• Vincent Bugliosi's SBT - #5 - Refuted

    From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 14 08:27:17 2023
    Bugliosi provides his arguments for the Single Bullet Theory: (With my responses...)

    "5. Finally, there's another reason, almost too embarrassingly simple
    to mention, why, independent of all the conclusive reasons set forth
    above, we can almost be certain that the shot that hit Kennedy also
    hit Connally: *no separate bullet was available to hit Connally* ..."

    Considering that one bullet that was fired that day (as even Bugliosi
    will admit) WAS NEVER RECOVERED AT ALL, Bugliosi seems rather silly at
    this point. We know, from the record, that at least one bullet was
    never found, yet, on *that* basis, Bugliosi should be arguing that
    there were only two shots fired... Yet he won't make such a silly
    statement.

    Yet he expects people to follow his fifth "reason", despite the facts.

    Again, we see omission, since you'll search in vain to find anything
    of substance that Chaney related concerning the assassination. We
    *know* that James Chaney was the closest non-limo eyewitness to the
    shooting, and we *know* that he even had a better viewpoint than
    Jackie - who was sitting on the *OTHER* side. What did James Chaney
    say? Unfortunately, the Warren Commission didn't bother to interview
    the closest police eyewitness to the crime, but we do have secondary
    evidence to what Chaney saw:

    Mr. BELIN - What other officers did you talk to and what did they say
    that you remember?
    Mr. BAKER - I talked to Jim Chaney, and he made the statement that the
    two shots hit Kennedy first and then the other one hit the Governor.

    But you won't find this in Bugliosi's book - it contradicts the theory
    he's attempting to defend. Were Bugliosi attempting to actually be
    honest and thorough, he certainly should have dealt with this problem.

    But remember (especially Toddy and Mark - who chastised me for this
    prediction) that I predicted that Bugliosi tome would omit evidence
    and misrepresent evidence.

    I turned out to be right... didn't I?

    On what basis can Bugliosi argue that there's no bullet available to
    strike Conally - WHEN HE CANNOT PRODUCE THE BULLETS HE ARGUES *WERE*
    FIRED?

    And on what basis can Bugliosi defend not telling his readers about
    James Chaney?

    Bugliosi has failed with #5

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Mon Aug 14 10:42:51 2023
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 11:27:20 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    Bugliosi provides his arguments for the Single Bullet Theory: (With my responses...)

    "5. Finally, there's another reason, almost too embarrassingly simple
    to mention, why, independent of all the conclusive reasons set forth above, we can almost be certain that the shot that hit Kennedy also
    hit Connally: *no separate bullet was available to hit Connally* ..."

    Is this all of number five, oh deceitful one?

    Considering that one bullet that was fired that day (as even Bugliosi
    will admit) WAS NEVER RECOVERED AT ALL, Bugliosi seems rather silly at
    this point. We know, from the record, that at least one bullet was
    never found, yet, on *that* basis, Bugliosi should be arguing that
    there were only two shots fired... Yet he won't make such a silly
    statement.

    Yet he expects people to follow his fifth "reason", despite the facts.

    Again, we see omission, since you'll search in vain to find anything
    of substance that Chaney related concerning the assassination. We
    *know* that James Chaney was the closest non-limo eyewitness to the shooting, and we *know* that he even had a better viewpoint than
    Jackie - who was sitting on the *OTHER* side. What did James Chaney
    say? Unfortunately, the Warren Commission didn't bother to interview
    the closest police eyewitness to the crime, but we do have secondary evidence to what Chaney saw:

    Mr. BELIN - What other officers did you talk to and what did they say
    that you remember?
    Mr. BAKER - I talked to Jim Chaney, and he made the statement that the
    two shots hit Kennedy first and then the other one hit the Governor.

    The z-film (along with a bunch of testimony) destroys the idea that Connally was hit after Kennedy was struck in the head.

    But you won't find this in Bugliosi's book - it contradicts the theory
    he's attempting to defend. Were Bugliosi attempting to actually be
    honest and thorough, he certainly should have dealt with this problem.

    What problem? *If* Chaney said this he was clearly wrong.

    But remember (especially Toddy and Mark - who chastised me for this prediction) that I predicted that Bugliosi tome would omit evidence
    and misrepresent evidence.

    I turned out to be right... didn't I?

    On what basis can Bugliosi argue that there's no bullet available to
    strike Conally - WHEN HE CANNOT PRODUCE THE BULLETS HE ARGUES *WERE*
    FIRED?

    And on what basis can Bugliosi defend not telling his readers about
    James Chaney?

    About how the shots originated from behind him?

    Bugliosi has failed with #5

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 14 10:54:58 2023
    On Mon, 14 Aug 2023 10:42:51 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirslick@fast.net>
    wrote:


    So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
    "virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?

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