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  • Another person who knew in advance JFK would be killed in Dallas

    From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 18 02:21:13 2023
    Maybe the Warren Commission supporters would like to take a crack at this one:

    How did this Cuban in a drugstore in San Antonio know the night before the assassination that Oswald was going to kill the President ?

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/62-109060-sec-10-pg.-67.png

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Fri Aug 18 02:41:32 2023
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 5:21:15 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    Maybe the Warren Commission supporters would like to take a crack at this one:

    How did this Cuban in a drugstore in San Antonio know the night before the assassination that Oswald was going to kill the President ?

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/62-109060-sec-10-pg.-67.png

    This would be compelling stuff if the person reporting it had done so BEFORE the assassination.
    This reminds me of the people who claim Nostradamus predicted the 9/11 attacks. If that's true,
    where the hell were those people on 9/10?

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  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to John Corbett on Fri Aug 18 02:55:03 2023
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 5:41:34 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    This would be compelling stuff if the person reporting it had done so BEFORE the assassination.

    So if someone hears something outrageous that he doesn't believe and doesn't immediately report it,
    then it comes true and he does report it, he has no credibility ?

    ROFLMAO

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  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to John Corbett on Fri Aug 18 05:13:19 2023
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 5:41:34 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    This would be compelling stuff if the person reporting it had done so BEFORE the assassination.

    That's right. A witness isn't credible unless he comes forward with information right away.
    Like Jack Ray Tatum.
    Oh wait, Tatum didn't come forward until 14 years later.
    That's ok. He's credible because he said Oswald was guilty.

    You people talk about witnesses looking for publicity.
    Who do you think got more publicity over the years, the witnesses who supported the Warren Commission or those who criticized it ?
    Who got more publicity over the years, the authors who wrote in support of the Warren Commission or its critics ?
    The CIA and its media allies have done all they could to control the narrative. And they stiil withhold files. Why, 60 years later ? Everybody in those files is dead.
    Give me a break.

    And BTW, as usual, you haven't answered the question.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to gjjmail1202@gmail.com on Fri Aug 18 06:54:30 2023
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 05:13:19 -0700 (PDT), Gil Jesus
    <gjjmail1202@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 5:41:34?AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    This would be compelling stuff if the person reporting it had done so BEFORE the assassination.

    That's right. A witness isn't credible unless he comes forward with information right away.
    Like Jack Ray Tatum.
    Oh wait, Tatum didn't come forward until 14 years later.
    That's ok. He's credible because he said Oswald was guilty.

    You people talk about witnesses looking for publicity.
    Who do you think got more publicity over the years, the witnesses who supported the Warren Commission or those who criticized it ?
    Who got more publicity over the years, the authors who wrote in support of the Warren Commission or its critics ?
    The CIA and its media allies have done all they could to control the narrative.
    And they stiil withhold files. Why, 60 years later ? Everybody in those files is dead.
    Give me a break.

    And BTW, as usual, you haven't answered the question.

    Of *COURSE* he hasn't answered the question. Questions are kryptonite
    to the "Supermen" of the WCR.

    It's also the easiest way to get them to demonstrate their cowardice & dishonesty.

    Witnesses that *DID* report it before it happened are ALSO not
    believed by the kooks. Thus proving their dishonesty.

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Fri Aug 18 08:44:04 2023
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 8:13:21 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 5:41:34 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    This would be compelling stuff if the person reporting it had done so BEFORE the assassination.
    That's right. A witness isn't credible unless he comes forward with information right away.

    So if you heard someone was going to assassinate the POTUS, you'd wait until the deed had
    been done before you spoke up about it.

    Like Jack Ray Tatum.
    Oh wait, Tatum didn't come forward until 14 years later.
    That's ok. He's credible because he said Oswald was guilty.

    I really don't give a shit what Jack Ray Tatum had to say.

    You people talk about witnesses looking for publicity.
    Who do you think got more publicity over the years, the witnesses who supported the Warren Commission or those who criticized it ?

    Mostly the ones the conspiracy hobbyists want to believe.

    Who got more publicity over the years, the authors who wrote in support of the Warren Commission or its critics ?

    Do you have a point?

    The CIA and its media allies have done all they could to control the narrative.
    And they stiil withhold files. Why, 60 years later ? Everybody in those files is dead.
    Give me a break.

    And BTW, as usual, you haven't answered the question.

    It's a loaded question based on a false pretense. How do you know the Cuban in the drugstore
    knew there was going to be an assassination? How do you know there was a Cuban in the
    drugstore? If he knew, why would he be telling it to complete strangers. How do you know Basila
    didn't make the story up. If I heard someone say the POTUS was going to be assassinated the
    next day and I thought there was even chance the person telling me this was correct, I sure as
    hell would be alerting law enforcement about what I heard.

    Now for the $64,000 question. If this story is true, how does that exonerate your client?

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  • From Chuck Schuyler@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Fri Aug 18 09:34:31 2023
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 4:21:15 AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    Maybe the Warren Commission supporters would like to take a crack at this one:

    How did this Cuban in a drugstore in San Antonio know the night before the assassination that Oswald was going to kill the President ?

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/62-109060-sec-10-pg.-67.png

    Apparently, even JFK knew he would be assassinated by a rifle from a building:

    https://theweek.com/articles/456206/did-jfk-predict-death

    Everyone was in on it!

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to chuckschuyler123@gmail.com on Fri Aug 18 09:38:33 2023
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 09:34:31 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler <chuckschuyler123@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 4:21:15?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    Maybe the Warren Commission supporters would like to take a crack at this one:

    How did this Cuban in a drugstore in San Antonio know the night before the assassination that Oswald was going to kill the President ?

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/62-109060-sec-10-pg.-67.png

    Apparently, even JFK knew he would be assassinated by a rifle from a building:

    https://theweek.com/articles/456206/did-jfk-predict-death

    Everyone was in on it!

    Notice folks, that Chuckles couldn't answer the question...

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to geowright1963@gmail.com on Fri Aug 18 09:15:57 2023
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 08:44:04 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <geowright1963@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 8:13:21?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 5:41:34?AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    This would be compelling stuff if the person reporting it had done so BEFORE the assassination.
    That's right. A witness isn't credible unless he comes forward with information right away.

    So if you heard someone was going to assassinate the POTUS, you'd wait until the deed had
    been done before you spoke up about it.


    Can you name this logical fallacy?

    Perhaps.

    Will you?

    Absolutely not.


    Like Jack Ray Tatum.
    Oh wait, Tatum didn't come forward until 14 years later.
    That's ok. He's credible because he said Oswald was guilty.

    I really don't give a shit what Jack Ray Tatum had to say.


    Logical fallacy.

    You didn't refute the statement.


    You people talk about witnesses looking for publicity.
    Who do you think got more publicity over the years, the witnesses who supported the Warren Commission or those who criticized it ?

    Mostly the ones the conspiracy hobbyists want to believe.


    Can you name this logical fallacy?


    Who got more publicity over the years, the authors who wrote in support of the Warren Commission or its critics ?

    Do you have a point?


    Looks like it was just made.


    The CIA and its media allies have done all they could to control the narrative.
    And they stiil withhold files. Why, 60 years later ? Everybody in those files is dead.
    Give me a break.

    And BTW, as usual, you haven't answered the question.

    It's a loaded question based on a false pretense.


    You cannot point to ANY legitimate question based on the evidence in
    this case that you will answer.


    How do you know the Cuban in the drugstore
    knew there was going to be an assassination? How do you know there was a Cuban in the
    drugstore? If he knew, why would he be telling it to complete strangers. How do you know Basila
    didn't make the story up. If I heard someone say the POTUS was going to be assassinated the
    next day and I thought there was even chance the person telling me this was correct, I sure as
    hell would be alerting law enforcement about what I heard.

    Now for the $64,000 question. If this story is true, how does that exonerate your client?


    Are you stupid enough to think that Oswald was going around telling
    people what he was about to do? That wasn't a '$64,000" question,
    that wasn't worth pennies.

    Nor is it true that people go running to the police all the time.

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  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Fri Aug 18 10:07:54 2023
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 12:38:41 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:

    Notice folks, that Chuckles couldn't answer the question...

    Cowards and liars can't answer a simple question honestly.
    You've proven that many times over the years.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to gjjmail1202@gmail.com on Fri Aug 18 10:11:08 2023
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 10:07:54 -0700 (PDT), Gil Jesus
    <gjjmail1202@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 12:38:41?PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:

    Notice folks, that Chuckles couldn't answer the question...

    Cowards and liars can't answer a simple question honestly.
    You've proven that many times over the years.

    Nah... it's the BELIEVERS THEMSELVES who prove it. I merely give them
    the opportunity... as do you.

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  • From Chuck Schuyler@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Fri Aug 18 11:32:05 2023
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 12:07:56 PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 12:38:41 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:

    Notice folks, that Chuckles couldn't answer the question...

    Cowards and liars can't answer a simple question honestly.

    Try asking a simple question honestly. The logical fallacy in your first post is called Begging the Question, where the assumption something is true is embedded in the query you're asking us to respond to.

    Don't do that.

    Review, please:

    https://www.scribbr.com/fallacies/begging-the-question-fallacy/

    "Begging the question fallacy is an argument where the conclusion is assumed in one of the premises. It is an attempt to prove something is true while simultaneously taking that same thing for granted. This line of reasoning is fallacious because the
    assumption is not justified by any evidence."


    You've proven that many times over the years.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to chuckschuyler123@gmail.com on Fri Aug 18 11:37:44 2023
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 11:32:05 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler <chuckschuyler123@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 12:07:56?PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 12:38:41?PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:

    Notice folks, that Chuckles couldn't answer the question...

    Cowards and liars can't answer a simple question honestly.

    Try asking a simple question honestly.


    Can you list **ANY** question EVER asked by a critic that fits your
    parameters?

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  • From Chuck Schuyler@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Fri Aug 18 11:40:14 2023
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 1:37:48 PM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 11:32:05 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler <chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 12:07:56?PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 12:38:41?PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:

    Notice folks, that Chuckles couldn't answer the question...

    Cowards and liars can't answer a simple question honestly.

    Try asking a simple question honestly.

    Can you list **ANY** question EVER asked by a critic that fits your parameters?

    Sure. Thousands of questions fit the bill.

    But Gil's didn't.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to chuckschuyler123@gmail.com on Fri Aug 18 11:43:05 2023
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 11:40:14 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler <chuckschuyler123@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 1:37:48?PM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 11:32:05 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
    <chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 12:07:56?PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 12:38:41?PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:

    Notice folks, that Chuckles couldn't answer the question...

    Cowards and liars can't answer a simple question honestly.

    Try asking a simple question honestly.

    Can you list **ANY** question EVER asked by a critic that fits your
    parameters?

    Sure.


    Yet you refused to do so.


    Thousands of questions fit the bill.


    And yet, like the moron you are, you couldn't answer the question.

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  • From Chuck Schuyler@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Fri Aug 18 13:17:00 2023
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 1:43:11 PM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 11:40:14 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler <chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 1:37:48?PM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 11:32:05 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
    <chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 12:07:56?PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 12:38:41?PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:

    Notice folks, that Chuckles couldn't answer the question...

    Cowards and liars can't answer a simple question honestly.

    Try asking a simple question honestly.

    Can you list **ANY** question EVER asked by a critic that fits your
    parameters?

    Sure.
    Yet you refused to do so.
    Thousands of questions fit the bill.

    And yet, like the moron you are, you couldn't answer the question.

    Others can see my answer. Why can't you?

    Gil's question was embedded with a logical fallacy called Begging the Question, and I provided a definition for Gil to read so he wouldn't keep making the same mistake.

    That was my answer. He begged the question with his original post. Fix the question.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to chuckschuyler123@gmail.com on Fri Aug 18 14:13:13 2023
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 13:17:00 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler <chuckschuyler123@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 1:43:11?PM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 11:40:14 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
    <chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 1:37:48?PM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 11:32:05 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
    <chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 12:07:56?PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 12:38:41?PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote: >>>>>>
    Notice folks, that Chuckles couldn't answer the question...

    Cowards and liars can't answer a simple question honestly.

    Try asking a simple question honestly.

    Can you list **ANY** question EVER asked by a critic that fits your
    parameters?

    Sure.

    Yet you refused to do so.


    Dead silence... Got spanked, didn't you?


    Thousands of questions fit the bill.

    And yet, like the moron you are, you couldn't answer the question.

    Others can see my answer. Why can't you?

    No stupid, no-one other than liars can see your answer. No-one has the SLIGHTEST clue what questions are both honest and simple. You've
    asserted that you *COULD* give an example... yet even after it's been
    made crystal clear to you ... you still refuse to do so.

    And I predict right here and now that you'll CONTINUE to prove your
    cowardice.


    Gil's question...
    That was my answer. He begged the question with his original post. Fix the question.


    Nothing to do with "Gil's question" can *POSSIBLY* be an answer to
    mine.

    I asked you to provide an example ... you refuse.

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Fri Aug 18 17:28:53 2023
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 5:13:21 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 13:17:00 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler <chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 1:43:11?PM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 11:40:14 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
    <chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 1:37:48?PM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 11:32:05 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
    <chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 12:07:56?PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote: >>>>>> On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 12:38:41?PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote: >>>>>>
    Notice folks, that Chuckles couldn't answer the question...

    Cowards and liars can't answer a simple question honestly.

    Try asking a simple question honestly.

    Can you list **ANY** question EVER asked by a critic that fits your >>>> parameters?

    Sure.

    Yet you refused to do so.
    Dead silence... Got spanked, didn't you?
    Thousands of questions fit the bill.

    And yet, like the moron you are, you couldn't answer the question.

    Others can see my answer. Why can't you?
    No stupid, no-one other than liars can see your answer. No-one has the SLIGHTEST clue what questions are both honest and simple.


    You've
    asserted that you *COULD* give an example... yet even after it's been
    made crystal clear to you ... you still refuse to do so.

    And I predict right here and now that you'll CONTINUE to prove your cowardice.


    Gil's question...
    That was my answer. He begged the question with his original post. Fix the question.
    Nothing to do with "Gil's question" can *POSSIBLY* be an answer to
    mine.

    I asked you to provide an example ... you refuse.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 21 07:44:34 2023
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 17:28:53 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirslick@fast.net>
    wrote:


    So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
    "virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?

    Chickenshit is TERRIFIED of this simple honest question. He knows
    that Bugliosi was a moron if he truly thought this... yet you can't
    get Chickenshit to publicly acknowledge that Bugliosi said this.

    It's a simple "Yes" or "No" question, and Chickenshit cannot cite
    where he has EVER answered it.

    So it's going to keep getting asked until Chickenshit answers it.

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