• Provable Lies Of The Warren Commission - #2 - Just For Coward Corbutt

    From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 18 07:15:43 2023
    "On Friday, November 1, Oswald did cash a Texas Unemployment
    Commission check for $33 at another supermarket in Irving..." (WCR
    331)

    "Mrs. Tarrants stated as best as she recalls, on Thursday night,
    October 31, 1963 LEE HARVEY OSWALD appeared at the cashier's cage and presented the above check to her and requested that it be cashed." (CE
    1165 pg 6)

    Notice that yet again, the actual *TESTIMONY* is in conflict with what
    the Warren Commission said it was... The Warren Commission had no
    evidence for Oswald cashing a check on Friday, rather than Thursday -
    but this wouldn't have fit the evolving storyline. The WC clearly
    didn't want to provide proof that a Thursday visit to Irving was not
    unique - for their theory needed a unique visit on a Thursday to pick
    up a rifle. They simply lied in order to do so.

    Watch folks, as Corbutt fails to cite ANY evidence that underlies the
    WCR lie quoted above...

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Fri Aug 18 10:02:38 2023
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 10:16:01 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    "On Friday, November 1, Oswald did cash a Texas Unemployment
    Commission check for $33 at another supermarket in Irving..." (WCR
    331)

    "Mrs. Tarrants stated as best as she recalls, on Thursday night,
    October 31, 1963 LEE HARVEY OSWALD appeared at the cashier's cage and presented the above check to her and requested that it be cashed." (CE
    1165 pg 6)

    Notice that yet again, the actual *TESTIMONY* is in conflict with what
    the Warren Commission said it was... The Warren Commission had no
    evidence for Oswald cashing a check on Friday, rather than Thursday -
    but this wouldn't have fit the evolving storyline. The WC clearly
    didn't want to provide proof

    How does a witness saying "as best as she can recall" constitute proof of anything?

    that a Thursday visit to Irving was not
    unique - for their theory needed a unique visit on a Thursday to pick
    up a rifle. They simply lied in order to do so.

    Watch folks, as Corbutt fails to cite ANY evidence that underlies the
    WCR lie quoted above...

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  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Fri Aug 18 10:27:43 2023
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 10:16:01 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    "On Friday, November 1, Oswald did cash a Texas Unemployment
    Commission check for $33 at another supermarket in Irving..." (WCR
    331)

    "Mrs. Tarrants stated as best as she recalls, on Thursday night,
    October 31, 1963 LEE HARVEY OSWALD appeared at the cashier's cage and presented the above check to her and requested that it be cashed." (CE
    1165 pg 6)

    Notice that yet again, the actual *TESTIMONY* is in conflict with what
    the Warren Commission said it was... The Warren Commission had no
    evidence for Oswald cashing a check on Friday, rather than Thursday -
    but this wouldn't have fit the evolving storyline. The WC clearly
    didn't want to provide proof that a Thursday visit to Irving was not
    unique - for their theory needed a unique visit on a Thursday to pick
    up a rifle. They simply lied in order to do so.

    Watch folks, as Corbutt fails to cite ANY evidence that underlies the
    WCR lie quoted above...

    And I find it odd that the WC never published copies of Oswald's paychecks from the Texas School Book Depository.
    They published copies of the checks from Jaggers-Childs-Stovall. ( CE 1174 ) They published copies of the checks from the William B. Reilly Company in New Orleans. ( CE 1175 )
    Neither employments at these businesses were connected to the assassination.

    But paychecks from the employer from whose building he allegedly fired the shots that killed the President they didn't publish ?
    If they were going to publish ANY of Oswald's checks, you would think they would publish those.

    But they couldn't because then they'd have to publish a copy of that check that was cashed on Thursday, October 31, 1963 at the A&P.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to gjjmail1202@gmail.com on Fri Aug 18 10:31:06 2023
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 10:27:43 -0700 (PDT), Gil Jesus
    <gjjmail1202@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 10:16:01?AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    "On Friday, November 1, Oswald did cash a Texas Unemployment
    Commission check for $33 at another supermarket in Irving..." (WCR
    331)

    "Mrs. Tarrants stated as best as she recalls, on Thursday night,
    October 31, 1963 LEE HARVEY OSWALD appeared at the cashier's cage and
    presented the above check to her and requested that it be cashed." (CE
    1165 pg 6)

    Notice that yet again, the actual *TESTIMONY* is in conflict with what
    the Warren Commission said it was... The Warren Commission had no
    evidence for Oswald cashing a check on Friday, rather than Thursday -
    but this wouldn't have fit the evolving storyline. The WC clearly
    didn't want to provide proof that a Thursday visit to Irving was not
    unique - for their theory needed a unique visit on a Thursday to pick
    up a rifle. They simply lied in order to do so.

    Watch folks, as Corbutt fails to cite ANY evidence that underlies the
    WCR lie quoted above...

    And I find it odd that the WC never published copies of Oswald's paychecks from the Texas School Book Depository.
    They published copies of the checks from Jaggers-Childs-Stovall. ( CE 1174 ) >They published copies of the checks from the William B. Reilly Company in New Orleans. ( CE 1175 )
    Neither employments at these businesses were connected to the assassination.

    But paychecks from the employer from whose building he allegedly fired the shots that killed the President they didn't publish ?
    If they were going to publish ANY of Oswald's checks, you would think they would publish those.

    But they couldn't because then they'd have to publish a copy of that check that was cashed on Thursday, October 31, 1963 at the A&P.


    Ouch! Watching every believer in this forum get spanked hurt just
    watching!

    I predict dead silence from all the believers...

    Logical fallacies, yes.
    Outright lies, yes.

    But address the topic raised?

    Dead silence.

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  • From Chuck Schuyler@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Fri Aug 18 11:37:55 2023
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 12:27:44 PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 10:16:01 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    "On Friday, November 1, Oswald did cash a Texas Unemployment
    Commission check for $33 at another supermarket in Irving..." (WCR
    331)

    "Mrs. Tarrants stated as best as she recalls, on Thursday night,
    October 31, 1963 LEE HARVEY OSWALD appeared at the cashier's cage and presented the above check to her and requested that it be cashed." (CE 1165 pg 6)

    Notice that yet again, the actual *TESTIMONY* is in conflict with what
    the Warren Commission said it was... The Warren Commission had no
    evidence for Oswald cashing a check on Friday, rather than Thursday -
    but this wouldn't have fit the evolving storyline. The WC clearly
    didn't want to provide proof that a Thursday visit to Irving was not unique - for their theory needed a unique visit on a Thursday to pick
    up a rifle. They simply lied in order to do so.

    Watch folks, as Corbutt fails to cite ANY evidence that underlies the
    WCR lie quoted above...
    And I find it odd that the WC never published copies of Oswald's paychecks from the Texas School Book Depository.
    They published copies of the checks from Jaggers-Childs-Stovall. ( CE 1174 ) They published copies of the checks from the William B. Reilly Company in New Orleans. ( CE 1175 )
    Neither employments at these businesses were connected to the assassination.

    But paychecks from the employer from whose building he allegedly fired the shots that killed the President they didn't publish ?
    If they were going to publish ANY of Oswald's checks, you would think they would publish those.

    But they couldn't because then they'd have to publish a copy of that check that was cashed on Thursday, October 31, 1963 at the A&P.


    How does this hobby point harm the idea that Oswald killed JFK and JDT?

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to chuckschuyler123@gmail.com on Fri Aug 18 11:46:33 2023
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 11:37:55 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler <chuckschuyler123@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 12:27:44?PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 10:16:01?AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    "On Friday, November 1, Oswald did cash a Texas Unemployment
    Commission check for $33 at another supermarket in Irving..." (WCR
    331)

    "Mrs. Tarrants stated as best as she recalls, on Thursday night,
    October 31, 1963 LEE HARVEY OSWALD appeared at the cashier's cage and
    presented the above check to her and requested that it be cashed." (CE
    1165 pg 6)

    Notice that yet again, the actual *TESTIMONY* is in conflict with what
    the Warren Commission said it was... The Warren Commission had no
    evidence for Oswald cashing a check on Friday, rather than Thursday -
    but this wouldn't have fit the evolving storyline. The WC clearly
    didn't want to provide proof that a Thursday visit to Irving was not
    unique - for their theory needed a unique visit on a Thursday to pick
    up a rifle. They simply lied in order to do so.

    Watch folks, as Corbutt fails to cite ANY evidence that underlies the
    WCR lie quoted above...

    And I find it odd that the WC never published copies of Oswald's paychecks from the Texas School Book Depository.
    They published copies of the checks from Jaggers-Childs-Stovall. ( CE 1174 ) >> They published copies of the checks from the William B. Reilly Company in New Orleans. ( CE 1175 )
    Neither employments at these businesses were connected to the assassination. >>
    But paychecks from the employer from whose building he allegedly fired the shots that killed the President they didn't publish ?
    If they were going to publish ANY of Oswald's checks, you would think they would publish those.

    But they couldn't because then they'd have to publish a copy of that check that was cashed on Thursday, October 31, 1963 at the A&P.

    How does this hobby point harm the idea that Oswald killed JFK and JDT?


    How can you arrive at the truth by lying about the evidence?

    Why will you refuse to answer the above question?

    Why do you run from virtually EVERY QUESTION I ASK?

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to geowright1963@gmail.com on Fri Aug 18 12:41:48 2023
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 12:29:54 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <geowright1963@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 1:27:44?PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 10:16:01?AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    "On Friday, November 1, Oswald did cash a Texas Unemployment
    Commission check for $33 at another supermarket in Irving..." (WCR
    331)

    "Mrs. Tarrants stated as best as she recalls, on Thursday night,
    October 31, 1963 LEE HARVEY OSWALD appeared at the cashier's cage and
    presented the above check to her and requested that it be cashed." (CE
    1165 pg 6)

    Notice that yet again, the actual *TESTIMONY* is in conflict with what
    the Warren Commission said it was... The Warren Commission had no
    evidence for Oswald cashing a check on Friday, rather than Thursday -
    but this wouldn't have fit the evolving storyline. The WC clearly
    didn't want to provide proof that a Thursday visit to Irving was not
    unique - for their theory needed a unique visit on a Thursday to pick
    up a rifle. They simply lied in order to do so.

    Watch folks, as Corbutt fails to cite ANY evidence that underlies the
    WCR lie quoted above...

    And I find it odd that the WC never published copies of Oswald's paychecks from the Texas School Book Depository.

    Not surprising that you would think that is odd since you look at the wrong things incorrectly.


    A lie on your part. One that you can't cite for...

    Notice that my statement above that Corbutt fails to cite ANY evidence underlying the WCR's claim still remains.

    Unrefuted.


    They published copies of the checks from Jaggers-Childs-Stovall. ( CE 1174 ) >> They published copies of the checks from the William B. Reilly Company in New Orleans. ( CE 1175 )
    Neither employments at these businesses were connected to the assassination.

    So explain why it is significant that they didn't post his TSBD checks, if in fact they didn't. I
    learned long ago not to accept conspiracy hobbyist claims at face value, but assuming that
    is true, tell us why that matters.


    It's explained below. Can't read?


    But paychecks from the employer from whose building he allegedly fired the shots that killed the President they didn't publish ?

    So?


    Even *YOU* should be able to figure this out...


    If they were going to publish ANY of Oswald's checks, you would think they would publish those.


    Logical fallacy deleted.


    But they couldn't because then they'd have to publish a copy of that check that was cashed on Thursday, October 31, 1963 at the A&P.

    Oh, now there's the smoking gun.


    And surprising no-one at all, Corbutt simply ran...

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Fri Aug 18 12:29:54 2023
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 1:27:44 PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 10:16:01 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    "On Friday, November 1, Oswald did cash a Texas Unemployment
    Commission check for $33 at another supermarket in Irving..." (WCR
    331)

    "Mrs. Tarrants stated as best as she recalls, on Thursday night,
    October 31, 1963 LEE HARVEY OSWALD appeared at the cashier's cage and presented the above check to her and requested that it be cashed." (CE 1165 pg 6)

    Notice that yet again, the actual *TESTIMONY* is in conflict with what
    the Warren Commission said it was... The Warren Commission had no
    evidence for Oswald cashing a check on Friday, rather than Thursday -
    but this wouldn't have fit the evolving storyline. The WC clearly
    didn't want to provide proof that a Thursday visit to Irving was not unique - for their theory needed a unique visit on a Thursday to pick
    up a rifle. They simply lied in order to do so.

    Watch folks, as Corbutt fails to cite ANY evidence that underlies the
    WCR lie quoted above...
    And I find it odd that the WC never published copies of Oswald's paychecks from the Texas School Book Depository.

    Not surprising that you would think that is odd since you look at the wrong things incorrectly.

    They published copies of the checks from Jaggers-Childs-Stovall. ( CE 1174 ) They published copies of the checks from the William B. Reilly Company in New Orleans. ( CE 1175 )
    Neither employments at these businesses were connected to the assassination.

    So explain why it is significant that they didn't post his TSBD checks, if in fact they didn't. I
    learned long ago not to accept conspiracy hobbyist claims at face value, but assuming that
    is true, tell us why that matters.

    But paychecks from the employer from whose building he allegedly fired the shots that killed the President they didn't publish ?

    So?

    If they were going to publish ANY of Oswald's checks, you would think they would publish those.

    Maybe they did it just to shove a bug up your ass. Did it work?

    But they couldn't because then they'd have to publish a copy of that check that was cashed on Thursday, October 31, 1963 at the A&P.

    Oh, now there's the smoking gun.

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  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to John Corbett on Fri Aug 18 13:21:42 2023
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:29:56 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    So explain why it is significant that they didn't post his TSBD checks, if in fact they didn't. I
    learned long ago not to accept conspiracy hobbyist claims at face value, but assuming that
    is true, tell us why that matters.

    Tell us what the significance is of publishing the Jaggers-Childs-Stovall and William B. Reily checks.
    WTF do they have to do with the assassination of the President ?

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  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Fri Aug 18 13:23:25 2023
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:41:55 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    And surprising no-one at all, Corbutt simply ran...

    Ask him if he's being entertained yet.

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  • From Chuck Schuyler@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Fri Aug 18 13:26:04 2023
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:21:44 PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:29:56 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    So explain why it is significant that they didn't post his TSBD checks, if in fact they didn't. I
    learned long ago not to accept conspiracy hobbyist claims at face value, but assuming that
    is true, tell us why that matters.

    Tell us what the significance is of publishing the Jaggers-Childs-Stovall and William B. Reily checks.
    WTF do they have to do with the assassination of the President ?

    Did they give a reason? I honestly don't know, so supply the answer if you know. Since you're acting as Oswald's internet attorney for a case that will never go to trial, how do copies of his paychecks from one job but not the other harm the idea that he
    shot and killed JFK and JDT and wounded JBC?

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Fri Aug 18 13:56:16 2023
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 4:21:44 PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:29:56 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    So explain why it is significant that they didn't post his TSBD checks, if in fact they didn't. I
    learned long ago not to accept conspiracy hobbyist claims at face value, but assuming that
    is true, tell us why that matters.
    Tell us what the significance is of publishing the Jaggers-Childs-Stovall and William B. Reily checks.
    WTF do they have to do with the assassination of the President ?

    I never said it did have any significance so I have no need to explain it. Here's where you, like
    so many CTs before you, fail to understand the difference between the WCR and the 26 volumes
    of data, exhibits, testimony, etc. You think the WCR is just the Reader's Digest version of the
    26 volumes. The 26 volumes are a collection of raw data. Not all of it had any significance. The
    checks from past employers is a perfect example of that. The 26 volumes is a repository of
    everything that was collected during the course of the investigation. It was the job of the WC
    to sift through all that raw data and determine what had evidentiary value. Much of it did not
    and was discarded as irrelevant. The 888 page report contains the conclusions of the WC. There
    was no need for them or anybody else to explain every item contained in the 26 volumes. The
    only thing that matters was the 888 page report. The fact that you think the presence of those
    past checks matters is a perfect example of what Bud means when he says conspiracy hobbyists
    look at all the wrong things and do so incorrectly. Why the hell would you even give those
    checks a second thought?

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Fri Aug 18 13:56:56 2023
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 4:21:44 PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:29:56 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    So explain why it is significant that they didn't post his TSBD checks, if in fact they didn't. I
    learned long ago not to accept conspiracy hobbyist claims at face value, but assuming that
    is true, tell us why that matters.
    Tell us what the significance is of publishing the Jaggers-Childs-Stovall and William B. Reily checks.
    WTF do they have to do with the assassination of the President ?

    Where do you think he got the money to buy the weapons he killed people with?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to gjjmail1202@gmail.com on Fri Aug 18 13:57:50 2023
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 13:23:25 -0700 (PDT), Gil Jesus
    <gjjmail1202@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:41:55?PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    And surprising no-one at all, Corbutt simply ran...

    Ask him if he's being entertained yet.

    He stopped being entertained by me when I was busy refuting Bugliosi,
    and he had no responses...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to gjjmail1202@gmail.com on Fri Aug 18 13:58:48 2023
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 13:21:42 -0700 (PDT), Gil Jesus
    <gjjmail1202@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:29:56?PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    So explain why it is significant that they didn't post his TSBD checks, if in fact they didn't. I
    learned long ago not to accept conspiracy hobbyist claims at face value, but assuming that
    is true, tell us why that matters.

    Tell us what the significance is of publishing the Jaggers-Childs-Stovall and William B. Reily checks.
    WTF do they have to do with the assassination of the President ?


    Stand by for more cowardice...

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to chuckschuyler123@gmail.com on Fri Aug 18 14:00:42 2023
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 13:26:04 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler <chuckschuyler123@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:21:44?PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:29:56?PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    So explain why it is significant that they didn't post his TSBD checks, if in fact they didn't. I
    learned long ago not to accept conspiracy hobbyist claims at face value, but assuming that
    is true, tell us why that matters.

    Tell us what the significance is of publishing the Jaggers-Childs-Stovall and William B. Reily checks.
    WTF do they have to do with the assassination of the President ?

    Did they give a reason? I honestly don't know, so supply the answer
    if you know.

    So reason has failed you.

    Not surprising...

    Logical fallacy deleted...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Fri Aug 18 14:00:56 2023
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 1:31:12 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 10:27:43 -0700 (PDT), Gil Jesus
    <gjjma...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 10:16:01?AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    "On Friday, November 1, Oswald did cash a Texas Unemployment
    Commission check for $33 at another supermarket in Irving..." (WCR
    331)

    "Mrs. Tarrants stated as best as she recalls, on Thursday night,
    October 31, 1963 LEE HARVEY OSWALD appeared at the cashier's cage and
    presented the above check to her and requested that it be cashed." (CE
    1165 pg 6)

    Notice that yet again, the actual *TESTIMONY* is in conflict with what
    the Warren Commission said it was... The Warren Commission had no
    evidence for Oswald cashing a check on Friday, rather than Thursday -
    but this wouldn't have fit the evolving storyline. The WC clearly
    didn't want to provide proof that a Thursday visit to Irving was not
    unique - for their theory needed a unique visit on a Thursday to pick
    up a rifle. They simply lied in order to do so.

    Watch folks, as Corbutt fails to cite ANY evidence that underlies the
    WCR lie quoted above...

    And I find it odd that the WC never published copies of Oswald's paychecks from the Texas School Book Depository.
    They published copies of the checks from Jaggers-Childs-Stovall. ( CE 1174 )
    They published copies of the checks from the William B. Reilly Company in New Orleans. ( CE 1175 )
    Neither employments at these businesses were connected to the assassination.

    But paychecks from the employer from whose building he allegedly fired the shots that killed the President they didn't publish ?
    If they were going to publish ANY of Oswald's checks, you would think they would publish those.

    But they couldn't because then they'd have to publish a copy of that check that was cashed on Thursday, October 31, 1963 at the A&P.
    Ouch! Watching every believer in this forum get spanked hurt just
    watching!

    He spanked himself, and you were too stupid to correct him. The check that you think was cashed Oct 31st (but refuse to establish that it was) wasn`t a TSBD check, it was an unemployment check.

    I predict dead silence from all the believers...

    Logical fallacies, yes.
    Outright lies, yes.

    But address the topic raised?

    Dead silence.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Fri Aug 18 14:06:02 2023
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 2:46:40 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 11:37:55 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler <chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 12:27:44?PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 10:16:01?AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    "On Friday, November 1, Oswald did cash a Texas Unemployment
    Commission check for $33 at another supermarket in Irving..." (WCR
    331)

    "Mrs. Tarrants stated as best as she recalls, on Thursday night,
    October 31, 1963 LEE HARVEY OSWALD appeared at the cashier's cage and >>> presented the above check to her and requested that it be cashed." (CE >>> 1165 pg 6)

    Notice that yet again, the actual *TESTIMONY* is in conflict with what >>> the Warren Commission said it was... The Warren Commission had no
    evidence for Oswald cashing a check on Friday, rather than Thursday - >>> but this wouldn't have fit the evolving storyline. The WC clearly
    didn't want to provide proof that a Thursday visit to Irving was not
    unique - for their theory needed a unique visit on a Thursday to pick >>> up a rifle. They simply lied in order to do so.

    Watch folks, as Corbutt fails to cite ANY evidence that underlies the >>> WCR lie quoted above...

    And I find it odd that the WC never published copies of Oswald's paychecks from the Texas School Book Depository.
    They published copies of the checks from Jaggers-Childs-Stovall. ( CE 1174 )
    They published copies of the checks from the William B. Reilly Company in New Orleans. ( CE 1175 )
    Neither employments at these businesses were connected to the assassination.

    But paychecks from the employer from whose building he allegedly fired the shots that killed the President they didn't publish ?
    If they were going to publish ANY of Oswald's checks, you would think they would publish those.

    But they couldn't because then they'd have to publish a copy of that check that was cashed on Thursday, October 31, 1963 at the A&P.

    How does this hobby point harm the idea that Oswald killed JFK and JDT?
    How can you arrive at the truth by lying about the evidence?

    You refuse to show they lied. You refuse to look at information correctly, for what it is, and what it isn`t. A witness offering "as best as she recalls" is not a witness making a statement of fact.

    Why will you refuse to answer the above question?

    Why do you run from virtually EVERY QUESTION I ASK?

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to geowright1963@gmail.com on Fri Aug 18 14:08:07 2023
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 13:56:16 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <geowright1963@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 4:21:44?PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:29:56?PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    So explain why it is significant that they didn't post his TSBD checks, if in fact they didn't. I
    learned long ago not to accept conspiracy hobbyist claims at face value, but assuming that
    is true, tell us why that matters.
    Tell us what the significance is of publishing the Jaggers-Childs-Stovall and William B. Reily checks.
    WTF do they have to do with the assassination of the President ?

    I never said it did have any significance so I have no need to explain it.


    It's **YOUR** bible - why can't you explain it?


    Here's where you, like
    so many CTs before you, fail to understand the difference between the WCR and the 26 volumes
    of data, exhibits, testimony, etc.


    Nothing Gil has stated would lead **ANY** honest intelligent person to
    such a conclusion.

    So clearly, you're simply illustrating once again that you use logical fallacies to cover the fact that you have no explanations.


    You think the WCR is just the Reader's Digest version of the
    26 volumes. The 26 volumes are a collection of raw data. Not all of it had any significance. The
    checks from past employers is a perfect example of that. The 26 volumes is a repository of
    everything that was collected during the course of the investigation. It was the job of the WC
    to sift through all that raw data and determine what had evidentiary value. Much of it did not
    and was discarded as irrelevant.


    Cite an example.

    But you won't... you're simply lying again...


    The 888 page report contains the conclusions of the WC. There was no
    need for them or anybody else to explain every item contained in the 26 volumes.


    There is, however, a need to explain RELEVANT evidence. And the
    paycheck showing when it was cashed was DIRECTLY RELEVANT to Oswald's
    trips. Quite the liar, aren't you?


    The only thing that matters was the 888 page report.


    That's a quite moronic statement.

    And the difference between liars like you and the rest of society...
    we look to the evidence.


    The fact that you think the presence of those
    past checks matters


    They clearly do - or you wouldn't be running for the hills as fast as
    you're going.


    It's posts like this that prove beyond any doubt whatsoever that
    believers are simply liars and cowards...

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  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to John Corbett on Sat Aug 19 02:27:32 2023
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 4:56:19 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    The only thing that matters was the 888 page report.

    This has to be one of the stupidest comments in internet history.

    How do you know the 26 volumes were "raw data" when you admitted you never read them ?
    Because somebody told you that ? And you always believe what you're told.
    Stop making excuses for your laziness and read the testimony.

    It's like saying that witness testimony in a murder case didn't matter, it was all raw data, and
    all that mattered was the final summation by the prosecution.

    Ridiculous.

    ROFLMAO

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Sat Aug 19 03:35:44 2023
    On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 5:27:34 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 4:56:19 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    The only thing that matters was the 888 page report.
    This has to be one of the stupidest comments in internet history.

    How do you know the 26 volumes were "raw data" when you admitted you never read them ?

    I said I've never read them cover to cover. I've referenced them often as needed. I know they
    contain irrelevant raw data because assholes like you keep bringing up the irrelevancies as if
    they somehow matter. Oswald's past paychecks are just the most recent example. Jack Ruby's
    mother's dentures are another. These are things that were gathered during the course of the
    investigation which added nothing to the investigation into the assassination and were thus
    disregarded after being documented. There is no mention of either in the 888 page report because the commissioners and their staff lawyers knew how meaningless they were. They didn't count on an army of snipe hunters going through that material and
    trying to make
    something out of it. Had those things mattered, they would have made it into the 888 page
    report. They didn't make the cut because they didn't matter.

    Because somebody told you that ? And you always believe what you're told.

    I believed you when you said those checks were in the 26 volumes. Maybe that was an error on
    my part.

    Stop making excuses for your laziness and read the testimony.

    I have better things to do than humor you. I read your crap because it humors me.

    It's like saying that witness testimony in a murder case didn't matter, it was all raw data, and
    all that mattered was the final summation by the prosecution.

    If a witness testimony shed light on the case, it would matter. If it didn't neither side would put
    the witness on the stand. Counsel on both sides conduct their investigations before the trial.
    They conduct interviews and take depositions from witnesses. They only put witnesses on the stand that have information that would help one side or the other. Neither side puts every
    witness they interview on the witness stand. Likewise, they don't enter evidence everything
    they collect. The build their case on what is determined to be relevant and disregard the rest,
    just as the WC did in going through what was collected and documented in the 26 volumes.

    Ridiculous.

    What's ridiculous is that a crack defense lawyer like you doesn't know these things. I knew Perry
    Mason. Perry Mason was my friend. Gil, you're no Perry Mason.

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Sat Aug 19 08:26:20 2023
    On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 5:27:34 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 4:56:19 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    The only thing that matters was the 888 page report.
    This has to be one of the stupidest comments in internet history.

    How do you know the 26 volumes were "raw data" when you admitted you never read them ?
    Because somebody told you that ? And you always believe what you're told. Stop making excuses for your laziness and read the testimony.

    It's like saying that witness testimony in a murder case didn't matter,

    There is your problem there, you insist on looking at the investigation incorrectly. You start out wrong, you end up wrong, stop pretending the apple is an orange. It was an investigation with the purpose of examining information and returning findings.

    Have you ever saw a murder case where they gathered payroll checks at all? Do you think when Reagan was shot that got affidavits from everyone down the street? How would that provide insight, wouldn`t it only produce muddle (people who thought the shots
    came from elsewhere, people who saw someone running before the shooting and associated it with the shooting, ect)? Two things make this case unique, it was over investigated with a vast amount of information made available, and a large contingent of
    motivated and fanatical people with childish imaginations descended on that information with the intention of exploiting it for their childish ideas.

    it was all raw data, and
    all that mattered was the final summation by the prosecution.

    Ridiculous.

    ROFLMAO

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to gjjmail1202@gmail.com on Mon Aug 21 07:44:34 2023
    On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 02:27:32 -0700 (PDT), Gil Jesus
    <gjjmail1202@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 4:56:19?PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    The only thing that matters was the 888 page report.

    This has to be one of the stupidest comments in internet history.

    How do you know the 26 volumes were "raw data" when you admitted you never read them ?
    Because somebody told you that ? And you always believe what you're told. >Stop making excuses for your laziness and read the testimony.

    It's like saying that witness testimony in a murder case didn't matter, it was all raw data, and
    all that mattered was the final summation by the prosecution.

    Ridiculous.

    ROFLMAO

    Excellent summation...

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 21 07:44:34 2023
    On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 08:26:20 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirslick@fast.net>
    wrote:

    There is your problem there...

    So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
    "virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?

    Chickenshit is TERRIFIED of this simple honest question. He knows
    that Bugliosi was a moron if he truly thought this... yet you can't
    get Chickenshit to publicly acknowledge that Bugliosi said this.

    It's a simple "Yes" or "No" question, and Chickenshit cannot cite
    where he has EVER answered it.

    So it's going to keep getting asked until Chickenshit answers it.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to geowright1963@gmail.com on Mon Aug 21 07:44:34 2023
    On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 03:35:44 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <geowright1963@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 5:27:34?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 4:56:19?PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    The only thing that matters was the 888 page report.
    This has to be one of the stupidest comments in internet history.

    How do you know the 26 volumes were "raw data" when you admitted you never read them ?

    I said I've never read them ...

    Cowardice always runs... That's what cowardice does...

    EVERY

    SINGLE

    TIME!

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