• Provable Lies Of The Warren Commission - #11 - Just For Coward Corbutt

    From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 5 07:42:22 2023
    "When present at Pena's bar, Oswald was supposed to have been
    intoxicated to the extent that he became ill, which is inconsistent
    with other evidence that Oswald did not drink alcoholic beverages to
    excess." (WCR 325)

    But what did the Warren Commission's underlying evidence state?

    Mr. RODRIGUEZ. These men came into the bar, two men came into the bar,
    one of them which I learned later through TV and pictures and
    newspapers was Oswald. These men came into the bar. One of them spoke
    Spanish and the one who spoke Spanish ordered the tequila, so I told
    him that the price of the tequila was 50 cents. I brought him the
    tequila and a little water. The man protested at the price, thought it
    was too high, and he made some statement to the effect that he was a
    Cuban, but an American citizen and that surely--words to the effect
    that surely the owner of this bar must be a capitalist, and we had a
    little debate about the price, but that passed over. Then the man who
    I later learned was Oswald ordered a lemonade. Now I didn't know what
    to give him because we don't have lemonades in the bar. So I asked
    Orest Pena how I should fix a lemonade. Orest told me to take a little
    of this lemon flavoring, squirt in some water, and charge him 25 cents
    for the lemonade, and that's the incident surrounding that situation.
    (11H 341)

    Mr. PENA. I don't know exactly. I was away from there. I didn't pay
    any attention. They got mad about the 25 cents for the lemonade and 50
    cents for the tequila, so they asked my bartender, Evaristo, why I
    charge so much for the drinks and I was a capitalist charging too much
    for the drinks. He went and came to me and told me about it. I said,
    "Don't worry about it. They pay you already?" "Yes." "Don't worry
    about it." If you are going to worry about all the customers, you are
    going to go crazy. Then I don't know whether he left or something, but
    he vomited after that; Oswald did. I don't know anything but they
    walked away; that's all. When the assassination happened, they put the
    pictures over on the television, so I saw Oswald and said, "That's the
    man who came to my place one time, the man who ordered the lemonade."
    Evaristo came and said, "Look! That's the man that assassinated Mr.
    Kennedy is the one that was here one time." (11H 351)

    The Warren Commission also cited CE 2477 pg 10 - which interestingly
    enough, contradicts the testimony of these two eyewitnesses.
    Interestingly, Pena notes that he was badgered by the FBI about the "lemonade"... seems that the FBI didn't like what they heard. (FBI
    Intimidation - Toddy?) So they ended up reporting something different
    anyway...

    The bottom line: Oswald ordered a lemonade - which would hardly make
    him drunk - and is *ENTIRELY* consistent with what we know of Oswald's
    drinking habits. Once again, the WCR simply lied about their own
    evidence.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to Admin@ConspiracyJFKForum.com on Tue Sep 5 13:05:57 2023
    On Tue, 05 Sep 2023 07:42:22 -0700, Ben Holmes
    <Admin@ConspiracyJFKForum.com> wrote:

    "When present at Pena's bar, Oswald was supposed to have been
    intoxicated to the extent that he became ill, which is inconsistent
    with other evidence that Oswald did not drink alcoholic beverages to
    excess." (WCR 325)

    But what did the Warren Commission's underlying evidence state?

    Mr. RODRIGUEZ. These men came into the bar, two men came into the bar,
    one of them which I learned later through TV and pictures and
    newspapers was Oswald. These men came into the bar. One of them spoke
    Spanish and the one who spoke Spanish ordered the tequila, so I told
    him that the price of the tequila was 50 cents. I brought him the
    tequila and a little water. The man protested at the price, thought it
    was too high, and he made some statement to the effect that he was a
    Cuban, but an American citizen and that surely--words to the effect
    that surely the owner of this bar must be a capitalist, and we had a
    little debate about the price, but that passed over. Then the man who
    I later learned was Oswald ordered a lemonade. Now I didn't know what
    to give him because we don't have lemonades in the bar. So I asked
    Orest Pena how I should fix a lemonade. Orest told me to take a little
    of this lemon flavoring, squirt in some water, and charge him 25 cents
    for the lemonade, and that's the incident surrounding that situation.
    (11H 341)

    Mr. PENA. I don't know exactly. I was away from there. I didn't pay
    any attention. They got mad about the 25 cents for the lemonade and 50
    cents for the tequila, so they asked my bartender, Evaristo, why I
    charge so much for the drinks and I was a capitalist charging too much
    for the drinks. He went and came to me and told me about it. I said,
    "Don't worry about it. They pay you already?" "Yes." "Don't worry
    about it." If you are going to worry about all the customers, you are
    going to go crazy. Then I don't know whether he left or something, but
    he vomited after that; Oswald did. I don't know anything but they
    walked away; that's all. When the assassination happened, they put the >pictures over on the television, so I saw Oswald and said, "That's the
    man who came to my place one time, the man who ordered the lemonade." >Evaristo came and said, "Look! That's the man that assassinated Mr.
    Kennedy is the one that was here one time." (11H 351)

    The Warren Commission also cited CE 2477 pg 10 - which interestingly
    enough, contradicts the testimony of these two eyewitnesses.
    Interestingly, Pena notes that he was badgered by the FBI about the >"lemonade"... seems that the FBI didn't like what they heard. (FBI >Intimidation - Toddy?) So they ended up reporting something different >anyway...

    The bottom line: Oswald ordered a lemonade - which would hardly make
    him drunk - and is *ENTIRELY* consistent with what we know of Oswald's >drinking habits. Once again, the WCR simply lied about their own
    evidence.


    Lest we forget - Coward Huckster Sienzant is also running right behind Corbutt...

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