On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 11:23:28 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
Von Penis just HATES the fact that there are knowledgeable critics who can rip apart Bugliosi's lies so easily. And he can't defend Bugs... so he just runs away like the coward he is.
The reason(s) most people decide not to engage Ben Holmes in discussion after a period of time is because, (#1) I'm sure they get tired of being called a "liar" every time Ben posts something. I have a pretty thick skin, so it doesn't bother me as much
as some other people I guess, but it certainly isn't a very good debating technique to call your opponent a blatant and despicable "LIAR" every time you turn around. (Not to mention the fact that Ben is just simply DEAD WRONG when he calls most LNers "
liars" a dozen times a day. Let's face it, Ben's just nuts in this regard. Because I'm not a liar and neither is Bud and neither is John McAdams and neither was the late Vincent T. Bugliosi.)
And (#2), the people who "debate" Ben no doubt just get sick and tired of him constantly misrepresenting the true facts and the various circumstances surrounding the deaths of JFK and J.D. Tippit.
A recent example of Ben's misrepresenting the true facts can be found in the quote below, which is just not a true statement:
"But owning a pistol that wasn't used to shoot JFK and could not be ballistically matched by the FBI for the Tippit murder is just as credible evidence against Oswald as the thousands of other people in Dallas that day who owned a pistol." -- B. Holmes
Ben knows, of course, that Oswald's revolver WAS "ballistically matched" to the Tippit murder -- via the BULLET SHELLS. But he'll pretend (I guess) that the bullet SHELLS just DON'T COUNT as "ballistics" type evidence....or he'll pretend those 4 shells
were planted or "switched" by the DPD or the FBI (or by somebody).
But, in fact, ALL FOUR of those shells found at the Tippit murder scene were MATCHED to Oswald's .38 revolver "to the exclusion of all other weapons" [see WCR, p.171].
So, as we can see from just my one example, people who choose to talk about the JFK case with Ben Holmes over a period of time are no doubt going to get fed up with having to constantly correct him on the basic facts of the case. Because, like most rabid
conspiracy clowns who prowl the Internet year after year, Ben Holmes has made it quite clear that he will never change his tune about anything related to the evidence in the JFK case.
He has to know, of course, that he's dead wrong about many things associated with Lee Harvey Oswald and the evidence in the case, but since he's made it his life's work to try and exonerate a double-murderer, Ben will never be able to bring himself to
admit that he has ever been wrong about anything.
Eventually, the type of "Exonerate Oswald At All Costs" attitude that CTers like Ben seem to possess will grow mighty tiresome to a reasonable opponent who knows Ben is FOS. Hence, the opponent decides to abandon the debate. But it certainly isn't
because they are "running away" from the evidence, as Ben seems to want to believe. It's because they just get fed up with being fed B.S. day after day.
-- DVP; Feb. 2017
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