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  • Provable Lies Of The Warren Commission - #3 - Just For Coward Corbutt

    From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 21 08:02:15 2023
    "Givens thought this was about 11:55 a.m. None of the Depository
    employees is known to have seen Oswald again until after the
    shooting." (WCR 143)

    This is, yet again, another lie of the Warren Commission. Looking at
    the underlying evidence that *they* had, we have the following:

    "Yesterday at about 12:00 Noon, this fellow Lee says to me, "I'm going
    up to eat" and I went on to my lunch." - Affidavit of Eddie Piper

    Mr. BALL. Was that the last time you saw him?
    Mr. PIPER. Just at 12 o'clock.
    Mr. BALL. Where were you at 12 o'clock?
    Mr. PIPER. Down on the first floor.
    Mr. BALL. What was he doing?
    Mr. PIPER. Well, I said to him---"It's about lunch time. I believe
    I'll go have lunch." So, he says, "Yeah"---he mumbled something---I
    don't know whether he said he was going up or going out, so I got my
    sandwich off of the radiator and went on back to the first window of
    the first floor. (6H 383)

    Mr. BALL - Did you see him from time to time during that day?
    Mr. SHELLEY - I am sure I did. I do remember seeing him when I came
    down to. eat lunch about 10 to 12.
    Mr. BALL - Where had you been working?
    Mr. SHELLEY - I had been on the sixth floor with the boys laying that
    floor that morning.
    Mr. BALL - What time did you go down and eat lunch?
    Mr. SHELLEY - It was around 10 'til. (6H 328)

    And, of course, we have Carolyn Arnold, who reports seeing LHO around
    12:15 in the 2nd floor lunchroom. (CD 5 pg 41)

    The WC lied when it stated that "None of the Depository employees is
    known to have seen Oswald again until after the shooting." Their own
    evidence shows that he was seen *before* the time that Givens
    asserted, down on the 1st floor, and was seen repeatedly on either the
    1st or 2nd floor *after* Given's alleged sighting.

    Why does the "truth" need a lie to support it?

    Another question lurkers may wish to consider: why do LNT'ers run from
    these questions? I rarely get responses from any but the trolls - and
    no response has yet refuted the clear lies of the WCR.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to Admin@ConspiracyJFKForum.com on Tue Aug 22 06:46:10 2023
    On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 08:02:15 -0700, Ben Holmes
    <Admin@ConspiracyJFKForum.com> wrote:

    "Givens thought this was about 11:55 a.m. None of the Depository
    employees is known to have seen Oswald again until after the
    shooting." (WCR 143)

    This is, yet again, another lie of the Warren Commission. Looking at
    the underlying evidence that *they* had, we have the following:

    "Yesterday at about 12:00 Noon, this fellow Lee says to me, "I'm going
    up to eat" and I went on to my lunch." - Affidavit of Eddie Piper

    Mr. BALL. Was that the last time you saw him?
    Mr. PIPER. Just at 12 o'clock.
    Mr. BALL. Where were you at 12 o'clock?
    Mr. PIPER. Down on the first floor.
    Mr. BALL. What was he doing?
    Mr. PIPER. Well, I said to him---"It's about lunch time. I believe
    I'll go have lunch." So, he says, "Yeah"---he mumbled something---I
    don't know whether he said he was going up or going out, so I got my
    sandwich off of the radiator and went on back to the first window of
    the first floor. (6H 383)

    Mr. BALL - Did you see him from time to time during that day?
    Mr. SHELLEY - I am sure I did. I do remember seeing him when I came
    down to. eat lunch about 10 to 12.
    Mr. BALL - Where had you been working?
    Mr. SHELLEY - I had been on the sixth floor with the boys laying that
    floor that morning.
    Mr. BALL - What time did you go down and eat lunch?
    Mr. SHELLEY - It was around 10 'til. (6H 328)

    And, of course, we have Carolyn Arnold, who reports seeing LHO around
    12:15 in the 2nd floor lunchroom. (CD 5 pg 41)

    The WC lied when it stated that "None of the Depository employees is
    known to have seen Oswald again until after the shooting." Their own
    evidence shows that he was seen *before* the time that Givens
    asserted, down on the 1st floor, and was seen repeatedly on either the
    1st or 2nd floor *after* Given's alleged sighting.

    Why does the "truth" need a lie to support it?

    Another question lurkers may wish to consider: why do LNT'ers run from
    these questions? I rarely get responses from any but the trolls - and
    no response has yet refuted the clear lies of the WCR.


    Dead silence not only from Corbutt, but EVERY OTHER BELIEVER in this
    forum... such COWARDICE!!!

    And acknowledgement by them that they can't defend the WCR.

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Tue Aug 22 10:14:45 2023
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 9:46:14 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 08:02:15 -0700, Ben Holmes <Ad...@ConspiracyJFKForum.com> wrote:

    "Givens thought this was about 11:55 a.m. None of the Depository
    employees is known to have seen Oswald again until after the
    shooting." (WCR 143)

    This is, yet again, another lie of the Warren Commission. Looking at
    the underlying evidence that *they* had, we have the following:

    "Yesterday at about 12:00 Noon, this fellow Lee says to me, "I'm going
    up to eat" and I went on to my lunch." - Affidavit of Eddie Piper

    Mr. BALL. Was that the last time you saw him?
    Mr. PIPER. Just at 12 o'clock.
    Mr. BALL. Where were you at 12 o'clock?
    Mr. PIPER. Down on the first floor.
    Mr. BALL. What was he doing?
    Mr. PIPER. Well, I said to him---"It's about lunch time. I believe
    I'll go have lunch." So, he says, "Yeah"---he mumbled something---I
    don't know whether he said he was going up or going out, so I got my >sandwich off of the radiator and went on back to the first window of
    the first floor. (6H 383)

    Mr. BALL - Did you see him from time to time during that day?
    Mr. SHELLEY - I am sure I did. I do remember seeing him when I came
    down to. eat lunch about 10 to 12.
    Mr. BALL - Where had you been working?
    Mr. SHELLEY - I had been on the sixth floor with the boys laying that >floor that morning.
    Mr. BALL - What time did you go down and eat lunch?
    Mr. SHELLEY - It was around 10 'til. (6H 328)

    And, of course, we have Carolyn Arnold, who reports seeing LHO around >12:15 in the 2nd floor lunchroom. (CD 5 pg 41)

    The WC lied when it stated that "None of the Depository employees is
    known to have seen Oswald again until after the shooting." Their own >evidence shows that he was seen *before* the time that Givens
    asserted, down on the 1st floor, and was seen repeatedly on either the
    1st or 2nd floor *after* Given's alleged sighting.

    Why does the "truth" need a lie to support it?

    Another question lurkers may wish to consider: why do LNT'ers run from >these questions? I rarely get responses from any but the trolls - and
    no response has yet refuted the clear lies of the WCR.
    Dead silence not only from Corbutt, but EVERY OTHER BELIEVER in this forum... such COWARDICE!!!

    Nobody cares about your fringe resets, troll.

    Make yourself useful and put a scenario on the table for consideration that knocks the WCR out of contention.

    And acknowledgement by them that they can't defend the WCR.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 22 10:28:10 2023
    On Tue, 22 Aug 2023 10:14:45 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirslick@fast.net>
    wrote:


    So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
    "virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?

    Chickenshit is TERRIFIED of this simple honest question. He knows
    that Bugliosi was a moron if he truly thought this... yet you can't
    get Chickenshit to publicly acknowledge that Bugliosi said this.

    It's a simple "Yes" or "No" question, and Chickenshit cannot cite
    where he has EVER answered it. (Without immediately denying it.)

    So it's going to keep getting asked until Chickenshit answers it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to Admin@ConspiracyJFKForum.com on Wed Aug 23 08:59:15 2023
    On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 08:02:15 -0700, Ben Holmes
    <Admin@ConspiracyJFKForum.com> wrote:

    "Givens thought this was about 11:55 a.m. None of the Depository
    employees is known to have seen Oswald again until after the
    shooting." (WCR 143)

    This is, yet again, another lie of the Warren Commission. Looking at
    the underlying evidence that *they* had, we have the following:

    "Yesterday at about 12:00 Noon, this fellow Lee says to me, "I'm going
    up to eat" and I went on to my lunch." - Affidavit of Eddie Piper

    Mr. BALL. Was that the last time you saw him?
    Mr. PIPER. Just at 12 o'clock.
    Mr. BALL. Where were you at 12 o'clock?
    Mr. PIPER. Down on the first floor.
    Mr. BALL. What was he doing?
    Mr. PIPER. Well, I said to him---"It's about lunch time. I believe
    I'll go have lunch." So, he says, "Yeah"---he mumbled something---I
    don't know whether he said he was going up or going out, so I got my
    sandwich off of the radiator and went on back to the first window of
    the first floor. (6H 383)

    Mr. BALL - Did you see him from time to time during that day?
    Mr. SHELLEY - I am sure I did. I do remember seeing him when I came
    down to. eat lunch about 10 to 12.
    Mr. BALL - Where had you been working?
    Mr. SHELLEY - I had been on the sixth floor with the boys laying that
    floor that morning.
    Mr. BALL - What time did you go down and eat lunch?
    Mr. SHELLEY - It was around 10 'til. (6H 328)

    And, of course, we have Carolyn Arnold, who reports seeing LHO around
    12:15 in the 2nd floor lunchroom. (CD 5 pg 41)

    The WC lied when it stated that "None of the Depository employees is
    known to have seen Oswald again until after the shooting." Their own
    evidence shows that he was seen *before* the time that Givens
    asserted, down on the 1st floor, and was seen repeatedly on either the
    1st or 2nd floor *after* Given's alleged sighting.

    Why does the "truth" need a lie to support it?

    Another question lurkers may wish to consider: why do LNT'ers run from
    these questions? I rarely get responses from any but the trolls - and
    no response has yet refuted the clear lies of the WCR.

    Not a SINGLE believe was able to defend the WCR from this proven lie
    they told.

    So sad! Corbutt lost.

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