The LN Trolls in this newsgroup post no evidence.
No citations
No documents
No testimony
No exhibits
No witness videos
They do no research of their own, preferring to take the lazy way out
and fall back on the conclusions of the Warren Commission Report.
You can gain NO KNOWLEDGE from their posts.
What they DO post are comments, speculation, opinion and ( when that
doesn't work ) insults.
against those crazy "conspiracy theorists".
They argue that because a conspiracy can't be proven, then none
existed.
Does that mean that if a murder is unsolved, the victim was never
murdered ? You'll have to ask them, that's their thought process.
They have little or no knowledge of police procedures, like the proper
way to conduct a lineup, the proper way to handle evidence, the proper
way to interrogate a prisoner and the proper way to protect a
prosecution case by protecting a suspect's Constitutional rights.
And yet they'll argue and insult someone knowledgeable of such things.
They have little or no knowledge of the 26 volumes of testimony and
exhibits that they so religiously support. Most of them haven't even
read them.
They have little or no knowledge of how "southern justice" worked in
the 1960s. How innocent black men never made it to trial and how
all-white grand juries refused to indict guilty white men ( like
Medgar Evers' murderer Byron DeLa Beckwith ).
They have little or no knowledge of the history of the Kennedy Administration, the powerful enemies he made with his personal
behavior and his political policies.
They have little or no knowledge of the atmosphere in the city of
Dallas at the time of the assassination.
not to go to Dallas or "they" would kill him there begs the question,
"how did all of these people know Lee Harvey Oswald was going to kill
the President" ?
But not having knowledge is not enough. Even when shown evidence
indicating that Oswald was innocent, they ignore it.
They ignore evidence that Oswald was seen on the first floor so soon
after the shooting, that he couldn't have possibly come from the sixth floor..
https://gil-jesus.com/oswald-on-the-first-floor/
They ignore evidence that the paper "gunsack" was made by the Dallas
Police on the afternoon of the assassination. https://gil-jesus.com/the-bag-job/
They ignore the evidence that the fillers in the police lineups were
chosen in such a way as to make Oswald the only choice a witness could
make.
https://gil-jesus.com/the-police-lineups/
They ignore the evidence that the scope on the rifle was so defective
that it was impossible to hit anything you aimed at. https://gil-jesus.com/the-rifle-tests/
They ignore the evidence that Dr. Humes LIED about the location of the
back wound.
https://gil-jesus.com/the-back-wound/
They ignore the evidence that no human being, Oswald or anyone else,
could have completely fled the Walker shooting in the TWO SECONDS the
FBI said it took for Walter Kirk Coleman to reach the fence. https://gil-jesus.com/the-witness/
They ignore the evidence that the FBI lied in its reports. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODXoISgU-0M
They ignore evidence that the Tippit witnesses were unreliable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-7ud5FWiR0
They ignore evidence that the limo agents LIED about how they
responded when the shooting started. https://gil-jesus.com/the-agents-in-the-limo/
They ignore evidence that witnesses were intimidated by the FBI. https://gil-jesus.com/the-framing-and-murder-of-lee-harvey-oswald/
All of this evidence of prosecutorial misconduct and unethical police procedures is ignored and accepted as proper by those who don't know
any better.
But this is not what happens in a proper and professional police investigation. This is what happens when you are collecting evidence
against one suspect and one suspect only.
In short, this is how you frame an innocent person.
In short, the Lone Nut trolls in this newsgroup are not here to debate evidence because they don't know the evidence. They're not here to
learn the truth because they've been systematicly brainwashed by a government with a history of lying to its people.
And speaking of things they don't know about, they don't even know
they've been brainwashed. They come in here time and time again and
their lack of knowledge of the evidence only leads them to embarrass themselves.
You'll gain no knowledge from their posts.
Stay away from a foolish man; you will gain no knowledge from his
speech. ( Proverbs 14:7 )
Post courtesy of Gil Jesus.
On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 10:49:36?AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
The LN Trolls in this newsgroup post no evidence.
No citations
No documents
No testimony
No exhibits
No witness videos
They do no research of their own, preferring to take the lazy way out
and fall back on the conclusions of the Warren Commission Report.
You can gain NO KNOWLEDGE from their posts.
What they DO post are comments, speculation, opinion and ( when that
doesn't work ) insults. They see themselves as guardians of the truth
against those crazy "conspiracy theorists".
They argue that because a conspiracy can't be proven, then none
existed.
Does that mean that if a murder is unsolved, the victim was never
murdered ? You'll have to ask them, that's their thought process.
They have little or no knowledge of police procedures, like the proper
way to conduct a lineup, the proper way to handle evidence, the proper
way to interrogate a prisoner and the proper way to protect a
prosecution case by protecting a suspect's Constitutional rights.
And yet they'll argue and insult someone knowledgeable of such things.
They have little or no knowledge of the 26 volumes of testimony and
exhibits that they so religiously support. Most of them haven't even
read them.
They have little or no knowledge of how "southern justice" worked in
the 1960s. How innocent black men never made it to trial and how
all-white grand juries refused to indict guilty white men ( like
Medgar Evers' murderer Byron DeLa Beckwith ).
They have little or no knowledge of the history of the Kennedy
Administration, the powerful enemies he made with his personal
behavior and his political policies.
They have little or no knowledge of the atmosphere in the city of
Dallas at the time of the assassination. That the President was warned
not to go to Dallas or "they" would kill him there begs the question,
"how did all of these people know Lee Harvey Oswald was going to kill
the President" ?
But not having knowledge is not enough. Even when shown evidence
indicating that Oswald was innocent, they ignore it.
They ignore evidence that Oswald was seen on the first floor so soon
after the shooting, that he couldn't have possibly come from the sixth
floor..
https://gil-jesus.com/oswald-on-the-first-floor/
They ignore evidence that the paper "gunsack" was made by the Dallas
Police on the afternoon of the assassination.
https://gil-jesus.com/the-bag-job/
They ignore the evidence that the fillers in the police lineups were
chosen in such a way as to make Oswald the only choice a witness could
make.
https://gil-jesus.com/the-police-lineups/
They ignore the evidence that the scope on the rifle was so defective
that it was impossible to hit anything you aimed at.
https://gil-jesus.com/the-rifle-tests/
They ignore the evidence that Dr. Humes LIED about the location of the
back wound.
https://gil-jesus.com/the-back-wound/
They ignore the evidence that no human being, Oswald or anyone else,
could have completely fled the Walker shooting in the TWO SECONDS the
FBI said it took for Walter Kirk Coleman to reach the fence.
https://gil-jesus.com/the-witness/
They ignore the evidence that the FBI lied in its reports.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODXoISgU-0M
They ignore evidence that the Tippit witnesses were unreliable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-7ud5FWiR0
They ignore evidence that the limo agents LIED about how they
responded when the shooting started.
https://gil-jesus.com/the-agents-in-the-limo/
They ignore evidence that witnesses were intimidated by the FBI.
https://gil-jesus.com/the-framing-and-murder-of-lee-harvey-oswald/
All of this evidence of prosecutorial misconduct and unethical police
procedures is ignored and accepted as proper by those who don't know
any better.
But this is not what happens in a proper and professional police
investigation. This is what happens when you are collecting evidence
against one suspect and one suspect only.
In short, this is how you frame an innocent person.
In short, the Lone Nut trolls in this newsgroup are not here to debate
evidence because they don't know the evidence. They're not here to
learn the truth because they've been systematicly brainwashed by a
government with a history of lying to its people.
And speaking of things they don't know about, they don't even know
they've been brainwashed. They come in here time and time again and
their lack of knowledge of the evidence only leads them to embarrass
themselves.
You'll gain no knowledge from their posts.
Stay away from a foolish man; you will gain no knowledge from his
speech. ( Proverbs 14:7 )
Post courtesy of Gil Jesus.
On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 9:49:36?AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
The LN Trolls in this newsgroup post no evidence.
No citations
No documents
No testimony
No exhibits
No witness videos
They do no research of their own, preferring to take the lazy way out
and fall back on the conclusions of the Warren Commission Report.
If one is satisfied that the WC got all of the basics correct, why
does someone need to reinvestigate the whole thing?
You can gain NO KNOWLEDGE from their posts.
Gil meant to write that he personally gains no knowledge from the posts his critics write.
What they DO post are comments, speculation, opinion and ( when that
doesn't work ) insults.
Welcome to the uncensored, unfiltered Google Groups discussion board
called alt.conspiracy.jfk, where anyone can post comments, insults,
opinions, off-topic items, and yes, links to whatever they fancy.
They see themselves as guardians of the truth
against those crazy "conspiracy theorists".
Or we enjoy kicking over your assassination Tinker Toy sets. A
cruel hobby perhaps, but it does provide me with laughs a-plenty.
They argue that because a conspiracy can't be proven, then none
existed.
Wrong.
We argue that you're shifting the burden
If you and Gil were researchers, and not simply investigooglers
parading buff hobby-points for others to answer (answers which are
never to your standards),
you'd provide an alternate case that has less holes in it than the
case you are criticizing.
You'd INVITE critics to review your work.
You'd be men enough to accept where there are errors in your own work
and work to CORRECT your own mistakes or DROP certain things you
believe about the assassination and MOVE ON to more productive
avenues.
You'd be working on NARROWING DOWN the possible suspect(s) list and
things that occurred.
You don't do this. You are both afflicted with CONSPIRACISM, a sort
of social malady.
Does that mean that if a murder is unsolved, the victim was never
murdered ? You'll have to ask them, that's their thought process.
You guys are the lousiest thinkers on the planet. I quickly googled
the percentage of murders that are unsolved in the US right now, and
it's nearly fifty percent, an all-time high:
https://www.npr.org/2023/04/29/1172775448/people-murder-unsolved-killings-record-high
Literally NO ONE believes that if a murder is unsolved that it didn't occur.
They have little or no knowledge of police procedures, like the proper
way to conduct a lineup, the proper way to handle evidence, the proper
way to interrogate a prisoner and the proper way to protect a
prosecution case by protecting a suspect's Constitutional rights.
And yet they'll argue and insult someone knowledgeable of such things.
Gil is more knowledgeable about these things ...
They have little or no knowledge of the 26 volumes of testimony and
exhibits that they so religiously support. Most of them haven't even
read them.
Why is reading ALL of the "twenty-six volumes" a required chore ...
They have little or no knowledge of how "southern justice" worked in
the 1960s. How innocent black men never made it to trial and how
all-white grand juries refused to indict guilty white men ( like
Medgar Evers' murderer Byron DeLa Beckwith ).
They have little or no knowledge of the history of the Kennedy
Administration, the powerful enemies he made with his personal
behavior and his political policies.
They have little or no knowledge of the atmosphere in the city of
Dallas at the time of the assassination.
That the President was warned
not to go to Dallas or "they" would kill him there begs the question,
"how did all of these people know Lee Harvey Oswald was going to kill
the President" ?
Gil actually does beg the question when he asks how these people
"knew" Oswald was going to shoot JFK. They didn't know. See here:
But not having knowledge is not enough. Even when shown evidence
indicating that Oswald was innocent, they ignore it.
For the millionth time, Oswald is HISTORICALLY guilty.
They ignore evidence that Oswald was seen on the first floor so soon
after the shooting, that he couldn't have possibly come from the sixth
floor..
https://gil-jesus.com/oswald-on-the-first-floor/
Explained a million times...
They ignore evidence that the paper "gunsack" was made by the Dallas
Police on the afternoon of the assassination.
https://gil-jesus.com/the-bag-job/
They ignore the evidence that the fillers in the police lineups were
chosen in such a way as to make Oswald the only choice a witness could
make.
https://gil-jesus.com/the-police-lineups/
They ignore the evidence that the scope on the rifle was so defective
that it was impossible to hit anything you aimed at.
https://gil-jesus.com/the-rifle-tests/
They ignore the evidence that Dr. Humes LIED about the location of the
back wound.
https://gil-jesus.com/the-back-wound/
They ignore the evidence that no human being, Oswald or anyone else,
could have completely fled the Walker shooting in the TWO SECONDS the
FBI said it took for Walter Kirk Coleman to reach the fence.
https://gil-jesus.com/the-witness/
They ignore the evidence that the FBI lied in its reports.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODXoISgU-0M
They ignore evidence that the Tippit witnesses were unreliable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-7ud5FWiR0
They ignore evidence that the limo agents LIED about how they
responded when the shooting started.
https://gil-jesus.com/the-agents-in-the-limo/
They ignore evidence that witnesses were intimidated by the FBI.
https://gil-jesus.com/the-framing-and-murder-of-lee-harvey-oswald/
All of this evidence of prosecutorial misconduct and unethical police
procedures is ignored and accepted as proper by those who don't know
any better.
But this is not what happens in a proper and professional police
investigation. This is what happens when you are collecting evidence
against one suspect and one suspect only.
In short, this is how you frame an innocent person.
Then why did the DPD, FBI, WC and HSCA all conclude Oswald fired all
of the shots that injured or killed people that day? Everyone was in
on it?
In short, the Lone Nut trolls in this newsgroup are not here to debate
evidence because they don't know the evidence. They're not here to
learn the truth because they've been systematicly brainwashed by a
government with a history of lying to its people.
Shifting the burden.
Please provide an alternative explanation for the crimes committed
that day so your critics can examine your work.
And speaking of things they don't know about, they don't even know
they've been brainwashed. They come in here time and time again and
their lack of knowledge of the evidence only leads them to embarrass
themselves.
You'll gain no knowledge from their posts.
Stay away from a foolish man; you will gain no knowledge from his
speech. ( Proverbs 14:7 )
Post courtesy of Gil Jesus.
The LN Trolls in this newsgroup post no evidence.
No citations
No documents
No testimony
No exhibits
No witness videos
They do no research of their own, preferring to take the lazy way out
and fall back on the conclusions of the Warren Commission Report.
You can gain NO KNOWLEDGE from their posts.
What they DO post are comments, speculation, opinion and ( when that
doesn't work ) insults. They see themselves as guardians of the truth against those crazy "conspiracy theorists".
They argue that because a conspiracy can't be proven, then none
existed.
Does that mean that if a murder is unsolved, the victim was never
murdered ? You'll have to ask them, that's their thought process.
They have little or no knowledge of police procedures, like the proper
way to conduct a lineup, the proper way to handle evidence, the proper
way to interrogate a prisoner and the proper way to protect a
prosecution case by protecting a suspect's Constitutional rights.
And yet they'll argue and insult someone knowledgeable of such things.
They have little or no knowledge of the 26 volumes of testimony and
exhibits that they so religiously support. Most of them haven't even
read them.
They have little or no knowledge of how "southern justice" worked in
the 1960s. How innocent black men never made it to trial and how
all-white grand juries refused to indict guilty white men ( like
Medgar Evers' murderer Byron DeLa Beckwith ).
They have little or no knowledge of the history of the Kennedy Administration, the powerful enemies he made with his personal
behavior and his political policies.
They have little or no knowledge of the atmosphere in the city of
Dallas at the time of the assassination. That the President was warned
not to go to Dallas or "they" would kill him there begs the question,
"how did all of these people know Lee Harvey Oswald was going to kill
the President" ?
But not having knowledge is not enough. Even when shown evidence
indicating that Oswald was innocent, they ignore it.
They ignore evidence that Oswald was seen on the first floor so soon
after the shooting, that he couldn't have possibly come from the sixth floor..
https://gil-jesus.com/oswald-on-the-first-floor/
They ignore evidence that the paper "gunsack" was made by the Dallas
Police on the afternoon of the assassination. https://gil-jesus.com/the-bag-job/
They ignore the evidence that the fillers in the police lineups were
chosen in such a way as to make Oswald the only choice a witness could
make.
https://gil-jesus.com/the-police-lineups/
They ignore the evidence that the scope on the rifle was so defective
that it was impossible to hit anything you aimed at. https://gil-jesus.com/the-rifle-tests/
They ignore the evidence that Dr. Humes LIED about the location of the
back wound.
https://gil-jesus.com/the-back-wound/
They ignore the evidence that no human being, Oswald or anyone else,
could have completely fled the Walker shooting in the TWO SECONDS the
FBI said it took for Walter Kirk Coleman to reach the fence. https://gil-jesus.com/the-witness/
They ignore the evidence that the FBI lied in its reports. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODXoISgU-0M
They ignore evidence that the Tippit witnesses were unreliable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-7ud5FWiR0
They ignore evidence that the limo agents LIED about how they
responded when the shooting started. https://gil-jesus.com/the-agents-in-the-limo/
They ignore evidence that witnesses were intimidated by the FBI. https://gil-jesus.com/the-framing-and-murder-of-lee-harvey-oswald/
All of this evidence of prosecutorial misconduct and unethical police procedures is ignored and accepted as proper by those who don't know
any better.
But this is not what happens in a proper and professional police investigation. This is what happens when you are collecting evidence
against one suspect and one suspect only.
In short, this is how you frame an innocent person.
In short, the Lone Nut trolls in this newsgroup are not here to debate evidence because they don't know the evidence. They're not here to
learn the truth because they've been systematicly brainwashed by a government with a history of lying to its people.
And speaking of things they don't know about, they don't even know
they've been brainwashed. They come in here time and time again and
their lack of knowledge of the evidence only leads them to embarrass themselves.
You'll gain no knowledge from their posts.
Stay away from a foolish man; you will gain no knowledge from his
speech. ( Proverbs 14:7 )
Post courtesy of Gil Jesus.
LURKERS:
The LN Trolls
in this newsgroup post no evidence.
No citations
No documents
No testimony
No exhibits
No witness videos
They do no research of their own, preferring to take the lazy way out and fall back on the conclusions of the Warren Commission Report.
You can gain NO KNOWLEDGE from their posts.
What they DO post are comments, speculation, opinion and ( when that doesn't work ) insults. They see themselves as guardians of the truth against those crazy "conspiracy theorists".
They argue that because a conspiracy can't be proven, then none existed.
Does that mean that if a murder is unsolved, the victim was never murdered ? You'll have to ask them, that's their thought process.
They have little or no knowledge of police procedures, like the proper way to conduct a lineup, the proper way to handle evidence, the proper way to interrogate a prisoner and the proper way to protect a prosecution case by protecting a suspect'sConstitutional rights.
And yet they'll argue and insult someone knowledgeable of such things.
They have little or no knowledge of the 26 volumes of testimony and exhibits that they so religiously support. Most of them haven't even read them.
They have little or no knowledge of how "southern justice" worked in the 1960s. How innocent black men never made it to trial and how all-white grand juries refused to indict guilty white men ( like Medgar Evers' murderer Byron DeLa Beckwith ).
They have little or no knowledge of the history of the Kennedy Administration, the powerful enemies he made with his personal behavior and his political policies.
They have little or no knowledge of the atmosphere in the city of Dallas at the time of the assassination. That the President was warned not to go to Dallas or "they" would kill him there begs the question, "how did all of these people know Lee HarveyOswald was going to kill the President" ?
But not having knowledge is not enough. Even when shown evidence indicating that Oswald was innocent, they ignore it.
They ignore evidence that Oswald was seen on the first floor so soon after the shooting, that he couldn't have possibly come from the sixth floor..
https://gil-jesus.com/oswald-on-the-first-floor/
They ignore evidence that the paper "gunsack" was made by the Dallas Police on the afternoon of the assassination.
https://gil-jesus.com/the-bag-job/
They ignore the evidence that the fillers in the police lineups were chosen in such a way as to make Oswald the only choice a witness could make.
https://gil-jesus.com/the-police-lineups/
They ignore the evidence that the scope on the rifle was so defective that it was impossible to hit anything you aimed at.
https://gil-jesus.com/the-rifle-tests/
They ignore the evidence that Dr. Humes LIED about the location of the back wound.
https://gil-jesus.com/the-back-wound/
They ignore the evidence that no human being, Oswald or anyone else, could have completely fled the Walker shooting in the TWO SECONDS the FBI said it took for Walter Kirk Coleman to reach the fence.
https://gil-jesus.com/the-witness/
They ignore the evidence that the FBI lied in its reports. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODXoISgU-0M
They ignore evidence that the Tippit witnesses were unreliable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-7ud5FWiR0
They ignore evidence that the limo agents LIED about how they responded when the shooting started.
https://gil-jesus.com/the-agents-in-the-limo/
They ignore evidence that witnesses were intimidated by the FBI. https://gil-jesus.com/the-framing-and-murder-of-lee-harvey-oswald/
All of this evidence of prosecutorial misconduct and unethical police procedures is ignored and accepted as proper by those who don't know any better.
But this is not what happens in a proper and professional police investigation. This is what happens when you are collecting evidence against one suspect and one suspect only.
In short, this is how you frame an innocent person.
In short, the Lone Nut trolls in this newsgroup are not here to debate evidence because they don't know the evidence. They're not here to learn the truth because they've been systematicly brainwashed by a government with a history of lying to itspeople.
And speaking of things they don't know about, they don't even know they've been brainwashed.
They come in here time and time again and their lack of knowledge of the evidence only leads them to embarrass themselves.
You'll gain no knowledge from their posts.
Stay away from a foolish man; you will gain no knowledge from his speech. ( Proverbs 14:7 )
If one is satisfied that the WC got all of the basics correct, why does someone need to reinvestigate the whole thing?
Response courtesy of Hank Sienzant (from APRIL of this year). True to form, Gil ignored the rebuttal information provided. You repost Gil’s claims without acknowledging the prior rebuttals here. This action has a name: A Fringe Reset.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/t3hixT00i3A/m/Xe2myXk5AQAJ
On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 12:51:26 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
If one is satisfied that the WC got all of the basics correct, why does someone need to reinvestigate the whole thing?For that matter, if you are satisfied that the WC got it right, why are you wasting your life here ?
As I've said before, I do this for amusement only. Why are you wasting your life here?
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 5:43:02 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
As I've said before, I do this for amusement only. Why are you wasting your life here?So in other words you admit you're an asshole who is only here to give the world shit.
On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 1:33:48 PM UTC-4, Hank Sienzant wrote:
Response courtesy of Hank Sienzant (from APRIL of this year). True to form, Gil ignored the rebuttal information provided. You repost Gil’s claims without acknowledging the prior rebuttals here. This action has a name: A Fringe Reset.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/t3hixT00i3A/m/Xe2myXk5AQAJI didn't ignore it, I didn't see it. There's a differenence.
Most of your "responses" are comments. You never refuted any of the evidence posted on my website.
You did, however, "regurgitate" the Warren Report's conclusions.
With regard toi the 26 volumes, you claim, "I’ve read them twice. From the evidence, I reached my own conclusions."
I don't believe you really read the 26 volumes twice, because if you did, you'd know there were conflicts between the testimony and the Report.
And if you were honest, you would have acknowledged those.
No, you didn't read the 26 volumes twice, you read the REPORT twice and "reached my own conclusions" based on what the REPORT said.
And I know that because when I point those conflicts out, you completely ignore what the testimony said and take the side of the Report.
It's pretty obvious to me which one you read twice.
There's more than enough evidence to doubt Oswald's guilt.
There's more than enough evidence that authorities harassed and threatened witnesses and tampered with the physical evidence.
All of this to convict a guilty man ?
And the bevelling evidence indicates that the President was shot from the front as well as from the rear.
https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/BE7_HI1_21-1.jpg
And you know what that means. ( there's that "C" word again )
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 5:00:18?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 12:51:26?PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote: >>> If one is satisfied that the WC got all of the basics correct, why does someone need to reinvestigate the whole thing?
For that matter, if you are satisfied that the WC got it right, why are you wasting your life here ?
As I've said before, I do this for amusement only. Why are you wasting your life here?
On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 1:33:48?PM UTC-4, Hank Sienzant wrote:
Response courtesy of Hank Sienzant (from APRIL of this year). True to form, Gil ignored the rebuttal information provided. You repost Gils claims without acknowledging the prior rebuttals here. This action has a name: A Fringe Reset.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/t3hixT00i3A/m/Xe2myXk5AQAJ
I didn't ignore it, I didn't see it. There's a differenence.
Most of your "responses" are comments. You never refuted any of the evidence posted on my website.
You did, however, "regurgitate" the Warren Report's conclusions.
With regard toi the 26 volumes, you claim, "Ive read them twice. From the evidence, I reached my own conclusions."
I don't believe you really read the 26 volumes twice, because if you did, you'd know there were conflicts between the testimony and the Report.
And if you were honest, you would have acknowledged those.
No, you didn't read the 26 volumes twice, you read the REPORT twice and "reached my own conclusions" based on what the REPORT said.
And I know that because when I point those conflicts out, you completely ignore what the testimony said and take the side of the Report.
It's pretty obvious to me which one you read twice.
There's more than enough evidence to doubt Oswald's guilt.
There's more than enough evidence that authorities harassed and threatened witnesses and tampered with the physical evidence.
All of this to convict a guilty man ?
And the bevelling evidence indicates that the President was shot from the front as well as from the rear.
https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/BE7_HI1_21-1.jpg
And you know what that means. ( there's that "C" word again )
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 5:36:20?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 1:33:48?PM UTC-4, Hank Sienzant wrote:
Response courtesy of Hank Sienzant (from APRIL of this year). True to form, Gil ignored the rebuttal information provided. You repost Gils claims without acknowledging the prior rebuttals here. This action has a name: A Fringe Reset.Most of your "responses" are comments. You never refuted any of the evidence posted on my website.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/t3hixT00i3A/m/Xe2myXk5AQAJ >> I didn't ignore it, I didn't see it. There's a differenence.
You did, however, "regurgitate" the Warren Report's conclusions.
With regard toi the 26 volumes, you claim, "Ive read them twice. From the evidence, I reached my own conclusions."
I don't believe you really read the 26 volumes twice, because if you did, you'd know there were conflicts between the testimony and the Report.
That's to be expected. Witnesses don't remember everything accurately. If one witness said there
were two shots and another said there were three shots and another said the were four shots,
should the WC conclude they were all correct?
And if you were honest, you would have acknowledged those.
I don't know of any LN who hasn't recognized the conflicts between testimony and conclusions.
We recognize that witnesses are fallible and what they testify to isn't always how it happened.
No, you didn't read the 26 volumes twice, you read the REPORT twice and "reached my own conclusions" based on what the REPORT said.
The report came to the correct conclusion
based on the body of evidence which is well known because the WC
put everything they gathered into the 26 volumes with the notable
exception of the autopsy photos and x-rays.
I believe they should have concluded those
but the decision not to wasn't done for sinister purposes.
The materials were stored and available to the HSCA
to review and their panel reached the same conclusions as the original autopsy team, that JFK
was struck by two bullets, both fired from above and behind him.
And I know that because when I point those conflicts out, you completely ignore what the testimony said and take the side of the Report.
Concluding a witness was wrong is not the same as ignoring his testimony.
It's pretty obvious to me which one you read twice.
Based on some of the things you have claimed, it pretty obvious to me you haven't read the
report even once. You seem oblivious to some of its conclusions.
There's more than enough evidence to doubt Oswald's guilt.
Yet when challenged to present it, you balk.
There's more than enough evidence that authorities harassed and threatened witnesses and tampered with the physical evidence.
If you are desperate to conclude that.
All of this to convict a guilty man ?
No one was convicted. Had Oswald lived, he would have easily been convicted based on the
evidence.
And the bevelling evidence indicates that the President was shot from the front as well as from the rear.
https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/BE7_HI1_21-1.jpg
This is a perfect example of you offering arguments in lieu of testimony. Your interpretation of
the medical evidence is not evidence. It is your FUBAR figuring. Testimony under oath by
qualified experts is evidence. Every qualified medical examiner who has seen the medical
evidence has concluded it shows JFK was struck twice by shots fired from above and behind.
Even conspiracy hero Dr. Cyril Wecht agrees with that finding. He bases his belief on a frontal
shot not on any medical evidence but his interpretation of what he sees in the Z-film.
As a photo and film analyst, he has no more qualifications than you or me.
And you know what that means. ( there's that "C" word again )
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 5:36:20?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 1:33:48?PM UTC-4, Hank Sienzant wrote:
Response courtesy of Hank Sienzant (from APRIL of this year). True to form, Gil ignored the rebuttal information provided. You repost Gils claims without acknowledging the prior rebuttals here. This action has a name: A Fringe Reset.Most of your "responses" are comments. You never refuted any of the evidence posted on my website.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/t3hixT00i3A/m/Xe2myXk5AQAJ >> I didn't ignore it, I didn't see it. There's a differenence.
You did, however, "regurgitate" the Warren Report's conclusions.
With regard toi the 26 volumes, you claim, "Ive read them twice. From the evidence, I reached my own conclusions."
I don't believe you really read the 26 volumes twice, because if you did, you'd know there were conflicts between the testimony and the Report.
That's to be expected. Witnesses don't remember everything accurately. If one witness said there
were two shots and another said there were three shots and another said the were four shots,
should the WC conclude they were all correct?
And if you were honest, you would have acknowledged those.
I don't know of any LN who hasn't recognized the conflicts between testimony and conclusions.
We recognize that witnesses are fallible and what they testify to isn't always how it happened.
No, you didn't read the 26 volumes twice, you read the REPORT twice and "reached my own conclusions" based on what the REPORT said.
The report came to the correct conclusion
based on the body of evidence which is well known because the WC
put everything they gathered into the 26 volumes with the notable
exception of the autopsy photos and x-rays.
I believe they should have concluded those
but the decision not to wasn't done for sinister purposes.
The materials were stored and available to the HSCA
to review and their panel reached the same conclusions as the original autopsy team, that JFK
was struck by two bullets, both fired from above and behind him.
And I know that because when I point those conflicts out, you completely ignore what the testimony said and take the side of the Report.
Concluding a witness was wrong is not the same as ignoring his testimony.
It's pretty obvious to me which one you read twice.
Based on some of the things you have claimed, it pretty obvious to me you haven't read the
report even once. You seem oblivious to some of its conclusions.
There's more than enough evidence to doubt Oswald's guilt.
Yet when challenged to present it, you balk.
There's more than enough evidence that authorities harassed and threatened witnesses and tampered with the physical evidence.
If you are desperate to conclude that.
All of this to convict a guilty man ?
No one was convicted. Had Oswald lived, he would have easily been convicted based on the
evidence.
And the bevelling evidence indicates that the President was shot from the front as well as from the rear.
https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/BE7_HI1_21-1.jpg
This is a perfect example of you offering arguments in lieu of testimony. Your interpretation of
the medical evidence is not evidence. It is your FUBAR figuring. Testimony under oath by
qualified experts is evidence. Every qualified medical examiner who has seen the medical
evidence has concluded it shows JFK was struck twice by shots fired from above and behind.
Even conspiracy hero Dr. Cyril Wecht agrees with that finding. He bases his belief on a frontal
shot not on any medical evidence but his interpretation of what he sees in the Z-film.
As a photo and film analyst, he has no more qualifications than you or me.
And you know what that means. ( there's that "C" word again )
On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 12:51:26 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
If one is satisfied that the WC got all of the basics correct, why does someone need to reinvestigate the whole thing?
For that matter, if you are satisfied that the WC got it right, why are you wasting your life here ?
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 4:00:18?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 12:51:26?PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote: >>> If one is satisfied that the WC got all of the basics correct, why does someone need to reinvestigate the whole thing?
For that matter, if you are satisfied that the WC got it right, why are you wasting your life here ?
Because it's fun.
On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 12:36:10 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler <chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 4:00:18?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 12:51:26?PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote: >>> If one is satisfied that the WC got all of the basics correct, why does someone need to reinvestigate the whole thing?
For that matter, if you are satisfied that the WC got it right, why are you wasting your life here ?
Because it's fun.
Playing games with the death of a President.
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:03:38?PM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 12:36:10 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
<chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 4:00:18?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 12:51:26?PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote: >>>>> If one is satisfied that the WC got all of the basics correct, why does someone need to reinvestigate the whole thing?
For that matter, if you are satisfied that the WC got it right, why are you wasting your life here ?
Because it's fun.
Playing games with the death of a President.
Irony alert.
On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 13:49:01 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler <chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:03:38?PM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 12:36:10 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
<chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 4:00:18?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 12:51:26?PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
If one is satisfied that the WC got all of the basics correct, why does someone need to reinvestigate the whole thing?
For that matter, if you are satisfied that the WC got it right, why are you wasting your life here ?
Because it's fun.
Playing games with the death of a President.
Irony alert.
Only believers have described it as "fun" to play games with the death
of a President...
no critic ever has.
So in addition to playing games with the death of a President, you're
also proving your dishonesty.
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 5:55:20 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 5:43:02 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:I'll drink to that. One asshole to another. I'm giving the world shit and you're shoveling shit.
As I've said before, I do this for amusement only. Why are you wasting your life here?So in other words you admit you're an asshole who is only here to give the world shit.
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:05:02?AM UTC-7, John Corbett wrote:
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 5:55:20?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 5:43:02?AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:I'll drink to that. One asshole to another. I'm giving the world shit and you're shoveling shit.
As I've said before, I do this for amusement only. Why are you wasting your life here?So in other words you admit you're an asshole who is only here to give the world shit.
sit you pissant...
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 4:03:58?PM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 13:49:01 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
<chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:03:38?PM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 12:36:10 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
<chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 4:00:18?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 12:51:26?PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
If one is satisfied that the WC got all of the basics correct, why does someone need to reinvestigate the whole thing?
For that matter, if you are satisfied that the WC got it right, why are you wasting your life here ?
Because it's fun.
Playing games with the death of a President.
Irony alert.
Only believers have described it as "fun" to play games with the death
of a President...
Only Ben wouldn't be able to correctly interpret what I wrote.
no critic ever has.
So in addition to playing games with the death of a President, you're
also proving your dishonesty.
Or laughing at you.
Because it's fun.
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