SOMEONE NAMED TARA SAID (IN 2009):
I have read many different reviews on Mr. Bugliosi's book, Reclaiming History. Most are very positive. My question then is: what will I get out of the book should I decide to invest the time reading it?
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:published.
Hi Tara,
If you decide to read "Reclaiming History" (and every person with a deep interest in the JFK case should definitely read it, in my opinion), you will be exposed to THE most comprehensive book about President Kennedy's assassination that has ever been
Virtually every JFK conspiracy theory is placed into the trash heap of history by Mr. Bugliosi (which is, of course, where all of those theories have belonged in the first place). And Vince provides ample citations (and common sense) to back up what hesays--every step of the way.
You'll also be treated to some first-rate humor, as Bugliosi skewers and lampoons everybody from David Lifton to John Armstrong to Oliver Stone to Jim Garrison to a crazy Government photographer named Joe O'Donnell. (I recently started a forum threadabout O'Donnell's lies and fairy tales; CLICK HERE for that.)
Naturally, almost all conspiracy theorists strongly disagree with the things I've said above about Mr. Bugliosi's magnificent book known as "Reclaiming History". But, to borrow part of a quote from one of my favorite fellow LNers, "Bud" (I think I gotmost of this from Bud anyway) --- The irrational and speculative ramblings of a bunch of conspiracy kooks couldn't possibly matter less in the long run.
Bud also offered up the following very good evaluation of the "kooks" who populate forums like alt.conspiracy.jfk:poorly worded, etc. We can't.
[quote on...]
"The [JFK conspiracy] kooks have all the advantages. They can attack our [lone assassin] position, because we have one. They don't. They can put shooters anywhere. We can't. They can exploit any discrepancies, errors, omissions, ambiguities, anything
In a human endeavor like this case, a large amount of these things are bound to exist. They exist in anything humans do. Only in this case, a great effort has been made to exploit this inevitability. Wherever there is desire, this can be done. Whateverhumans produce can be criticized (see the 9-11 conspiracy kooks for confirmation).
They raise issues with the [Zapruder] film. When an effort is made to address these issues, they both criticize the effort, and raise further issues. They raise issues with the trajectories. When efforts are made that tackle these issues, they merelycriticize the effort.
[...]problem, not at its many manifestations.
You [DVP] and Jean Davison do a better job than most in fighting kooks on the terms they choose. My take is that the problems of the case don't lie with the case itself, but with the kooks. That is where the focus needs to be, at the source of the
[...]types and the belief in stupid things.
More study needs to be done on the phenomenon of kookiness. That is the root. It can be seen all over the internet, and you can find some study on it, but they really just nibble around the edges. A real in-depth study needs to be done on personality
[...]
The question is, why are CT [conspiracy theorists] so devoid of common sense, and unable to think reasonably?" -- Bud; June 11, 2006
[end quote.]
Back to "Reclaiming History" ---
I think you will enjoy Vince Bugliosi's book immensely, Tara, if you choose to
read it.
Or, instead of reading the whole 2,800-page book (including the endnotes on the CD-ROM disc), you could just save your money and read my review of the book (linked below). My review is only 2,500 pages long. ~wink~
http://ReclaimingHistory.blogspot.com
David Von Pein
June 2, 2009
"Isn't it rather remarkable that the person sitting in front of JFK also had a bullet wound in his upper back? Plus the added facts of JFK having a bullet hole in his throat and JFK having no bullets in his body. Conspiracy theorists who hate theSingle-Bullet Theory never seem bothered in the least by those last observations I just mentioned. They'll simply add yet another bullet to the mix to account for John Connally's back wound. The SBT will never be defeated by conspiracists. And that's
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"If only the conspiracy-happy fantasists could learn how to **add things up**. Just think of the heavy burden that could be lifted off of them if just once they could perform such a basic skill of addition when it comes to assessing the sum total ofevidence in the JFK and Tippit murder cases. But, I guess it's just too much to ask. It's evidently a terminal anti-math disease that cripples all conspiracy fantasists." -- DVP; May 1, 2023
In a human endeavor like this case, a large amount of these things are bound to exist. They exist in anything humans do. Only in this case, a great effort has been made to exploit this inevitability. Wherever there is desire, this can be done. Whateverhumans produce can be criticized (see the 9-11 conspiracy kooks for confirmation).
The investigation into JFK's assassination had many moving parts and it should come as no
surprise that there would be errors, contradictions, and inconsistencies. None of these are
evidence of a conspiracy. They are evidence of humans being human.
Silliness is a choice that some make because they refuse to accept reality for reasons known only to themselves.
On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 6:22:02 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
The investigation into JFK's assassination had many moving parts and it should come as noWas the conduct of the police lineups a result of "human error" ? https://gil-jesus.com/the-police-lineups/
surprise that there would be errors, contradictions, and inconsistencies. None of these are
evidence of a conspiracy. They are evidence of humans being human.
Was the deliberate moving of the President's back wound a result of "human error" ?
https://gil-jesus.com/the-back-wound/
Was the harrassment and threatening of witnesses a result of "human error" ?
https://gil-jesus.com/evidence-of-witness-harrassment/
The case for Oswald's innocence begins and ends with the conduct of the authorities.
How they handled Oswald.
How they handled the evidence.
How they handled the witnesses.
The credibility of a criminal case rests solely on the credibility and professionalism of the officers who put the case together.
In the criminal justice system, there is NO ROOM FOR ERROR, because the least little error can be enough to cast doubt in the minds of reasonable and prudent people.
And this is something you Lone Nutters don't seem to grasp.
There certainly WAS enough evidence in this case to cast doubt on Oswald's guilt.
And anyone who doesn't believe that is just full of shit.
( Are you feeling me, girl ? / "Edward Jackson" )
Silliness is a choice that some make because they refuse to accept reality for reasons known only to themselves.There is no group sillier than the Lone Nutters, who are large on comments and insults, but way too short on providing evidence.
And who refuse to "accept reality" that there is evidence indicating that the case was fraudulent.
And they "refuse to accept reality for reasons known only to themselves".
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. ( Matt. 7:1-2 )
You people judge every day and you're so full of shit, even with all the press behind you, even with history in your favor, you STILL haven't been able to win this debate in over the last 20 years in this newsgroup.
You're a pathetic group of liars and online bullies who waste your lives insulting people you don't know and in the end you will prove to the world how your lives were meaningless.
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 7:00:40 PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:Whatever humans produce can be criticized (see the 9-11 conspiracy kooks for confirmation).
In a human endeavor like this case, a large amount of these things are bound to exist. They exist in anything humans do. Only in this case, a great effort has been made to exploit this inevitability. Wherever there is desire, this can be done.
I wanted to focus on this aspect of David's post in which he cites Bud's comment. Like most
Americans, I have nothing but admiration for the triumphs of NASA's manned space flight
program, but there have been errors along the way and those errors have led to tragedies. The
fire during the Apollo 1 ground test that claimed three astronauts and the disasters of the
Challenger and Columbia shuttles which each resulted in the deaths of seven astronauts. The
first was the result of faulty design which made it impossible for the astronauts to escape their
burning space capsule. Schedule pressures resulted in safety being compromised resulting in
the Challenger's destruction during launch. The Columbia was doomed from the start of the
mission when heat shield tiles were knock off one of the wings by a piece of insulating foam.
NASA knew that was a possibility but never informed the crew because there was nothing they
could have done about it. Their fate was sealed. Contingency plans were later added to allow
shuttle astronauts to take refuge in the International Space Station until a rescue mission could
be launched.
The point of all this is to show that human error is an inevitable part of our existence and in
any human endeavor, errors are bound to be made. The larger and more complex the endeavor,
the greater opportunity for error. Under stressful circumstances, errors become even more likely.
The investigation into JFK's assassination had many moving parts and it should come as no
surprise that there would be errors, contradictions, and inconsistencies. None of these are
evidence of a conspiracy. They are evidence of humans being human. Fortunately, we have the
ability to reason (most of us anyway). We can work through these errors and still figure out
what happened. In the case of the JFK assassination, it is pretty obvious that Oswald smuggled
his cheap Italian war surplus rifle into work, found a secluded spot on the 6th floor and waited
for JFK to arrive. He fired three shots at JFK after the limo turned onto Elm St, striking him twice,
the third of these shots being the fatal head shot. Oswald then fled from this workplace,
returned to his rooming house to fetch his revolver with which he murdered a cop who stopped
to question him. He was later found in a movie theater where he pulled a his gun on the
arresting officers before being subdued. These are the only viable conclusions that can be
drawn from the available evidence. Those who dispute that have to invent ridiculous excuses for
dismissing the evidence which invariably leaves them with no evidence at all. This is what they
want because it gives them a blank canvass on which to do their fingerpainting.
Human error is inevitable but silliness is not. Silliness is a choice that some make because they
refuse to accept reality for reasons known only to themselves.
On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 8:24:55 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
< a lot of irrelevant bullshit that was deleted >
Oh Boy, more commentary from the cementhead poster boy.
But he posts:
No citations
No documents
No testimony
No exhibits
No witness videos
"Bud" does no research of his own, preferring to take the lazy way out and fall back on the conclusions of other people and the Warren Commission Report.
What "Bud" DOES post are comments, speculation, opinion and insults.
You can gain NO KNOWLEDGE from his posts.
That's why we call "Bud", "Chickenshit".
BUD'S LIES: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bud claims the "gunsack" was 41 inches. https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/33a9MbNPYEg ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 6:43:59 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
"You don`t leave fingerprints on every surface you touch."
Notice "Bud" didn't cite a source ?
There's a reason for that. It's a lie. He didn't cite a source, but I will.
https://www.scienceworld.ca/resource/finding-fingerprints/#:~:text=In%20this%20activity%2C%20students%20learn,patterns%2C%20on%20everything%20we%20touch
Let`s not forget this one, a probe to Mars lost because they didn`t convert measurements from Imperial to Metric.
On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 6:22:02 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
The investigation into JFK's assassination had many moving parts and it should come as no
surprise that there would be errors, contradictions, and inconsistencies. None of these are
evidence of a conspiracy. They are evidence of humans being human.
Was the conduct of the police lineups a result of "human error" ? https://gil-jesus.com/the-police-lineups/
Was the deliberate moving of the President's back wound a result of "human error" ?
https://gil-jesus.com/the-back-wound/
Was the harrassment and threatening of witnesses a result of "human error" ? https://gil-jesus.com/evidence-of-witness-harrassment/
The case for Oswald's innocence begins and ends with the conduct of the authorities.
How they handled Oswald.
How they handled the evidence.
How they handled the witnesses.
The credibility of a criminal case rests solely on the credibility and professionalism of the officers who put the case together.
In the criminal justice system, there is NO ROOM FOR ERROR, because the least little error can be enough to cast doubt in the minds of reasonable and prudent people.
And this is something you Lone Nutters don't seem to grasp.
There certainly WAS enough evidence in this case to cast doubt on Oswald's guilt.
And anyone who doesn't believe that is just full of shit.
( Are you feeling me, girl ? / "Edward Jackson" )
Silliness is a choice that some make because they refuse to accept reality for reasons known only to themselves.
There is no group sillier than the Lone Nutters,
who are large on comments and insults, but way too short on providing evidence.
And who refuse to "accept reality" that there is evidence indicating that the case was fraudulent.
And they "refuse to accept reality for reasons known only to themselves".
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. ( Matt. 7:1-2 )
You people judge every day and you're so full of shit, even with all the press behind you, even with history in your favor, you STILL haven't been able to win this debate in over the last 20 years in this newsgroup.
You're a pathetic group of liars and online bullies who waste your lives insulting people you don't know and in the end you will prove to the world how your lives were meaningless.
On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 10:47:24 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 8:24:55 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
Let`s not forget this one, a probe to Mars lost because they didn`t convert measurements from Imperial to Metric.
There was a Canadian airliner that ran out of fuel in flight because the person loading the fuelJohn George Corbett knows more about Canadian airliners than he knows about the JFK assassination, and he knows nothing about Canadian airliners.
made a similar mistake.
On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 8:24:55 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
Let`s not forget this one, a probe to Mars lost because they didn`t convert measurements from Imperial to Metric.
There was a Canadian airliner that ran out of fuel in flight because the person loading the fuel
made a similar mistake.
On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 10:47:24 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 8:24:55 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
Let`s not forget this one, a probe to Mars lost because they didn`t convert measurements from Imperial to Metric.
There was a Canadian airliner that ran out of fuel in flight because the person loading the fuelJohn George Corbett knows more about Canadian airliners than he knows about the JFK assassination, and he knows nothing about Canadian airliners.
made a similar mistake.
On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 8:24:55 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
Let`s not forget this one, a probe to Mars lost because they didn`t convert measurements from Imperial to Metric.
There was a Canadian airliner that ran out of fuel in flight because the person loading the fuel
made a similar mistake.
I'm not familiar with that particular case, but I do sometimes binge on the air disasters here...
https://www.youtube.com/@theflightchannel
SOMEONE NAMED TARA SAID (IN 2009):
I have read many different reviews on Mr. Bugliosi's book, Reclaiming History. Most are very positive. My question then is: what will I get out of the book should I decide to invest the time reading it?
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:published.
Hi Tara,
If you decide to read "Reclaiming History" (and every person with a deep interest in the JFK case should definitely read it, in my opinion), you will be exposed to THE most comprehensive book about President Kennedy's assassination that has ever been
Virtually every JFK conspiracy theory is placed into the trash heap of history by Mr. Bugliosi (which is, of course, where all of those theories have belonged in the first place). And Vince provides ample citations (and common sense) to back up what hesays--every step of the way.
You'll also be treated to some first-rate humor, as Bugliosi skewers and lampoons everybody from David Lifton to John Armstrong to Oliver Stone to Jim Garrison to a crazy Government photographer named Joe O'Donnell. (I recently started a forum threadabout O'Donnell's lies and fairy tales; CLICK HERE for that.)
Naturally, almost all conspiracy theorists strongly disagree with the things I've said above about Mr. Bugliosi's magnificent book known as "Reclaiming History". But, to borrow part of a quote from one of my favorite fellow LNers, "Bud" (I think I gotmost of this from Bud anyway) --- The irrational and speculative ramblings of a bunch of conspiracy kooks couldn't possibly matter less in the long run.
Bud also offered up the following very good evaluation of the "kooks" who populate forums like alt.conspiracy.jfk:poorly worded, etc. We can't.
[quote on...]
"The [JFK conspiracy] kooks have all the advantages. They can attack our [lone assassin] position, because we have one. They don't. They can put shooters anywhere. We can't. They can exploit any discrepancies, errors, omissions, ambiguities, anything
In a human endeavor like this case, a large amount of these things are bound to exist. They exist in anything humans do. Only in this case, a great effort has been made to exploit this inevitability. Wherever there is desire, this can be done. Whateverhumans produce can be criticized (see the 9-11 conspiracy kooks for confirmation).
They raise issues with the [Zapruder] film. When an effort is made to address these issues, they both criticize the effort, and raise further issues. They raise issues with the trajectories. When efforts are made that tackle these issues, they merelycriticize the effort.
[...]problem, not at its many manifestations.
You [DVP] and Jean Davison do a better job than most in fighting kooks on the terms they choose. My take is that the problems of the case don't lie with the case itself, but with the kooks. That is where the focus needs to be, at the source of the
[...]types and the belief in stupid things.
More study needs to be done on the phenomenon of kookiness. That is the root. It can be seen all over the internet, and you can find some study on it, but they really just nibble around the edges. A real in-depth study needs to be done on personality
[...]
The question is, why are CT [conspiracy theorists] so devoid of common sense, and unable to think reasonably?" -- Bud; June 11, 2006
[end quote.]
Back to "Reclaiming History" ---
I think you will enjoy Vince Bugliosi's book immensely, Tara, if you choose to
read it.
Or, instead of reading the whole 2,800-page book (including the endnotes on the CD-ROM disc), you could just save your money and read my review of the book (linked below). My review is only 2,500 pages long. ~wink~
http://ReclaimingHistory.blogspot.com
David Von Pein
June 2, 2009
On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 12:15:51 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
I'm not familiar with that particular case, but I do sometimes binge on the air disasters here...I, too, have a fascination with airliner crashes (and with airplanes and airports in general), as my two webpages below will attest:
https://www.youtube.com/@theflightchannel
http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2012/03/survival-in-sky.html
http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2012/03/boeing-aircraft-promo-films.html
On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 6:22:02 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
The investigation into JFK's assassination had many moving parts and it should come as noWas the conduct of the police lineups a result of "human error" ? https://gil-jesus.com/the-police-lineups/
surprise that there would be errors, contradictions, and inconsistencies. None of these are
evidence of a conspiracy. They are evidence of humans being human.
Was the deliberate moving of the President's back wound a result of "human error" ?
https://gil-jesus.com/the-back-wound/
Was the harrassment and threatening of witnesses a result of "human error" ? https://gil-jesus.com/evidence-of-witness-harrassment/
The case for Oswald's innocence begins and ends with the conduct of the authorities.
How they handled Oswald.
How they handled the evidence.
How they handled the witnesses.
The credibility of a criminal case rests solely on the credibility and professionalism of the officers who put the case together.
In the criminal justice system, there is NO ROOM FOR ERROR, because the least little error can be enough to cast doubt in the minds of reasonable and prudent people.
And this is something you Lone Nutters don't seem to grasp.
There certainly WAS enough evidence in this case to cast doubt on Oswald's guilt.
And anyone who doesn't believe that is just full of shit.
( Are you feeling me, girl ? / "Edward Jackson" )
Silliness is a choice that some make because they refuse to accept reality for reasons known only to themselves.There is no group sillier than the Lone Nutters, who are large on comments and insults, but way too short on providing evidence.
And who refuse to "accept reality" that there is evidence indicating that the case was fraudulent.
And they "refuse to accept reality for reasons known only to themselves".
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. ( Matt. 7:1-2 )
You people judge every day and you're so full of shit, even with all the press behind you, even with history in your favor, you STILL haven't been able to win this debate in over the last 20 years in this newsgroup.
You're a pathetic group of liars and online bullies who waste your lives insulting people you don't know and in the end you will prove to the world how your lives were meaningless.
On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 6:49:29 AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:evidence against him thrown out of court. Dunning, call Kruger. Gil Jesus is playing Johnny Cochrane again.
On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 6:22:02 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
The investigation into JFK's assassination had many moving parts and it should come as noWas the conduct of the police lineups a result of "human error" ? https://gil-jesus.com/the-police-lineups/
surprise that there would be errors, contradictions, and inconsistencies. None of these are
evidence of a conspiracy. They are evidence of humans being human.
Was the deliberate moving of the President's back wound a result of "human error" ?
https://gil-jesus.com/the-back-wound/
Was the harrassment and threatening of witnesses a result of "human error" ?
https://gil-jesus.com/evidence-of-witness-harrassment/
The case for Oswald's innocence begins and ends with the conduct of the authorities.
How they handled Oswald.
How they handled the evidence.
How they handled the witnesses.
The credibility of a criminal case rests solely on the credibility and professionalism of the officers who put the case together.
In the criminal justice system, there is NO ROOM FOR ERROR, because the least little error can be enough to cast doubt in the minds of reasonable and prudent people.
And this is something you Lone Nutters don't seem to grasp.
There certainly WAS enough evidence in this case to cast doubt on Oswald's guilt.
And anyone who doesn't believe that is just full of shit.
( Are you feeling me, girl ? / "Edward Jackson" )
Silliness is a choice that some make because they refuse to accept reality for reasons known only to themselves.There is no group sillier than the Lone Nutters, who are large on comments and insults, but way too short on providing evidence.
And who refuse to "accept reality" that there is evidence indicating that the case was fraudulent.
And they "refuse to accept reality for reasons known only to themselves".
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. ( Matt. 7:1-2 )
You people judge every day and you're so full of shit, even with all the press behind you, even with history in your favor, you STILL haven't been able to win this debate in over the last 20 years in this newsgroup.There is the historical case against Oswald and your assertion that on 11/22/63, some people did something. We'd like to read what you've developed rather than be hectored by your smug claim that if you were Oswald's attorney, you'd have all of the
You're a pathetic group of liars and online bullies who waste your lives insulting people you don't know and in the end you will prove to the world how your lives were meaningless.People like you who accuse thousands of ordinary Americans as being part of a vast conspiracy to murder the POTUS are awfully thin-skinned about being called "kooks" by "bullies" on a Google Groups discussion board. Toughen up, buttercup.
Are you ready to discuss the decades old claim that the Oswald photos you posted represent different Lee Harvey Oswalds, or was it enough for you to spray a few worn out conspiracy rounds from your conspiracy burp gun and flee back to mommy's basement?
I'm guessing the basement wins, but I hold out a sliver of hope you'll be ready to answer some questions.
Moron Chuck wants answers...about a topic he's too fucking lazy to investigate himself
On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 8:58:34 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
Moron Chuck wants answers...about a topic he's too fucking lazy to investigate himselfYou'll find that that's true with all of the Lone Nut Trolls.
They're quick to judge others' theories and research, but too lazy to do their own.
And when they can't refute what you say, they'll claim that your "looking at the wrong things and looking at them incorrectly".
What does that even mean ?
ROFLMAO
They're a pathetic and sorry bunch who haven't been able to end the debate in 60 years.
They're haters of "conspiracy theorists", who get "entertained" by harrassing, insulting and bullying people who don't believe the Warren Commission told the truth.
It's this addiction to hate that brings them in here every day.
They don't care about evidence, hell, they haven't even read the 26 volumes.
They're here for one reason and one reason only: to spew their hatred on those they don't agree with.
They don't want the truth exposed.
"People loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil." ( John 3: 19 )
And nowhere is that evil more apparent than in an unmoderated newsgroup.
If Ben, myself, you, Don and others stopped posting here for a week, they'd go nuts.
All they'd have left is Brian Doyle.
You'd see them responding to posts from 1999, just so they can spread their hate.
And they've been proven to be liars, as well.
This case will still be debated long after they're dead and dancing in hell with the rest of the liars like .johnny.
www.prouty.org/mcadams
This Scripture pretty much sums them up:and the father of lies." ( John 8:44 )
"You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar
The Warren Commission lied. And those who support them are, as well, liars. Their "game" has been exposed. They lost it a long time ago. They have no credibility.
All that's left for them to do is to waste the rest of their lives on line commenting, insulting and bullying.
On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 8:58:34 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
Moron Chuck wants answers...about a topic he's too fucking lazy to investigate himselfYou'll find that that's true with all of the Lone Nut Trolls.
They're quick to judge others' theories and research, but too lazy to do their own.
And when they can't refute what you say, they'll claim that your "looking at the wrong things and looking at them incorrectly".
What does that even mean ?
ROFLMAO
They're a pathetic and sorry bunch who haven't been able to end the debate in 60 years.
They're haters of "conspiracy theorists", who get "entertained" by harrassing, insulting and bullying people who don't believe the Warren Commission told the truth.
It's this addiction to hate that brings them in here every day.
They don't care about evidence, hell, they haven't even read the 26 volumes.
They're here for one reason and one reason only: to spew their hatred on those they don't agree with.
They don't want the truth exposed.
"People loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil." ( John 3: 19 )
And nowhere is that evil more apparent than in an unmoderated newsgroup.
If Ben, myself, you, Don and others stopped posting here for a week, they'd go nuts.
All they'd have left is Brian Doyle.
You'd see them responding to posts from 1999, just so they can spread their hate.
And they've been proven to be liars, as well.
This case will still be debated long after they're dead and dancing in hell with the rest of the liars like .johnny.
www.prouty.org/mcadams
This Scripture pretty much sums them up:and the father of lies." ( John 8:44 )
"You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar
The Warren Commission lied. And those who support them are, as well, liars.
Their "game" has been exposed. They lost it a long time ago. They have no credibility.
All that's left for them to do is to waste the rest of their lives on line commenting, insulting and bullying.
On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 6:18:00 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:liar and the father of lies." ( John 8:44 )
On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 8:58:34 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
Moron Chuck wants answers...about a topic he's too fucking lazy to investigate himselfYou'll find that that's true with all of the Lone Nut Trolls.
They're quick to judge others' theories and research, but too lazy to do their own.
And when they can't refute what you say, they'll claim that your "looking at the wrong things and looking at them incorrectly".
What does that even mean ?
ROFLMAO
They're a pathetic and sorry bunch who haven't been able to end the debate in 60 years.
They're haters of "conspiracy theorists", who get "entertained" by harrassing, insulting and bullying people who don't believe the Warren Commission told the truth.
It's this addiction to hate that brings them in here every day.
They don't care about evidence, hell, they haven't even read the 26 volumes.
They're here for one reason and one reason only: to spew their hatred on those they don't agree with.
They don't want the truth exposed.
"People loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil." ( John 3: 19 )
And nowhere is that evil more apparent than in an unmoderated newsgroup.
If Ben, myself, you, Don and others stopped posting here for a week, they'd go nuts.
All they'd have left is Brian Doyle.
You'd see them responding to posts from 1999, just so they can spread their hate.
And they've been proven to be liars, as well.
This case will still be debated long after they're dead and dancing in hell with the rest of the liars like .johnny.
www.prouty.org/mcadams
This Scripture pretty much sums them up:
"You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a
assassination, of essentially being traitors. So it's fine for you to accuse people of murder but it's Neo Nazism to accuse Oswald of it. You are the Gold Standard in shamelessness.The Warren Commission lied. And those who support them are, as well, liars.Your allies Don and Sky Throne both say they believe Oswald murdered JFK. They just think that he was part of a conspiracy, that he didn't act alone.
Their "game" has been exposed. They lost it a long time ago. They have no credibility.
All that's left for them to do is to waste the rest of their lives on line commenting, insulting and bullying.
You label people who think Oswald killed JFK as Neo Nazis. That they violate the "innocent until proven guilty" rule. At the same time you make this characterization you accuse all sorts of people - important and not important - of being behind the
On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 8:58:34 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:and the father of lies." ( John 8:44 )
Moron Chuck wants answers...about a topic he's too fucking lazy to investigate himselfYou'll find that that's true with all of the Lone Nut Trolls.
They're quick to judge others' theories and research, but too lazy to do their own.
And when they can't refute what you say, they'll claim that your "looking at the wrong things and looking at them incorrectly".
What does that even mean ?
ROFLMAO
They're a pathetic and sorry bunch who haven't been able to end the debate in 60 years.
They're haters of "conspiracy theorists", who get "entertained" by harrassing, insulting and bullying people who don't believe the Warren Commission told the truth.
It's this addiction to hate that brings them in here every day.
They don't care about evidence, hell, they haven't even read the 26 volumes. They're here for one reason and one reason only: to spew their hatred on those they don't agree with.
They don't want the truth exposed.
"People loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil." ( John 3: 19 )
And nowhere is that evil more apparent than in an unmoderated newsgroup.
If Ben, myself, you, Don and others stopped posting here for a week, they'd go nuts.
All they'd have left is Brian Doyle.
You'd see them responding to posts from 1999, just so they can spread their hate.
And they've been proven to be liars, as well.
This case will still be debated long after they're dead and dancing in hell with the rest of the liars like .johnny.
www.prouty.org/mcadams
This Scripture pretty much sums them up:
"You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar
The Warren Commission lied. And those who support them are, as well, liars. Their "game" has been exposed. They lost it a long time ago. They have no credibility.Your allies Don and Sky Throne both say they believe Oswald murdered JFK. They just think that he was part of a conspiracy, that he didn't act alone.
All that's left for them to do is to waste the rest of their lives on line commenting, insulting and bullying.
On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 9:30:56 AM UTC-4, Steven Galbraith wrote:liar and the father of lies." ( John 8:44 )
On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 6:18:00 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 8:58:34 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
Moron Chuck wants answers...about a topic he's too fucking lazy to investigate himselfYou'll find that that's true with all of the Lone Nut Trolls.
They're quick to judge others' theories and research, but too lazy to do their own.
And when they can't refute what you say, they'll claim that your "looking at the wrong things and looking at them incorrectly".
What does that even mean ?
ROFLMAO
They're a pathetic and sorry bunch who haven't been able to end the debate in 60 years.
They're haters of "conspiracy theorists", who get "entertained" by harrassing, insulting and bullying people who don't believe the Warren Commission told the truth.
It's this addiction to hate that brings them in here every day.
They don't care about evidence, hell, they haven't even read the 26 volumes.
They're here for one reason and one reason only: to spew their hatred on those they don't agree with.
They don't want the truth exposed.
"People loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil." ( John 3: 19 )
And nowhere is that evil more apparent than in an unmoderated newsgroup.
If Ben, myself, you, Don and others stopped posting here for a week, they'd go nuts.
All they'd have left is Brian Doyle.
You'd see them responding to posts from 1999, just so they can spread their hate.
And they've been proven to be liars, as well.
This case will still be debated long after they're dead and dancing in hell with the rest of the liars like .johnny.
www.prouty.org/mcadams
This Scripture pretty much sums them up:
"You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a
assassination, of essentially being traitors. So it's fine for you to accuse people of murder but it's Neo Nazism to accuse Oswald of it. You are the Gold Standard in shamelessness.The Warren Commission lied. And those who support them are, as well, liars.Your allies Don and Sky Throne both say they believe Oswald murdered JFK. They just think that he was part of a conspiracy, that he didn't act alone.
Their "game" has been exposed. They lost it a long time ago. They have no credibility.
All that's left for them to do is to waste the rest of their lives on line commenting, insulting and bullying.
You label people who think Oswald killed JFK as Neo Nazis. That they violate the "innocent until proven guilty" rule. At the same time you make this characterization you accuse all sorts of people - important and not important - of being behind the
Let me amend that: they both believe that Oswald was *one of the murderers of JFK* not that *he* murdered JFK.
On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 10:06:22 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:is a liar and the father of lies." ( John 8:44 )
On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 9:37:57 AM UTC-4, Steven Galbraith wrote:
On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 9:30:56 AM UTC-4, Steven Galbraith wrote:
On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 6:18:00 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 8:58:34 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
Moron Chuck wants answers...about a topic he's too fucking lazy to investigate himselfYou'll find that that's true with all of the Lone Nut Trolls. They're quick to judge others' theories and research, but too lazy to do their own.
And when they can't refute what you say, they'll claim that your "looking at the wrong things and looking at them incorrectly".
What does that even mean ?
ROFLMAO
They're a pathetic and sorry bunch who haven't been able to end the debate in 60 years.
They're haters of "conspiracy theorists", who get "entertained" by harrassing, insulting and bullying people who don't believe the Warren Commission told the truth.
It's this addiction to hate that brings them in here every day.
They don't care about evidence, hell, they haven't even read the 26 volumes.
They're here for one reason and one reason only: to spew their hatred on those they don't agree with.
They don't want the truth exposed.
"People loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil." ( John 3: 19 )
And nowhere is that evil more apparent than in an unmoderated newsgroup.
If Ben, myself, you, Don and others stopped posting here for a week, they'd go nuts.
All they'd have left is Brian Doyle.
You'd see them responding to posts from 1999, just so they can spread their hate.
And they've been proven to be liars, as well.
This case will still be debated long after they're dead and dancing in hell with the rest of the liars like .johnny.
www.prouty.org/mcadams
This Scripture pretty much sums them up:
"You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he
the assassination, of essentially being traitors. So it's fine for you to accuse people of murder but it's Neo Nazism to accuse Oswald of it. You are the Gold Standard in shamelessness.The Warren Commission lied. And those who support them are, as well, liars.Your allies Don and Sky Throne both say they believe Oswald murdered JFK. They just think that he was part of a conspiracy, that he didn't act alone.
Their "game" has been exposed. They lost it a long time ago. They have no credibility.
All that's left for them to do is to waste the rest of their lives on line commenting, insulting and bullying.
You label people who think Oswald killed JFK as Neo Nazis. That they violate the "innocent until proven guilty" rule. At the same time you make this characterization you accuse all sorts of people - important and not important - of being behind
Not difficult at all. The DPD had it figured out in the first 12 hours. Actually they suspected theyLet me amend that: they both believe that Oswald was *one of the murderers of JFK* not that *he* murdered JFK.It's difficult to say exactly who murdered JFK.
had the right guy in less than 2 but they had to dot the I's and cross the T's before they could
formally charge Oswald.
The throat shot from the overpass was not a fatal wound.That's because there was no throat shot from the overpass. If you believe there was you have
the problem of explaining where the bullet went.
On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 9:37:57 AM UTC-4, Steven Galbraith wrote:a liar and the father of lies." ( John 8:44 )
On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 9:30:56 AM UTC-4, Steven Galbraith wrote:
On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 6:18:00 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 8:58:34 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
Moron Chuck wants answers...about a topic he's too fucking lazy to investigate himselfYou'll find that that's true with all of the Lone Nut Trolls.
They're quick to judge others' theories and research, but too lazy to do their own.
And when they can't refute what you say, they'll claim that your "looking at the wrong things and looking at them incorrectly".
What does that even mean ?
ROFLMAO
They're a pathetic and sorry bunch who haven't been able to end the debate in 60 years.
They're haters of "conspiracy theorists", who get "entertained" by harrassing, insulting and bullying people who don't believe the Warren Commission told the truth.
It's this addiction to hate that brings them in here every day.
They don't care about evidence, hell, they haven't even read the 26 volumes.
They're here for one reason and one reason only: to spew their hatred on those they don't agree with.
They don't want the truth exposed.
"People loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil." ( John 3: 19 )
And nowhere is that evil more apparent than in an unmoderated newsgroup.
If Ben, myself, you, Don and others stopped posting here for a week, they'd go nuts.
All they'd have left is Brian Doyle.
You'd see them responding to posts from 1999, just so they can spread their hate.
And they've been proven to be liars, as well.
This case will still be debated long after they're dead and dancing in hell with the rest of the liars like .johnny.
www.prouty.org/mcadams
This Scripture pretty much sums them up:
"You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is
assassination, of essentially being traitors. So it's fine for you to accuse people of murder but it's Neo Nazism to accuse Oswald of it. You are the Gold Standard in shamelessness.The Warren Commission lied. And those who support them are, as well, liars.Your allies Don and Sky Throne both say they believe Oswald murdered JFK. They just think that he was part of a conspiracy, that he didn't act alone.
Their "game" has been exposed. They lost it a long time ago. They have no credibility.
All that's left for them to do is to waste the rest of their lives on line commenting, insulting and bullying.
You label people who think Oswald killed JFK as Neo Nazis. That they violate the "innocent until proven guilty" rule. At the same time you make this characterization you accuse all sorts of people - important and not important - of being behind the
Let me amend that: they both believe that Oswald was *one of the murderers of JFK* not that *he* murdered JFK.It's difficult to say exactly who murdered JFK.
The throat shot from the overpass was not a fatal wound.
Connally then shot him with poison. Greer shot at frame 304 of the Zapruder film, but that was not a head shot; presumably it did hit JFK somewhere. Then Jackie did something that probably was not a shot, but which did push JFK up in his seat. Then theguy behind the fence, perhaps Oswald, fired what should have been a fatal head shot, if he was not already dead. Then Greer did the same.
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 7:00:40 PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
You're full of shit Mr Von Pein...just the opposite with his brain chapter and consciously avoided strong evidence of criminal deception with the brain evidence...
Any intelligent juxtaposition of Bugliosi's account of Kennedy's brain in his book vs the real evidence will see a deliberate pattern of evasion by Bugliosi...Bugliosi lied when he said he would cover all the CT-ers criticisms and answer them...He did
Photographer Knudsen saw an intact brain on a steel pan next to Kennedy's body in an autopsy photo shown to him by another autopsy photographer...The photo possessing that intact brain was taken before the brain autopsy so it had no reason to be there...That photo then disappeared from the evidence...That was obviously the impossible 1500 gram brain that they were readying to swap in for Kennedy's brain...
The fascist murderers and their corrupted take-over of the government is what has all the advantages here...
O, yes. DVP is full of shit, has been for decades.
On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 10:04:30 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
O, yes. DVP is full of shit, has been for decades.The nutcase who thinks Governor John B. Connally shot President Kennedy with some kind of poison on 11/22/63 is of the opinion that I, DVP, am the one who is "full of shit".
The richness of such irony is immeasurable.
On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 3:24:38 PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 10:04:30 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
O, yes. DVP is full of shit, has been for decades.The nutcase who thinks Governor John B. Connally shot President Kennedy with some kind of poison on 11/22/63 is of the opinion that I, DVP, am the one who is "full of shit".
The richness of such irony is immeasurable.Yes. You are full of shit! I'm glad we both can enjoy my saying so!
On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 3:28:31 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 3:24:38 PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 10:04:30 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
O, yes. DVP is full of shit, has been for decades.The nutcase who thinks Governor John B. Connally shot President Kennedy with some kind of poison on 11/22/63 is of the opinion that I, DVP, am the one who is "full of shit".
If ** I'm ** full of fecal matter, what are YOU full of, Mr. Throne? (Is the thought even bearable to contemplate?)The richness of such irony is immeasurable.Yes. You are full of shit! I'm glad we both can enjoy my saying so!
On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 3:32:55 PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 3:28:31 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
"Isn't it rather remarkable that the person sitting in front of JFK also had a bullet wound in his upper back? Plus the added facts of JFK having a bullet hole in his throat and JFK having no bullets in his body. Conspiracy theorists who hate theSingle-Bullet Theory never seem bothered in the least by those last observations I just mentioned. They'll simply add yet another bullet to the mix to account for John Connally's back wound.
The SBT will never be defeated by conspiracists. And that's because the SBT will always make more sense than any anti-SBT theory. The truth usually does make the most sense, of course." -- DVP; December 2013
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On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 7:53:39 PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:Single-Bullet Theory never seem bothered in the least by those last observations I just mentioned. They'll simply add yet another bullet to the mix to account for John Connally's back wound.
"Isn't it rather remarkable that the person sitting in front of JFK also had a bullet wound in his upper back? Plus the added facts of JFK having a bullet hole in his throat and JFK having no bullets in his body. Conspiracy theorists who hate the
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 7:53:39 PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:Single-Bullet Theory never seem bothered in the least by those last observations I just mentioned. They'll simply add yet another bullet to the mix to account for John Connally's back wound.
"Isn't it rather remarkable that the person sitting in front of JFK also had a bullet wound in his upper back? Plus the added facts of JFK having a bullet hole in his throat and JFK having no bullets in his body. Conspiracy theorists who hate the
No, for those that believe in Body Alteration — the pre-autopsy modification of JFK’s body to make it appear when the shots came from the rear (when in Lifton’s theory all the shooters were in front of the President) — the only right answer isConnally’s wounds were altered as well. If all the shooters were in front of the President (and hence, in front of Connally as well), it stands to reason that Connally’s wounds were altered, because there weren't any shooters behind Connally.
The SBT will never be defeated by conspiracists. And that's because the SBT will always make more sense than any anti-SBT theory. The truth usually does make the most sense, of course." -- DVP; December 2013
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If only the conspiracy-happy fantasists could learn how to **add
things up**.
I wanted to focus on this aspect of David's post in which he cites Bud's comment. Like most
Americans, I have nothing but admiration for the triumphs of NASA's manned space flight
program, but there have been errors along the way and those errors have led to tragedies. The
fire during the Apollo 1 ground test that claimed three astronauts and the disasters of the
Challenger and Columbia shuttles which each resulted in the deaths of seven astronauts. The
first was the result of faulty design which made it impossible for the astronauts to escape their
burning space capsule. Schedule pressures resulted in safety being compromised resulting in
the Challenger's destruction during launch. The Columbia was doomed from the start of the
mission when heat shield tiles were knock off one of the wings by a piece of insulating foam.
NASA knew that was a possibility but never informed the crew because there was nothing they
could have done about it. Their fate was sealed. Contingency plans were later added to allow
shuttle astronauts to take refuge in the International Space Station until a rescue mission could
be launched.
The point of all this is to show that human error is an inevitable part of our existence and in
any human endeavor, errors are bound to be made. The larger and more complex the endeavor,
the greater opportunity for error. Under stressful circumstances, errors become even more likely.
The investigation into JFK's assassination had many moving parts and it should come as no
surprise that there would be errors, contradictions, and inconsistencies. None of these are
evidence of a conspiracy. They are evidence of humans being human. Fortunately, we have the
ability to reason (most of us anyway). We can work through these errors and still figure out
what happened. In the case of the JFK assassination, it is pretty obvious that Oswald smuggled
his cheap Italian war surplus rifle into work, found a secluded spot on the 6th floor and waited
for JFK to arrive. He fired three shots at JFK after the limo turned onto Elm St, striking him twice,
the third of these shots being the fatal head shot. Oswald then fled from this workplace,
returned to his rooming house to fetch his revolver with which he murdered a cop who stopped
to question him. He was later found in a movie theater where he pulled a his gun on the
arresting officers before being subdued. These are the only viable conclusions that can be
drawn from the available evidence. Those who dispute that have to invent ridiculous excuses for
dismissing the evidence which invariably leaves them with no evidence at all. This is what they
want because it gives them a blank canvass on which to do their fingerpainting.
Human error is inevitable but silliness is not. Silliness is a choice that some make because they
refuse to accept reality for reasons known only to themselves.
Your allies Don and Sky Throne both say they believe Oswald murdered JFK.
On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 6:49:29?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 6:22:02?AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
The investigation into JFK's assassination had many moving parts and it should come as noWas the conduct of the police lineups a result of "human error" ?
surprise that there would be errors, contradictions, and inconsistencies. None of these are
evidence of a conspiracy. They are evidence of humans being human.
https://gil-jesus.com/the-police-lineups/
Was the deliberate moving of the President's back wound a result of "human error" ?
https://gil-jesus.com/the-back-wound/
Was the harrassment and threatening of witnesses a result of "human error" ? >> https://gil-jesus.com/evidence-of-witness-harrassment/
The case for Oswald's innocence begins and ends with the conduct of the authorities.
How they handled Oswald.
How they handled the evidence.
How they handled the witnesses.
The credibility of a criminal case rests solely on the credibility and professionalism of the officers who put the case together.
In the criminal justice system, there is NO ROOM FOR ERROR, because the least little error can be enough to cast doubt in the minds of reasonable and prudent people.
And this is something you Lone Nutters don't seem to grasp.
There certainly WAS enough evidence in this case to cast doubt on Oswald's guilt.
And anyone who doesn't believe that is just full of shit.
( Are you feeling me, girl ? / "Edward Jackson" )
Silliness is a choice that some make because they refuse to accept reality for reasons known only to themselves.There is no group sillier than the Lone Nutters, who are large on comments and insults, but way too short on providing evidence.
And who refuse to "accept reality" that there is evidence indicating that the case was fraudulent.
And they "refuse to accept reality for reasons known only to themselves".
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. ( Matt. 7:1-2 )
You people judge every day and you're so full of shit, even with all the press behind you, even with history in your favor, you STILL haven't been able to win this debate in over the last 20 years in this newsgroup.
There is the historical case against Oswald
You're a pathetic group of liars and online bullies who waste your lives insulting people you don't know and in the end you will prove to the world how your lives were meaningless.
On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 6:22:02?AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
The investigation into JFK's assassination had many moving parts and it should come as no
surprise that there would be errors, contradictions, and inconsistencies. None of these are
evidence of a conspiracy. They are evidence of humans being human.
Was the conduct of the police lineups a result of "human error" ? >https://gil-jesus.com/the-police-lineups/
Was the deliberate moving of the President's back wound a result of "human error" ?
https://gil-jesus.com/the-back-wound/
Was the harrassment and threatening of witnesses a result of "human error" ? >https://gil-jesus.com/evidence-of-witness-harrassment/
The case for Oswald's innocence begins and ends with the conduct of the authorities.
How they handled Oswald.
How they handled the evidence.
How they handled the witnesses.
The credibility of a criminal case rests solely on the credibility and professionalism of the officers who put the case together.
In the criminal justice system, there is NO ROOM FOR ERROR, because the least little error can be enough to cast doubt in the minds of reasonable and prudent people.
And this is something you Lone Nutters don't seem to grasp.
There certainly WAS enough evidence in this case to cast doubt on Oswald's guilt.
And anyone who doesn't believe that is just full of shit.
( Are you feeling me, girl ? / "Edward Jackson" )
Silliness is a choice that some make because they refuse to accept reality for reasons known only to themselves.
There is no group sillier than the Lone Nutters, who are large on comments and insults, but way too short on providing evidence.
And who refuse to "accept reality" that there is evidence indicating that the case was fraudulent.
And they "refuse to accept reality for reasons known only to themselves".
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. ( Matt. 7:1-2 )
You people judge every day and you're so full of shit, even with all the press behind you, even with history in your favor, you STILL haven't been able to win this debate in over the last 20 years in this newsgroup.
You're a pathetic group of liars and online bullies who waste your lives insulting people you don't know and in the end you will prove to the world how your lives were meaningless.
All the data following the murder of JFK is unreliable,
except for the murder of Oswald.
ne
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 7:53:39?PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:Single-Bullet Theory never seem bothered in the least by those last observations I just mentioned. They'll simply add yet another bullet to the mix to account for John Connally's back wound.
"Isn't it rather remarkable that the person sitting in front of JFK also had a bullet wound in his upper back? Plus the added facts of JFK having a bullet hole in his throat and JFK having no bullets in his body. Conspiracy theorists who hate the
No, for those that believe in Body Alteration — the pre-autopsy
modification of JFK’s body to make it appear when the shots came from
the rear (when in Lifton’s theory all the shooters were in front of
the President) — the only right answer is Connally’s wounds were
altered as well.
On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 04:53:49 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
wrote:
So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
"virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?
Chickenshit is TERRIFIED of this simple honest question. He knows
that Bugliosi was a moron if he truly thought this... yet you can't
get Chickenshit to publicly acknowledge that Bugliosi said this.
It's a simple "Yes" or "No" question, and Chickenshit cannot cite
where he has EVER answered it. (Without immediately denying it.)
So it's going to keep getting asked until Chickenshit answers it.
On Tue, 5 Sep 2023 11:22:20 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
wrote:
So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
"virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?
Chickenshit is TERRIFIED of this simple honest question. He knows
that Bugliosi was a moron if he truly thought this... yet you can't
get Chickenshit to publicly acknowledge that Bugliosi said this.
It's a simple "Yes" or "No" question, and Chickenshit cannot cite
where he has EVER answered it. (Without immediately denying it.)
So it's going to keep getting asked until Chickenshit answers it.
On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 2:28:50 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
On Tue, 5 Sep 2023 11:22:20 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
wrote:
So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
"virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?
Chickenshit is TERRIFIED of this simple honest question. He knows
that Bugliosi was a moron if he truly thought this... yet you can't
get Chickenshit to publicly acknowledge that Bugliosi said this.
It's a simple "Yes" or "No" question, and Chickenshit cannot cite
where he has EVER answered it. (Without immediately denying it.)
So it's going to keep getting asked until Chickenshit answers it.<snicker> Works every time.
The Swamp Creature really outdid himself today. I guess he gets constipated by those long
weekends and has to really take a dump when he comes in on Tuesday.
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