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On August 1, 1966, less than three years after Oswald shot and killed JFK from his 6th floor perch in the TSBD, another ex-Marine sent to the top of
a tower on the University of Texas campus in Austin and opened fired on unsuspecting victims below. His name was Charles Whitman. He had killed
his mother earlier and another of his victims was killed near the entrance to
the observation tower, but most of his victims were shot on the ground,
some of them blocks away from the tower. Whitman's best score while a
Marine was 213, just three points better than Oswald. He shot over 40
people before himself being shot and killed himself. He shot his victims from much greater distances than Oswald shot JFK from. In the movie Full Metal Jacket, Seargent Hartmann, brilliantly played by former Marine Corps Gunnery Seargent R. Lee Ermey, bragged about the shooting prowess of
both Oswald and Whitman. While neither was exceptional by USMC
standards, both were more than capable of carrying out the murders they
are alleged to have committed.
One other point, by Gil's standards, we can't conclude that Whitman was guilty of killing 15 people and wounding 33 others because he was never tried for those crimes. I guess it will have to remain a mystery as to who shot
all those people.
I used to maintain a thread called the Benny Tracker, and I'd update
it from time-to-time with the wit and wisdom of Ben Holmes. Early on,
I didn't source the threads for his comments. I got smarter about it
later and always made sure to accompany Ben's posts I was referencing
with the title of the thread they were found at.
Here's post 112 from the series with Ben commenting on the post-Marine Corps lives of Whitman and Oswald:
One other point, by Gil's standards, we can't conclude that Whitman was >guilty of killing 15 people and wounding 33 others because he was never
tried for those crimes. I guess it will have to remain a mystery as to who shot
all those people.
On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 12:54:41 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler <chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
I used to maintain a thread called the Benny Tracker, and I'd updateThat's because you got embarrassed at me constantly pointing out your
it from time-to-time with the wit and wisdom of Ben Holmes. Early on,
I didn't source the threads for his comments. I got smarter about it
later and always made sure to accompany Ben's posts I was referencing
with the title of the thread they were found at.
lies.
Here's post 112 from the series with Ben commenting on the post-Marine Corps lives of Whitman and Oswald:Whitman lived until age 25 and had an honorable discharge. Oswald was
killed at age 24 and had an undesirable discharge. Therefore, Whitman
led the better life, having another year of it, as well as an
honorable discharge from the Corps.
And amusingly, Chuckles had **NOTHING** to refute this with.
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 3:11:55?PM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 12:54:41 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
<chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
I used to maintain a thread called the Benny Tracker, and I'd updateThat's because you got embarrassed at me constantly pointing out your
it from time-to-time with the wit and wisdom of Ben Holmes. Early on,
I didn't source the threads for his comments. I got smarter about it
later and always made sure to accompany Ben's posts I was referencing
with the title of the thread they were found at.
lies.
Here's post 112 from the series with Ben commenting on the post-Marine Corps lives of Whitman and Oswald:Whitman lived until age 25 and had an honorable discharge. Oswald was
killed at age 24 and had an undesirable discharge. Therefore, Whitman
led the better life, having another year of it, as well as an
honorable discharge from the Corps.
And amusingly, Chuckles had **NOTHING** to refute this with.
Because it's just your opinion on something subjective.
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 4:14:50 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
And by asserting what Gil's opinion would be in such wacky terms, all you're doing is showing how dishonest *YOU* are.
You've not shown anything about Gil.He wasn't successful attacking me in the "wife testifying against her husband" thread
and ended up being embarrassed and so he's trying to attack me again.
All this guy does is make false claims.
I'm not surprised. He's a loser.
And by asserting what Gil's opinion would be in such wacky terms, all
you're doing is showing how dishonest *YOU* are.
You've not shown anything about Gil.
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On August 1, 1966, less than three years after Oswald shot and killed JFK from his 6th floor perch in the TSBD, another ex-Marine sent to the top of
a tower on the University of Texas campus in Austin and opened fired on unsuspecting victims below. His name was Charles Whitman. He had killed
his mother earlier and another of his victims was killed near the entrance to
the observation tower, but most of his victims were shot on the ground,
some of them blocks away from the tower. Whitman's best score while a
Marine was 213, just three points better than Oswald. He shot over 40
people before himself being shot and killed himself. He shot his victims from much greater distances than Oswald shot JFK from. In the movie Full Metal Jacket, Seargent Hartmann, brilliantly played by former Marine Corps Gunnery Seargent R. Lee Ermey, bragged about the shooting prowess of
both Oswald and Whitman. While neither was exceptional by USMC
standards, both were more than capable of carrying out the murders they
are alleged to have committed.
One other point, by Gil's standards, we can't conclude that Whitman was guilty of killing 15 people and wounding 33 others because he was never tried for those crimes. I guess it will have to remain a mystery as to who shot
all those people.
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 4:28:56?PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 4:14:50?PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
And by asserting what Gil's opinion would be in such wacky terms, allHe wasn't successful attacking me in the "wife testifying against her husband" thread
you're doing is showing how dishonest *YOU* are.
You've not shown anything about Gil.
and ended up being embarrassed and so he's trying to attack me again.
All this guy does is make false claims.
I'm not surprised. He's a loser.
Coming from you, Gil, I take that as a compliment. I would be embarrassed if someone like you
thought highly of me.
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 3:43:43 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:you collected all the police statements made to the public, and all the newspaper accounts, examined all the photos and film of the event, ect (I`m sticking with "ect" Chuck, so people will know it`s me). Then you had thousands of hobbyists spending
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On August 1, 1966, less than three years after Oswald shot and killed JFK from his 6th floor perch in the TSBD, another ex-Marine sent to the top of a tower on the University of Texas campus in Austin and opened fired on unsuspecting victims below. His name was Charles Whitman. He had killed his mother earlier and another of his victims was killed near the entrance to
the observation tower, but most of his victims were shot on the ground, some of them blocks away from the tower. Whitman's best score while a Marine was 213, just three points better than Oswald. He shot over 40 people before himself being shot and killed himself. He shot his victims from much greater distances than Oswald shot JFK from. In the movie Full Metal Jacket, Seargent Hartmann, brilliantly played by former Marine Corps Gunnery Seargent R. Lee Ermey, bragged about the shooting prowess of
both Oswald and Whitman. While neither was exceptional by USMC
standards, both were more than capable of carrying out the murders they are alleged to have committed.
One other point, by Gil's standards, we can't conclude that Whitman was guilty of killing 15 people and wounding 33 others because he was never tried for those crimes. I guess it will have to remain a mystery as to who shotWhich raises another point. There were hundreds, perhaps thousands of witnesses to this crime. Let`s say you got a statement from most of these people. Then you questioned the doctors who worked on the victims, and you examined all the autopsies. Then
all those people.
Corbett: "The standard CT ploy. Find any little inconsistency and attribute it to a conspiracy."
Gil: "There shouldn't be inconsistencies. Period. That's the whole point."
In Gil`s world all the information should mesh perfectly. Gil is an idiot.
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 6:09:15 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:Then you collected all the police statements made to the public, and all the newspaper accounts, examined all the photos and film of the event, ect (I`m sticking with "ect" Chuck, so people will know it`s me). Then you had thousands of hobbyists spending
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 3:43:43 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-tower-bloodbath-ex-marine-turned-sniper-killed-15-and-wounded-33-fpd-case-vault/ar-AA1enXIc?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=cae25eb9bffd436f80a616e81e558373&ei=14
On August 1, 1966, less than three years after Oswald shot and killed JFK
from his 6th floor perch in the TSBD, another ex-Marine sent to the top of
a tower on the University of Texas campus in Austin and opened fired on unsuspecting victims below. His name was Charles Whitman. He had killed his mother earlier and another of his victims was killed near the entrance to
the observation tower, but most of his victims were shot on the ground, some of them blocks away from the tower. Whitman's best score while a Marine was 213, just three points better than Oswald. He shot over 40 people before himself being shot and killed himself. He shot his victims from much greater distances than Oswald shot JFK from. In the movie Full Metal Jacket, Seargent Hartmann, brilliantly played by former Marine Corps
Gunnery Seargent R. Lee Ermey, bragged about the shooting prowess of both Oswald and Whitman. While neither was exceptional by USMC standards, both were more than capable of carrying out the murders they are alleged to have committed.
One other point, by Gil's standards, we can't conclude that Whitman was guilty of killing 15 people and wounding 33 others because he was never tried for those crimes. I guess it will have to remain a mystery as to who shotWhich raises another point. There were hundreds, perhaps thousands of witnesses to this crime. Let`s say you got a statement from most of these people. Then you questioned the doctors who worked on the victims, and you examined all the autopsies.
all those people.
Corbett: "The standard CT ploy. Find any little inconsistency and attribute it to a conspiracy."
Gil: "There shouldn't be inconsistencies. Period. That's the whole point."
In Gil`s world all the information should mesh perfectly. Gil is an idiot.I'm sure all those witnesses would have agreed on every point and every one of them would
have told their story exactly the same way every time.
Corbett: "The standard CT ploy. Find any little inconsistency and attribute it to a conspiracy."
Gil: "There shouldn't be inconsistencies. Period. That's the whole point."
In Gil`s world all the information should mesh perfectly. Gil is an idiot.
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