (not necessarily in a legal manner) of a number of the
autopsy
records. The seventh item on the list reads, "One receipt from FBI for
a
missile recovered during the examination of the body."
A missile is a bullet. It is not a bullet fragment; a fragment is a
piece of a
ruptured missile. Numerous minute fragments were recovered from the President's
body during the autopsy. Not a single receipt for a fragment or
fragments is
listed on this document; they were transferred separately. This is a
receipt for
an intact bullet recovered from John F. Kennedy's body; it appeared in
print for
the first time in Weisberg's 1975 book, Post Mortem, 527.
Researcher Anna-Marie Kuhns-Walko turned up some interesting items at
the
National Archives in 1996: photographs (several) labeled as being of a bullet
"removed from President Kennedy's body." It is not one of the tiny
fragments
that have been part of the record for thirty-five years. No other information
is available: no photographer listed; no indication of when it was recovered;
or what part of the body it came from; or if it was recovered at
Parkland,
Bethesda, or elsewhere. Just several photos of a bullet "removed from President
Kennedy's body" that no one's ever seen before.
Anna-Marie also discovered an empty envelope, originally marked,
"Shell 7.5
found in Dealey Plaza 11/22/63. This would be an expended cartridge
found
somewhere in Dealey Plaza, presumably not far from where it was fired;
and
regardless of where in Dealey Plaza it was found (which the envelope
doesn't
state), it's a 7.5 caliber, not a 6.5 caliber like the Mannlicher-
Carcano. No
one outside a very select circle, apparently, ever heard of this item before.
Why is the envelope empty? Written right after the previously quoted description: "DETERMINED OF NO VALUE AND DESTROYED."
********************************************************
*************
The above post was snipped to the relevant paragraphs dealing with
evidence for
more than 3 bullets. I invite everyone to Google and read the original
if
interested. There's more material in the original - and I snipped out
some good
stuff that simply wasn't relevant to this post.
Clearly *some* of the snippets above could easily be referring to the
*same*
bullet - simply at different perspective by different eyewitnesses.
And some of
the snippets above could easily have had *no* relevance to 11/22/63.
But the WC
ignored and ran from such evidence with a determination that can only
lead
thoughtful people to the conclusion that they had already made up
their minds.
The point I might make here is... where did the WC deal with all of
this
evidence? Can anyone point to *ANY* attempt by the WC to explain away
this
massive amount of evidence for more than three bullets? Examine the
evidence at
all? Ask the FBI for clarification?
_________________
Justice is like the hawk. Sometimes it must go hooded.[/quote]
Evidence of Extra Bullets and/or Missed Shots
http://michaelgriffith1.tripod.com/extras.htm
As the limousine passed the front steps of the Texas School Book
Depository,
five witnesses saw a bullet strike the pavement on Elm Street near the
left
front of the car; it kicked up a cloud of dust and bits of concrete in
the
direction of the car (Michael Griffith, "Extra Bullets and Missed
Shots in
Dealey Plaza"; Weisberg, Whitewash, 187-89).
Royce Skelton was a railroad worker watching the motorcade from atop
the triple
underpass. He told the Warren Commission, "I saw a bullet, or I guess
it was a
bullet -- I take for granted it was -- hit in the left front of the President's
car on the cement, and when it did, the smoke carried with it -- away
from the
building. . . . on the pavement -- you know, pavement when it is hit
with a hard
object, it will scatter -- it will spread" (6 H 238).
Dallas policeman Starvis Ellis was riding a motorcycle about 100 feet
in front
of the President's limousine. When the shooting began, Ellis turned
the
limousine a nd saw debris fly up, presumably from this same bullet
strike (John
S. Craig, "The Guns of Dealey Plaza"). Mrs. Virginia Baker also saw
it; she
believed the shots came from in front of the car by the triple
underpass (7 H
508-10).
One shot missed the limousine and struck a spot in the grass just
south of Elm
Street, about 350 feet from the Book Depository. Officer J. W. Foster
was
standing on top of the triple underpass, and had a clear view of Elm;
he saw
the bullet strike the turf. He reported this to a superior, and was instructed
to guard the area (Shaw and Harris, 72-75. Journalists and bystanders
were kept
away from the area. This could be the first shot that missed,
although, again,
it would have to have been a truly terrible shot.
Wayne and Edna Hartman were near Dealey Plaza when the shots rang out.
They ran
through the Plaza and encountered a policeman on the grassy knoll.
Edna Hartman
later recalled to Jim Marrs , "He pointed to some bushes near the
railroad tracks
on the north side of the street and said that's where the shots came
from. . . .
Then I noticed these two parallel marks on the ground that looked like mounds
made by a mole. I asked, 'What are these, mole hills?' and the
policeman said,
'Oh no, ma'am, that's where the bullets struck the ground'" (Marrs, Crossfire,
315-16). Photographer Hugh Betzner noticed "police officers and some
men in
plain clothes . . . digging around in the dirt as if they were looking
for a
bullet" (19 H 467-6.
Photographers Jim Murray and Bill Allen took a famous sequence of
pictures
showing Deputy Sheriff E. R. "Buddy" Walthers (in civilian clothes)
and
watching a blond-haired man he believed to be an FBI agent point at
the dug-out
spot on the ground just off Elm Street, bend over, scoop something up
from the
turf, then put the item in his pocket. Police Chief Jesse Curry said
the man was
FBI, but he didn't know his name; some have identified him as FBI
Special Agent
Robert Barrett . . . The photographs have been widely published.
Murray also
photographed the hole that was left in the turf after the scene had
been
cleared; this photograph ran in the following day's Fort Worth Star- Telegram,
captioned, "One of the rifle bullets fired by the murderer of
President Kennedy
lies in the grass across Elm Street . . ." The Dallas Times-Herald
reported in
reference to the hole in the grass, "Dallas Police Lt. J. C. Day of
the crime
lab estimated the distance from the sixth-floor window . . . to the
spot where
one of the bullets was recovered at 100 yards."
Richard Randolph Carr . . . heard four shots fired, the last three of
which he
believed came from behind the wooden stockade fence on the grassy
knoll. He saw
a bullet strike the turf opp osite the knoll where it "knocked a bunch
of grass
up." Judging from the mark on the grass, Carr said the bullet had
been
traveling in a southeast direction from the knoll toward the Criminal
Courts
building at Elm and Houston (Shaw trial transcript; HSCA volumes;
Craig).
Richard Dudman wrote in the December 21, 1963, New Republic: "On the
say the
President was shot I happened to learn of a possible fifth [bullet]. A
group of
police officers were examining the area at the side of the street
where the
President was hit, and a police inspector told me they had just found another
bullet in the grass."
The Warren Commission took Buddy Walthers' word that it wasn't a
bullet or
bullet fragment.
There was another bullet strike only about three to five feet from
this one,
but it wasn't noticed right away. Dealey Plaza witness John Martin discovered
it two and a half hours after the shooting, and quickly informed a policeman, < BR>"you better get your boss down here to check this
thing out, because that will
show you where the bullet came from" (Griffith; Trask, 573). The mark
very
clearly does not point back to the Texas School Book Depository; it
appears to
have struck from the direction of the County Records Building, where a
30.06
bullet shell was found later (Griffith; Trask, 573).
Jim Murray took a number of photographs of police officers examining
the spot,
including identifications officer Lt. Carl Day, who spent some time at
this
spot with his crime lab kit (Trask). Because of the close proximity of
the
strikes, it is possible that a bullet struck the manhole and bounced
into the
grass, but given the high visibility of the grass strike and the
reasonably
deep gouge in the turf, it's unlikely.
Another bullet struck the sidewalk along the north side of Elm Street.
It
apparently was first discovered a day or two later by Dallas resident
Eugene
Aldredge -- a gash about four inches long and a quarter of an inch
deep.
Aldredge didn't report it to anyone, assuming it had not gone
unnoticed by the
authorities. At least one photograph of it was taken; it is pictured
on several
books, including Groden's The Killing of the President, 40. After the
Warren
Report came out, Aldredge was shocked not to see the missed bullet
mentioned and
notified the FBI (Weisberg, Never Again, 383-390). The FBI located it
and wrote
up a report describing it as approximately four inches long, a half
inch wide,
and a "dug out" appearance. Dallas Morning News reporter Carl Freund
also
identified the mark as a bullet strike. Groden notes that the gash
lines up with
the southwest sixth floor TSBD window; Harrison Livingstone notes it
also lines
up with the south storm drain by the triple underpass (Griffith; Livingstone,
High Treason 2).
There are numerous reports of other missed shots; some bullet s have
even been
found in Dealey Plaza, literally years after the assassination. In
1975, a
maintenance man named Morgan found a 30.06 shell on the roof of the
County
Records Building, which is about half a block south of the Book
Depository. The
casing has an odd crimp in its neck, suggesting it may have been fired
from a
sabot, a device used to fire a smaller caliber bullet out of a large
caliber
weapon. This is useful for criminals, as the caliber, type, and brand
of the
recovered bullet cannot be linked with their gun (Marrs, Crossfire,
317). The
shell had been hidden underneath a lip of roofing tar, and was
greatly
deteriorated from exposure to moisture; it had obviously been there a
while.
A fired but intact bullet was found on the top of the Massey Roofing
Co.
building on Elm Street, about eight blocks from the TSBD, by Richard Haythorne
in 1967. No official study was made until the HSCA pronounced it a
jacketed,
soft-p oint .30 caliber bullet consistent with Remington-Peters
ammunition; it
had not been fired from the 6.5 caliber Mannlicher-Carcano (7 HSCA
357; Carol
Hewett, "Silencers, Sniper Rifles & the CIA"; Craig).
In 1974, Dallas resident Richard Lester swept Dealey Plaza with a
metal
detector, and discovered a fragment -- the base portion of a bullet --
500
yards southwest of the TSBD and 61 paces east of the triple underpass.
Later he
turned it over to the FBI, and it was studied by the House Select
Committee on
Assassinations in 1978. They found that the fragment was from a 6.5 mm bullet,
but that it had not been fired from the alleged "Oswald" Mannlicher- Carcano: its
rifling pattern was different (Associated Press, January 5, 1978; 7
HSCA 395;
Hewett). A whole, unfired .45 caliber bullet was found in 1976 by Hal
Luster by
the concrete retaining wall on the knoll (Dallas Morning News,
December 23, 1978).
In the summer of 1966 , an intact bullet was found lodged in the roof
of a
building at 1615 Stemmons Freeway by William Barbee. The building was
about a
quarter mile away from the Texas School Book Depository -- within
rifle range
-- in the direction that Oswald had allegedly fired. The FBI
identified the
bullet as a .30 caliber full metal jacketed military bullet; its
rifling
pattern of four grooves, right hand twist is consistent with
ammunition of US
manufacture. This is the type of bullet the CIA used with their
silenced M-1
.30 caliber carbine rifles; civilians were not allowed to purchase
them until
the middle of 1963, and full metal jacketed bullets are illegal for
use in
hunting (Hewett, citing FBI Doc. #62-109060-5898).
Two spent Remington .222 bullet casings were found in Dealey Plaza by
John
Rademacher, about eighty feet apart, one on each end of the concrete
pergola
that stands midway between the Texas School Book Depository and the
triple
underpass. One was just to the east, while the other was just west of
it,
between the pergola and the wooden stockade fence on the grassy knoll.
One of
the casings has strange indentations which appear to be teeth marks on
it.
Carol Hewett also notes, "The HSCA makes passing reference to the
'Walder'
bullet that was also submitted for testing; the author could find no
other
mention of this particular item of evidence" (citing 7 HSCA 157).
Hewett also
references "the report from a top FBI administrator, Alan Belmont, to
Clyde
Tolson, Hoover's second in command, in which Belmont on the night of November
22nd advises that a bullet has been found lodged behind the
President's ear"
(citing FBI Doc. #62-109060-1431), consistent with the Sibert-O'Neill evidence
envelope that was supposed to contain a "missile," not a fragment or fragments.
Is there any evidence that there were once more bullets or fragments
than are
now in th e record?
In Arlen Specter's published questioning of the autopsy pathologists,
he makes
repeated references to a file originally designated CD 371, then
renamed as it
was entered into evidence. Specter introduces Commission Exhibit 397, stating
it is the identical file previously marked CD 371 "for our internal purposes"
(2 H 323). Researcher Harold Weisberg was the first person to notice
that CE
397 seemed to be missing several items, so he went to the National
Archives to
inspect the CD 371. He found some interesting differences between the 'identical' files (Weisberg, Post Mortem, 251). One notable document
is a list
of eleven items written by Secret Service officer Robert I . Bouck,
head of the
Protective Research Section, on Treasury Department letterhead, dated November
26, 1963. It acknowledges receipt of eleven items from Admiral George
G.
Burkley, who had been John F. Kennedy's personal physician, and who
took
posses sion (not necessarily in a legal manner) of a number of the
autopsy
records. The seventh item on the list reads, "One receipt from FBI for
a
missile recovered during the examination of the body."
A missile is a bullet. It is not a bullet fragment; a fragment is a
piece of a
ruptured missile. Numerous minute fragments were recovered from the President's
body during the autopsy. Not a single receipt for a fragment or
fragments is
listed on this document; they were transferred separately. This is a
receipt for
an intact bullet recovered from John F. Kennedy's body; it appeared in
print for
the first time in Weisberg's 1975 book, Post Mortem, 527.
Researcher Anna-Marie Kuhns-Walko turned up some interesting items at
the
National Archives in 1996: photographs (several) labeled as being of a bullet
"removed from President Kennedy's body." It is not one of the tiny
fragments
that have been part of the record for thirty-five years. No other information
is available: no photographer listed; no indication of when it was recovered;
or what part of the body it came from; or if it was recovered at
Parkland,
Bethesda, or elsewhere. Just several photos of a bullet "removed from President
Kennedy's body" that no one's ever seen before.
Anna-Marie also discovered an empty envelope, originally marked,
"Shell 7.5
found in Dealey Plaza 11/22/63. This would be an expended cartridge
found
somewhere in Dealey Plaza, presumably not far from where it was fired;
and
regardless of where in Dealey Plaza it was found (which the envelope
doesn't
state), it's a 7.5 caliber, not a 6.5 caliber like the Mannlicher-
Carcano. No
one outside a very select circle, apparently, ever heard of this item before.
Why is the envelope empty? Written right after the previously quoted description: "DETERMINED OF NO VALUE AND DESTROYED."
********************************************************
*************
The above post was snipped to the relevant paragraphs dealing with
evidence for
more than 3 bullets. I invite everyone to Google and read the original
if
interested. There's more material in the original - and I snipped out
some good
stuff that simply wasn't relevant to this post.
Clearly *some* of the snippets above could easily be referring to the
*same*
bullet - simply at different perspective by different eyewitnesses.
And some of
the snippets above could easily have had *no* relevance to 11/22/63.
But the WC
ignored and ran from such evidence with a determination that can only
lead
thoughtful people to the conclusion that they had already made up
their minds.
The point I might make here is... where did the WC deal with all of
this
evidence? Can anyone point to *ANY* attempt by the WC to explain away
this
massive amount of evidence for more than three bullets? Examine the
evidence at
all? Ask the FBI for clarification?
_________________
Justice is like the hawk. Sometimes it must go hooded.[/quote]
On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 at 8:15:21 PM UTC-7, curtjester1 wrote:
Evidence of Extra Bullets and/or Missed Shots
http://michaelgriffith1.tripod.com/extras.htm
As the limousine passed the front steps of the Texas School Book Depository,
five witnesses saw a bullet strike the pavement on Elm Street near the left
front of the car; it kicked up a cloud of dust and bits of concrete in
the
direction of the car (Michael Griffith, "Extra Bullets and Missed
Shots in
Dealey Plaza"; Weisberg, Whitewash, 187-89).
Royce Skelton was a railroad worker watching the motorcade from atop
the triple
underpass. He told the Warren Commission, "I saw a bullet, or I guess
it was a
bullet -- I take for granted it was -- hit in the left front of the President's
car on the cement, and when it did, the smoke carried with it -- away
from the
building. . . . on the pavement -- you know, pavement when it is hit
with a hard
object, it will scatter -- it will spread" (6 H 238).
Dallas policeman Starvis Ellis was riding a motorcycle about 100 feet
in front
of the President's limousine. When the shooting began, Ellis turned
the
limousine a nd saw debris fly up, presumably from this same bullet
strike (John
S. Craig, "The Guns of Dealey Plaza"). Mrs. Virginia Baker also saw
it; she
believed the shots came from in front of the car by the triple
underpass (7 H
508-10).
One shot missed the limousine and struck a spot in the grass just
south of Elm
Street, about 350 feet from the Book Depository. Officer J. W. Foster
was
standing on top of the triple underpass, and had a clear view of Elm;
he saw
the bullet strike the turf. He reported this to a superior, and was instructed
to guard the area (Shaw and Harris, 72-75. Journalists and bystanders
were kept
away from the area. This could be the first shot that missed,
although, again,
it would have to have been a truly terrible shot.
Wayne and Edna Hartman were near Dealey Plaza when the shots rang out. They ran
through the Plaza and encountered a policeman on the grassy knoll.
Edna Hartman
later recalled to Jim Marrs , "He pointed to some bushes near the
railroad tracks
on the north side of the street and said that's where the shots came
from. . . .
Then I noticed these two parallel marks on the ground that looked like mounds
made by a mole. I asked, 'What are these, mole hills?' and the
policeman said,
'Oh no, ma'am, that's where the bullets struck the ground'" (Marrs, Crossfire,
315-16). Photographer Hugh Betzner noticed "police officers and some
men in
plain clothes . . . digging around in the dirt as if they were looking
for a
bullet" (19 H 467-6.
Photographers Jim Murray and Bill Allen took a famous sequence of
pictures
showing Deputy Sheriff E. R. "Buddy" Walthers (in civilian clothes)
and
watching a blond-haired man he believed to be an FBI agent point at
the dug-out
spot on the ground just off Elm Street, bend over, scoop something up
from the
turf, then put the item in his pocket. Police Chief Jesse Curry said
the man was
FBI, but he didn't know his name; some have identified him as FBI
Special Agent
Robert Barrett . . . The photographs have been widely published.
Murray also
photographed the hole that was left in the turf after the scene had
been
cleared; this photograph ran in the following day's Fort Worth Star- Telegram,
captioned, "One of the rifle bullets fired by the murderer of
President Kennedy
lies in the grass across Elm Street . . ." The Dallas Times-Herald reported in
reference to the hole in the grass, "Dallas Police Lt. J. C. Day of
the crime
lab estimated the distance from the sixth-floor window . . . to the
spot where
one of the bullets was recovered at 100 yards."
Richard Randolph Carr . . . heard four shots fired, the last three of which he
believed came from behind the wooden stockade fence on the grassy
knoll. He saw
a bullet strike the turf opp osite the knoll where it "knocked a bunch
of grass
up." Judging from the mark on the grass, Carr said the bullet had
been
traveling in a southeast direction from the knoll toward the Criminal Courts
building at Elm and Houston (Shaw trial transcript; HSCA volumes;
Craig).
Richard Dudman wrote in the December 21, 1963, New Republic: "On the
say the
President was shot I happened to learn of a possible fifth [bullet]. A group of
police officers were examining the area at the side of the street
where the
President was hit, and a police inspector told me they had just found another
bullet in the grass."
The Warren Commission took Buddy Walthers' word that it wasn't a
bullet or
bullet fragment.
There was another bullet strike only about three to five feet from
this one,
but it wasn't noticed right away. Dealey Plaza witness John Martin discovered
it two and a half hours after the shooting, and quickly informed a policeman, < BR>"you better get your boss down here to check this
thing out, because that will
show you where the bullet came from" (Griffith; Trask, 573). The mark
very
clearly does not point back to the Texas School Book Depository; it appears to
have struck from the direction of the County Records Building, where a 30.06
bullet shell was found later (Griffith; Trask, 573).
Jim Murray took a number of photographs of police officers examining
the spot,
including identifications officer Lt. Carl Day, who spent some time at this
spot with his crime lab kit (Trask). Because of the close proximity of
the
strikes, it is possible that a bullet struck the manhole and bounced
into the
grass, but given the high visibility of the grass strike and the reasonably
deep gouge in the turf, it's unlikely.
Another bullet struck the sidewalk along the north side of Elm Street.
It
apparently was first discovered a day or two later by Dallas resident Eugene
Aldredge -- a gash about four inches long and a quarter of an inch
deep.
Aldredge didn't report it to anyone, assuming it had not gone
unnoticed by the
authorities. At least one photograph of it was taken; it is pictured
on several
books, including Groden's The Killing of the President, 40. After the Warren
Report came out, Aldredge was shocked not to see the missed bullet mentioned and
notified the FBI (Weisberg, Never Again, 383-390). The FBI located it
and wrote
up a report describing it as approximately four inches long, a half
inch wide,
and a "dug out" appearance. Dallas Morning News reporter Carl Freund
also
identified the mark as a bullet strike. Groden notes that the gash
lines up with
the southwest sixth floor TSBD window; Harrison Livingstone notes it
also lines
up with the south storm drain by the triple underpass (Griffith; Livingstone,
High Treason 2).
There are numerous reports of other missed shots; some bullet s have
even been
found in Dealey Plaza, literally years after the assassination. In
1975, a
maintenance man named Morgan found a 30.06 shell on the roof of the
County
Records Building, which is about half a block south of the Book Depository. The
casing has an odd crimp in its neck, suggesting it may have been fired from a
sabot, a device used to fire a smaller caliber bullet out of a large caliber
weapon. This is useful for criminals, as the caliber, type, and brand
of the
recovered bullet cannot be linked with their gun (Marrs, Crossfire,
317). The
shell had been hidden underneath a lip of roofing tar, and was
greatly
deteriorated from exposure to moisture; it had obviously been there a while.
A fired but intact bullet was found on the top of the Massey Roofing
Co.
building on Elm Street, about eight blocks from the TSBD, by Richard Haythorne
in 1967. No official study was made until the HSCA pronounced it a jacketed,
soft-p oint .30 caliber bullet consistent with Remington-Peters ammunition; it
had not been fired from the 6.5 caliber Mannlicher-Carcano (7 HSCA
357; Carol
Hewett, "Silencers, Sniper Rifles & the CIA"; Craig).
In 1974, Dallas resident Richard Lester swept Dealey Plaza with a
metal
detector, and discovered a fragment -- the base portion of a bullet --
500
yards southwest of the TSBD and 61 paces east of the triple underpass. Later he
turned it over to the FBI, and it was studied by the House Select Committee on
Assassinations in 1978. They found that the fragment was from a 6.5 mm bullet,
but that it had not been fired from the alleged "Oswald" Mannlicher- Carcano: its
rifling pattern was different (Associated Press, January 5, 1978; 7
HSCA 395;
Hewett). A whole, unfired .45 caliber bullet was found in 1976 by Hal Luster by
the concrete retaining wall on the knoll (Dallas Morning News,
December 23, 1978).
In the summer of 1966 , an intact bullet was found lodged in the roof
of a
building at 1615 Stemmons Freeway by William Barbee. The building was about a
quarter mile away from the Texas School Book Depository -- within
rifle range
-- in the direction that Oswald had allegedly fired. The FBI
identified the
bullet as a .30 caliber full metal jacketed military bullet; its
rifling
pattern of four grooves, right hand twist is consistent with
ammunition of US
manufacture. This is the type of bullet the CIA used with their
silenced M-1
.30 caliber carbine rifles; civilians were not allowed to purchase
them until
the middle of 1963, and full metal jacketed bullets are illegal for
use in
hunting (Hewett, citing FBI Doc. #62-109060-5898).
Two spent Remington .222 bullet casings were found in Dealey Plaza by
John
Rademacher, about eighty feet apart, one on each end of the concrete pergola
that stands midway between the Texas School Book Depository and the
triple
underpass. One was just to the east, while the other was just west of
it,
between the pergola and the wooden stockade fence on the grassy knoll.
One of
the casings has strange indentations which appear to be teeth marks on
it.
Carol Hewett also notes, "The HSCA makes passing reference to the
'Walder'
bullet that was also submitted for testing; the author could find no
other
mention of this particular item of evidence" (citing 7 HSCA 157).
Hewett also
references "the report from a top FBI administrator, Alan Belmont, to Clyde
Tolson, Hoover's second in command, in which Belmont on the night of November
22nd advises that a bullet has been found lodged behind the
President's ear"
(citing FBI Doc. #62-109060-1431), consistent with the Sibert-O'Neill evidence
envelope that was supposed to contain a "missile," not a fragment or fragments.
Is there any evidence that there were once more bullets or fragments
than are
now in th e record?
In Arlen Specter's published questioning of the autopsy pathologists,
he makes
repeated references to a file originally designated CD 371, then
renamed as it
was entered into evidence. Specter introduces Commission Exhibit 397, stating
it is the identical file previously marked CD 371 "for our internal purposes"
(2 H 323). Researcher Harold Weisberg was the first person to notice
that CE
397 seemed to be missing several items, so he went to the National Archives to
inspect the CD 371. He found some interesting differences between the 'identical' files (Weisberg, Post Mortem, 251). One notable document
is a list
of eleven items written by Secret Service officer Robert I . Bouck,
head of the
Protective Research Section, on Treasury Department letterhead, dated November
26, 1963. It acknowledges receipt of eleven items from Admiral George
G.
Burkley, who had been John F. Kennedy's personal physician, and who
took
posses sion (not necessarily in a legal manner) of a number of the
autopsy
records. The seventh item on the list reads, "One receipt from FBI for
a
missile recovered during the examination of the body."
A missile is a bullet. It is not a bullet fragment; a fragment is a
piece of a
ruptured missile. Numerous minute fragments were recovered from the President's
body during the autopsy. Not a single receipt for a fragment or
fragments is
listed on this document; they were transferred separately. This is a receipt for
an intact bullet recovered from John F. Kennedy's body; it appeared in print for
the first time in Weisberg's 1975 book, Post Mortem, 527.
Researcher Anna-Marie Kuhns-Walko turned up some interesting items at
the
National Archives in 1996: photographs (several) labeled as being of a bullet
"removed from President Kennedy's body." It is not one of the tiny fragments
that have been part of the record for thirty-five years. No other information
is available: no photographer listed; no indication of when it was recovered;
or what part of the body it came from; or if it was recovered at
Parkland,
Bethesda, or elsewhere. Just several photos of a bullet "removed from President
Kennedy's body" that no one's ever seen before.
Anna-Marie also discovered an empty envelope, originally marked,
"Shell 7.5
found in Dealey Plaza 11/22/63. This would be an expended cartridge
found
somewhere in Dealey Plaza, presumably not far from where it was fired;
and
regardless of where in Dealey Plaza it was found (which the envelope doesn't
state), it's a 7.5 caliber, not a 6.5 caliber like the Mannlicher- Carcano. No
one outside a very select circle, apparently, ever heard of this item before.
Why is the envelope empty? Written right after the previously quoted description: "DETERMINED OF NO VALUE AND DESTROYED."
********************************************************
*************
The above post was snipped to the relevant paragraphs dealing with evidence for
more than 3 bullets. I invite everyone to Google and read the original
if
interested. There's more material in the original - and I snipped out
some good
stuff that simply wasn't relevant to this post.
Clearly *some* of the snippets above could easily be referring to the *same*
bullet - simply at different perspective by different eyewitnesses.
And some of
the snippets above could easily have had *no* relevance to 11/22/63.
But the WC
ignored and ran from such evidence with a determination that can only
lead
thoughtful people to the conclusion that they had already made up
their minds.
The point I might make here is... where did the WC deal with all ofhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZoJbOFqc6Iw
this
evidence? Can anyone point to *ANY* attempt by the WC to explain away
this
massive amount of evidence for more than three bullets? Examine the evidence at
all? Ask the FBI for clarification?
_________________
Justice is like the hawk. Sometimes it must go hooded.[/quote]
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