On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 11:53:30 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
Another reason why James Gordon should be sued is because Pete Mellor is openly posting for banned member Bart Kamp and is doing so in order to promote provably wrong evidence...was ever mentioned on the board...He did that out of pure personal spite...Jim D chimed-in that "It was the right thing to do" and approved of Gordon's abuse of his moderator power to conduct personal grudges and deny good evidence...Jim avoided asking
James Gordon ignored my correct Prayer Man evidence and made up special rules specifically taylored against me that there would be no posting for banned members...Gordon made that rule up as he went along in order to make sure neither me or my research
The JFK research community are also ball-less motherfuckers because they are not responding to Mellor's post about Kamp's book...They are doing that because the cowardly motherfuckers know I have refuted the Prayer Man theory and the idiot punk Kamp isstill promoting it anyway in order to save face...So those assholes have no problem with an innocent skilled researcher being destroyed by a stupid British bastard...They'll sell their souls for the clique and posting space...
On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 9:16:00 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
Since you're the only person who cares, you'll have to be the one to sue.
On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 9:31:50 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 9:16:00 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
FUCK OF DOPEHEAD
THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED MANY TIMES
On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 7:04:50 AM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:
On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 10:53:53 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 10:08:49 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 10:53:53 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:Odisio Wrote:
" Garner had told Stroud that she had remained on the 4th floor and was still there when Truly and a cop came up. <snip>
Stroud's letter about what Garner told her was very important information. Oswald didn't come down those steps as the WR said he did, and the second floor encounter with Truly and the cop was most likely fabricated. "
Here is Odisio citing Truly & Baker coming up in synch with the Lunch Room Encounter, yet in his next paragraph saying the Lunch Room Encounter was fabricated...
This is what the Prayer Man people call research...
On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 8:46:36 PM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
" Why, O Shitty Researcher, couldn't Oswald have come down just before, or just after Adams? I'm not saying he did. But the Warren Commission has no reason to alter Adams' testimony because it wouldn't prove anything anyway. "
On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:10:32 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 8:46:36 PM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
" Why, O Shitty Researcher, couldn't Oswald have come down just before, or just after Adams? I'm not saying he did. But the Warren Commission has no reason to alter Adams' testimony because it wouldn't prove anything anyway. "Because, oh stupid one, Oswald had to run across the whole 6th Floor to the NW stairs and down 2 flights before he would get to the spot Adams started the stairs on...These are unchange-able mathematic factors...
It would be great to have a high tech graphic of Oswald's and Adams' flights in unison...You would see that Oswald would have allegedly left a few seconds earlier but he would have had to traverse a greater distance, therefore Oswald. at best, wouldhave started down the NW 6th Floor staircase at the same time Adams started down the NW stairs on the 4th Floor...Don't forget Oswald had to allegedly wipe and plant the gun before descending...This scenario makes me realize that it wasn't Adams who didn'
" But seeing Shelley and Lovelady, that proves something. That's what the WC conspired to discredit, her sighting of Shelley and Lovelady, you shitty researcher. "Calvery & Reed's dash to the front steps, as seen in Darnell, and juxtapose it with Adams & Styles, the girls were down to the 1st Floor in 37 to 41 seconds and out the door before either Truly & Baker or Lovelady & Shelley were there...The latter did
We both know you are trolling so there is no reason to take your scenario seriously...Adams & Styles bolted seconds after the shots according to Mrs Garner...Mrs Garner said that when she turned to look at the girls they were already gone...If we use
JEAN DAVISON SAID:the 2nd. So where were Adams and Styles during that time, according to Adams? Already outside the building!
I have a question for anyone who accepts Vickie Adams' time line and believes that she came downstairs before Truly & Baker had reached the freight elevator on the 1st floor.
If she's right, how does her story prove that Oswald didn't come down those stairs?
In the WC version, Baker spotted Oswald just after each man had reached the second floor landing. That means that while Truly & Baker were rushing up from the 1st floor to the second, Oswald would've presumably been hurrying from about the 3rd floor to
Can someone explain how her time line prevents Oswald from using those stairs?
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:Oswald Did It" conclusion.
It doesn't prevent Oswald from using those same stairs. And that is something I have also pointed out in my posts in the past:
"I'll say this regarding Vickie Adams' timeline....The more I think about this subject, the more I realize that even if Adams DID descend those stairs as quickly as she said she did, that particular scenario really does no harm whatsoever to the "
Why?
Because...then Adams and Styles very likely BEAT Lee Harvey Oswald to the stairs. Hence, it's likely that Adams & Styles were always AHEAD of Oswald on their descent down the stairs.
And if Adams & Styles were really THAT fast at getting to the first floor, then they could have possibly beaten Baker & Truly too, with B&T only getting on the stairs after A&S had vacated the stairwell." -- DVP; February 17, 2011
COLIN CROW SAID:
Did Adams and Styles descend before or after Baker and Truly ascended?
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:BEHIND Adams/Styles.
Conspiracy theorists are defeated either way.
If Adams and Styles descended BEFORE Baker and Truly started up the stairs, then there's absolutely no reason why Lee Oswald couldn't have used those same stairs without being seen or heard by the two women. Oswald would have simply been a little
And if Adams/Styles descended AFTER Baker/Truly started up, then the girls were on the stairs AFTER all three men (Baker, Truly, and Oswald) had already used those same stairs.yet not be seen by Vickie Adams and Sandra Styles.
Why is this so complicated for so many CTers? Regardless of which way the timing falls, there's no reason under the sun to conclude that Oswald couldn't have utilized those very same stairs in the northwest corner of the Book Depository Building and
The conspiracy theorists who try and use "timeline" estimates provided by witnesses to positively prove that Oswald couldn't have shot President Kennedy are relying on very flimsy "proof". Especially in light of all of that OTHER stuff that Oswald leftbehind on the sixth floor that indicates Oswald was, indeed, up there shooting at the President with a Carcano rifle.
Also....
Can any CTer explain how the alleged "real assassin" (or assassins, plural)--i.e., an alleged killer OTHER than Lee Oswald--managed to get downstairs without anyone on ANY Depository floor noticing him/them?
CTers never want to face that question of "HOW DID THE REAL ASSASSINS ELUDE DETECTION?"
As long as Lee Harvey Oswald can somehow be exonerated via the flimsy "timeline" analysis, most CTers are happy. And to hell with the question I just asked above.
More: https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/17359-new-book-on-victoria-adams-by-author-barry-ernest/#comment-219588
On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:38:10 PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:to the 2nd. So where were Adams and Styles during that time, according to Adams? Already outside the building!
JEAN DAVISON SAID:
I have a question for anyone who accepts Vickie Adams' time line and believes that she came downstairs before Truly & Baker had reached the freight elevator on the 1st floor.
If she's right, how does her story prove that Oswald didn't come down those stairs?
In the WC version, Baker spotted Oswald just after each man had reached the second floor landing. That means that while Truly & Baker were rushing up from the 1st floor to the second, Oswald would've presumably been hurrying from about the 3rd floor
Can someone explain how her time line prevents Oswald from using those stairs?
Oswald Did It" conclusion.DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
It doesn't prevent Oswald from using those same stairs. And that is something I have also pointed out in my posts in the past:
"I'll say this regarding Vickie Adams' timeline....The more I think about this subject, the more I realize that even if Adams DID descend those stairs as quickly as she said she did, that particular scenario really does no harm whatsoever to the "
Why?
Because...then Adams and Styles very likely BEAT Lee Harvey Oswald to the stairs. Hence, it's likely that Adams & Styles were always AHEAD of Oswald on their descent down the stairs.
And if Adams & Styles were really THAT fast at getting to the first floor, then they could have possibly beaten Baker & Truly too, with B&T only getting on the stairs after A&S had vacated the stairwell." -- DVP; February 17, 2011
COLIN CROW SAID:
Did Adams and Styles descend before or after Baker and Truly ascended?
BEHIND Adams/Styles.DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Conspiracy theorists are defeated either way.
If Adams and Styles descended BEFORE Baker and Truly started up the stairs, then there's absolutely no reason why Lee Oswald couldn't have used those same stairs without being seen or heard by the two women. Oswald would have simply been a little
yet not be seen by Vickie Adams and Sandra Styles.And if Adams/Styles descended AFTER Baker/Truly started up, then the girls were on the stairs AFTER all three men (Baker, Truly, and Oswald) had already used those same stairs.
Why is this so complicated for so many CTers? Regardless of which way the timing falls, there's no reason under the sun to conclude that Oswald couldn't have utilized those very same stairs in the northwest corner of the Book Depository Building and
left behind on the sixth floor that indicates Oswald was, indeed, up there shooting at the President with a Carcano rifle.The conspiracy theorists who try and use "timeline" estimates provided by witnesses to positively prove that Oswald couldn't have shot President Kennedy are relying on very flimsy "proof". Especially in light of all of that OTHER stuff that Oswald
Also....
Can any CTer explain how the alleged "real assassin" (or assassins, plural)--i.e., an alleged killer OTHER than Lee Oswald--managed to get downstairs without anyone on ANY Depository floor noticing him/them?
CTers never want to face that question of "HOW DID THE REAL ASSASSINS ELUDE DETECTION?"
As long as Lee Harvey Oswald can somehow be exonerated via the flimsy "timeline" analysis, most CTers are happy. And to hell with the question I just asked above.
More: https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/17359-new-book-on-victoria-adams-by-author-barry-ernest/#comment-219588Correct. So, the WC had no reason to insert the Shelley-Lovelady sighting into Vickie Adams' testimony. She really did see them inside the building on the first floor when she came down the stairs.
On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:38:10 PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:to the 2nd. So where were Adams and Styles during that time, according to Adams? Already outside the building!
JEAN DAVISON SAID:
I have a question for anyone who accepts Vickie Adams' time line and believes that she came downstairs before Truly & Baker had reached the freight elevator on the 1st floor.
If she's right, how does her story prove that Oswald didn't come down those stairs?
In the WC version, Baker spotted Oswald just after each man had reached the second floor landing. That means that while Truly & Baker were rushing up from the 1st floor to the second, Oswald would've presumably been hurrying from about the 3rd floor
Can someone explain how her time line prevents Oswald from using those stairs?
Oswald Did It" conclusion.DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
It doesn't prevent Oswald from using those same stairs. And that is something I have also pointed out in my posts in the past:
"I'll say this regarding Vickie Adams' timeline....The more I think about this subject, the more I realize that even if Adams DID descend those stairs as quickly as she said she did, that particular scenario really does no harm whatsoever to the "
Why?
Because...then Adams and Styles very likely BEAT Lee Harvey Oswald to the stairs. Hence, it's likely that Adams & Styles were always AHEAD of Oswald on their descent down the stairs.
And if Adams & Styles were really THAT fast at getting to the first floor, then they could have possibly beaten Baker & Truly too, with B&T only getting on the stairs after A&S had vacated the stairwell." -- DVP; February 17, 2011
COLIN CROW SAID:
Did Adams and Styles descend before or after Baker and Truly ascended?
BEHIND Adams/Styles.DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Conspiracy theorists are defeated either way.
If Adams and Styles descended BEFORE Baker and Truly started up the stairs, then there's absolutely no reason why Lee Oswald couldn't have used those same stairs without being seen or heard by the two women. Oswald would have simply been a little
yet not be seen by Vickie Adams and Sandra Styles.And if Adams/Styles descended AFTER Baker/Truly started up, then the girls were on the stairs AFTER all three men (Baker, Truly, and Oswald) had already used those same stairs.
Why is this so complicated for so many CTers? Regardless of which way the timing falls, there's no reason under the sun to conclude that Oswald couldn't have utilized those very same stairs in the northwest corner of the Book Depository Building and
left behind on the sixth floor that indicates Oswald was, indeed, up there shooting at the President with a Carcano rifle.The conspiracy theorists who try and use "timeline" estimates provided by witnesses to positively prove that Oswald couldn't have shot President Kennedy are relying on very flimsy "proof". Especially in light of all of that OTHER stuff that Oswald
Also....
Can any CTer explain how the alleged "real assassin" (or assassins, plural)--i.e., an alleged killer OTHER than Lee Oswald--managed to get downstairs without anyone on ANY Depository floor noticing him/them?
CTers never want to face that question of "HOW DID THE REAL ASSASSINS ELUDE DETECTION?"
As long as Lee Harvey Oswald can somehow be exonerated via the flimsy "timeline" analysis, most CTers are happy. And to hell with the question I just asked above.
More: https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/17359-new-book-on-victoria-adams-by-author-barry-ernest/#comment-219588Trying to establish exact times for any of the events immediately following the assassination
is an exercise is folly, because nobody was running a stopwatch of marking the time of their
movements. Why would they? As for Adams, she didn't run into Baker and Truly coming up the
stairs (or Oswald coming down) so we can conclude one of three things:
1: She came down the stairs ahead of Oswald and got to the ground floor before Baker and
Truly started up.
2. She came down the stairs behind Oswald and after Baker and Truly went above the floor
she started from
3. She came down the stairs behind Oswald and passed the second floor landing at the time
Baker and Truly were confronting Oswald.
#1 seems unlikely to me. #2 is the most probable. #3 is plausible.
JEAN DAVISON SAID:the 2nd. So where were Adams and Styles during that time, according to Adams? Already outside the building!
I have a question for anyone who accepts Vickie Adams' time line and believes that she came downstairs before Truly & Baker had reached the freight elevator on the 1st floor.
If she's right, how does her story prove that Oswald didn't come down those stairs?
In the WC version, Baker spotted Oswald just after each man had reached the second floor landing. That means that while Truly & Baker were rushing up from the 1st floor to the second, Oswald would've presumably been hurrying from about the 3rd floor to
Can someone explain how her time line prevents Oswald from using those stairs?
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:Oswald Did It" conclusion.
It doesn't prevent Oswald from using those same stairs. And that is something I have also pointed out in my posts in the past:
"I'll say this regarding Vickie Adams' timeline....The more I think about this subject, the more I realize that even if Adams DID descend those stairs as quickly as she said she did, that particular scenario really does no harm whatsoever to the "
Why?
Because...then Adams and Styles very likely BEAT Lee Harvey Oswald to the stairs. Hence, it's likely that Adams & Styles were always AHEAD of Oswald on their descent down the stairs.
And if Adams & Styles were really THAT fast at getting to the first floor, then they could have possibly beaten Baker & Truly too, with B&T only getting on the stairs after A&S had vacated the stairwell." -- DVP; February 17, 2011
COLIN CROW SAID:
Did Adams and Styles descend before or after Baker and Truly ascended?
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:BEHIND Adams/Styles.
Conspiracy theorists are defeated either way.
If Adams and Styles descended BEFORE Baker and Truly started up the stairs, then there's absolutely no reason why Lee Oswald couldn't have used those same stairs without being seen or heard by the two women. Oswald would have simply been a little
And if Adams/Styles descended AFTER Baker/Truly started up, then the girls were on the stairs AFTER all three men (Baker, Truly, and Oswald) had already used those same stairs.yet not be seen by Vickie Adams and Sandra Styles.
Why is this so complicated for so many CTers? Regardless of which way the timing falls, there's no reason under the sun to conclude that Oswald couldn't have utilized those very same stairs in the northwest corner of the Book Depository Building and
The conspiracy theorists who try and use "timeline" estimates provided by witnesses to positively prove that Oswald couldn't have shot President Kennedy are relying on very flimsy "proof". Especially in light of all of that OTHER stuff that Oswald leftbehind on the sixth floor that indicates Oswald was, indeed, up there shooting at the President with a Carcano rifle.
Also....
Can any CTer explain how the alleged "real assassin" (or assassins, plural)--i.e., an alleged killer OTHER than Lee Oswald--managed to get downstairs without anyone on ANY Depository floor noticing him/them?
CTers never want to face that question of "HOW DID THE REAL ASSASSINS ELUDE DETECTION?"
As long as Lee Harvey Oswald can somehow be exonerated via the flimsy "timeline" analysis, most CTers are happy. And to hell with the question I just asked above.
More: https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/17359-new-book-on-victoria-adams-by-author-barry-ernest/#comment-219588
JEAN DAVISON SAID:
I have a question for anyone who accepts Vickie Adams' time line and believes that she came downstairs before Truly & Baker had reached the freight elevator on the 1st floor.
If she's right, how does her story prove that Oswald didn't come down those stairs?
Victoria Adams and Sandra Styles:
http://jfk-archives.blogsp
On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 10:45:23 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:10:32 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:04:46 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:& Baker, and Lovelady & Shelley...A high tech animation that showed all of them and their paths in unison would make this more clear...You are failing to register that the fact the girls slid out ahead of Truly & Baker forces an early departure from the
On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 10:45:23 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:I realize I am answering and giving oxygen to a troll however, Oswald could not be ahead of the girls because science doesn't allow it...Your trolling response fails to recognize there are strict time parameters to the paths of the girls, Oswald, Truly
On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:10:32 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
Oswald was never ahead of or behind the girls because he was in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room the whole time...are taking their denial of the Encounter seriously and trying to adapt the conspiracy story to it...Those idiotic and reckless researchers are doing serious harm to credible JFK Assassination research...Roger Odisio is trying to parlay his social media
Mrs Garner witnessed Truly & Baker emerge on the 4th Floor landing in synch with the Lunch Room Encounter being real...
The claim that the Lunch Room Encounter never happened is the product of the fevered mind of one sick individual named Greg Parker along with his adult juvenile delinquent partner Bart Kamp...There are Conspiracy researchers who should know better who
On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:36:55 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:04:46 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 10:45:23 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:51:04 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:36:55 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:Baker said he thought it was shorter...
On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:04:46 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 10:45:23 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
Meanwhile Lovelady said he thought he saw Truly & Baker hesitating at the base of the stairs...
You are not responding to what I am writing...We can figure Truly & Baker's time from the rest of the evidence like Garner, Williams, Mrs Reid, and the events in the Lobby that all trace back to the timing for the Encounter...
You haven't answered the point that for Adams & Styles to get out just ahead of Truly & Baker requires a certain time for Truly & Baker's entry...
On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:51:04 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:36:55 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:Baker said he thought it was shorter...
On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:04:46 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 10:45:23 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
Meanwhile Lovelady said he thought he saw Truly & Baker hesitating at the base of the stairs...
You are not responding to what I am writing...We can figure Truly & Baker's time from the rest of the evidence like Garner, Williams, Mrs Reid, and the events in the Lobby that all trace back to the timing for the Encounter...
You haven't answered the point that for Adams & Styles to get out just ahead of Truly & Baker requires a certain time for Truly & Baker's entry...
On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 9:04:03 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:51:04 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
Mr. BAKER - ...We simulated the shots and by the time we got there, we did everything that I did that day, and this would be the minimum, because I am sure that I, you know, it took me a little longer.
On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 10:04:41 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 9:04:03 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:51:04 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
Mr. BAKER - ...We simulated the shots and by the time we got there, we did everything that I did that day, and this would be the minimum, because I am sure that I, you know, it took me a little longer.Baker did say that he thought he went faster than what they recorded in the time trials...
All you are doing is failing to register that later Baker was playing ball withy the Conspiracy and pushing the time back in order to allow Oswald time to get down from the 6th Floor...
On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 10:04:41 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 11:15:49 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:people who dare call themselves credible...
On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 10:04:41 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
1) Baker did say he thought he went faster than the time trials...
2) His later statement that he went slower was just Baker working with the conspirators to allow Oswald time to get down from the 6th Floor...
3) I have discovered some of the most important evidence in Conspiracy history in Sarah Stanton's unacknowledged witnessing of Oswald hiding out on the 2nd Floor staircase landing and I am being persecuted for it and my discovery is being ignored by
4) Adams & Styles got out just ahead of Truly & Baker...Truly & Baker got out just ahead of Lovelady & Shelley...Shelley cleared Harvey in the Lobby and helped him out the rear...
5) Sky Throne is an Alt.Conspiracy.JFK troll...
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 8:58:33 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
When did Baker say he went faster, Fuckface? Give us the source, World's Shittiest Researcher.
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 11:26:22 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 8:58:33 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
When did Baker say he went faster, Fuckface? Give us the source, World's Shittiest Researcher.The dirty fucks who call themselves researchers don't help you when they know your references are accurate...Cheap-rate researchers make it personal when you out-argue them...
It's out there and verifiable...Baker said the re-enactment was slowed by pacing and recreating each scene slowly and that he thought he actually ran in faster in real time...
When I find the quote Sky Throne will troll it and then ignore what it proves...
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 1:48:10 AM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:
There are researchers who are well aware of the source of Baker saying he went in to the Depository quicker than what they recorded in the time trials...Those researchers are dishonest scum and not gentleman researchers...They will hold back thatinformation in order to screw me up...They'll leave me to be chewed apart by trolls like Robert...Baker said it...I've read the quotes posted by those researchers...God forbid we ever use the Education Forum for what it was intended or it ever prove me
Hey Robert - since you have your head so far up Kamp's ass why don't ask him since he'll probably hear you because your head is in his ass...
You were rightly banned by Amazon,
I BET YOU CANNOT REFUTE ONE ARGUMENT IN KAMP'S BOOK WITH PROPER EVIDENCE.
I BET YOU CANNOT REFUTE ONE ARGUMENT IN KAMP'S BOOK WITH PROPER EVIDENCE. QUIT YAPPING DOYLE
SHOW US!!!
COWARD, NOT UP TO CHALLENGE LITTLE BOY?
JUST GO HOME LITTLE BOY AND TAKE YOUR BALL WITH YOU!!!
LEMME REPHRASE; I BET YOU CANNOT REFUTE ONE ARGUMENT IN KAMP'S BOOK WITH PROPER EVIDENCE.
QUIT YAPPING DOYLE
SHOW US!!!
Already shown years ago, it is just that a small cocked denier cunt by the name Brian Doyle just refuses to acknowledge that and instead prefers to lie and live life in denial.
On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 3:15:12 PM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 8:39:26 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 3:15:12 PM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:My review in moderator cue at Barnes & Noble:
Stubborn Promotion Of An Already-Debunked Theorycalled "Prayer Man" because his hands were up in front of him in a praying posture in the NBC newsreel films in which he was seen. This claim generated a lot of discussion on Kennedy Assassination websites that led to heated debate. In 2016 photo expert
The author Bart Kamp has a website entitled "Prayer Man" where he tries to show that a shadowy figure in the Texas School Book Depository front entrance during the assassination was Lee Harvey Oswald and therefore exonerated him. That figure was being
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 4:00:22 AM UTC+10, Brian Doyle wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 8:39:26 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 11:03:29 PM UTC-4, Greg Parker wrote:lawyered-up I would have a pretty good lawsuit...
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 4:00:22 AM UTC+10, Brian Doyle wrote:Barnes & Noble posted my review but then it was removed...Almost certainly at the hands of Bart and his friends who, like what they did on Amazon and the Education Forum, organized false complaints that a gullible moderator took seriously...If I ever
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 8:39:26 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
So much for your lie that ROKC doesn't use censorship on the Prayer Man issue...
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 7:01:09 AM UTC+10, Brian Doyle wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 11:03:29 PM UTC-4, Greg Parker wrote:
Brian, what is your evidence that Bart or anyone else in particular had anything to do with it? Maybe your name or IP is on a banned list that is shared among online book stores?
I mean, your review is wrong. Ridiculous. Facile. Lame. Dumb. But there are no rules against any of that, as far as I know. Complaints on those grounds should have gotten nowhere.
Lawyer-up, my man!
On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 11:18:06 AM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:beneath making up a random choice for Stanton in order to keep Stanton from being Prayer Man...The serious research community lets Kamp get away with that...When I posted to Kamp that people on the east side of the steps could see the limousine at the
I have never seen anyone quote Kamp's obvious lie that Stanton was on the east side of the steps...No serious researcher ever cites that and credits Kamp for it because they know it is bullshit and they also know Kamp is a scummy lowlife who is not
Kamp is a sick pup and delinquent punk so you probably are Kamp...
Oh yes and Stanton stood east not west.
Been proven and shown many times over yet you keep denying that info but only to keep that hope of Prayer Beatch alive...sad really.
On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 5:27:57 AM UTC-4, Bart Kamp wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 10:00:41 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
"When I posted to Kamp that people on the east side of the steps could see the limousine at the time of the shots
Rubbish you never stated before, nor do you have any source for it!
, and that Stanton made clear she could not see the limousine at the time of the shots
please cite the source for that
, Kamp refused to respond..."
yet here I am referring to a blatant lie from you.
Something that happens all too often at MacRae's as well.
Over&Out!
On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 7:31:17 PM UTC+10, Bart Kamp wrote:
On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 9:43:26 PM UTC-4, Greg Parker wrote:a book upholding a theory he refuses to back in public but still tries to sell anyway...
On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 7:31:17 PM UTC+10, Bart Kamp wrote:Kamp has posted a new interview with Malcom Blunt on ROKC...
In a full hour interview Mr Kamp never once mentions his "Prayer Man" claim to fame...Ladies and gentlemen, Mr Kamp does not believe in his own theory because if he did he would mention it...Yet Kamp is still allowed to corrupt JFK research by writing
On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 9:48:21 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 9:43:26 PM UTC-4, Greg Parker wrote:
He certainly did mention his book, you fucking idiot. But Bart and Malcolm did not discuss Prayer Man. They probably want to remain friends. Nobody has that problem with you.
On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 10:08:59 AM UTC-4, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:
On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 9:48:21 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 9:43:26 PM UTC-4, Greg Parker wrote:
He certainly did mention his book, you fucking idiot. But Bart and Malcolm did not discuss Prayer Man. They probably want to remain friends. Nobody has that problem with you.I watched the whole interview...
Kamp never mentioned Prayer Man because, psychologically, he doesn't believe in it...
You can't tell me that an alleged discovery that would solve the assassination is something that anyone who truly believed it wouldn't mention...
I never said Kamp didn't mention his book...I said he never mentioned Prayer Man...A good psychologist would tell you what Bart is telegraphing there...
The JFK research community is fatally corrupted by gangs of assholes who just choose the people they like over rigor...
Also, Blunt never credited Kamp with Prayer Man...
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