(48) Oswald lied about living at the place where the picture with the
rifle was taken.
This is, of course, hearsay. We don't KNOW what Oswald said during interrogations, because no record was ever kept. Nor did anyone first
admit to taking any notes - although some notes later showed up.
On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 2:47:34 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
(48) Oswald lied about living at the place where the picture with the rifle was taken.
This is, of course, hearsay. We don't KNOW what Oswald said during interrogations, because no record was ever kept. Nor did anyone first admit to taking any notes - although some notes later showed up.Precisely. Anything the police said he said would have been inadmissable in a trial.
They could have avoided that by transcribing or recording the interrogation sessions, but they didn't want it in the public record that
they continued to question Oswald after he had "lawyered up". And by not recording it, it allowed them to say Oswald said whatever.
Anything Marina said would have been inadmissable.
The entire Walker shooting would have been inadmissable.
What she said about the backyard photographs would have been inadmissable.
Anything she said about the weapons would have been inadmissable.
All of her testimony would have been thrown out.
Any identifications of Oswald from the police lineups would have been thrown out.
Jurors would have been informed that much of the evidence in the case was never identified
by the people who found it.
That includes the rifle.
That includes the rifle shells.
That includes the Tippit shells.
That includes CE 399.
If the case went forward, jurors would have been informed that the prosecution failed to prove:
Oswald picked up the rifle at the Dallas Post Office.
Oswald took a 38 inch package to work on the morning of November 22nd, 1963. Oswald brought a 38 inch package into the building.
Oswald constructed the 38 inch paper "gunsack".
The "gunsack" ever contained a rifle.
The rifle was fired on Nov. 22nd.
Oswald fired the rifle.
That the rifle was capable of committing the crime.
Oswald knew in advance that the motorcade would pass in front of his place of work.
Oswald was on the sixth floor at the time of the shooting.
That the handgun was ever shipped.
Oswald picked up the handgun at the REA Express office.
Oswald pulled the trigger and the handgun misfired in the Texas Theater.
The bullets that killed Officer Tippit came from the handgun in evidence. Oswald went to Irving on the evening of the 21st to retrieve a rifle.
CE 399 was the "stretcher bullet".
Oswald had any animosity towards the President.
That Oswald planned the assassination in advance.
The Commission's mandate was to present the evidence as "such that he would have been convicted at trial". ( FBI file # 62-109060, Sec. 18, pg. 29 )
In order to do that required the Commission to follow rules of judicial process and they clearly deviated from that.
And I have no problem pointing that out.
Now, Lone Nutters, make your case against Oswald sans the evidence listed.
On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 15:05:08 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 4:57:56?PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 2:47:34?PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
(48) Oswald lied about living at the place where the picture with the >>> rifle was taken.Precisely. Anything the police said he said would have been inadmissable in a trial.
This is, of course, hearsay. We don't KNOW what Oswald said during
interrogations, because no record was ever kept. Nor did anyone first >>> admit to taking any notes - although some notes later showed up.
They could have avoided that by transcribing or recording the interrogation sessions, but they didn't want it in the public record that
they continued to question Oswald after he had "lawyered up". And by not recording it, it allowed them to say Oswald said whatever.
Anything Marina said would have been inadmissable.
Which is no reason to ignore it in 2023, unless you are looking for excuses to exonerate Oswald.Not a refutation.
Indeed, you simply didn't address it at all.
The entire Walker shooting would have been inadmissable.
Completely unnecessary to proving Oswald shot and killed JFK and JDT.Then the WC shouldn't have included it.
But they did... proving YOU a
liar.
What she said about the backyard photographs would have been inadmissable.
It wouldn't have been necessary to prove they were authentic. A photo analyst could have doneThen do it.
that.
But you won't. You're a coward.
Anything she said about the weapons would have been inadmissable.
Why does that matter...
The truth matters.
All of her testimony would have been thrown out.
We don't have to ...
You can't live without it.
Logical fallacy deleted.Any identifications of Oswald from the police lineups would have been thrown out.
Jurors would have been informed that much of the evidence in the case was never identified
by the people who found it.
That includes the rifle.
That includes the rifle shells.
That includes the Tippit shells.
That includes CE 399.
If the case went forward, jurors would have been informed that the prosecution failed to prove:
Oswald picked up the rifle at the Dallas Post Office.
Oswald took a 38 inch package to work on the morning of November 22nd, 1963.
Oswald brought a 38 inch package into the building.
Oswald constructed the 38 inch paper "gunsack".
The "gunsack" ever contained a rifle.
The rifle was fired on Nov. 22nd.
Oswald fired the rifle.
That the rifle was capable of committing the crime.
Oswald knew in advance that the motorcade would pass in front of his place of work.
Oswald was on the sixth floor at the time of the shooting.
That the handgun was ever shipped.
Oswald picked up the handgun at the REA Express office.
Oswald pulled the trigger and the handgun misfired in the Texas Theater. >> The bullets that killed Officer Tippit came from the handgun in evidence. >> Oswald went to Irving on the evening of the 21st to retrieve a rifle.
CE 399 was the "stretcher bullet".
Oswald had any animosity towards the President.
That Oswald planned the assassination in advance.
Nice try...
So nice indeed, that you were flustered by the facts.
Logical fallacy deleted.The Commission's mandate was to present the evidence as "such that he would have been convicted at trial". ( FBI file # 62-109060, Sec. 18, pg. 29 )
Logical fallacy deleted.In order to do that required the Commission to follow rules of judicial process and they clearly deviated from that.
And I have no problem pointing that out.
Now, Lone Nutters, make your case against Oswald sans the evidence listed.
We are not restricted...
And yet, you can't convince the American people.
You lose.
On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 4:57:56?PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 2:47:34?PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
(48) Oswald lied about living at the place where the picture with thePrecisely. Anything the police said he said would have been inadmissable in a trial.
rifle was taken.
This is, of course, hearsay. We don't KNOW what Oswald said during
interrogations, because no record was ever kept. Nor did anyone first
admit to taking any notes - although some notes later showed up.
They could have avoided that by transcribing or recording the interrogation sessions, but they didn't want it in the public record that
they continued to question Oswald after he had "lawyered up". And by not recording it, it allowed them to say Oswald said whatever.
Anything Marina said would have been inadmissable.
Which is no reason to ignore it in 2023, unless you are looking for excuses to exonerate Oswald.
The entire Walker shooting would have been inadmissable.
Completely unnecessary to proving Oswald shot and killed JFK and JDT.
What she said about the backyard photographs would have been inadmissable.
It wouldn't have been necessary to prove they were authentic. A photo analyst could have done
that.
Anything she said about the weapons would have been inadmissable.
Why does that matter...
All of her testimony would have been thrown out.
We don't have to ...
Any identifications of Oswald from the police lineups would have been thrown out.
Jurors would have been informed that much of the evidence in the case was never identified
by the people who found it.
That includes the rifle.
That includes the rifle shells.
That includes the Tippit shells.
That includes CE 399.
If the case went forward, jurors would have been informed that the prosecution failed to prove:
Oswald picked up the rifle at the Dallas Post Office.
Oswald took a 38 inch package to work on the morning of November 22nd, 1963. >> Oswald brought a 38 inch package into the building.
Oswald constructed the 38 inch paper "gunsack".
The "gunsack" ever contained a rifle.
The rifle was fired on Nov. 22nd.
Oswald fired the rifle.
That the rifle was capable of committing the crime.
Oswald knew in advance that the motorcade would pass in front of his place of work.
Oswald was on the sixth floor at the time of the shooting.
That the handgun was ever shipped.
Oswald picked up the handgun at the REA Express office.
Oswald pulled the trigger and the handgun misfired in the Texas Theater.
The bullets that killed Officer Tippit came from the handgun in evidence.
Oswald went to Irving on the evening of the 21st to retrieve a rifle.
CE 399 was the "stretcher bullet".
Oswald had any animosity towards the President.
That Oswald planned the assassination in advance.
Nice try...
The Commission's mandate was to present the evidence as "such that he would have been convicted at trial". ( FBI file # 62-109060, Sec. 18, pg. 29 )
In order to do that required the Commission to follow rules of judicial process and they clearly deviated from that.
And I have no problem pointing that out.
Now, Lone Nutters, make your case against Oswald sans the evidence listed.
We are not restricted...
On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 6:23:10 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 15:05:08 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 4:57:56?PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 2:47:34?PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
(48) Oswald lied about living at the place where the picture with the >>> rifle was taken.Precisely. Anything the police said he said would have been inadmissable in a trial.
This is, of course, hearsay. We don't KNOW what Oswald said during
interrogations, because no record was ever kept. Nor did anyone first >>> admit to taking any notes - although some notes later showed up.
They could have avoided that by transcribing or recording the interrogation sessions, but they didn't want it in the public record that
they continued to question Oswald after he had "lawyered up". And by not recording it, it allowed them to say Oswald said whatever.
Anything Marina said would have been inadmissable.
Explain how the trial Gil is conducting in his head can be "refuted". >Indeed, you simply didn't address it at all.Which is no reason to ignore it in 2023, unless you are looking for excuses to exonerate Oswald.Not a refutation.
Sure he did. He pointed out there was no trial, and that trial standards are irrelevant.
The entire Walker shooting would have been inadmissable.
Why not?Completely unnecessary to proving Oswald shot and killed JFK and JDT. Then the WC shouldn't have included it.
But they did... proving YOU a
liar.
What she said about the backyard photographs would have been inadmissable.
Why? Has anyone given any real support to the idea they were faked?It wouldn't have been necessary to prove they were authentic. A photo analyst could have doneThen do it.
that.
But you won't. You're a coward.
Anything she said about the weapons would have been inadmissable.
Why does that matter...
The truth matters.
All of her testimony would have been thrown out.
We don't have to ...
You can't live without it.You hate the insight she gave about her murderous husbands activities.
Logical fallacy deleted.Any identifications of Oswald from the police lineups would have been thrown out.
Jurors would have been informed that much of the evidence in the case was never identified
by the people who found it.
That includes the rifle.
That includes the rifle shells.
That includes the Tippit shells.
That includes CE 399.
If the case went forward, jurors would have been informed that the prosecution failed to prove:
Oswald picked up the rifle at the Dallas Post Office.
Oswald took a 38 inch package to work on the morning of November 22nd, 1963.
Oswald brought a 38 inch package into the building.
Oswald constructed the 38 inch paper "gunsack".
The "gunsack" ever contained a rifle.
The rifle was fired on Nov. 22nd.
Oswald fired the rifle.
That the rifle was capable of committing the crime.
Oswald knew in advance that the motorcade would pass in front of his place of work.
Oswald was on the sixth floor at the time of the shooting.
That the handgun was ever shipped.
Oswald picked up the handgun at the REA Express office.
Oswald pulled the trigger and the handgun misfired in the Texas Theater.
The bullets that killed Officer Tippit came from the handgun in evidence.
Oswald went to Irving on the evening of the 21st to retrieve a rifle. >> CE 399 was the "stretcher bullet".
Oswald had any animosity towards the President.
That Oswald planned the assassination in advance.
Nice try...
So nice indeed, that you were flustered by the facts.
Logical fallacy deleted.The Commission's mandate was to present the evidence as "such that he would have been convicted at trial". ( FBI file # 62-109060, Sec. 18, pg. 29 )
Logical fallacy deleted.In order to do that required the Commission to follow rules of judicial process and they clearly deviated from that.
And I have no problem pointing that out.
Now, Lone Nutters, make your case against Oswald sans the evidence listed.
We are not restricted...
And yet, you can't convince the American people.Who cares what they think?
About 1/3 of Americans believe aliens have visited the earth and up to 77% think it may have
happened.
People choose to believe fantastic things because the truth is usually much more
boring. Who wants to believe JFK was taken out by some lowly paid unskilled laborer when it's
much more interesting to believe it was elements of our own government who resorted to
staging a coup d'etat?
On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 6:23:10?PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 15:05:08 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 4:57:56?PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:Not a refutation.
On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 2:47:34?PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
(48) Oswald lied about living at the place where the picture with the >>>>> rifle was taken.Precisely. Anything the police said he said would have been inadmissable in a trial.
This is, of course, hearsay. We don't KNOW what Oswald said during
interrogations, because no record was ever kept. Nor did anyone first >>>>> admit to taking any notes - although some notes later showed up.
They could have avoided that by transcribing or recording the interrogation sessions, but they didn't want it in the public record that
they continued to question Oswald after he had "lawyered up". And by not recording it, it allowed them to say Oswald said whatever.
Anything Marina said would have been inadmissable.
Which is no reason to ignore it in 2023, unless you are looking for excuses to exonerate Oswald.
Indeed, you simply didn't address it at all.
Then the WC shouldn't have included it.The entire Walker shooting would have been inadmissable.
Completely unnecessary to proving Oswald shot and killed JFK and JDT.
But they did... proving YOU a liar.
What she said about the backyard photographs would have been inadmissable. >>>It wouldn't have been necessary to prove they were authentic. A photo analyst could have done
that.
Then do it.
Why?
But you won't. You're a coward.
Anything she said about the weapons would have been inadmissable.
Why does that matter...
The truth matters.
All of her testimony would have been thrown out.
We don't have to ...
You can't live without it.
Logical fallacy deleted.Any identifications of Oswald from the police lineups would have been thrown out.
Jurors would have been informed that much of the evidence in the case was never identified
by the people who found it.
That includes the rifle.
That includes the rifle shells.
That includes the Tippit shells.
That includes CE 399.
If the case went forward, jurors would have been informed that the prosecution failed to prove:
Oswald picked up the rifle at the Dallas Post Office.
Oswald took a 38 inch package to work on the morning of November 22nd, 1963.
Oswald brought a 38 inch package into the building.
Oswald constructed the 38 inch paper "gunsack".
The "gunsack" ever contained a rifle.
The rifle was fired on Nov. 22nd.
Oswald fired the rifle.
That the rifle was capable of committing the crime.
Oswald knew in advance that the motorcade would pass in front of his place of work.
Oswald was on the sixth floor at the time of the shooting.
That the handgun was ever shipped.
Oswald picked up the handgun at the REA Express office.
Oswald pulled the trigger and the handgun misfired in the Texas Theater. >>>> The bullets that killed Officer Tippit came from the handgun in evidence. >>>> Oswald went to Irving on the evening of the 21st to retrieve a rifle.
CE 399 was the "stretcher bullet".
Oswald had any animosity towards the President.
That Oswald planned the assassination in advance.
Nice try...
So nice indeed, that you were flustered by the facts.
Logical fallacy deleted.The Commission's mandate was to present the evidence as "such that he would have been convicted at trial". ( FBI file # 62-109060, Sec. 18, pg. 29 )
Logical fallacy deleted.In order to do that required the Commission to follow rules of judicial process and they clearly deviated from that.
And I have no problem pointing that out.We are not restricted...
Now, Lone Nutters, make your case against Oswald sans the evidence listed. >>>
And yet, you can't convince the American people.
You lose.
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