Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the street that
they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at 1:12, "On
the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before Hill's, he
saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In fact,
as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding of
the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer
connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't really
matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the street that

they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at 1:12, "On
the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before Hill's, he

saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In fact, as
he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding of the
shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer
connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't really
matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the street that

they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at 1:12, "On
the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before Hill's, he

saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In fact, as
he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding of the
shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer
connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't really
matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

You're still an idiot, Don.

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the street that

they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at 1:12, "On
the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before Hill's, he

saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In fact, as
he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding of the
shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer
connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't really
matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/9f/2b/e0/9f2be0cb4046c3f4d82a79b44192b43b.jpg

A newsman on the ground reported over the air at the time...

"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book
Depository building."

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 5:13:59 AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the street that

they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at 1:12, "On
the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before Hill's, he

saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In fact, as
he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding of the
shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer
connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't really
matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/9f/2b/e0/9f2be0cb4046c3f4d82a79b44192b43b.jpg

A newsman on the ground reported over the air at the time...

"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book
Depository building."

I addressed that incident, which incident both Sawyer and the Warren Report ignored, thank you. You may ignore it too now.

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On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the street that

they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at 1:12, "On
the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before Hill's, he

saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In fact, as
he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding of the
shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer
connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't really
matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman, possible
candidates...

dcw

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:36:34 AM UTC-7, John Corbett wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the street that

they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at 1:12, "On
the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before Hill's, he

saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In fact, as
he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding of the
shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer
connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't really
matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

You're still an idiot, Don.

The type of incisive commentary we've come to expect from John Robot and his limited vocabulary...

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the street

that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at 1:12, "
On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before Hill's,

he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In fact,
as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding of the
shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer
connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't really
matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman, possible

candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard. So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or
misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important to your 5th floor point, but I think it's the truth.

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:45:30 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 5:13:59 AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the street

that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at 1:12, "
On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before Hill's,

he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In fact,
as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding of the
shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer
connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't really
matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/9f/2b/e0/9f2be0cb4046c3f4d82a79b44192b43b.jpg

A newsman on the ground reported over the air at the time...

"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

I addressed that incident,

This alone shoots your ideas down.

which incident both Sawyer and the Warren Report ignored, thank you. You may ignore it too now.

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the street

that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at 1:12, "
On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before Hill's,

he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In fact,
as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding of the
shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer
connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't really
matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman, possible

candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it...

"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important to your 5th

floor point, but I think it's the truth.

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:23:42 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:49:38 AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the

street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at
1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before

Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In
fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding
of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer
connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't really
matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman,

possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it...

Sawyer didn't hear him. No one connected with the writing of the Warren Report heard him. Ever heard of Fake News? Not something new...

Several photographs of Hill out the window. Contemptuous reporting on the ground. Utterly destroys your ideas.

"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important to your

5th floor point, but I think it's the truth.

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 9:04:33 AM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the street

that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at 1:12, "
On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before Hill's,

he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In fact,
as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding of the
shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer
connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't really
matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman, possible

candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard. So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard

or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important to your 5th floor point, but I think it's the truth.

Based on Sawyer's phraseology ("reported TO ME by somebody") and on Mooney's espying only Decker and Fritz out front, I'd say it wasn't Mooney's shouting that caught Sawyer's attention. Also, as we've found, Fritz wasn't even out there circa 1 o'clock!
Based on Fritz's police-radio dance around the trip to Parkland, and on Hill's en-route radio message about 12:48, I'd say that maybe Hill was right when he testified that Fritz came in almost at the same time as he, Hill, and Sawyer & Valentine did,
circa 12:50. Seems like Day and Studebaker may have come in about that time, too, based on what Barnes testified: that, when he contacted his captain, he, Barnes, said that his men, D&S, were already at the shooting site. I assume that that means the
TSBD, but I guess it could have been anywhere in Dealey. And Barnes said that he went to Dealey right after 12:30, straight from his dentist's office. I had previously thought that Barnes went to Dealey circa 1pm, with Day & Studebaker, but I guess he
was a lone wolf...

dcw

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:49:38 AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the

street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at
1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before Hill'

s, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In fact,
as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding of the
shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer
connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't really
matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman, possible

candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it...

Sawyer didn't hear him. No one connected with the writing of the Warren Report heard him. Ever heard of Fake News? Not something new...

"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important to your 5th

floor point, but I think it's the truth.

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the

street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at
1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before Hill'

s, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In fact,
as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding of the
shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer
connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't really
matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman, possible

candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it...
"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important to your 5th

floor point, but I think it's the trut

Steve Pieringer was the only ground dweller who "heard" Jerry. He "died" at the age of27. Coincidentally.

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:37:51 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the

street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at
1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before

Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In
fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding
of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer
connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't really
matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman,

possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it... "Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important to your

5th floor point, but I think it's the trut

Steve Pieringer was the only ground dweller who "heard" Jerry.

So he made it up on the spot and broadcast it? Just happens that photographs show Hill shouting down?

You realize that that this contemporaneous, corroborated and filmed event is better than everything you have, right?

He "died" at the age of27. Coincidentally.

No coincidence that you idiots will contrive any reason to disregard information that goes against your silly ideas.

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:52:45 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:37:51 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the

street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at
1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before

Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In
fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding
of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer
connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't really
matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman,

possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it... "Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important to your

5th floor point, but I think it's the trut

Steve Pieringer was the only ground dweller who "heard" Jerry.

So he made it up on the spot and broadcast it? Just happens that photographs show Hill shouting down?

You realize that that this contemporaneous, corroborated and filmed event is better than everything you have, right?

He "died" at the age of27. Coincidentally.

No coincidence that you idiots will contrive any reason to disregard information that goes against your silly ideas.

Show me the film of Hill hollering, you lying Nutter Retard. Why didn't Pieringer film it? He had a camera. That's why he was there, to take pictures. You have no answers because you're a fucking retard.

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:15:24 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:52:45 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:37:51 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the

street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at
1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just

before Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt.
Fritz. In fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the
finding of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-
Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't
really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman,

possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it... "Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important to

your 5th floor point, but I think it's the trut

Steve Pieringer was the only ground dweller who "heard" Jerry.

So he made it up on the spot and broadcast it? Just happens that photographs show Hill shouting down?

You realize that that this contemporaneous, corroborated and filmed event is better than everything you have, right?

He "died" at the age of27. Coincidentally.

No coincidence that you idiots will contrive any reason to disregard information that goes against your silly ideas.

Show me the film of Hill hollering, you lying Nutter Retard. Why didn't Pieringer film it? He had a camera. That's why he was there, to take pictures.

Didn`t he?

You have no answers because you're a fucking retard.

To conspiracy idiots what is not available carries more weight than what is.

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:20:48 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:15:24 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:52:45 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:37:51 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from

the street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher,
at 1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just

before Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt.
Fritz. In fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the
finding of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-
Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't
really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman,

possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it...
"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important to

your 5th floor point, but I think it's the trut

Steve Pieringer was the only ground dweller who "heard" Jerry.

So he made it up on the spot and broadcast it? Just happens that photographs show Hill shouting down?

You realize that that this contemporaneous, corroborated and filmed event is better than everything you have, right?

He "died" at the age of27. Coincidentally.

No coincidence that you idiots will contrive any reason to disregard information that goes against your silly ideas.

Show me the film of Hill hollering, you lying Nutter Retard. Why didn't Pieringer film it? He had a camera. That's why he was there, to take pictures.

Didn`t he?

You have no answers because you're a fucking retard.

To conspiracy idiots what is not available carries more weight than what is.

No, Pieringer did not film Hill hollering, you ignoramus. Nutters are such retards! Which is why they are known as Nutter Retards.

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:52:45 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:37:51 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the

street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at
1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before

Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In
fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding
of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer
connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't really
matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman,

possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it... "Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important to your

5th floor point, but I think it's the trut

Steve Pieringer was the only ground dweller who "heard" Jerry.

So he made it up on the spot and broadcast it? Just happens that photographs show Hill shouting down?

You realize that that this contemporaneous, corroborated and filmed event

"Filmed", ok. But without sound, there's nothing there. He may just have been saying that there's a "nest" over there. Well, yes, there was. Otherwise, it's just he said/he said.

is better than everything you have, right?

He "died" at the age of27. Coincidentally.

No coincidence that you idiots will contrive any reason to disregard information that goes against your silly ideas.

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 1:20:48 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:15:24 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:52:45 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:37:51 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from

the street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher,
at 1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just

before Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt.
Fritz. In fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the
finding of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-
Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't
really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman,

possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it...
"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important to

your 5th floor point, but I think it's the trut

Steve Pieringer was the only ground dweller who "heard" Jerry.

So he made it up on the spot and broadcast it? Just happens that photographs show Hill shouting down?

You realize that that this contemporaneous, corroborated and filmed event is better than everything you have, right?

He "died" at the age of27. Coincidentally.

No coincidence that you idiots will contrive any reason to disregard information that goes against your silly ideas.

Show me the film of Hill hollering, you lying Nutter Retard. Why didn't Pieringer film it? He had a camera. That's why he was there, to take pictures.

Didn`t he?

You have no answers because you're a fucking retard.

To conspiracy idiots what is not available carries more weight than what is.

Gullible LNs believe that DPD, FBI, & SS officials would never ever have destroyed incriminating evidence right on 11/22. Gullible CTs, meanwhile, seem to believe the same. But, as I recall, one FBI agent we all know did destroy evidence. Call it the
tip of a BIG iceberg....

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:32:31 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:23:42 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:49:38 AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the

street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at
1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before

Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In
fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding
of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer
connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't really
matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman,

possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it...

Sawyer didn't hear him. No one connected with the writing of the Warren Report heard him. Ever heard of Fake News? Not something new...

Several photographs of Hill out the window. Contemptuous reporting on the ground. Utterly destroys your ideas.

I'm sure you thought that the above made sense when you wrote it. Doesn't now.

"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important to your

5th floor point, but I think it's the truth.

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:36:09 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:52:45 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:37:51 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the

street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at
1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just

before Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt.
Fritz. In fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the
finding of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-
Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't
really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman,

possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it... "Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important to

your 5th floor point, but I think it's the trut

Steve Pieringer was the only ground dweller who "heard" Jerry.

So he made it up on the spot and broadcast it? Just happens that photographs show Hill shouting down?

You realize that that this contemporaneous, corroborated and filmed event

"Filmed", ok. But without sound, there's nothing there. He may just have been saying that there's a "nest" over there. Well, yes, there was. Otherwise, it's just he said/he said.
is better than everything you have, right?

He "died" at the age of27. Coincidentally.

No coincidence that you idiots will contrive any reason to disregard information that goes against your silly ideas.

Pieringer actually said on the radio that Hill had hollered out a window. I think he said 5th floor! But I don't believe it.

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 1:42:30 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:36:09 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:52:45 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:37:51 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from

the street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher,
at 1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just

before Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt.
Fritz. In fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the
finding of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-
Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't
really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman,

possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it...
"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important to

your 5th floor point, but I think it's the trut

Steve Pieringer was the only ground dweller who "heard" Jerry.

So he made it up on the spot and broadcast it? Just happens that photographs show Hill shouting down?

You realize that that this contemporaneous, corroborated and filmed event

"Filmed", ok. But without sound, there's nothing there. He may just have been saying that there's a "nest" over there. Well, yes, there was. Otherwise, it's just he said/he said.
is better than everything you have, right?

He "died" at the age of27. Coincidentally.

No coincidence that you idiots will contrive any reason to disregard information that goes against your silly ideas.

Pieringer actually said on the radio that Hill had hollered out a window. I think he said 5th floor! But I don't believe it.

Now, you're just tantalizing me.... I could believe it!

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:51:37 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 1:42:30 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:36:09 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:52:45 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:37:51 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from

the street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher,
at 1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just

before Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt.
Fritz. In fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the
finding of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-
Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't
really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman,

possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it...
"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important

to your 5th floor point, but I think it's the trut

Steve Pieringer was the only ground dweller who "heard" Jerry.

So he made it up on the spot and broadcast it? Just happens that photographs show Hill shouting down?

You realize that that this contemporaneous, corroborated and filmed event

"Filmed", ok. But without sound, there's nothing there. He may just have been saying that there's a "nest" over there. Well, yes, there was. Otherwise, it's just he said/he said.
is better than everything you have, right?

He "died" at the age of27. Coincidentally.

No coincidence that you idiots will contrive any reason to disregard information that goes against your silly ideas.

Pieringer actually said on the radio that Hill had hollered out a window. I think he said 5th floor! But I don't believe it.

Now, you're just tantalizing me.... I could believe it!

He said that he looked to him "like the 4th floor" in the Texas School Book Depository "at Elm and Fields Street."

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:36:09 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:52:45 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:37:51 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the

street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at
1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just

before Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt.
Fritz. In fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the
finding of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-
Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't
really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman,

possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it... "Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important to

your 5th floor point, but I think it's the trut

Steve Pieringer was the only ground dweller who "heard" Jerry.

So he made it up on the spot and broadcast it? Just happens that photographs show Hill shouting down?

You realize that that this contemporaneous, corroborated and filmed event

"Filmed", ok. But without sound, there's nothing there. He may just have been saying that there's a "nest" over there. Well, yes, there was. Otherwise, it's just he said/he said.

Heard and reported over the air. Shells found at that location. Photo of cop pointing to that location. Right where shells were found (I guess a lucky guess by the reporter on the ground about the shells and the location, huh? Or "in on it" if your
ideas require that).

Still trumps everything you guys have to offer.

is better than everything you have, right?

He "died" at the age of27. Coincidentally.

No coincidence that you idiots will contrive any reason to disregard information that goes against your silly ideas.

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:42:04 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 1:20:48 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:15:24 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:52:45 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:37:51 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from

the street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher,
at 1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just

before Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt.
Fritz. In fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the
finding of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-
Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't
really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman,

possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it...
"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important

to your 5th floor point, but I think it's the trut

Steve Pieringer was the only ground dweller who "heard" Jerry.

So he made it up on the spot and broadcast it? Just happens that photographs show Hill shouting down?

You realize that that this contemporaneous, corroborated and filmed event is better than everything you have, right?

He "died" at the age of27. Coincidentally.

No coincidence that you idiots will contrive any reason to disregard information that goes against your silly ideas.

Show me the film of Hill hollering, you lying Nutter Retard. Why didn't Pieringer film it? He had a camera. That's why he was there, to take pictures.

Didn`t he?

You have no answers because you're a fucking retard.

To conspiracy idiots what is not available carries more weight than what is.

Gullible LNs believe that DPD, FBI, & SS officials would never ever have destroyed incriminating evidence right on 11/22.

I guess when you have nothing it is just as good to imagine it existed and was destroyed.

Gullible CTs, meanwhile, seem to believe the same. But, as I recall, one FBI agent we all know did destroy evidence. Call it the tip of a BIG iceberg....

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:33:42 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:32:31 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:23:42 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:49:38 AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the

street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at
1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just

before Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt.
Fritz. In fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the
finding of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-
Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't
really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman,

possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it...

Sawyer didn't hear him. No one connected with the writing of the Warren Report heard him. Ever heard of Fake News? Not something new...

Several photographs of Hill out the window. Contemptuous reporting on the ground. Utterly destroys your ideas.

I'm sure you thought that the above made sense when you wrote it. Doesn't now.

I saw that and corrected it in another post I made. Should have been "contemporaneous" (existing or occurring in the same period of time).

But I`m sure you knew that.

"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important to

your 5th floor point, but I think it's the truth.

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:42:30 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:36:09 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:52:45 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:37:51 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from

the street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher,
at 1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just

before Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt.
Fritz. In fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the
finding of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-
Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't
really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman,

possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it...
"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important to

your 5th floor point, but I think it's the trut

Steve Pieringer was the only ground dweller who "heard" Jerry.

So he made it up on the spot and broadcast it? Just happens that photographs show Hill shouting down?

You realize that that this contemporaneous, corroborated and filmed event

"Filmed", ok. But without sound, there's nothing there. He may just have been saying that there's a "nest" over there. Well, yes, there was. Otherwise, it's just he said/he said.
is better than everything you have, right?

He "died" at the age of27. Coincidentally.

No coincidence that you idiots will contrive any reason to disregard information that goes against your silly ideas.

Pieringer actually said on the radio that Hill had hollered out a window. I think he said 5th floor! But I don't believe it.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/9f/2b/e0/9f2be0cb4046c3f4d82a79b44192b43b.jpg

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth184839/m1/1/

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 5:05:12 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:42:30 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:36:09 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:52:45 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:37:51 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from

the street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher,
at 1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just

before Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt.
Fritz. In fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the
finding of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-
Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't
really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman,

possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it...
"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important

to your 5th floor point, but I think it's the trut

Steve Pieringer was the only ground dweller who "heard" Jerry.

So he made it up on the spot and broadcast it? Just happens that photographs show Hill shouting down?

You realize that that this contemporaneous, corroborated and filmed event

"Filmed", ok. But without sound, there's nothing there. He may just have been saying that there's a "nest" over there. Well, yes, there was. Otherwise, it's just he said/he said.
is better than everything you have, right?

He "died" at the age of27. Coincidentally.

No coincidence that you idiots will contrive any reason to disregard information that goes against your silly ideas.

Pieringer actually said on the radio that Hill had hollered out a window. I think he said 5th floor! But I don't believe it.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/9f/2b/e0/9f2be0cb4046c3f4d82a79b44192b43b.jpg

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth184839/m1/1/

That's not Steve Pieringer film, you blithering idiot! Try again, LOSER!

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On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 13:33:40 -0700 (PDT), donald willis
<dcwillis9@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:32:31?PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:23:42?PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:49:38?AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33?PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27?AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote: >>>>>> On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01?PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11?AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote: >>>>>>>> Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the street

that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at 1:12, "
On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before Hill'

s, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In fact,
as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding of the
shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding...

The Hill-Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it

doesn't really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman,

possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it...

Sawyer didn't hear him. No one connected with the writing of the Warren Report heard him. Ever heard of Fake News? Not something new...

Several photographs of Hill out the window. Contemptuous reporting on the ground. Utterly destroys your ideas.

I'm sure you thought that the above made sense when you wrote it. Doesn't now.

I wonder what happened to the contemporary reporting... Why was it
written comtemptuously? And were the several photographs showing Hill
thrown out the window? Or photos of Hill jumping out the window?

Intelligent people want to know... (and watch the logical fallacies
sputttered in return.)

"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important to your

5th floor point, but I think it's the truth.

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On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:11:11 PM UTC-5, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the street that

they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at 1:12, "On
the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before Hill's, he

saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In fact, as
he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding of the
shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer
connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't really
matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

Mr. BELIN. Now looking down on this log until the next time your number appears, is 1:12 p.m. What does that say?
Mr. SAWYER. "We have found empty rifle hulls on the fifth floor and from all indications the man had been there for some time."
Mr. BELIN. Then is there anything else?
Mr. SAWYER. This was reported to me by somebody inside the building.

"on the fifth floor"

See also https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth339128/m1/63/

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:01:20 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:36:09 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:52:45 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:37:51 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from

the street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher,
at 1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just

before Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt.
Fritz. In fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the
finding of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-
Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't
really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman,

possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it...
"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important to

your 5th floor point, but I think it's the trut

Steve Pieringer was the only ground dweller who "heard" Jerry.

So he made it up on the spot and broadcast it? Just happens that photographs show Hill shouting down?

You realize that that this contemporaneous, corroborated and filmed event

"Filmed", ok. But without sound, there's nothing there. He may just have been saying that there's a "nest" over there. Well, yes, there was. Otherwise, it's just he said/he said.

Heard and reported over the air. Shells found at that location. Photo of cop pointing to that location. Right where shells were found

Or is it just a photo of a cop pointing to the "nest" they'd found? Big deal.

(I guess a lucky guess by the reporter on the ground about the shells and the location, huh? Or "in on it" if your ideas require that).

Still trumps everything you guys have to offer.

is better than everything you have, right?

He "died" at the age of27. Coincidentally.

No coincidence that you idiots will contrive any reason to disregard information that goes against your silly ideas.

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:02:42 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:42:04 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 1:20:48 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:15:24 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:52:45 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:37:51 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication

from the street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police
dispatcher, at 1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just

before Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt.
Fritz. In fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the
finding of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-
Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't
really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner &

Wiseman, possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it...
"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important

to your 5th floor point, but I think it's the trut

Steve Pieringer was the only ground dweller who "heard" Jerry.

So he made it up on the spot and broadcast it? Just happens that photographs show Hill shouting down?

You realize that that this contemporaneous, corroborated and filmed event is better than everything you have, right?

He "died" at the age of27. Coincidentally.

No coincidence that you idiots will contrive any reason to disregard information that goes against your silly ideas.

Show me the film of Hill hollering, you lying Nutter Retard. Why didn't Pieringer film it? He had a camera. That's why he was there, to take pictures.

Didn`t he?

You have no answers because you're a fucking retard.

To conspiracy idiots what is not available carries more weight than what is.

Gullible LNs believe that DPD, FBI, & SS officials would never ever have destroyed incriminating evidence right on 11/22.

I guess when you have nothing it is just as good to imagine it existed and was destroyed.

Several same-day affidavits/statements mentioned by (a) Deputy Lewis, (b) James Tague, and (c) Det. James Leavelle have disappeared. Are you saying Lewis, Tague, and Leavelle lied re their existence? These include statements by Robert Jackson, Tague
himself, and Benavides.

dcw

Gullible CTs, meanwhile, seem to believe the same. But, as I recall, one FBI agent we all know did destroy evidence. Call it the tip of a BIG iceberg....

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:07:39 PM UTC-7, Ben Holmes wrote:

On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 13:33:40 -0700 (PDT), donald willis
<dcwi...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:32:31?PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:23:42?PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:49:38?AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33?PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27?AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote: >>>>>> On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01?PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11?AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the

street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at
1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before

Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In
fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding
of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding...

The Hill-Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it

doesn't really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman,

possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it... >>> Sawyer didn't hear him. No one connected with the writing of the Warren Report heard him. Ever heard of Fake News? Not something new...

Several photographs of Hill out the window. Contemptuous reporting on the ground. Utterly destroys your ideas.

I'm sure you thought that the above made sense when you wrote it. Doesn't now.

I wonder what happened to the contemporary reporting... Why was it
written comtemptuously? And were the several photographs showing Hill
thrown out the window? Or photos of Hill jumping out the window?

Good one. I hadn't noticed that glitch.

Intelligent people want to know... (and watch the logical fallacies sputttered in return.)

"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important to your

5th floor point, but I think it's the truth.

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:12:05 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:33:42 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:32:31 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:23:42 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:49:38 AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from

the street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher,
at 1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just

before Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt.
Fritz. In fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the
finding of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-
Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't
really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman,

possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it...

Sawyer didn't hear him. No one connected with the writing of the Warren Report heard him. Ever heard of Fake News? Not something new...

Several photographs of Hill out the window. Contemptuous reporting on the ground. Utterly destroys your ideas.

I'm sure you thought that the above made sense when you wrote it. Doesn't now.

I saw that and corrected it in another post I made. Should have been "contemporaneous" (existing or occurring in the same period of time).

But I`m sure you knew that.

Why are LNs always reading CTs minds? I had no idea what "contemptuous" was doing there.

"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important to

your 5th floor point, but I think it's the truth.

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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:52:39 PM UTC-7, recip...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:11:11 PM UTC-5, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the street that

they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at 1:12, "On
the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before Hill's, he

saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In fact, as
he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding of the
shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer
connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't really
matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

Mr. BELIN. Now looking down on this log until the next time your number appears, is 1:12 p.m. What does that say?
Mr. SAWYER. "We have found empty rifle hulls on the fifth floor and from all indications the man had been there for some time."
Mr. BELIN. Then is there anything else?
Mr. SAWYER. This was reported to me by somebody inside the building.

"on the fifth floor"

Yes, that "fifth" appears in Sawyer's erratic testimony. But Robert Trask, in "Pictures of the Pain", wrote, "'On the third [sic] floor of this book co. down here, we found empty rifle hulls" (p523)--a footnote documents that this info is from an "Audio
tape of DPD transmissions". (p557). So you can't use the excuse that "fifth" floor was confused with "sixth" here, sorry. Thank you, however, for highlighting DPD malfeasance, on the parts of both Sawyer and transcriber Henslee. I believe that this
handy "error" was corrected in later DPD & FBI transcriptions...

dcw

See also https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth339128/m1/63/

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On Fri, 4 Aug 2023 09:21:30 -0700 (PDT), donald willis
<dcwillis9@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:12:05?PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:33:42?PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:32:31?PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:23:42?PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote: >>>>> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:49:38?AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33?PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27?AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote: >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01?PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11?AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the

street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at
1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before

Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In
fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding
of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins

unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12?

Then again, it doesn't really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman,

possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it... >>>>> Sawyer didn't hear him. No one connected with the writing of the Warren Report heard him. Ever heard of Fake News? Not something new...

Several photographs of Hill out the window. Contemptuous reporting on the ground. Utterly destroys your ideas.

I'm sure you thought that the above made sense when you wrote it. Doesn't now.

I saw that and corrected it in another post I made. Should have been "contemporaneous" (existing or occurring in the same period of time).

But I`m sure you knew that.

Why are LNs always reading CTs minds? I had no idea what "contemptuous" was doing there.

Mainly because they can't deal with what we say. So they have to
invent what we say, or pretend we said something different.

Or in this case, because they don't want to accept responsibility for
their error.

"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important to your

5th floor point, but I think it's the truth.

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On Fri, 4 Aug 2023 09:18:18 -0700 (PDT), donald willis
<dcwillis9@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:02:42?PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:42:04?PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 1:20:48?PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:15:24?PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote: >>>>> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:52:45?PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:37:51?PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:49:38?PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33?PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27?AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01?PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11?AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the

street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at
1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before

Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In
fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding
of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins

unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12?

Then again, it doesn't really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman,

possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it... >>>>>>>> "Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important to

your 5th floor point, but I think it's the trut

Steve Pieringer was the only ground dweller who "heard" Jerry.

So he made it up on the spot and broadcast it? Just happens that photographs show Hill shouting down?

You realize that that this contemporaneous, corroborated and filmed event is better than everything you have, right?

He "died" at the age of27. Coincidentally.

No coincidence that you idiots will contrive any reason to disregard information that goes against your silly ideas.

Show me the film of Hill hollering, you lying Nutter Retard. Why didn't Pieringer film it? He had a camera. That's why he was there, to take pictures.

Didn`t he?

You have no answers because you're a fucking retard.

To conspiracy idiots what is not available carries more weight than what is.

Gullible LNs believe that DPD, FBI, & SS officials would never ever have destroyed incriminating evidence right on 11/22.

I guess when you have nothing it is just as good to imagine it existed and was destroyed.

Several same-day affidavits/statements mentioned by (a) Deputy Lewis, (b) James Tague, and (c) Det. James Leavelle have disappeared. Are you saying Lewis, Tague, and Leavelle lied re their existence? These include statements by Robert Jackson, Tague

himself, and Benavides.

dcw

It's simple historical FACT that evidence has been destroyed or
"disappeared" in this case... but as believer's have no
non-conspiratorial explanation, they need to deny it or ignore it.

So, quite dishonestly, they do.

Gullible CTs, meanwhile, seem to believe the same. But, as I recall, one FBI agent we all know did destroy evidence. Call it the tip of a BIG iceberg....

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On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 12:13:25 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:01:20 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:36:09 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:52:45 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:37:51 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from

the street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher,
at 1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just

before Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt.
Fritz. In fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the
finding of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-
Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't
really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman,

possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it...
"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important

to your 5th floor point, but I think it's the trut

Steve Pieringer was the only ground dweller who "heard" Jerry.

So he made it up on the spot and broadcast it? Just happens that photographs show Hill shouting down?

You realize that that this contemporaneous, corroborated and filmed event

"Filmed", ok. But without sound, there's nothing there. He may just have been saying that there's a "nest" over there. Well, yes, there was. Otherwise, it's just he said/he said.

Heard and reported over the air. Shells found at that location. Photo of cop pointing to that location. Right where shells were found

Or is it just a photo of a cop pointing to the "nest" they'd found? Big deal.

""Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

Kills your ideas, Don.

(I guess a lucky guess by the reporter on the ground about the shells and the location, huh? Or "in on it" if your ideas require that).

Still trumps everything you guys have to offer.

is better than everything you have, right?

He "died" at the age of27. Coincidentally.

No coincidence that you idiots will contrive any reason to disregard information that goes against your silly ideas.

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On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 12:46:42 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:

On Fri, 4 Aug 2023 09:18:18 -0700 (PDT), donald willis
<dcwi...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:02:42?PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:42:04?PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 1:20:48?PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:15:24?PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:52:45?PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:37:51?PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:49:38?PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33?PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27?AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01?PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11?AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the

street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at
1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before

Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In
fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding
of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins

unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12?

Then again, it doesn't really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner & Wiseman,

possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it...
"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important to

your 5th floor point, but I think it's the trut

Steve Pieringer was the only ground dweller who "heard" Jerry. >>>>>> So he made it up on the spot and broadcast it? Just happens that photographs show Hill shouting down?

You realize that that this contemporaneous, corroborated and filmed event is better than everything you have, right?

He "died" at the age of27. Coincidentally.

No coincidence that you idiots will contrive any reason to disregard information that goes against your silly ideas.

Show me the film of Hill hollering, you lying Nutter Retard. Why didn't Pieringer film it? He had a camera. That's why he was there, to take pictures.

Didn`t he?

You have no answers because you're a fucking retard.

To conspiracy idiots what is not available carries more weight than what is.

Gullible LNs believe that DPD, FBI, & SS officials would never ever have destroyed incriminating evidence right on 11/22.

I guess when you have nothing it is just as good to imagine it existed and was destroyed.

Several same-day affidavits/statements mentioned by (a) Deputy Lewis, (b) James Tague, and (c) Det. James Leavelle have disappeared. Are you saying Lewis, Tague, and Leavelle lied re their existence? These include statements by Robert Jackson, Tague

himself, and Benavides.

dcw

It's simple historical FACT that evidence has been destroyed or "disappeared" in this case... but as believer's have no
non-conspiratorial explanation, they need to deny it or ignore it.

It`s a fact that you blow a lot of hot air.

So, quite dishonestly, they do.

Gullible CTs, meanwhile, seem to believe the same. But, as I recall, one FBI agent we all know did destroy evidence. Call it the tip of a BIG iceberg....

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On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 10:04:06 AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 12:13:25 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:01:20 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:36:09 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:52:45 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:37:51 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication

from the street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police
dispatcher, at 1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just

before Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt.
Fritz. In fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the
finding of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-
Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't
really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner &

Wiseman, possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it...
"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not important

to your 5th floor point, but I think it's the trut

Steve Pieringer was the only ground dweller who "heard" Jerry.

So he made it up on the spot and broadcast it? Just happens that photographs show Hill shouting down?

You realize that that this contemporaneous, corroborated and filmed event

"Filmed", ok. But without sound, there's nothing there. He may just have been saying that there's a "nest" over there. Well, yes, there was. Otherwise, it's just he said/he said.

Heard and reported over the air. Shells found at that location. Photo of cop pointing to that location. Right where shells were found

Or is it just a photo of a cop pointing to the "nest" they'd found? Big deal.

""Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."
Kills your ideas, Don.

My original post here kills that unattributed quote:

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the street that
they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at 1:12, "On
the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)
As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before Hill's, he saw
several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In fact, as he
testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding of the shells-
-goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer connection
makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't really matter who.
The damage was done.
"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

Bud--when you find film or photo of Mooney leaning out a window calling for the Crime Lab, let me know. His understudy, Hill, seems pretty bogus, and redundant. (See above.) The Crime Lab responded immediately to Mooney's shout. Nobody responded to
Hill.
dcw

(I guess a lucky guess by the reporter on the ground about the shells and the location, huh? Or "in on it" if your ideas require that).

Still trumps everything you guys have to offer.

is better than everything you have, right?

He "died" at the age of27. Coincidentally.

No coincidence that you idiots will contrive any reason to disregard information that goes against your silly ideas.

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On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 9:52:58 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 10:04:06 AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 12:13:25 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:01:20 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:36:09 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:52:45 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:37:51 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication

from the street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police
dispatcher, at 1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street,

just before Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from
Capt. Fritz. In fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in
timing the finding of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding...
The Hill-Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it
doesn't really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner &

Wiseman, possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it...
"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not

important to your 5th floor point, but I think it's the trut

Steve Pieringer was the only ground dweller who "heard" Jerry.

So he made it up on the spot and broadcast it? Just happens that photographs show Hill shouting down?

You realize that that this contemporaneous, corroborated and filmed event

"Filmed", ok. But without sound, there's nothing there. He may just have been saying that there's a "nest" over there. Well, yes, there was. Otherwise, it's just he said/he said.

Heard and reported over the air. Shells found at that location. Photo of cop pointing to that location. Right where shells were found

Or is it just a photo of a cop pointing to the "nest" they'd found? Big deal.

""Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."
Kills your ideas, Don.

My original post here kills that unattributed quote:

https://books.google.com/books?id=VpjrlVcB61IC&pg=PA14&lpg=PA14&dq=Jerry+Hill+of+the+Dallas+Police+Department+just+leaned+out+a+window+and+told+police+to+call+the+Dallas+crime+laboratory+to+the+scene.&source=bl&ots=rM7I8-KaRm&sig=ACfU3U2MwUcK-cjcz-
XYJypyRRfqmUAMVA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjThMT8uMSAAxWfF1kFHRn8CtUQ6AF6BAgjEAM#v=onepage&q=Jerry%20Hill%20of%20the%20Dallas%20Police%20Department%20just%20leaned%20out%20a%20window%20and%20told%20police%20to%20call%20the%20Dallas%20crime%20laboratory%20to%
20the%20scene.&f=false

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the street that

they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at 1:12, "On
the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before Hill's, he

saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In fact, as
he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding of the
shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer
connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't really
matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."
Bud--when you find film or photo of Mooney leaning out a window calling for the Crime Lab, let me know.

I don`t know that he did. I do do know that Hill did, that is established. And what he yelled down is established.

And it absolutely destroys your ideas.

His understudy, Hill, seems pretty bogus, and redundant. (See above.) The Crime Lab responded immediately to Mooney's shout. Nobody responded to Hill.

What Hill did establishes where the shells were found.

dcw

(I guess a lucky guess by the reporter on the ground about the shells and the location, huh? Or "in on it" if your ideas require that).

Still trumps everything you guys have to offer.

is better than everything you have, right?

He "died" at the age of27. Coincidentally.

No coincidence that you idiots will contrive any reason to disregard information that goes against your silly ideas.

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On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 7:24:28 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 9:52:58 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 10:04:06 AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 12:13:25 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:01:20 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:36:09 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:52:45 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:37:51 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any

indication from the street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the
police dispatcher, at 1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street,

just before Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from
Capt. Fritz. In fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in
timing the finding of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding...
The Hill-Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it
doesn't really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner &

Wiseman, possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it...
"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not

important to your 5th floor point, but I think it's the trut

Steve Pieringer was the only ground dweller who "heard" Jerry.

So he made it up on the spot and broadcast it? Just happens that photographs show Hill shouting down?

You realize that that this contemporaneous, corroborated and filmed event

"Filmed", ok. But without sound, there's nothing there. He may just have been saying that there's a "nest" over there. Well, yes, there was. Otherwise, it's just he said/he said.

Heard and reported over the air. Shells found at that location. Photo of cop pointing to that location. Right where shells were found

Or is it just a photo of a cop pointing to the "nest" they'd found? Big deal.

""Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."
Kills your ideas, Don.

My original post here kills that unattributed quote:

https://books.google.com/books?id=VpjrlVcB61IC&pg=PA14&lpg=PA14&dq=Jerry+Hill+of+the+Dallas+Police+Department+just+leaned+out+a+window+and+told+police+to+call+the+Dallas+crime+laboratory+to+the+scene.&source=bl&ots=rM7I8-KaRm&sig=ACfU3U2MwUcK-cjcz-

XYJypyRRfqmUAMVA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjThMT8uMSAAxWfF1kFHRn8CtUQ6AF6BAgjEAM#v=onepage&q=Jerry%20Hill%20of%20the%20Dallas%20Police%20Department%20just%20leaned%20out%20a%20window%20and%20told%20police%20to%20call%20the%20Dallas%20crime%20laboratory%20to%
20the%20scene.&f=false

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the street that

they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at 1:12, "On
the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before Hill's, he

saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In fact, as
he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding of the
shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer
connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't really
matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."
Bud--when you find film or photo of Mooney leaning out a window calling for the Crime Lab, let me know.

I don`t know that he did.

He did. Sgt. Harkness heard him at 12:58 or 12:59 and reported it to the Crime Scene wagon. It's on the radio-log tapes.

I do do know that Hill did, that is established. And what he yelled down is established.

Well, then, he must have yelled down that the shells were found on the THIRD FLOOR. Because that's what Sawyer radioed at 1:12.

And it absolutely destroys your ideas.

Sawyer's transmission destroys *yours*....

dcw

His understudy, Hill, seems pretty bogus, and redundant. (See above.) The Crime Lab responded immediately to Mooney's shout. Nobody responded to Hill.

What Hill did establishes where the shells were found.

dcw

(I guess a lucky guess by the reporter on the ground about the shells and the location, huh? Or "in on it" if your ideas require that).

Still trumps everything you guys have to offer.

is better than everything you have, right?

He "died" at the age of27. Coincidentally.

No coincidence that you idiots will contrive any reason to disregard information that goes against your silly ideas.

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On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 11:58:42 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 7:24:28 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 9:52:58 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 10:04:06 AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 12:13:25 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:01:20 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:36:09 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:52:45 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:37:51 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any

indication from the street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the
police dispatcher, at 1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street,

just before Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from
Capt. Fritz. In fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in
timing the finding of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding...
The Hill-Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it
doesn't really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner &

Wiseman, possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it...
"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository

building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not

important to your 5th floor point, but I think it's the trut

Steve Pieringer was the only ground dweller who "heard" Jerry.

So he made it up on the spot and broadcast it? Just happens that photographs show Hill shouting down?

You realize that that this contemporaneous, corroborated and filmed event

"Filmed", ok. But without sound, there's nothing there. He may just have been saying that there's a "nest" over there. Well, yes, there was. Otherwise, it's just he said/he said.

Heard and reported over the air. Shells found at that location. Photo of cop pointing to that location. Right where shells were found

Or is it just a photo of a cop pointing to the "nest" they'd found? Big deal.

""Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."
Kills your ideas, Don.

My original post here kills that unattributed quote:

https://books.google.com/books?id=VpjrlVcB61IC&pg=PA14&lpg=PA14&dq=Jerry+Hill+of+the+Dallas+Police+Department+just+leaned+out+a+window+and+told+police+to+call+the+Dallas+crime+laboratory+to+the+scene.&source=bl&ots=rM7I8-KaRm&sig=ACfU3U2MwUcK-cjcz-

XYJypyRRfqmUAMVA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjThMT8uMSAAxWfF1kFHRn8CtUQ6AF6BAgjEAM#v=onepage&q=Jerry%20Hill%20of%20the%20Dallas%20Police%20Department%20just%20leaned%20out%20a%20window%20and%20told%20police%20to%20call%20the%20Dallas%20crime%20laboratory%20to%
20the%20scene.&f=false

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the street

that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at 1:12, "
On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before Hill's,

he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In fact,
as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding of the
shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer
connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't really
matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."
Bud--when you find film or photo of Mooney leaning out a window calling for the Crime Lab, let me know.

I don`t know that he did.

He did. Sgt. Harkness heard him at 12:58 or 12:59 and reported it to the Crime Scene wagon. It's on the radio-log tapes.

Perhaps he mistook Hill for Mooney.

In any case, we have proof that Hill indicated the SN as the location shells were found.

I do do know that Hill did, that is established. And what he yelled down is established.

Well, then, he must have yelled down that the shells were found on the THIRD FLOOR. Because that's what Sawyer radioed at 1:12.

You can try to misdirect anywhere you like, it doesn`t change the fact that there is proof that Hill indicated shells were found in the SN. On the sixth floor. This kills your ideas.

And it absolutely destroys your ideas.

Sawyer's transmission destroys *yours*....

dcw

His understudy, Hill, seems pretty bogus, and redundant. (See above.) The Crime Lab responded immediately to Mooney's shout. Nobody responded to Hill.

What Hill did establishes where the shells were found.

dcw

(I guess a lucky guess by the reporter on the ground about the shells and the location, huh? Or "in on it" if your ideas require that).

Still trumps everything you guys have to offer.

is better than everything you have, right?

He "died" at the age of27. Coincidentally.

No coincidence that you idiots will contrive any reason to disregard information that goes against your silly ideas.

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On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 11:44:08 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 3:46:38 AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 11:58:42 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 7:24:28 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 9:52:58 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 10:04:06 AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 12:13:25 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:01:20 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:36:09 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:52:45 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:37:51 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any

indication from the street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the
police dispatcher, at 1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the

street, just before Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions
from Capt. Fritz. In fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in
timing the finding of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding...
The Hill-Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it
doesn't really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies

Faulkner & Wiseman, possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it...
"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository

building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not

important to your 5th floor point, but I think it's the trut

Steve Pieringer was the only ground dweller who "heard" Jerry.

So he made it up on the spot and broadcast it? Just happens that photographs show Hill shouting down?

You realize that that this contemporaneous, corroborated and filmed event

"Filmed", ok. But without sound, there's nothing there. He may just have been saying that there's a "nest" over there. Well, yes, there was. Otherwise, it's just he said/he said.

Heard and reported over the air. Shells found at that location. Photo of cop pointing to that location. Right where shells were found

Or is it just a photo of a cop pointing to the "nest" they'd found? Big deal.

""Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."
Kills your ideas, Don.

My original post here kills that unattributed quote:

https://books.google.com/books?id=VpjrlVcB61IC&pg=PA14&lpg=PA14&dq=Jerry+Hill+of+the+Dallas+Police+Department+just+leaned+out+a+window+and+told+police+to+call+the+Dallas+crime+laboratory+to+the+scene.&source=bl&ots=rM7I8-KaRm&sig=ACfU3U2MwUcK-

cjcz-XYJypyRRfqmUAMVA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjThMT8uMSAAxWfF1kFHRn8CtUQ6AF6BAgjEAM#v=onepage&q=Jerry%20Hill%20of%20the%20Dallas%20Police%20Department%20just%20leaned%20out%20a%20window%20and%20told%20police%20to%20call%20the%20Dallas%20crime%20laboratory%
20to%20the%20scene.&f=false

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the

street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at
1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before Hill'

s, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In fact,
as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding of the
shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer
connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't really
matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."
Bud--when you find film or photo of Mooney leaning out a window calling for the Crime Lab, let me know.

I don`t know that he did.

He did. Sgt. Harkness heard him at 12:58 or 12:59 and reported it to the Crime Scene wagon. It's on the radio-log tapes.

Perhaps he mistook Hill for Mooney.

Try again. There were others on the floor with Mooney all of whom said that it was Mooney.

Doesn`t matter. We know for a fact Hill did.

Oddly enough, there don't seem to have been any other people on the floor with Hill. No one else mentions him or his shouting.

In any case, we have proof that Hill indicated the SN as the location shells were found.

I do do know that Hill did, that is established. And what he yelled down is established.

Well, then, he must have yelled down that the shells were found on the THIRD FLOOR. Because that's what Sawyer radioed at 1:12.

You can try to misdirect anywhere you like, it doesn`t change the fact that there is proof that Hill indicated shells were found in the SN. On the sixth floor. This kills your ideas.

You can't wriggle out of Sawyer's "third floor" right after Hill's shout.

Your misdirection doesn`t impact the facts I laid out.

And those facts destroy your ideas.

dcw

And it absolutely destroys your ideas.

Sawyer's transmission destroys *yours*....

dcw

His understudy, Hill, seems pretty bogus, and redundant. (See above.) The Crime Lab responded immediately to Mooney's shout. Nobody responded to Hill.

What Hill did establishes where the shells were found.

dcw

(I guess a lucky guess by the reporter on the ground about the shells and the location, huh? Or "in on it" if your ideas require that).

Still trumps everything you guys have to offer.

is better than everything you have, right?

He "died" at the age of27. Coincidentally.

No coincidence that you idiots will contrive any reason to disregard information that goes against your silly ideas.

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On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 3:46:38 AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 11:58:42 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 7:24:28 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 9:52:58 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 10:04:06 AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 12:13:25 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:01:20 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 4:36:09 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:52:45 PM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:37:51 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:04:33 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:51:27 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:00:01 PM UTC-7, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11 AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any

indication from the street that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the
police dispatcher, at 1:12, "On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the

street, just before Hill's, he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions
from Capt. Fritz. In fact, as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in
timing the finding of the shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding...
The Hill-Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it
doesn't really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

I don't think that Hill is Sawyer's "somebody." Nobody ever remember Hill being there at all. Hill is just putting himself into the story.

Whoever his somebody was had to have been in on the find of the spent shells on the 3rd/5th floor. Like I say, it doesn't really matter who. Did Mooney stay upstairs afterwards or go down front? Then there were deputies Faulkner

& Wiseman, possible candidates...

dcw

Mooney stayed after hollering down, and unlike Hill, he could tell whether or not anybody heard him. Mooney was heard.

Hill was heard. News people on the ground heard it and reported it...
"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository

building."

So, there are many people who could have told Sawyer, whether they came down from the 6th, 5th or 3rd floors, or whether they heard or misheard Mooney's hollering. I doubt that Hill went into the building at all. Maybe that's not

important to your 5th floor point, but I think it's the trut

Steve Pieringer was the only ground dweller who "heard" Jerry.

So he made it up on the spot and broadcast it? Just happens that photographs show Hill shouting down?

You realize that that this contemporaneous, corroborated and filmed event

"Filmed", ok. But without sound, there's nothing there. He may just have been saying that there's a "nest" over there. Well, yes, there was. Otherwise, it's just he said/he said.

Heard and reported over the air. Shells found at that location. Photo of cop pointing to that location. Right where shells were found

Or is it just a photo of a cop pointing to the "nest" they'd found? Big deal.

""Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."
Kills your ideas, Don.

My original post here kills that unattributed quote:

https://books.google.com/books?id=VpjrlVcB61IC&pg=PA14&lpg=PA14&dq=Jerry+Hill+of+the+Dallas+Police+Department+just+leaned+out+a+window+and+told+police+to+call+the+Dallas+crime+laboratory+to+the+scene.&source=bl&ots=rM7I8-KaRm&sig=ACfU3U2MwUcK-cjcz-

XYJypyRRfqmUAMVA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjThMT8uMSAAxWfF1kFHRn8CtUQ6AF6BAgjEAM#v=onepage&q=Jerry%20Hill%20of%20the%20Dallas%20Police%20Department%20just%20leaned%20out%20a%20window%20and%20told%20police%20to%20call%20the%20Dallas%20crime%20laboratory%20to%
20the%20scene.&f=false

It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the street

that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at 1:12, "
On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before Hill's,

he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In fact,
as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding of the
shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The Hill-Sawyer
connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn't really
matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."
Bud--when you find film or photo of Mooney leaning out a window calling for the Crime Lab, let me know.

I don`t know that he did.

He did. Sgt. Harkness heard him at 12:58 or 12:59 and reported it to the Crime Scene wagon. It's on the radio-log tapes.

Perhaps he mistook Hill for Mooney.

Try again. There were others on the floor with Mooney all of whom said that it was Mooney. Oddly enough, there don't seem to have been any other people on the floor with Hill. No one else mentions him or his shouting.

In any case, we have proof that Hill indicated the SN as the location shells were found.

I do do know that Hill did, that is established. And what he yelled down is established.

Well, then, he must have yelled down that the shells were found on the THIRD FLOOR. Because that's what Sawyer radioed at 1:12.

You can try to misdirect anywhere you like, it doesn`t change the fact that there is proof that Hill indicated shells were found in the SN. On the sixth floor. This kills your ideas.

You can't wriggle out of Sawyer's "third floor" right after Hill's shout.

dcw

And it absolutely destroys your ideas.

Sawyer's transmission destroys *yours*....

dcw

His understudy, Hill, seems pretty bogus, and redundant. (See above.) The Crime Lab responded immediately to Mooney's shout. Nobody responded to Hill.

What Hill did establishes where the shells were found.

dcw

(I guess a lucky guess by the reporter on the ground about the shells and the location, huh? Or "in on it" if your ideas require that).

Still trumps everything you guys have to offer.

is better than everything you have, right?

He "died" at the age of27. Coincidentally.

No coincidence that you idiots will contrive any reason to disregard information that goes against your silly ideas.

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On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 11:48:04 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirslick@fast.net>
wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:45:30?AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 5:13:59?AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:11:11?AM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:

Sgt. Hill reports to Insp. Sawyer re where the shells were actually found >>>>
It's about 1 o'clock. Sgt. Gerald Hill has just left the scene of the discovery of the spent shells, upstairs in the depository, after he has "yelled down to the street" about same, and--"not knowing or not getting any indication from the street

that they heard me"--he has then hustled, quick like a bunny, down to the front of the building. "I went over to tell Insp. Sawyer... I was talking to Insp. Sawyer, telling him what we found..." (v7p47) Sawyer then radios the police dispatcher, at 1:12, "
On the 3rd floor of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls."(CE 705p78)

As Sawyer testified, "This was reported to me by somebody inside the building." (v6p12) It was not shouted down to Sawyer--it was "reported", he states, to him. When Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney gave his shout down to the street, just before Hill's,

he saw several people, but, "except [for] the sheriff, they wasn't looking up." (v3p284) And Hill, upstairs, wasn't "reporting" to anyone in particular. He was just giving a general shout out, perhaps under hasty instructions from Capt. Fritz. In fact,
as he testified, there was no "indication from the street that they heard me." Apparently, Sawyer didn't hear--he goes with Hill's face-to-face "3rd floor", not with Hill's shout. Similarly, The Warren Report, the next year--in timing the finding of the
shells--goes with Sawyer's transmission's 1:12, not with Hill's earlier shout. Poor Hill--nobody listens to his yells. Finally, Sawyer hears from him directly. And the official story re the sixth floor quietly begins unwinding... The

Hill-Sawyer connection makes it the third-or-fifth-floor story, depending on whether Hill (and/or Sawyer) was counting up from the bottom or down from the top. Who else could have come down and reported to Sawyer between 1 and 1:12? Then again, it doesn'

t really matter who. The damage was done.

"This was REPORTED TO ME..."

dcw

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/9f/2b/e0/9f2be0cb4046c3f4d82a79b44192b43b.jpg

A newsman on the ground reported over the air at the time...

"Jerry Hill of the Dallas Police Department just leaned out a window and told police to call the Dallas crime laboratory to the scene. Apparently they've found some shells there in that room in the Texas School Book Depository building."

I addressed that incident,

This alone shoots your ideas down.

Of course, we know because Chickenshit asserted it, that when someone
makes an uncited empty claim like this, we know it to be a lie.

which incident both Sawyer and the Warren Report ignored, thank you. You may ignore it too now.

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