On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:18:42 -0800 (PST), David Von Pein
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davevonpein@aol.com> wrote:
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This post is being written to provide some additional laughs at the
expense of conspiracy kook James DiEugenio. I felt compelled to write
this article after hearing some more of DiEugenio's absurd comments on
the Black Op Radio program of February 11, 2010 [linked above].
Can you name the logical fallacies you used above?
Where's Huckster when you need him?
As incredible as it seems, DiEugenio actually said this:
"I'm not even sure they [the real killers of JFK, not Lee Harvey
Oswald, naturally] were on the sixth floor [of the Book Depository]. I
mean, they might have been. But what's the definitive evidence that
the hit team was on the sixth floor? .... If they WERE on the sixth
floor, they could have been at the other [west] end. .... And I've
always suspected there was a sniper in the Dal-Tex Building." -- James >DiEugenio
Allow me to repeat these words again...
Rather than do that, why don't you just cite the evidence you believe
places the assassin(s) there?
Wouldn't that be more conducive to debate?
So, once again, a conspiracy theorist (DiEugenio) has decided to turn
white into black and day into night and reality into fantasy by
TOTALLY IGNORING THE EVIDENCE IN THE JFK CASE.
Looks to me like you're projecting again. The list of evidence that
you've refused to explain, and simply run away from is quite
extensive.
DiEugenio has decided to completely ignore the mountain of physical
evidence and eyewitness testimony that exists in this case that
conclusively PROVES beyond any and all doubt that President Kennedy's >assassin was shooting from the SIXTH FLOOR of the Texas School Book >Depository on November 22, 1963.
Actually, no.
And DiEugenio, without a speck of evidence or proof of any kind, has
decided to place a gunman in a building other than the Book Depository
-- the Dal-Tex Building.
Amusingly, you've not cited any of this mountain of evidence...
So in a battle of cites, you're 0-0.
DiEugenio undoubtedly knows (or he should know) that he has dug a very
large hole for himself by attempting to remove the gunman from the
sixth floor of the TSBD. Because by attempting to do that, DiEugenio
has no choice but to call several witnesses liars (or boobs), and he
has to pretend that all of the physical evidence that was found on the
sixth floor is tainted or planted evidence (e.g., Oswald's rifle, the
three bullet shells found in the Sniper's Nest, and the paper bag with >Oswald's prints on it).
You have no choice but to call **ALL** witnesses mistaken or liars.
That puts DiEugenio ahead of you.
And, according to DiEugenio, the witnesses who were all wrong (or were
liars)
I predict you'll refuse to cite for this claim of yours...
when it came to seeing a rifle protruding from the southeast
corner window on the SIXTH FLOOR of the Depository at the exact time
when President Kennedy was being murdered by rifle bullets include the >following people -- Howard Brennan, Mal Couch, Amos Euins, Robert
Jackson, and James Worrell.*
Interestingly, the very witnesses you cite aren't nearly as definitive
as you seem to think they are.
* = Worrell's Warren Commission testimony isn't quite as definitive as
the other witnesses regarding the precise floor where the rifle was
located, but that's understandable considering where Worrell was
standing when he saw the rifle sticking out of an upper-story window.
But Worrell did narrow it down to the fifth or sixth floor:
"I am not too sure, but I told the FBI it [the rifle] was either
in the fifth or the sixth floor on the far corner, on the east side."
-- James R. Worrell, Jr.; 1964 WC Testimony
So, it couldn't be any more obvious that SOMEBODY was firing a rifle
out of a sixth-floor window of the TSBD during the assassination.
You've listed 5 witnesses. How many witnesses documented in print in
the first 48 hours pointed to the Grassy Knoll?
You lose.
But, somehow, Jim DiEugenio seems to have some doubts about whether ANYBODY >AT ALL was really shooting from that floor!
Jim, you're unbelievable.
You've called Jim "unbelievable" on the basis of *FOUR* witnesses.
And run from DOZENS of corroborating medically trained eyewitnesses to
the location of the large head wound.
You have **NOTHING** to talk about.
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Here's another gem from Jim (which forces DiEugenio to ignore more
witness statements and testimony):
Coming from someone who can't name a **SINGLE** witness he believes
completely in their contemporary statements & testimony, this is a
laugh!!!
"There's two elevators in that building [the TSBD]...and that
could have been one way that they [JFK's real killers, not Oswald,
naturally, per DiEugenio] did get away." -- James DiEugenio
Indeed true. But there's testimony supporting that one of them simply
walked down the stairs.
The above comment by Jim D. forces him to call both Roy Truly and
Officer Marrion Baker liars,
No, this is *YOU* calling them liars... Jim didn't.
because both of those men testified that
the two freight elevators (which are the "two elevators" that
DiEugenio had to be referring to in the above quote) were stuck on an
upper floor of the building (probably the fifth floor) when they
attempted to use those elevators within approximately one minute of
the shots being fired in Dealey Plaza.
It's that funny! Just one minute after the shooting!
As the assassin was seen for 15 seconds of that one minute... that
gives him 45 seconds to go down four floors...
Or perhaps DiEugenio wants to theorize that the "real killers" (none
of which Jim thinks was Lee H. Oswald, of course) were somehow able to
escape via the freight elevators down to the first floor, with both of
those elevators then returning to the upper floors of the building
(and getting stuck there)....all within ONE MINUTE of the
assassination.
Nah... this is *YOUR* wacky scenario. Don't try to pin it on someone
else.
I guess it must be satisfying to be a conspiracy theorist like James >DiEugenio--you can simply MAKE UP all kinds of unprovable garbage,
Such as a disassembled rifle in a paper sack?
such as placing unseen gunmen in various buildings around Dealey Plaza
and moving the KNOWN GUNMAN from the east side of the Depository's
sixth floor to any other location you'd care to choose.
You forgot the known shooter at the GK location... don't forget that.
And after twisting and distorting the evidence so that it can't be
recognized anymore, the best part is --- YOU'LL GET PATTED ON THE BACK
BY YOUR FELLOW CONSPIRACY KOOKS FOR DOING IT!
Nice hobby, huh?
Actually, it's only kooks on your side of the aisle who've said what
fun they have playing with the death of a President...
In reality, of course, it's thoroughly despicable and outrageous
behavior.
I agree. You should stop it.
But try to tell that to a conspiracy theorist who thrives on
imaginative tales and baseless suspicions. Try to tell that to Jim
DiEugenio. What you'll likely get in return is a goofy giggle and
another round of the kooky game known as "Let's Pretend Oswald Was
Innocent".
More likely a <snicker> from Chickenshit.
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