• Just Another One Of Those Driver-Shot-The-President Videos

    From Sky Throne 19efppp@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 29 19:01:24 2023
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sFHsAPr4R8

    When will these kooks just give it up?

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  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 30 04:49:13 2023
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:01:25 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sFHsAPr4R8

    When will these kooks just give it up?

    It's nonsense like this that makes research into this assassination more difficult.
    Crazy theories feed the hatred of the LN trolls, who tend to label anyone who is a legitimate critic of the WC
    in the same category as these nuts.

    Willam Cooper started all this bullshit by showing a bleached out version of the Zapruder film.
    This is why I don't get into the interpretation of pictures or videos.

    Greer didn't shoot the President, athough he might as well have.
    He slowed the limousine down and looked back twice and didn't speed up until after he saw Kennedy's head explode.
    https://gil-jesus.com/the-agents-in-the-limo/
    Greer didn't pull the trigger, but IMO he facilitated the assassination's success.

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  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 30 04:44:04 2023
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:01:25 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sFHsAPr4R8

    When will these kooks just give it up?

    It's nonsense like this that makes research into this assassination more difficult.
    Crazy theories feed the hatred of the LN trolls, who tend to label anyone who is a legitimate critic of the WC
    in the same category as these nuts.

    Willam Cooper started all this bullshit by showing a bleached out version of the Zapruder film.
    This is why I don't get into the interpretation of pictures or videos.

    Greer didn't shoot the President, aothugh he might as well have.
    He slowed the limousine down and looked back twice and didn't speed up until after he w\saw Kennedy's head explode.
    Greer didn't pull the trigger, but IMO he facilitated the assassination's success.

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 30 04:57:13 2023
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:01:25 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sFHsAPr4R8

    When will these kooks just give it up?

    Irony alert.

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Sun Jul 30 05:00:27 2023
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 7:49:15 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:01:25 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sFHsAPr4R8

    When will these kooks just give it up?
    It's nonsense like this that makes research into this assassination more difficult.

    How so?

    Crazy theories feed the hatred of the LN trolls, who tend to label anyone who is a legitimate critic of the WC

    Who might that be?

    in the same category as these nuts.

    You guys are a can of mixed nuts.

    Willam Cooper started all this bullshit by showing a bleached out version of the Zapruder film.
    This is why I don't get into the interpretation of pictures or videos.

    Greer didn't shoot the President, athough he might as well have.
    He slowed the limousine down and looked back twice and didn't speed up until after he saw Kennedy's head explode.
    https://gil-jesus.com/the-agents-in-the-limo/
    Greer didn't pull the trigger, but IMO he facilitated the assassination's success.

    It's always fun when the kooks start arguing over who is the kookiest.

    As the saying goes, in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

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  • From Steven Galbraith@21:1/5 to John Corbett on Sun Jul 30 09:12:37 2023
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 8:00:29 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 7:49:15 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:01:25 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sFHsAPr4R8

    When will these kooks just give it up?
    It's nonsense like this that makes research into this assassination more difficult.
    How so?
    Crazy theories feed the hatred of the LN trolls, who tend to label anyone who is a legitimate critic of the WC
    Who might that be?
    in the same category as these nuts.
    You guys are a can of mixed nuts.

    Willam Cooper started all this bullshit by showing a bleached out version of the Zapruder film.
    This is why I don't get into the interpretation of pictures or videos.

    Greer didn't shoot the President, athough he might as well have.
    He slowed the limousine down and looked back twice and didn't speed up until after he saw Kennedy's head explode.
    https://gil-jesus.com/the-agents-in-the-limo/
    Greer didn't pull the trigger, but IMO he facilitated the assassination's success.
    It's always fun when the kooks start arguing over who is the kookiest.

    As the saying goes, in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
    Greer facilitated that murder but he doesn't engage in speculation and besides, it's wrong to violate the "innocent until proven guilty" principle like the neo Nazi lone nutters do with Oswald. See, if we say Oswald was guilty we're Nazis. He can say
    Greer was involved and that's not un-American treatment of people.
    I won't even mention his claim that "the Russians got it right" in their investigation. See, I didn't mention it? No I didn't.

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Sun Jul 30 10:08:02 2023
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 12:27:07 PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 12:12:39 PM UTC-4, Steven Galbraith wrote:
    Greer facilitated that murder but he doesn't engage in speculation and besides, it's wrong to violate the "innocent until proven guilty" principle like the neo Nazi lone nutters do with Oswald. See, if we say Oswald was guilty we're Nazis. He can say
    Greer was involved and that's not un-American treatment of people.
    Dear Professor Numbnut:

    Thank you for your comparison of apples and oranges.

    I can say Greer facilitated the assassination's success because that's what the Zapruder film shows.

    Other kooks are saying it show Greer shooting Kennedy. Kooks will say kinds of things.

    https://gil-jesus.com/the-agents-in-the-limo/

    Now if you've got a film of Oswald shooting from the sixth floor, I'd be happy to admit his guilt as well.

    Otherwise, you're comparing video proof with speculation and opinion.
    Apples and oranges.

    For someone supposedly teaching a course on the Kennedy assassination, you REALLY don't know shit about it.

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  • From Steven Galbraith@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Sun Jul 30 10:13:44 2023
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 12:27:07 PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 12:12:39 PM UTC-4, Steven Galbraith wrote:
    Greer facilitated that murder but he doesn't engage in speculation and besides, it's wrong to violate the "innocent until proven guilty" principle like the neo Nazi lone nutters do with Oswald. See, if we say Oswald was guilty we're Nazis. He can say
    Greer was involved and that's not un-American treatment of people.
    Dear Professor Numbnut:

    Thank you for your comparison of apples and oranges.

    I can say Greer facilitated the assassination's success because that's what the Zapruder film shows.
    https://gil-jesus.com/the-agents-in-the-limo/

    Now if you've got a film of Oswald shooting from the sixth floor, I'd be happy to admit his guilt as well.

    Otherwise, you're comparing video proof with speculation and opinion.
    Apples and oranges.

    For someone supposedly teaching a course on the Kennedy assassination, you REALLY don't know shit about it.
    So your rule is when someone else says the evidence shows Oswald shot JFK they're violating the "innocent until proven guilty" principle.
    But you can violate the "innocent until proven guilty principle" - it's a principle not a option - because *your* evidence shows Greer was guilty.
    It's okay for you to do with everyone else but if someone says Oswald was guilty they're violating this principle. Even though, in violation of your other principle, Greer *never had a trial.* It's either a inviolable principle or it isn't. It can't be
    okay on one occasion and not okay on another.
    But intellectual consistency is not something you're good at.

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  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to Steven Galbraith on Sun Jul 30 09:27:05 2023
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 12:12:39 PM UTC-4, Steven Galbraith wrote:
    Greer facilitated that murder but he doesn't engage in speculation and besides, it's wrong to violate the "innocent until proven guilty" principle like the neo Nazi lone nutters do with Oswald. See, if we say Oswald was guilty we're Nazis. He can say
    Greer was involved and that's not un-American treatment of people.

    Dear Professor Numbnut:

    Thank you for your comparison of apples and oranges.

    I can say Greer facilitated the assassination's success because that's what the Zapruder film shows.
    https://gil-jesus.com/the-agents-in-the-limo/

    Now if you've got a film of Oswald shooting from the sixth floor, I'd be happy to admit his guilt as well.

    Otherwise, you're comparing video proof with speculation and opinion.
    Apples and oranges.

    For someone supposedly teaching a course on the Kennedy assassination, you REALLY don't know shit about it.

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Sun Jul 30 11:54:56 2023
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 12:27:07 PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 12:12:39 PM UTC-4, Steven Galbraith wrote:
    Greer facilitated that murder but he doesn't engage in speculation and besides, it's wrong to violate the "innocent until proven guilty" principle like the neo Nazi lone nutters do with Oswald. See, if we say Oswald was guilty we're Nazis. He can say
    Greer was involved and that's not un-American treatment of people.
    Dear Professor Numbnut:

    Thank you for your comparison of apples and oranges.

    I can say Greer facilitated the assassination's success because that's what the Zapruder film shows.
    https://gil-jesus.com/the-agents-in-the-limo/

    OK. So now we no longer have to have a criminal conviction to determine a person is guilty
    of a crime. If we have sufficient evidence that a person has committed a crime, we are free
    to declare that person guilty. That is what the LNs have done with Oswald. Nice to know we
    have your blessing to do so at long last.

    Now if you've got a film of Oswald shooting from the sixth floor, I'd be happy to admit his guilt as well.

    Otherwise, you're comparing video proof with speculation and opinion.
    Apples and oranges.

    You have video proof that Greer slowed the limo down. What you don't have is evidence he did
    so to make for an easy kill shot. Greer testified that he thought the shots might have come from
    the overpass and he might be driving into an ambush. If you have proof that wasn't his reason,
    by all means present it. Otherwise, you are giving Greer a presumption of guilt.

    For someone supposedly teaching a course on the Kennedy assassination, you REALLY don't know shit about it.

    For someone who claims to be a researcher, you don't have the mental acuity for it.

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to John Corbett on Sun Jul 30 13:13:59 2023
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 2:54:58 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 12:27:07 PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 12:12:39 PM UTC-4, Steven Galbraith wrote:
    Greer facilitated that murder but he doesn't engage in speculation and besides, it's wrong to violate the "innocent until proven guilty" principle like the neo Nazi lone nutters do with Oswald. See, if we say Oswald was guilty we're Nazis. He can
    say Greer was involved and that's not un-American treatment of people.
    Dear Professor Numbnut:

    Thank you for your comparison of apples and oranges.

    I can say Greer facilitated the assassination's success because that's what the Zapruder film shows.
    https://gil-jesus.com/the-agents-in-the-limo/
    OK. So now we no longer have to have a criminal conviction to determine a person is guilty
    of a crime. If we have sufficient evidence that a person has committed a crime, we are free
    to declare that person guilty. That is what the LNs have done with Oswald. Nice to know we
    have your blessing to do so at long last.

    Now if you've got a film of Oswald shooting from the sixth floor, I'd be happy to admit his guilt as well.

    Otherwise, you're comparing video proof with speculation and opinion. Apples and oranges.

    You have video proof that Greer slowed the limo down. What you don't have is evidence he did
    so to make for an easy kill shot. Greer testified that he thought the shots might have come from
    the overpass and he might be driving into an ambush. If you have proof that wasn't his reason,
    by all means present it. Otherwise, you are giving Greer a presumption of guilt.

    He doesn`t realize that he is only offering his speculation and opinion about what he thinks the film shows.

    He hasn`t shown that it is easier to hit and target that is stopping and starting than a target moving at a steady, slow speed. And imagine all the effort put into this conspiracy and they get a shooter who can only targets that are still.

    For someone supposedly teaching a course on the Kennedy assassination, you REALLY don't know shit about it.
    For someone who claims to be a researcher, you don't have the mental acuity for it.

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Bud on Sun Jul 30 14:11:28 2023
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:14:01 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

    He hasn`t shown that it is easier to hit and target that is stopping and starting than a target moving at a steady, slow speed. And imagine all the effort put into this conspiracy and they get a shooter who can only targets that are still.

    If this had been a sophisticated plot, it's doubtful they would have chosen to take out JFK while
    he was riding in a motorcade. Too many variables. In addition to the moving target, suppose it
    had continued to rain that day and the bubble top or the ragtop been put on the limo. The
    bubble top was not bulletproof but still could have been problematic as it could cause a deflection.
    Dealey Plaza was not a good choice of locations. Oswald didn't choose Dealey Plaza. It's the
    only option he had unless he wanted to move around downtown Dallas carrying a rifle, looking
    for a good place to take his shot. Due to random chance, he didn't have to go looking for JFK.
    JFK was coming to him and he took full advantage.

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Bud on Sun Jul 30 14:04:16 2023
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:14:01 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 2:54:58 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 12:27:07 PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 12:12:39 PM UTC-4, Steven Galbraith wrote:
    Greer facilitated that murder but he doesn't engage in speculation and besides, it's wrong to violate the "innocent until proven guilty" principle like the neo Nazi lone nutters do with Oswald. See, if we say Oswald was guilty we're Nazis. He can
    say Greer was involved and that's not un-American treatment of people.
    Dear Professor Numbnut:

    Thank you for your comparison of apples and oranges.

    I can say Greer facilitated the assassination's success because that's what the Zapruder film shows.
    https://gil-jesus.com/the-agents-in-the-limo/
    OK. So now we no longer have to have a criminal conviction to determine a person is guilty
    of a crime. If we have sufficient evidence that a person has committed a crime, we are free
    to declare that person guilty. That is what the LNs have done with Oswald. Nice to know we
    have your blessing to do so at long last.

    Now if you've got a film of Oswald shooting from the sixth floor, I'd be happy to admit his guilt as well.

    Otherwise, you're comparing video proof with speculation and opinion. Apples and oranges.

    You have video proof that Greer slowed the limo down. What you don't have is evidence he did
    so to make for an easy kill shot. Greer testified that he thought the shots might have come from
    the overpass and he might be driving into an ambush. If you have proof that wasn't his reason,
    by all means present it. Otherwise, you are giving Greer a presumption of guilt.
    He doesn`t realize that he is only offering his speculation and opinion about what he thinks the film shows.

    He hasn`t shown that it is easier to hit and target that is stopping and starting than a target moving at a steady, slow speed. And imagine all the effort put into this conspiracy and they get a shooter who can only targets that are still.

    That was going to be my next point. Any quarterback will tell you the worst thing a receiver can
    do is slow down when running a route because the quarterback is anticipating he will continue
    to run at top speed and lead him accordingly. When the receiver doesn't turn on the jets after
    coming out of his break, the result is usually an overthrow.

    In Oswald's case, the slowing of the limo made little difference because the target was moving
    slowly to begin and was moving almost directly away from him. Little lead was needed. It was
    a fairly easy shot whether Greer slowed the limo down or not.

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to John Corbett on Sun Jul 30 14:47:57 2023
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 5:11:30 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:14:01 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

    He hasn`t shown that it is easier to hit and target that is stopping and starting than a target moving at a steady, slow speed. And imagine all the effort put into this conspiracy and they get a shooter who can only targets that are still.
    If this had been a sophisticated plot, it's doubtful they would have chosen to take out JFK while
    he was riding in a motorcade. Too many variables.

    Yes, had he slumped down after being hit with the first shot he likely would have survived.

    Surprising that Gil doesn`t see JFK staying upright as him being in on the assassination.

    In addition to the moving target, suppose it
    had continued to rain that day and the bubble top or the ragtop been put on the limo. The
    bubble top was not bulletproof but still could have been problematic as it could cause a deflection.

    Also there is the problem of refraction, making the apparent location of the target different from the actual one. Also glare, like these photos of the bubble top show...

    https://i.pinimg.com/564x/4a/b6/8c/4ab68c81918c442b12b6803c98ab7569.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/564x/17/ab/65/17ab65a72239479e183f7eb4cb7545ab.jpg

    Had the bubble top been on they might have buried Jackie instead of Jack.

    Dealey Plaza was not a good choice of locations. Oswald didn't choose Dealey Plaza. It's the
    only option he had unless he wanted to move around downtown Dallas carrying a rifle, looking
    for a good place to take his shot. Due to random chance, he didn't have to go looking for JFK.
    JFK was coming to him and he took full advantage.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to geowright1963@gmail.com on Mon Jul 31 07:41:14 2023
    On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 14:11:28 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <geowright1963@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:14:01?PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

    He hasn`t shown that it is easier to hit and target that is stopping and starting than a target moving at a steady, slow speed. And imagine all the effort put into this conspiracy and they get a shooter who can only targets that are still.

    If this had been a sophisticated plot, it's doubtful they would have chosen to take out JFK while
    he was riding in a motorcade.

    And your expertise to make such a claim is what, exactly?

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Bud on Mon Jul 31 12:17:26 2023
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 5:47:59 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 5:11:30 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:14:01 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

    He hasn`t shown that it is easier to hit and target that is stopping and starting than a target moving at a steady, slow speed. And imagine all the effort put into this conspiracy and they get a shooter who can only targets that are still.
    If this had been a sophisticated plot, it's doubtful they would have chosen to take out JFK while
    he was riding in a motorcade. Too many variables.
    Yes, had he slumped down after being hit with the first shot he likely would have survived.

    Surprising that Gil doesn`t see JFK staying upright as him being in on the assassination.
    In addition to the moving target, suppose it
    had continued to rain that day and the bubble top or the ragtop been put on the limo. The
    bubble top was not bulletproof but still could have been problematic as it could cause a deflection.
    Also there is the problem of refraction, making the apparent location of the target different from the actual one. Also glare, like these photos of the bubble top show...

    https://i.pinimg.com/564x/4a/b6/8c/4ab68c81918c442b12b6803c98ab7569.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/564x/17/ab/65/17ab65a72239479e183f7eb4cb7545ab.jpg

    I'm curious about the second photo. Jackie's outfit looks similar to the one she was wearing
    the day before in San Antonio and Houston but this is the first color photo I've seen. I'm
    wondering if that is from the day before the assassination.

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  • From BT George@21:1/5 to John Corbett on Mon Jul 31 12:37:28 2023
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 6:57:15 AM UTC-5, John Corbett wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:01:25 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sFHsAPr4R8

    When will these kooks just give it up?
    Irony alert.

    Agreed. Though I do put the "driver" people did it, with the "Aliens did it" people. ...The dude on a FaceBook group who once had the theory that JFK wasn't "really" killed, but was the "Antichrist whose deadly wound was healed" (Rev. 13:3)--and would
    one day return to deceive the masses--in a loon-scape category all it's own!

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Mon Jul 31 12:36:43 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 10:41:23 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 05:00:27 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
    <geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 7:49:15?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:01:25?PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sFHsAPr4R8

    When will these kooks just give it up?
    It's nonsense like this that makes research into this assassination more difficult.

    How so?
    Corbutt's a Chickenshit sock puppet.

    <snicker> The kooks hate the "How so?" They usually can`t say.

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to John Corbett on Mon Jul 31 12:35:26 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 3:17:28 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 5:47:59 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 5:11:30 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 4:14:01 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:

    He hasn`t shown that it is easier to hit and target that is stopping and starting than a target moving at a steady, slow speed. And imagine all the effort put into this conspiracy and they get a shooter who can only targets that are still.
    If this had been a sophisticated plot, it's doubtful they would have chosen to take out JFK while
    he was riding in a motorcade. Too many variables.
    Yes, had he slumped down after being hit with the first shot he likely would have survived.

    Surprising that Gil doesn`t see JFK staying upright as him being in on the assassination.
    In addition to the moving target, suppose it
    had continued to rain that day and the bubble top or the ragtop been put on the limo. The
    bubble top was not bulletproof but still could have been problematic as it could cause a deflection.
    Also there is the problem of refraction, making the apparent location of the target different from the actual one. Also glare, like these photos of the bubble top show...

    https://i.pinimg.com/564x/4a/b6/8c/4ab68c81918c442b12b6803c98ab7569.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/564x/17/ab/65/17ab65a72239479e183f7eb4cb7545ab.jpg

    I'm curious about the second photo. Jackie's outfit looks similar to the one she was wearing
    the day before in San Antonio and Houston but this is the first color photo I've seen. I'm
    wondering if that is from the day before the assassination.

    I lifted it from pinterest. The caption reads...

    "Clint Hill, with the Kennedys, earlier in the Kennedy Presidency. The Presidential limousine was outfitted with it's 'bubble-top' that day. Hill is to the far right in the foreground."

    Here is a link to the page...

    https://www.pinterest.com/daviddisiere/john-f-kennedy-presidential-limousine-photos-of-19/

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to BT George on Mon Jul 31 12:53:54 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 3:37:30 PM UTC-4, BT George wrote:
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 6:57:15 AM UTC-5, John Corbett wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:01:25 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sFHsAPr4R8

    When will these kooks just give it up?
    Irony alert.
    Agreed. Though I do put the "driver" people did it, with the "Aliens did it" people. ...The dude on a FaceBook group who once had the theory that JFK wasn't "really" killed, but was the "Antichrist whose deadly wound was healed" (Rev. 13:3)--and would
    one day return to deceive the masses--in a loon-scape category all it's own!

    Sounds like he'd fit right in here. Just one of the boys.

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  • From BT George@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Mon Jul 31 13:21:17 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 3:16:42 PM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 12:53:54 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
    <geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Sounds like he'd fit right in here. Just one of the boys.
    Can you name this logical fallacy?

    The "TPAT" (Too-Painful-A-Truth) fallacy!?!

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to geowright1963@gmail.com on Mon Jul 31 13:16:40 2023
    On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 12:53:54 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <geowright1963@gmail.com> wrote:

    Sounds like he'd fit right in here. Just one of the boys.

    Can you name this logical fallacy?

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 3 07:00:28 2023
    On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 12:36:43 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirslick@fast.net>
    wrote:

    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 10:41:23?AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 05:00:27 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
    <geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 7:49:15?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:01:25?PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote: >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sFHsAPr4R8

    When will these kooks just give it up?
    It's nonsense like this that makes research into this assassination more difficult.

    How so?
    Corbutt's a Chickenshit sock puppet.

    <snicker> The kooks hate the "How so?" They usually can`t say.

    Why are you whining? You trolls have accused others of being my sock
    puppet based on FAR less evidence...

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