On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 3:32:18 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
If Truly told Shelley to watch the elevators then they would have included that in Truly & Baker's testimonies...The idiots who are discussing this are not emphasizing the catch-22 of Oswald not being on the stairs if Adams arrived on the 1st Floor intime to see Lovelady & Shelley...She didn't and her and Styles' word is good enough, along with the missing stenographer's tape, to assume Adams got out before Lovelady & Shelley...It takes too long to cover the distance around the west side of the
It is obvious that Truly told Shelley to watch the elevator after Truly returned from the upstairs with Baker...The reason why Shelley was in the back in order to be told to watch the elevator is because he had just led Harvey from the front, where hewas stopped by a cop, to the rear where Harvey exited and therefore Shelley was in the back of the Depository when Truly returned back downstairs...
I can't post this on the Education Forum because of one ignorant asshole named James Gordon who has made it his personal mission to censor me from the JFK internet...Why Gordon has the power to personally destroy researchers at his own word is beyondme or who gave him that power...But, right now, the correct solution to Prayer Man is being directly kept off the Education Forum and a perfect clusterfuck of wrong evidence is being protected by Gordon...DiEugenio stays dishonestly silent because he
Posted on the Ed Farm, and he obviously is right. Fuck this Barry Ernest turd!
Adams was made to feel like an idiot for what she'd said about Lovelady and Shelley. So it's not exactly a surprise that she would much much later say she never said it. But she said it more than once, and Lovelady and Shelley both confirmed that she'dseen them, albeit indirectly.
It should also be noted that the transcript to her testimony is in the archives, along with her hand-written notations. There was no attempt on her part to remove the testimony regarding seeing Lovelady and Shelley, quite obviously because she stood byher testimony.
As far as the stenographer tapes...they were alll destroyed beck in 1964.would also have been changed. Well, their testimony suggests they did see her, but weren't sure where they saw her.
FWIW, it's clear to me that if there was a deliberate attempt to change the record and make it look like Adams said something that could be used to suggest she didn't come down the stairs when she said she did, that Lovelady and Shelley's testimony
As stated, you can tell what was going on by the questions never asked. Neither Lovelady nor Shelley were asked if they'd seen Baker and Truly approach the stairs. This was one of the most important questions they could have been asked. Baker said hesaw two unidentified men standing at the back of the building. Shelley said Truly told him to guard the elevator. So why was no attempt made to figure out the identity of these men? Or just when Truly told Shelley to watch the elevator.
I think we know. The fix was in. Ball/Belin decided to pin it on the Oswald, and to do what they needed to make out that some of Oswald's co-workers were idiots. Adams wasn't alone. Piper and Dougherty were also set up.
Edited 1 hour ago by Pat Speer
On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 3:32:18 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
Posted on the Ed Farm, and he obviously is right. Fuck this Barry Ernest turd!
d seen them, albeit indirectly.Adams was made to feel like an idiot for what she'd said about Lovelady and Shelley. So it's not exactly a surprise that she would much much later say she never said it. But she said it more than once, and Lovelady and Shelley both confirmed that she'
by her testimony.It should also be noted that the transcript to her testimony is in the archives, along with her hand-written notations. There was no attempt on her part to remove the testimony regarding seeing Lovelady and Shelley, quite obviously because she stood
would also have been changed. Well, their testimony suggests they did see her, but weren't sure where they saw her.As far as the stenographer tapes...they were alll destroyed beck in 1964.
FWIW, it's clear to me that if there was a deliberate attempt to change the record and make it look like Adams said something that could be used to suggest she didn't come down the stairs when she said she did, that Lovelady and Shelley's testimony
saw two unidentified men standing at the back of the building. Shelley said Truly told him to guard the elevator. So why was no attempt made to figure out the identity of these men? Or just when Truly told Shelley to watch the elevator.As stated, you can tell what was going on by the questions never asked. Neither Lovelady nor Shelley were asked if they'd seen Baker and Truly approach the stairs. This was one of the most important questions they could have been asked. Baker said he
I think we know. The fix was in. Ball/Belin decided to pin it on the Oswald, and to do what they needed to make out that some of Oswald's co-workers were idiots. Adams wasn't alone. Piper and Dougherty were also set up.To judge by his latest comment, Speer's moment of lucidity has now passed. But it was nice while it lasted!
Edited 1 hour ago by Pat Speer
On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 12:14:00 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 3:32:18 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 7:44:45 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 12:14:00 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:Speer is either an idiot who is bind to good research or a government operative...
On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 3:32:18 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
He is on the Education Forum writing overly long posts that try to assert Adams & Styles saw Lovelady & Shelley on the 1st Floor...
It never dawns on Pat's dull brow that they got to Shelley and Lovelady, and Shelley was CIA, and therefore their testimonies are lies designed to scuttle Adams & Styles witnessing...
Both Speer and Stancak totally miss the fact that the main reason Lovelady & Shelley's testimonies were corrupted is because Shelley rescued Harvey at the Front Door and led him out the back...That is the main reason why there was never any timelinedeveloped for Lovelady & Shelley's trip around the west side of the Depository...
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