• The DPD Radio Description Was Of A Man With A Gun Running FROM THE BUIL

    From Sky Throne 19efppp@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 17 05:46:53 2023
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW

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  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 17 07:44:43 2023
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 8:46:55 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW

    Correct.

    See also:
    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=57753#relPageId=117

    Sawyer Exhibit B has the gunman as 5 foot 6, 165 lbs armed with a 30 caliber rifle. ( 21 H 398 )

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_398-_-five-feet-six.jpg

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  • From Sky Throne 19efppp@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Mon Jul 17 07:57:52 2023
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 10:44:45 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 8:46:55 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Correct.

    See also:
    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=57753#relPageId=117

    Sawyer Exhibit B has the gunman as 5 foot 6, 165 lbs armed with a 30 caliber rifle. ( 21 H 398 )

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_398-_-five-feet-six.jpg

    This sort of datum must be repeated often to counter the lies of the Nutters.

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  • From recipient.x@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 17 16:26:01 2023
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW

    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well, that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?

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  • From Sky Throne 19efppp@21:1/5 to recip...@gmail.com on Mon Jul 17 23:15:12 2023
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well, that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?

    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever having been in the
    building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.

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  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 18 03:29:03 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever having been in the
    building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.

    Sawyer also broadcasted that the man was "carrying" the rifle. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_392.jpg

    Her admitted that during his testimony. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WC_Vol6_321-sawyer.gif

    Does Jerry think he was carrying the rifle around inside the building ?

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  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to John Corbett on Tue Jul 18 03:31:25 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:26:30 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    The rifle, the shells at the window, and the recovered bullets establish that the gunman was in
    the building.

    No shit, Sherlock.
    What's that got to do with Sawyer's broadcast ?

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 18 03:26:28 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever having been in the
    building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.

    The rifle, the shells at the window, and the recovered bullets establish that the gunman was in
    the building.

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  • From Sky Throne 19efppp@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Tue Jul 18 03:54:47 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:29:05 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever having been in the
    building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    Sawyer also broadcasted that the man was "carrying" the rifle. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_392.jpg

    Her admitted that during his testimony. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WC_Vol6_321-sawyer.gif

    Does Jerry think he was carrying the rifle around inside the building ?

    Yes. There's no room for reasonable doubt here. The broadcast description was of a suspect seen with a rifle outside of the building. That means at least two rifles. That means conspiracy.

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Tue Jul 18 08:16:18 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:31:27 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:26:30 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    The rifle, the shells at the window, and the recovered bullets establish that the gunman was in
    the building.
    No shit, Sherlock.
    What's that got to do with Sawyer's broadcast ?

    Try reading for context.

    "From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building."

    This according to the Toilet Seat.

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  • From Sky Throne 19efppp@21:1/5 to John Corbett on Tue Jul 18 08:30:26 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:17:23 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:54:48 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:29:05 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that
    Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever having been in
    the building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    Sawyer also broadcasted that the man was "carrying" the rifle. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_392.jpg

    Her admitted that during his testimony. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WC_Vol6_321-sawyer.gif

    Does Jerry think he was carrying the rifle around inside the building ?
    Yes. There's no room for reasonable doubt here. The broadcast description was of a suspect seen with a rifle outside of the building. That means at least two rifles. That means conspiracy.
    Who saw a man with a rifle outside the building?

    According to the DPD, this was the witness, somehow unknown to the DPD, who gave Sawyer the description which Sawyer transmitted on his police radio. It is not my fault that the DPD do not know the witness's name. According to this witness, a man ran
    from the TSBD carrying a rifle.

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  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 18 09:08:21 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:30:28 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    According to the DPD, this was the witness, somehow unknown to the DPD, who gave Sawyer the description which Sawyer transmitted on his police radio. It is not my fault that the DPD do not know the witness's name. According to this witness, a man ran
    from the TSBD carrying a rifle.

    Sky, the lying Warren Report noted that the 12:45 broadcast of the description of a man, white, slender, weighing 165, about 5'10' tall, in his early thirties
    omitted any mention of the 30-30 rifle or it being a Winchester, which were also part of the broadcast.

    They must have just forgot.

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 18 08:17:22 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:54:48 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:29:05 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever having been in the
    building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    Sawyer also broadcasted that the man was "carrying" the rifle. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_392.jpg

    Her admitted that during his testimony. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WC_Vol6_321-sawyer.gif

    Does Jerry think he was carrying the rifle around inside the building ?
    Yes. There's no room for reasonable doubt here. The broadcast description was of a suspect seen with a rifle outside of the building. That means at least two rifles. That means conspiracy.

    Who saw a man with a rifle outside the building?

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  • From Sky Throne 19efppp@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Tue Jul 18 09:10:55 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 12:08:23 PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:30:28 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    According to the DPD, this was the witness, somehow unknown to the DPD, who gave Sawyer the description which Sawyer transmitted on his police radio. It is not my fault that the DPD do not know the witness's name. According to this witness, a man ran
    from the TSBD carrying a rifle.
    Sky, the lying Warren Report noted that the 12:45 broadcast of the description of a man, white, slender, weighing 165, about 5'10' tall, in his early thirties
    omitted any mention of the 30-30 rifle or it being a Winchester, which were also part of the broadcast.

    They must have just forgot.

    Yes. They knew exactly what they were doing. At least some of them did.

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  • From Brian Doyle@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 18 10:22:38 2023
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 8:46:55 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:



    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.



    So does that give veracity to Buell Frazier's claim of seeing a man putting a rifle in a trunk?...

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  • From robert johnson@21:1/5 to Brian Doyle on Tue Jul 18 10:34:55 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:22:39 PM UTC+1, Brian Doyle wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 8:46:55 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:



    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    So does that give veracity to Buell Frazier's claim of seeing a man putting a rifle in a trunk?...


    Of course not! Frazier is a fantasist just like you.

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  • From Sky Throne 19efppp@21:1/5 to Brian Doyle on Tue Jul 18 10:39:42 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 1:22:39 PM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 8:46:55 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:



    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    So does that give veracity to Buell Frazier's claim of seeing a man putting a rifle in a trunk?...

    Not if I understand Frazier's story, that his man putting a rifle into the trunk was on the Elm Street extension. That's the front of the TSBD, whereas according to Amos Euins, the construction worker saw a man behind the TSBD. But it might match Brennan'
    s book version which doesn't mention a man and a gun, but does mention a car parked on Houston Street which he thought was suspicious, and which he said had left shortly after the assassination. But I don't think the man with the gun went into the car. I
    think he probably went north along the railroad tracks where about a mile north, witnesses saw a man with a gun and police arrested a man, no longer with a gun, by the name of John Franklin Elrod, who would have been 31 at the time of the assassination.
    But I don't know.

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 18 11:42:26 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:30:28 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:17:23 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:54:48 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:29:05 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that
    Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever having been in
    the building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    Sawyer also broadcasted that the man was "carrying" the rifle. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_392.jpg

    Her admitted that during his testimony. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WC_Vol6_321-sawyer.gif

    Does Jerry think he was carrying the rifle around inside the building ?
    Yes. There's no room for reasonable doubt here. The broadcast description was of a suspect seen with a rifle outside of the building. That means at least two rifles. That means conspiracy.
    Who saw a man with a rifle outside the building?
    According to the DPD, this was the witness, somehow unknown to the DPD, who gave Sawyer the description which Sawyer transmitted on his police radio. It is not my fault that the DPD do not know the witness's name. According to this witness, a man ran
    from the TSBD carrying a rifle.

    Pretty much what I thought. There is no person who is known to said they saw a man running
    from the building with a rifle. The DPD radio report was nothing more than a rumor. Had
    someone actually told a cop first hand they saw a man with a rifle running from the TSBD, that
    person would have been held as a material witness. There's no way a cop is going to let such a
    person leave without even identifying that person. They didn't do that with Brennan and they
    certainly wouldn't have done that with a person who said they saw a man with a rifle running
    from the building.

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  • From Sky Throne 19efppp@21:1/5 to John Corbett on Tue Jul 18 12:02:11 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:42:28 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:30:28 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:17:23 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:54:48 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:29:05 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that
    Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever having been
    in the building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    Sawyer also broadcasted that the man was "carrying" the rifle. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_392.jpg

    Her admitted that during his testimony. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WC_Vol6_321-sawyer.gif

    Does Jerry think he was carrying the rifle around inside the building ?
    Yes. There's no room for reasonable doubt here. The broadcast description was of a suspect seen with a rifle outside of the building. That means at least two rifles. That means conspiracy.
    Who saw a man with a rifle outside the building?
    According to the DPD, this was the witness, somehow unknown to the DPD, who gave Sawyer the description which Sawyer transmitted on his police radio. It is not my fault that the DPD do not know the witness's name. According to this witness, a man ran
    from the TSBD carrying a rifle.
    Pretty much what I thought. There is no person who is known to said they saw a man running
    from the building with a rifle. The DPD radio report was nothing more than a rumor. Had
    someone actually told a cop first hand they saw a man with a rifle running from the TSBD, that
    person would have been held as a material witness. There's no way a cop is going to let such a
    person leave without even identifying that person. They didn't do that with Brennan and they
    certainly wouldn't have done that with a person who said they saw a man with a rifle running
    from the building.

    You're ridiculous. You think Inspector Sawyer was reporting "rumors" on the police radio? "We have a rumor here that a suspect with a rifle, 5' 9" 165 lbs left the building carrying a rifle." You'll say anything to defend your wacky theory.

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 18 16:17:11 2023
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 10:57:54 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 10:44:45 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 8:46:55 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Correct.

    See also: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=57753#relPageId=117

    Sawyer Exhibit B has the gunman as 5 foot 6, 165 lbs armed with a 30 caliber rifle. ( 21 H 398 )

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_398-_-five-feet-six.jpg
    This sort of datum must be repeated often to counter the lies of the Nutters.

    Yes, you should look at the wrong things, and look at them incorrectly. How else can I feel superior?

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  • From Sky Throne 19efppp@21:1/5 to Bud on Tue Jul 18 16:20:48 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:17:12 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 10:57:54 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 10:44:45 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 8:46:55 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Correct.

    See also: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=57753#relPageId=117

    Sawyer Exhibit B has the gunman as 5 foot 6, 165 lbs armed with a 30 caliber rifle. ( 21 H 398 )

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_398-_-five-feet-six.jpg
    This sort of datum must be repeated often to counter the lies of the Nutters.
    Yes, you should look at the wrong things, and look at them incorrectly. How else can I feel superior?

    There's no trick feeling superior to you, moron.

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 18 16:20:41 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building.

    He didn`t see a shooter in the building.

    If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever having been in the building.

    Brennan seeing isn`t Sawyer seeing. Sawyer might not make the assumption that just because a witness says something, that makes it true.

    From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bud@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 18 16:24:41 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 12:10:57 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 12:08:23 PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:30:28 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    According to the DPD, this was the witness, somehow unknown to the DPD, who gave Sawyer the description which Sawyer transmitted on his police radio. It is not my fault that the DPD do not know the witness's name. According to this witness, a man
    ran from the TSBD carrying a rifle.
    Sky, the lying Warren Report noted that the 12:45 broadcast of the description of a man, white, slender, weighing 165, about 5'10' tall, in his early thirties
    omitted any mention of the 30-30 rifle or it being a Winchester, which were also part of the broadcast.

    They must have just forgot.
    Yes. They knew exactly what they were doing. At least some of them did.

    Explain what "they" were doing.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Tue Jul 18 16:22:23 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:29:05 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever having been in the
    building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    Sawyer also broadcasted that the man was "carrying" the rifle.

    Oswald was.

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_392.jpg

    Her admitted that during his testimony. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WC_Vol6_321-sawyer.gif

    Does Jerry think he was carrying the rifle around inside the building ?

    Who`s Jerry?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 18 16:25:21 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 3:02:13 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:42:28 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:30:28 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:17:23 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:54:48 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:29:05 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that
    Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever having been
    in the building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    Sawyer also broadcasted that the man was "carrying" the rifle. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_392.jpg

    Her admitted that during his testimony. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WC_Vol6_321-sawyer.gif

    Does Jerry think he was carrying the rifle around inside the building ?
    Yes. There's no room for reasonable doubt here. The broadcast description was of a suspect seen with a rifle outside of the building. That means at least two rifles. That means conspiracy.
    Who saw a man with a rifle outside the building?
    According to the DPD, this was the witness, somehow unknown to the DPD, who gave Sawyer the description which Sawyer transmitted on his police radio. It is not my fault that the DPD do not know the witness's name. According to this witness, a man
    ran from the TSBD carrying a rifle.
    Pretty much what I thought. There is no person who is known to said they saw a man running
    from the building with a rifle. The DPD radio report was nothing more than a rumor. Had
    someone actually told a cop first hand they saw a man with a rifle running from the TSBD, that
    person would have been held as a material witness. There's no way a cop is going to let such a
    person leave without even identifying that person. They didn't do that with Brennan and they
    certainly wouldn't have done that with a person who said they saw a man with a rifle running
    from the building.
    You're ridiculous. You think Inspector Sawyer was reporting "rumors" on the police radio? "We have a rumor here that a suspect with a rifle, 5' 9" 165 lbs left the building carrying a rifle." You'll say anything to defend your wacky theory.

    Since the alleged witness can't be named, it seems a probable explanation that no witness
    ever reported it and therefore, it would have been nothing more than a rumor. Sometimes
    rumors get started when someone overhears something and misinterprets what he hears.
    Then he repeats it and somebody else repeats it. We have no idea how many people this
    rumor passed through before it got to Sawyers ears. We have no idea how badly the original
    information got mangled in the mean time.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bud@21:1/5 to John Corbett on Tue Jul 18 16:39:36 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:25:23 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 3:02:13 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:42:28 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:30:28 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:17:23 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:54:48 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:29:05 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that
    Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever having
    been in the building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    Sawyer also broadcasted that the man was "carrying" the rifle. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_392.jpg

    Her admitted that during his testimony. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WC_Vol6_321-sawyer.gif

    Does Jerry think he was carrying the rifle around inside the building ?
    Yes. There's no room for reasonable doubt here. The broadcast description was of a suspect seen with a rifle outside of the building. That means at least two rifles. That means conspiracy.
    Who saw a man with a rifle outside the building?
    According to the DPD, this was the witness, somehow unknown to the DPD, who gave Sawyer the description which Sawyer transmitted on his police radio. It is not my fault that the DPD do not know the witness's name. According to this witness, a man
    ran from the TSBD carrying a rifle.
    Pretty much what I thought. There is no person who is known to said they saw a man running
    from the building with a rifle. The DPD radio report was nothing more than a rumor. Had
    someone actually told a cop first hand they saw a man with a rifle running from the TSBD, that
    person would have been held as a material witness. There's no way a cop is going to let such a
    person leave without even identifying that person. They didn't do that with Brennan and they
    certainly wouldn't have done that with a person who said they saw a man with a rifle running
    from the building.
    You're ridiculous. You think Inspector Sawyer was reporting "rumors" on the police radio? "We have a rumor here that a suspect with a rifle, 5' 9" 165 lbs left the building carrying a rifle." You'll say anything to defend your wacky theory.
    Since the alleged witness can't be named, it seems a probable explanation that no witness
    ever reported it and therefore, it would have been nothing more than a rumor. Sometimes
    rumors get started when someone overhears something and misinterprets what he hears.
    Then he repeats it and somebody else repeats it. We have no idea how many people this
    rumor passed through before it got to Sawyers ears. We have no idea how badly the original
    information got mangled in the mean time.

    Probably conflated. There was a witness to someone running out the back.

    Note the Fritz believed the rifle was still on the 6th floor, and this was borne out by the discovery of the assassination rifle.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Sky Throne 19efppp@21:1/5 to Bud on Tue Jul 18 23:36:32 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:39:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:25:23 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 3:02:13 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:42:28 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:30:28 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:17:23 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:54:48 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:29:05 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that
    Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever having
    been in the building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    Sawyer also broadcasted that the man was "carrying" the rifle. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_392.jpg

    Her admitted that during his testimony. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WC_Vol6_321-sawyer.gif

    Does Jerry think he was carrying the rifle around inside the building ?
    Yes. There's no room for reasonable doubt here. The broadcast description was of a suspect seen with a rifle outside of the building. That means at least two rifles. That means conspiracy.
    Who saw a man with a rifle outside the building?
    According to the DPD, this was the witness, somehow unknown to the DPD, who gave Sawyer the description which Sawyer transmitted on his police radio. It is not my fault that the DPD do not know the witness's name. According to this witness, a
    man ran from the TSBD carrying a rifle.
    Pretty much what I thought. There is no person who is known to said they saw a man running
    from the building with a rifle. The DPD radio report was nothing more than a rumor. Had
    someone actually told a cop first hand they saw a man with a rifle running from the TSBD, that
    person would have been held as a material witness. There's no way a cop is going to let such a
    person leave without even identifying that person. They didn't do that with Brennan and they
    certainly wouldn't have done that with a person who said they saw a man with a rifle running
    from the building.
    You're ridiculous. You think Inspector Sawyer was reporting "rumors" on the police radio? "We have a rumor here that a suspect with a rifle, 5' 9" 165 lbs left the building carrying a rifle." You'll say anything to defend your wacky theory.
    Since the alleged witness can't be named, it seems a probable explanation that no witness
    ever reported it and therefore, it would have been nothing more than a rumor. Sometimes
    rumors get started when someone overhears something and misinterprets what he hears.
    Then he repeats it and somebody else repeats it. We have no idea how many people this
    rumor passed through before it got to Sawyers ears. We have no idea how badly the original
    information got mangled in the mean time.
    Probably conflated. There was a witness to someone running out the back.

    Note the Fritz believed the rifle was still on the 6th floor, and this was borne out by the discovery of the assassination rifle.

    There were two rifles, you fucking moron, and one of them was taken away by a man, 5'9", 165 lbs., about 30 years old, and his description was given out on the radio by Inspector Sawyer who had just talked to a construction worker in Sawyer's car, as we
    can see in the photography. Amos Euins, who was also in the car, said that a construction worker had told an "old policeman," presumably Sawyer, about a construction worker who witnessed a suspect fleeing the scene. But you will come up with any
    unreasonable possibility to deny the obvious fact that there was a conspiracy. Because you are a Nutter Retard.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Sky Throne 19efppp@21:1/5 to Bud on Tue Jul 18 23:35:09 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:39:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:25:23 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 3:02:13 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:42:28 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:30:28 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:17:23 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:54:48 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:29:05 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that
    Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever having
    been in the building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    Sawyer also broadcasted that the man was "carrying" the rifle. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_392.jpg

    Her admitted that during his testimony. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WC_Vol6_321-sawyer.gif

    Does Jerry think he was carrying the rifle around inside the building ?
    Yes. There's no room for reasonable doubt here. The broadcast description was of a suspect seen with a rifle outside of the building. That means at least two rifles. That means conspiracy.
    Who saw a man with a rifle outside the building?
    According to the DPD, this was the witness, somehow unknown to the DPD, who gave Sawyer the description which Sawyer transmitted on his police radio. It is not my fault that the DPD do not know the witness's name. According to this witness, a
    man ran from the TSBD carrying a rifle.
    Pretty much what I thought. There is no person who is known to said they saw a man running
    from the building with a rifle. The DPD radio report was nothing more than a rumor. Had
    someone actually told a cop first hand they saw a man with a rifle running from the TSBD, that
    person would have been held as a material witness. There's no way a cop is going to let such a
    person leave without even identifying that person. They didn't do that with Brennan and they
    certainly wouldn't have done that with a person who said they saw a man with a rifle running
    from the building.
    You're ridiculous. You think Inspector Sawyer was reporting "rumors" on the police radio? "We have a rumor here that a suspect with a rifle, 5' 9" 165 lbs left the building carrying a rifle." You'll say anything to defend your wacky theory.
    Since the alleged witness can't be named, it seems a probable explanation that no witness
    ever reported it and therefore, it would have been nothing more than a rumor. Sometimes
    rumors get started when someone overhears something and misinterprets what he hears.
    Then he repeats it and somebody else repeats it. We have no idea how many people this
    rumor passed through before it got to Sawyers ears. We have no idea how badly the original
    information got mangled in the mean time.
    Probably conflated. There was a witness to someone running out the back.

    Note the Fritz believed the rifle was still on the 6th floor, and this was borne out by the discovery of the assassination rifle.

    There were two rifles, you fucking moron, and one of them was taken away by a man, 5'9", 165 lbs., about 30 years old, and his description was given out on the radio by Inspector Sawyer who had just talked to a construction worker in Sawyer's car, as we
    can see in the photography. Amos Euins, who was also in the car, said that a construction worker had told an "old policeman," presumably Sawyer, about a construction worker fleeing the scene. But you will come up with any unreasonable possibility to deny
    the obvious fact that there was a conspiracy. Because you are a Nutter Retard.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Sky Throne 19efppp@21:1/5 to Bud on Tue Jul 18 23:37:54 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:39:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:25:23 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 3:02:13 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:42:28 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:30:28 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:17:23 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:54:48 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:29:05 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that
    Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever having
    been in the building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    Sawyer also broadcasted that the man was "carrying" the rifle. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_392.jpg

    Her admitted that during his testimony. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WC_Vol6_321-sawyer.gif

    Does Jerry think he was carrying the rifle around inside the building ?
    Yes. There's no room for reasonable doubt here. The broadcast description was of a suspect seen with a rifle outside of the building. That means at least two rifles. That means conspiracy.
    Who saw a man with a rifle outside the building?
    According to the DPD, this was the witness, somehow unknown to the DPD, who gave Sawyer the description which Sawyer transmitted on his police radio. It is not my fault that the DPD do not know the witness's name. According to this witness, a
    man ran from the TSBD carrying a rifle.
    Pretty much what I thought. There is no person who is known to said they saw a man running
    from the building with a rifle. The DPD radio report was nothing more than a rumor. Had
    someone actually told a cop first hand they saw a man with a rifle running from the TSBD, that
    person would have been held as a material witness. There's no way a cop is going to let such a
    person leave without even identifying that person. They didn't do that with Brennan and they
    certainly wouldn't have done that with a person who said they saw a man with a rifle running
    from the building.
    You're ridiculous. You think Inspector Sawyer was reporting "rumors" on the police radio? "We have a rumor here that a suspect with a rifle, 5' 9" 165 lbs left the building carrying a rifle." You'll say anything to defend your wacky theory.
    Since the alleged witness can't be named, it seems a probable explanation that no witness
    ever reported it and therefore, it would have been nothing more than a rumor. Sometimes
    rumors get started when someone overhears something and misinterprets what he hears.
    Then he repeats it and somebody else repeats it. We have no idea how many people this
    rumor passed through before it got to Sawyers ears. We have no idea how badly the original
    information got mangled in the mean time.
    Probably conflated. There was a witness to someone running out the back.

    Note the Fritz believed the rifle was still on the 6th floor, and this was borne out by the discovery of the assassination rifle.

    There were two rifles, you fucking moron, and one of them was taken away by a man, 5'9", 165 lbs., about 30 years old, and his description was given out on the radio by Inspector Sawyer who had just talked to a construction worker in Sawyer's car, as we
    can see in the photography. Amos Euins, who was also in the car, said that a construction worker had told an "old policeman," presumably Sawyer, about a suspect fleeing the scene. But you will come up with any unreasonable possibility to deny the obvious
    fact that there was a conspiracy. Because you are a Nutter Retard.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 19 02:42:40 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:20:50 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:17:12 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    Yes, you should look at the wrong things, and look at them incorrectly. How else can I feel superior?
    There's no trick feeling superior to you, moron.

    Bud's so dumb it takes him an hour and a half to watch 60 minutes.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Sky Throne 19efppp@21:1/5 to John Corbett on Wed Jul 19 03:44:17 2023
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:23:32 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 2:37:56 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:39:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:25:23 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 3:02:13 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:42:28 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:30:28 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:17:23 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:54:48 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:29:05 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that
    Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever
    having been in the building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    Sawyer also broadcasted that the man was "carrying" the rifle.
    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_392.jpg

    Her admitted that during his testimony. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WC_Vol6_321-sawyer.gif

    Does Jerry think he was carrying the rifle around inside the building ?
    Yes. There's no room for reasonable doubt here. The broadcast description was of a suspect seen with a rifle outside of the building. That means at least two rifles. That means conspiracy.
    Who saw a man with a rifle outside the building?
    According to the DPD, this was the witness, somehow unknown to the DPD, who gave Sawyer the description which Sawyer transmitted on his police radio. It is not my fault that the DPD do not know the witness's name. According to this witness,
    a man ran from the TSBD carrying a rifle.
    Pretty much what I thought. There is no person who is known to said they saw a man running
    from the building with a rifle. The DPD radio report was nothing more than a rumor. Had
    someone actually told a cop first hand they saw a man with a rifle running from the TSBD, that
    person would have been held as a material witness. There's no way a cop is going to let such a
    person leave without even identifying that person. They didn't do that with Brennan and they
    certainly wouldn't have done that with a person who said they saw a man with a rifle running
    from the building.
    You're ridiculous. You think Inspector Sawyer was reporting "rumors" on the police radio? "We have a rumor here that a suspect with a rifle, 5' 9" 165 lbs left the building carrying a rifle." You'll say anything to defend your wacky theory.
    Since the alleged witness can't be named, it seems a probable explanation that no witness
    ever reported it and therefore, it would have been nothing more than a rumor. Sometimes
    rumors get started when someone overhears something and misinterprets what he hears.
    Then he repeats it and somebody else repeats it. We have no idea how many people this
    rumor passed through before it got to Sawyers ears. We have no idea how badly the original
    information got mangled in the mean time.
    Probably conflated. There was a witness to someone running out the back.

    Note the Fritz believed the rifle was still on the 6th floor, and this was borne out by the discovery of the assassination rifle.
    There were two rifles, you fucking moron, and one of them was taken away by a man, 5'9", 165 lbs., about 30 years old, and his description was given out on the radio by Inspector Sawyer who had just talked to a construction worker in Sawyer's car, as
    we can see in the photography. Amos Euins, who was also in the car, said that a construction worker had told an "old policeman," presumably Sawyer, about a suspect fleeing the scene. But you will come up with any unreasonable possibility to deny the
    obvious fact that there was a conspiracy. Because you are a Nutter Retard.
    There is no evidence of someone taking a rifle from the building in the immediate aftermath.
    There are no first person accounts of someone seeing such a thing. A hearsay radio report is
    not evidence. We don't know how many ears that alleged report had passed through before
    Sawyer heard it an there is no reason to give it any credibility. Since CTs have no real evidence
    of a conspiracy, this is the kind of nonsense they grasp at.

    You're full of shit, Nutter Retard. Inspector Sawyer reported on the radio that a suspect had been seen fleeing the building with a rifle. That is evidence, even if your delusional mind cannot accept it. Fucktard.

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 19 03:23:30 2023
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 2:37:56 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:39:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:25:23 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 3:02:13 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:42:28 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:30:28 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:17:23 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:54:48 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:29:05 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that
    Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever
    having been in the building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    Sawyer also broadcasted that the man was "carrying" the rifle.
    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_392.jpg

    Her admitted that during his testimony. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WC_Vol6_321-sawyer.gif

    Does Jerry think he was carrying the rifle around inside the building ?
    Yes. There's no room for reasonable doubt here. The broadcast description was of a suspect seen with a rifle outside of the building. That means at least two rifles. That means conspiracy.
    Who saw a man with a rifle outside the building?
    According to the DPD, this was the witness, somehow unknown to the DPD, who gave Sawyer the description which Sawyer transmitted on his police radio. It is not my fault that the DPD do not know the witness's name. According to this witness, a
    man ran from the TSBD carrying a rifle.
    Pretty much what I thought. There is no person who is known to said they saw a man running
    from the building with a rifle. The DPD radio report was nothing more than a rumor. Had
    someone actually told a cop first hand they saw a man with a rifle running from the TSBD, that
    person would have been held as a material witness. There's no way a cop is going to let such a
    person leave without even identifying that person. They didn't do that with Brennan and they
    certainly wouldn't have done that with a person who said they saw a man with a rifle running
    from the building.
    You're ridiculous. You think Inspector Sawyer was reporting "rumors" on the police radio? "We have a rumor here that a suspect with a rifle, 5' 9" 165 lbs left the building carrying a rifle." You'll say anything to defend your wacky theory.
    Since the alleged witness can't be named, it seems a probable explanation that no witness
    ever reported it and therefore, it would have been nothing more than a rumor. Sometimes
    rumors get started when someone overhears something and misinterprets what he hears.
    Then he repeats it and somebody else repeats it. We have no idea how many people this
    rumor passed through before it got to Sawyers ears. We have no idea how badly the original
    information got mangled in the mean time.
    Probably conflated. There was a witness to someone running out the back.

    Note the Fritz believed the rifle was still on the 6th floor, and this was borne out by the discovery of the assassination rifle.
    There were two rifles, you fucking moron, and one of them was taken away by a man, 5'9", 165 lbs., about 30 years old, and his description was given out on the radio by Inspector Sawyer who had just talked to a construction worker in Sawyer's car, as
    we can see in the photography. Amos Euins, who was also in the car, said that a construction worker had told an "old policeman," presumably Sawyer, about a suspect fleeing the scene. But you will come up with any unreasonable possibility to deny the
    obvious fact that there was a conspiracy. Because you are a Nutter Retard.

    There is no evidence of someone taking a rifle from the building in the immediate aftermath.
    There are no first person accounts of someone seeing such a thing. A hearsay radio report is
    not evidence. We don't know how many ears that alleged report had passed through before
    Sawyer heard it an there is no reason to give it any credibility. Since CTs have no real evidence
    of a conspiracy, this is the kind of nonsense they grasp at.

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  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to John Corbett on Wed Jul 19 04:30:36 2023
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:23:32 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    There is no evidence of someone taking a rifle from the building in the immediate aftermath.
    There are no first person accounts of someone seeing such a thing. A hearsay radio report is
    not evidence. We don't know how many ears that alleged report had passed through before
    Sawyer heard it an there is no reason to give it any credibility. Since CTs have no real evidence
    of a conspiracy, this is the kind of nonsense they grasp at.

    So every report that police receive from a witness is hearsay ?
    ROFLMAO
    The description didn't pass through "ears" before Sawyer heard it.
    It was a description given to him directly by a witness.

    Apparently, the Dallas FBI office also passed this erroneous information on to Hoover.
    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=57753#relPageId=117

    And passed this erroneous evidence on to the Commission. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=57753#relPageId=109

    ROFLMAO

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  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to Bud on Wed Jul 19 04:36:59 2023
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:32:47 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    There are a lot of different transcripts of the police tapes. I`m not seeing this here...

    https://www.jfk-assassination.net/dpdtapes/

    Because YOU'RE looking at the wrong thing.
    You're looking at somebody's website instead of official pages.
    Idiot.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to Bud on Wed Jul 19 04:33:44 2023
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:27:05 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    All you are showing is that you are desperate to see one, by looking at the wrong things incorrectly.

    We look at official documents, testimony and exhibits.
    Many of those are corroborated.
    Now you're claiming they're wrong ?

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 19 04:32:45 2023
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:44:19 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:23:32 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 2:37:56 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:39:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:25:23 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 3:02:13 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:42:28 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:30:28 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:17:23 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:54:48 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:29:05 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that
    Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever
    having been in the building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    Sawyer also broadcasted that the man was "carrying" the rifle.
    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_392.jpg

    Her admitted that during his testimony. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WC_Vol6_321-sawyer.gif

    Does Jerry think he was carrying the rifle around inside the building ?
    Yes. There's no room for reasonable doubt here. The broadcast description was of a suspect seen with a rifle outside of the building. That means at least two rifles. That means conspiracy.
    Who saw a man with a rifle outside the building?
    According to the DPD, this was the witness, somehow unknown to the DPD, who gave Sawyer the description which Sawyer transmitted on his police radio. It is not my fault that the DPD do not know the witness's name. According to this
    witness, a man ran from the TSBD carrying a rifle.
    Pretty much what I thought. There is no person who is known to said they saw a man running
    from the building with a rifle. The DPD radio report was nothing more than a rumor. Had
    someone actually told a cop first hand they saw a man with a rifle running from the TSBD, that
    person would have been held as a material witness. There's no way a cop is going to let such a
    person leave without even identifying that person. They didn't do that with Brennan and they
    certainly wouldn't have done that with a person who said they saw a man with a rifle running
    from the building.
    You're ridiculous. You think Inspector Sawyer was reporting "rumors" on the police radio? "We have a rumor here that a suspect with a rifle, 5' 9" 165 lbs left the building carrying a rifle." You'll say anything to defend your wacky theory.
    Since the alleged witness can't be named, it seems a probable explanation that no witness
    ever reported it and therefore, it would have been nothing more than a rumor. Sometimes
    rumors get started when someone overhears something and misinterprets what he hears.
    Then he repeats it and somebody else repeats it. We have no idea how many people this
    rumor passed through before it got to Sawyers ears. We have no idea how badly the original
    information got mangled in the mean time.
    Probably conflated. There was a witness to someone running out the back.

    Note the Fritz believed the rifle was still on the 6th floor, and this was borne out by the discovery of the assassination rifle.
    There were two rifles, you fucking moron, and one of them was taken away by a man, 5'9", 165 lbs., about 30 years old, and his description was given out on the radio by Inspector Sawyer who had just talked to a construction worker in Sawyer's car,
    as we can see in the photography. Amos Euins, who was also in the car, said that a construction worker had told an "old policeman," presumably Sawyer, about a suspect fleeing the scene. But you will come up with any unreasonable possibility to deny the
    obvious fact that there was a conspiracy. Because you are a Nutter Retard.
    There is no evidence of someone taking a rifle from the building in the immediate aftermath.
    There are no first person accounts of someone seeing such a thing. A hearsay radio report is
    not evidence. We don't know how many ears that alleged report had passed through before
    Sawyer heard it an there is no reason to give it any credibility. Since CTs have no real evidence
    of a conspiracy, this is the kind of nonsense they grasp at.
    You're full of shit, Nutter Retard. Inspector Sawyer reported on the radio that a suspect had been seen fleeing the building with a rifle. That is evidence, even if your delusional mind cannot accept it. Fucktard.

    There are a lot of different transcripts of the police tapes. I`m not seeing this here...

    https://www.jfk-assassination.net/dpdtapes/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 19 04:27:04 2023
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 2:37:56 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:39:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:25:23 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 3:02:13 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:42:28 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:30:28 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:17:23 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:54:48 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:29:05 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that
    Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever
    having been in the building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    Sawyer also broadcasted that the man was "carrying" the rifle.
    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_392.jpg

    Her admitted that during his testimony. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WC_Vol6_321-sawyer.gif

    Does Jerry think he was carrying the rifle around inside the building ?
    Yes. There's no room for reasonable doubt here. The broadcast description was of a suspect seen with a rifle outside of the building. That means at least two rifles. That means conspiracy.
    Who saw a man with a rifle outside the building?
    According to the DPD, this was the witness, somehow unknown to the DPD, who gave Sawyer the description which Sawyer transmitted on his police radio. It is not my fault that the DPD do not know the witness's name. According to this witness, a
    man ran from the TSBD carrying a rifle.
    Pretty much what I thought. There is no person who is known to said they saw a man running
    from the building with a rifle. The DPD radio report was nothing more than a rumor. Had
    someone actually told a cop first hand they saw a man with a rifle running from the TSBD, that
    person would have been held as a material witness. There's no way a cop is going to let such a
    person leave without even identifying that person. They didn't do that with Brennan and they
    certainly wouldn't have done that with a person who said they saw a man with a rifle running
    from the building.
    You're ridiculous. You think Inspector Sawyer was reporting "rumors" on the police radio? "We have a rumor here that a suspect with a rifle, 5' 9" 165 lbs left the building carrying a rifle." You'll say anything to defend your wacky theory.
    Since the alleged witness can't be named, it seems a probable explanation that no witness
    ever reported it and therefore, it would have been nothing more than a rumor. Sometimes
    rumors get started when someone overhears something and misinterprets what he hears.
    Then he repeats it and somebody else repeats it. We have no idea how many people this
    rumor passed through before it got to Sawyers ears. We have no idea how badly the original
    information got mangled in the mean time.
    Probably conflated. There was a witness to someone running out the back.

    Note the Fritz believed the rifle was still on the 6th floor, and this was borne out by the discovery of the assassination rifle.
    There were two rifles, you fucking moron,

    Fritz was running the investigation. Why was he looking for a rifle it was known to have been carried out?

    and one of them was taken away by a man, 5'9", 165 lbs., about 30 years old, and his description was given out on the radio by Inspector Sawyer who had just talked to a construction worker in Sawyer's car, as we can see in the photography. Amos Euins,
    who was also in the car, said that a construction worker had told an "old policeman," presumably Sawyer, about a suspect fleeing the scene. But you will come up with any unreasonable possibility to deny the obvious fact that there was a conspiracy.
    Because you are a Nutter Retard.

    All you are showing is that you are desperate to see one, by looking at the wrong things incorrectly.

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Wed Jul 19 04:47:24 2023
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:33:45 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:27:05 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    All you are showing is that you are desperate to see one, by looking at the wrong things incorrectly.
    We look at official documents, testimony and exhibits.
    Many of those are corroborated.
    Now you're claiming they're wrong ?

    I`m claiming you look at the wrong things, and look at those wrong things incorrectly.

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  • From Sky Throne 19efppp@21:1/5 to Bud on Wed Jul 19 04:38:39 2023
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:32:47 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:44:19 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:23:32 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 2:37:56 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:39:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:25:23 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 3:02:13 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:42:28 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:30:28 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:17:23 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:54:48 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:29:05 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that
    Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever
    having been in the building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    Sawyer also broadcasted that the man was "carrying" the rifle.
    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_392.jpg

    Her admitted that during his testimony. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WC_Vol6_321-sawyer.gif

    Does Jerry think he was carrying the rifle around inside the building ?
    Yes. There's no room for reasonable doubt here. The broadcast description was of a suspect seen with a rifle outside of the building. That means at least two rifles. That means conspiracy.
    Who saw a man with a rifle outside the building?
    According to the DPD, this was the witness, somehow unknown to the DPD, who gave Sawyer the description which Sawyer transmitted on his police radio. It is not my fault that the DPD do not know the witness's name. According to this
    witness, a man ran from the TSBD carrying a rifle.
    Pretty much what I thought. There is no person who is known to said they saw a man running
    from the building with a rifle. The DPD radio report was nothing more than a rumor. Had
    someone actually told a cop first hand they saw a man with a rifle running from the TSBD, that
    person would have been held as a material witness. There's no way a cop is going to let such a
    person leave without even identifying that person. They didn't do that with Brennan and they
    certainly wouldn't have done that with a person who said they saw a man with a rifle running
    from the building.
    You're ridiculous. You think Inspector Sawyer was reporting "rumors" on the police radio? "We have a rumor here that a suspect with a rifle, 5' 9" 165 lbs left the building carrying a rifle." You'll say anything to defend your wacky theory.
    Since the alleged witness can't be named, it seems a probable explanation that no witness
    ever reported it and therefore, it would have been nothing more than a rumor. Sometimes
    rumors get started when someone overhears something and misinterprets what he hears.
    Then he repeats it and somebody else repeats it. We have no idea how many people this
    rumor passed through before it got to Sawyers ears. We have no idea how badly the original
    information got mangled in the mean time.
    Probably conflated. There was a witness to someone running out the back.

    Note the Fritz believed the rifle was still on the 6th floor, and this was borne out by the discovery of the assassination rifle.
    There were two rifles, you fucking moron, and one of them was taken away by a man, 5'9", 165 lbs., about 30 years old, and his description was given out on the radio by Inspector Sawyer who had just talked to a construction worker in Sawyer's car,
    as we can see in the photography. Amos Euins, who was also in the car, said that a construction worker had told an "old policeman," presumably Sawyer, about a suspect fleeing the scene. But you will come up with any unreasonable possibility to deny the
    obvious fact that there was a conspiracy. Because you are a Nutter Retard.
    There is no evidence of someone taking a rifle from the building in the immediate aftermath.
    There are no first person accounts of someone seeing such a thing. A hearsay radio report is
    not evidence. We don't know how many ears that alleged report had passed through before
    Sawyer heard it an there is no reason to give it any credibility. Since CTs have no real evidence
    of a conspiracy, this is the kind of nonsense they grasp at.
    You're full of shit, Nutter Retard. Inspector Sawyer reported on the radio that a suspect had been seen fleeing the building with a rifle. That is evidence, even if your delusional mind cannot accept it. Fucktard.
    There are a lot of different transcripts of the police tapes. I`m not seeing this here...

    https://www.jfk-assassination.net/dpdtapes/

    The McAdams transcript slipped over that...for some reason. But you can hear it on the recording and see it in a transcript the Warren Commission used. Also, the Warren Commission has Sawyer read that in his testimony, so you can see it there.

    Mr. SAWYER. "The wanted person in this is a slender white male about 30, 5 feet 10, 165, carrying what looks to be a 30-30 or some type of Winchester."
    Mr. BELIN. Then the statement is made from the home office, "It was a rifle?" Mr. SAWYER. I answered, "Yes, a rifle."
    Mr. BELIN. Then the reply to you, "Any clothing description?"
    Mr. SAWYER. "Current witness can't remember that."

    But then the Warren Commission skips over the part where Sawyer says it is not known if the suspect had been in the building, very conveniently. Listen to the recording and you can hear what they did not write down for you.

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Wed Jul 19 04:50:10 2023
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:37:01 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:32:47 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    There are a lot of different transcripts of the police tapes. I`m not seeing this here...

    https://www.jfk-assassination.net/dpdtapes/
    Because YOU'RE looking at the wrong thing.
    You're looking at somebody's website instead of official pages.

    It contains audio of the original broadcasts. Here, show where that dialog occurs in this version of the tapes...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaL-dnXCOPs&t=2301s

    Idiot.

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 19 04:50:42 2023
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:38:41 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:32:47 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:44:19 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:23:32 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 2:37:56 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:39:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:25:23 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 3:02:13 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:42:28 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:30:28 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:17:23 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:54:48 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:29:05 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that
    Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect
    ever having been in the building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    Sawyer also broadcasted that the man was "carrying" the rifle.
    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_392.jpg

    Her admitted that during his testimony. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WC_Vol6_321-sawyer.gif

    Does Jerry think he was carrying the rifle around inside the building ?
    Yes. There's no room for reasonable doubt here. The broadcast description was of a suspect seen with a rifle outside of the building. That means at least two rifles. That means conspiracy.
    Who saw a man with a rifle outside the building?
    According to the DPD, this was the witness, somehow unknown to the DPD, who gave Sawyer the description which Sawyer transmitted on his police radio. It is not my fault that the DPD do not know the witness's name. According to this
    witness, a man ran from the TSBD carrying a rifle.
    Pretty much what I thought. There is no person who is known to said they saw a man running
    from the building with a rifle. The DPD radio report was nothing more than a rumor. Had
    someone actually told a cop first hand they saw a man with a rifle running from the TSBD, that
    person would have been held as a material witness. There's no way a cop is going to let such a
    person leave without even identifying that person. They didn't do that with Brennan and they
    certainly wouldn't have done that with a person who said they saw a man with a rifle running
    from the building.
    You're ridiculous. You think Inspector Sawyer was reporting "rumors" on the police radio? "We have a rumor here that a suspect with a rifle, 5' 9" 165 lbs left the building carrying a rifle." You'll say anything to defend your wacky
    theory.
    Since the alleged witness can't be named, it seems a probable explanation that no witness
    ever reported it and therefore, it would have been nothing more than a rumor. Sometimes
    rumors get started when someone overhears something and misinterprets what he hears.
    Then he repeats it and somebody else repeats it. We have no idea how many people this
    rumor passed through before it got to Sawyers ears. We have no idea how badly the original
    information got mangled in the mean time.
    Probably conflated. There was a witness to someone running out the back.

    Note the Fritz believed the rifle was still on the 6th floor, and this was borne out by the discovery of the assassination rifle.
    There were two rifles, you fucking moron, and one of them was taken away by a man, 5'9", 165 lbs., about 30 years old, and his description was given out on the radio by Inspector Sawyer who had just talked to a construction worker in Sawyer's
    car, as we can see in the photography. Amos Euins, who was also in the car, said that a construction worker had told an "old policeman," presumably Sawyer, about a suspect fleeing the scene. But you will come up with any unreasonable possibility to deny
    the obvious fact that there was a conspiracy. Because you are a Nutter Retard.
    There is no evidence of someone taking a rifle from the building in the immediate aftermath.
    There are no first person accounts of someone seeing such a thing. A hearsay radio report is
    not evidence. We don't know how many ears that alleged report had passed through before
    Sawyer heard it an there is no reason to give it any credibility. Since CTs have no real evidence
    of a conspiracy, this is the kind of nonsense they grasp at.
    You're full of shit, Nutter Retard. Inspector Sawyer reported on the radio that a suspect had been seen fleeing the building with a rifle. That is evidence, even if your delusional mind cannot accept it. Fucktard.
    There are a lot of different transcripts of the police tapes. I`m not seeing this here...

    https://www.jfk-assassination.net/dpdtapes/
    The McAdams transcript slipped over that...for some reason. But you can hear it on the recording

    Produce where it can be heard.

    and see it in a transcript the Warren Commission used. Also, the Warren Commission has Sawyer read that in his testimony, so you can see it there.

    Mr. SAWYER. "The wanted person in this is a slender white male about 30, 5 feet 10, 165, carrying what looks to be a 30-30 or some type of Winchester."
    Mr. BELIN. Then the statement is made from the home office, "It was a rifle?"
    Mr. SAWYER. I answered, "Yes, a rifle."
    Mr. BELIN. Then the reply to you, "Any clothing description?"
    Mr. SAWYER. "Current witness can't remember that."

    But then the Warren Commission skips over the part where Sawyer says it is not known if the suspect had been in the building, very conveniently. Listen to the recording and you can hear what they did not write down for you.

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  • From Sky Throne 19efppp@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 19 04:53:01 2023
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:38:41 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:32:47 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:44:19 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:23:32 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 2:37:56 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:39:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:25:23 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 3:02:13 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:42:28 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:30:28 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:17:23 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:54:48 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:29:05 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that
    Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect
    ever having been in the building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    Sawyer also broadcasted that the man was "carrying" the rifle.
    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_392.jpg

    Her admitted that during his testimony. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WC_Vol6_321-sawyer.gif

    Does Jerry think he was carrying the rifle around inside the building ?
    Yes. There's no room for reasonable doubt here. The broadcast description was of a suspect seen with a rifle outside of the building. That means at least two rifles. That means conspiracy.
    Who saw a man with a rifle outside the building?
    According to the DPD, this was the witness, somehow unknown to the DPD, who gave Sawyer the description which Sawyer transmitted on his police radio. It is not my fault that the DPD do not know the witness's name. According to this
    witness, a man ran from the TSBD carrying a rifle.
    Pretty much what I thought. There is no person who is known to said they saw a man running
    from the building with a rifle. The DPD radio report was nothing more than a rumor. Had
    someone actually told a cop first hand they saw a man with a rifle running from the TSBD, that
    person would have been held as a material witness. There's no way a cop is going to let such a
    person leave without even identifying that person. They didn't do that with Brennan and they
    certainly wouldn't have done that with a person who said they saw a man with a rifle running
    from the building.
    You're ridiculous. You think Inspector Sawyer was reporting "rumors" on the police radio? "We have a rumor here that a suspect with a rifle, 5' 9" 165 lbs left the building carrying a rifle." You'll say anything to defend your wacky
    theory.
    Since the alleged witness can't be named, it seems a probable explanation that no witness
    ever reported it and therefore, it would have been nothing more than a rumor. Sometimes
    rumors get started when someone overhears something and misinterprets what he hears.
    Then he repeats it and somebody else repeats it. We have no idea how many people this
    rumor passed through before it got to Sawyers ears. We have no idea how badly the original
    information got mangled in the mean time.
    Probably conflated. There was a witness to someone running out the back.

    Note the Fritz believed the rifle was still on the 6th floor, and this was borne out by the discovery of the assassination rifle.
    There were two rifles, you fucking moron, and one of them was taken away by a man, 5'9", 165 lbs., about 30 years old, and his description was given out on the radio by Inspector Sawyer who had just talked to a construction worker in Sawyer's
    car, as we can see in the photography. Amos Euins, who was also in the car, said that a construction worker had told an "old policeman," presumably Sawyer, about a suspect fleeing the scene. But you will come up with any unreasonable possibility to deny
    the obvious fact that there was a conspiracy. Because you are a Nutter Retard.
    There is no evidence of someone taking a rifle from the building in the immediate aftermath.
    There are no first person accounts of someone seeing such a thing. A hearsay radio report is
    not evidence. We don't know how many ears that alleged report had passed through before
    Sawyer heard it an there is no reason to give it any credibility. Since CTs have no real evidence
    of a conspiracy, this is the kind of nonsense they grasp at.
    You're full of shit, Nutter Retard. Inspector Sawyer reported on the radio that a suspect had been seen fleeing the building with a rifle. That is evidence, even if your delusional mind cannot accept it. Fucktard.
    There are a lot of different transcripts of the police tapes. I`m not seeing this here...

    https://www.jfk-assassination.net/dpdtapes/
    The McAdams transcript slipped over that...for some reason. But you can hear it on the recording and see it in a transcript the Warren Commission used. Also, the Warren Commission has Sawyer read that in his testimony, so you can see it there.

    Mr. SAWYER. "The wanted person in this is a slender white male about 30, 5 feet 10, 165, carrying what looks to be a 30-30 or some type of Winchester."
    Mr. BELIN. Then the statement is made from the home office, "It was a rifle?"
    Mr. SAWYER. I answered, "Yes, a rifle."
    Mr. BELIN. Then the reply to you, "Any clothing description?"
    Mr. SAWYER. "Current witness can't remember that."

    But then the Warren Commission skips over the part where Sawyer says it is not known if the suspect had been in the building, very conveniently. Listen to the recording and you can hear what they did not write down for you.

    You can hear the recording hear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERqlKEZxIrc

    This was posted by odellm23, some mad Nutter who posted a few times to one of the newsgroups, and refused to post portions of the recording he said he had but which I could not find anywhere else, a typical Nutter. The relevant portions are spoken
    between 19:04 and 20:47. odellm23 does include a transcript of the first Sawyer transmission, but he allows that part about it being unknown whether the suspect was in the building to play without a transcript. Typical Nutter.

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  • From Sky Throne 19efppp@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 19 04:59:41 2023
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:53:03 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:38:41 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:32:47 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:44:19 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:23:32 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 2:37:56 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:39:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:25:23 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 3:02:13 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:42:28 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:30:28 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:17:23 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:54:48 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:29:05 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that
    Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect
    ever having been in the building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    Sawyer also broadcasted that the man was "carrying" the rifle.
    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_392.jpg

    Her admitted that during his testimony. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WC_Vol6_321-sawyer.gif

    Does Jerry think he was carrying the rifle around inside the building ?
    Yes. There's no room for reasonable doubt here. The broadcast description was of a suspect seen with a rifle outside of the building. That means at least two rifles. That means conspiracy.
    Who saw a man with a rifle outside the building?
    According to the DPD, this was the witness, somehow unknown to the DPD, who gave Sawyer the description which Sawyer transmitted on his police radio. It is not my fault that the DPD do not know the witness's name. According to this
    witness, a man ran from the TSBD carrying a rifle.
    Pretty much what I thought. There is no person who is known to said they saw a man running
    from the building with a rifle. The DPD radio report was nothing more than a rumor. Had
    someone actually told a cop first hand they saw a man with a rifle running from the TSBD, that
    person would have been held as a material witness. There's no way a cop is going to let such a
    person leave without even identifying that person. They didn't do that with Brennan and they
    certainly wouldn't have done that with a person who said they saw a man with a rifle running
    from the building.
    You're ridiculous. You think Inspector Sawyer was reporting "rumors" on the police radio? "We have a rumor here that a suspect with a rifle, 5' 9" 165 lbs left the building carrying a rifle." You'll say anything to defend your wacky
    theory.
    Since the alleged witness can't be named, it seems a probable explanation that no witness
    ever reported it and therefore, it would have been nothing more than a rumor. Sometimes
    rumors get started when someone overhears something and misinterprets what he hears.
    Then he repeats it and somebody else repeats it. We have no idea how many people this
    rumor passed through before it got to Sawyers ears. We have no idea how badly the original
    information got mangled in the mean time.
    Probably conflated. There was a witness to someone running out the back.

    Note the Fritz believed the rifle was still on the 6th floor, and this was borne out by the discovery of the assassination rifle.
    There were two rifles, you fucking moron, and one of them was taken away by a man, 5'9", 165 lbs., about 30 years old, and his description was given out on the radio by Inspector Sawyer who had just talked to a construction worker in Sawyer's
    car, as we can see in the photography. Amos Euins, who was also in the car, said that a construction worker had told an "old policeman," presumably Sawyer, about a suspect fleeing the scene. But you will come up with any unreasonable possibility to deny
    the obvious fact that there was a conspiracy. Because you are a Nutter Retard.
    There is no evidence of someone taking a rifle from the building in the immediate aftermath.
    There are no first person accounts of someone seeing such a thing. A hearsay radio report is
    not evidence. We don't know how many ears that alleged report had passed through before
    Sawyer heard it an there is no reason to give it any credibility. Since CTs have no real evidence
    of a conspiracy, this is the kind of nonsense they grasp at.
    You're full of shit, Nutter Retard. Inspector Sawyer reported on the radio that a suspect had been seen fleeing the building with a rifle. That is evidence, even if your delusional mind cannot accept it. Fucktard.
    There are a lot of different transcripts of the police tapes. I`m not seeing this here...

    https://www.jfk-assassination.net/dpdtapes/
    The McAdams transcript slipped over that...for some reason. But you can hear it on the recording and see it in a transcript the Warren Commission used. Also, the Warren Commission has Sawyer read that in his testimony, so you can see it there.

    Mr. SAWYER. "The wanted person in this is a slender white male about 30, 5 feet 10, 165, carrying what looks to be a 30-30 or some type of Winchester."
    Mr. BELIN. Then the statement is made from the home office, "It was a rifle?"
    Mr. SAWYER. I answered, "Yes, a rifle."
    Mr. BELIN. Then the reply to you, "Any clothing description?"
    Mr. SAWYER. "Current witness can't remember that."

    But then the Warren Commission skips over the part where Sawyer says it is not known if the suspect had been in the building, very conveniently. Listen to the recording and you can hear what they did not write down for you.
    You can hear the recording hear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERqlKEZxIrc

    This was posted by odellm23, some mad Nutter who posted a few times to one of the newsgroups, and refused to post portions of the recording he said he had but which I could not find anywhere else, a typical Nutter. The relevant portions are spoken
    between 19:04 and 20:47. odellm23 does include a transcript of the first Sawyer transmission, but he allows that part about it being unknown whether the suspect was in the building to play without a transcript. Typical Nutter.

    And you can read it in this transcript on PDF pages 8-9. file:///home/richardb/Documents/KennedyInDallas/DallasPolice/Dictabelt/Transcripts/Transcript3_63.pdf

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  • From Sky Throne 19efppp@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 19 05:09:14 2023
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:53:03 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:38:41 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:32:47 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:44:19 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:23:32 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 2:37:56 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:39:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:25:23 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 3:02:13 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:42:28 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:30:28 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:17:23 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:54:48 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:29:05 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that
    Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect
    ever having been in the building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    Sawyer also broadcasted that the man was "carrying" the rifle.
    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_392.jpg

    Her admitted that during his testimony. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WC_Vol6_321-sawyer.gif

    Does Jerry think he was carrying the rifle around inside the building ?
    Yes. There's no room for reasonable doubt here. The broadcast description was of a suspect seen with a rifle outside of the building. That means at least two rifles. That means conspiracy.
    Who saw a man with a rifle outside the building?
    According to the DPD, this was the witness, somehow unknown to the DPD, who gave Sawyer the description which Sawyer transmitted on his police radio. It is not my fault that the DPD do not know the witness's name. According to this
    witness, a man ran from the TSBD carrying a rifle.
    Pretty much what I thought. There is no person who is known to said they saw a man running
    from the building with a rifle. The DPD radio report was nothing more than a rumor. Had
    someone actually told a cop first hand they saw a man with a rifle running from the TSBD, that
    person would have been held as a material witness. There's no way a cop is going to let such a
    person leave without even identifying that person. They didn't do that with Brennan and they
    certainly wouldn't have done that with a person who said they saw a man with a rifle running
    from the building.
    You're ridiculous. You think Inspector Sawyer was reporting "rumors" on the police radio? "We have a rumor here that a suspect with a rifle, 5' 9" 165 lbs left the building carrying a rifle." You'll say anything to defend your wacky
    theory.
    Since the alleged witness can't be named, it seems a probable explanation that no witness
    ever reported it and therefore, it would have been nothing more than a rumor. Sometimes
    rumors get started when someone overhears something and misinterprets what he hears.
    Then he repeats it and somebody else repeats it. We have no idea how many people this
    rumor passed through before it got to Sawyers ears. We have no idea how badly the original
    information got mangled in the mean time.
    Probably conflated. There was a witness to someone running out the back.

    Note the Fritz believed the rifle was still on the 6th floor, and this was borne out by the discovery of the assassination rifle.
    There were two rifles, you fucking moron, and one of them was taken away by a man, 5'9", 165 lbs., about 30 years old, and his description was given out on the radio by Inspector Sawyer who had just talked to a construction worker in Sawyer's
    car, as we can see in the photography. Amos Euins, who was also in the car, said that a construction worker had told an "old policeman," presumably Sawyer, about a suspect fleeing the scene. But you will come up with any unreasonable possibility to deny
    the obvious fact that there was a conspiracy. Because you are a Nutter Retard.
    There is no evidence of someone taking a rifle from the building in the immediate aftermath.
    There are no first person accounts of someone seeing such a thing. A hearsay radio report is
    not evidence. We don't know how many ears that alleged report had passed through before
    Sawyer heard it an there is no reason to give it any credibility. Since CTs have no real evidence
    of a conspiracy, this is the kind of nonsense they grasp at.
    You're full of shit, Nutter Retard. Inspector Sawyer reported on the radio that a suspect had been seen fleeing the building with a rifle. That is evidence, even if your delusional mind cannot accept it. Fucktard.
    There are a lot of different transcripts of the police tapes. I`m not seeing this here...

    https://www.jfk-assassination.net/dpdtapes/
    The McAdams transcript slipped over that...for some reason. But you can hear it on the recording and see it in a transcript the Warren Commission used. Also, the Warren Commission has Sawyer read that in his testimony, so you can see it there.

    Mr. SAWYER. "The wanted person in this is a slender white male about 30, 5 feet 10, 165, carrying what looks to be a 30-30 or some type of Winchester."
    Mr. BELIN. Then the statement is made from the home office, "It was a rifle?"
    Mr. SAWYER. I answered, "Yes, a rifle."
    Mr. BELIN. Then the reply to you, "Any clothing description?"
    Mr. SAWYER. "Current witness can't remember that."

    But then the Warren Commission skips over the part where Sawyer says it is not known if the suspect had been in the building, very conveniently. Listen to the recording and you can hear what they did not write down for you.
    You can hear the recording hear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERqlKEZxIrc

    This was posted by odellm23, some mad Nutter who posted a few times to one of the newsgroups, and refused to post portions of the recording he said he had but which I could not find anywhere else, a typical Nutter. The relevant portions are spoken
    between 19:04 and 20:47. odellm23 does include a transcript of the first Sawyer transmission, but he allows that part about it being unknown whether the suspect was in the building to play without a transcript. Typical Nutter.

    If you can't hear anything and you need to read, the McAdams transcript does have the part where Sawyer says that it is unknown whether the suspect was in the building. At least it is in the version I downloaded.

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 19 05:54:03 2023
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:53:03 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:38:41 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:32:47 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:44:19 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:23:32 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 2:37:56 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:39:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:25:23 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 3:02:13 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:42:28 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:30:28 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:17:23 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:54:48 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:29:05 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that
    Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect
    ever having been in the building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    Sawyer also broadcasted that the man was "carrying" the rifle.
    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_392.jpg

    Her admitted that during his testimony. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WC_Vol6_321-sawyer.gif

    Does Jerry think he was carrying the rifle around inside the building ?
    Yes. There's no room for reasonable doubt here. The broadcast description was of a suspect seen with a rifle outside of the building. That means at least two rifles. That means conspiracy.
    Who saw a man with a rifle outside the building?
    According to the DPD, this was the witness, somehow unknown to the DPD, who gave Sawyer the description which Sawyer transmitted on his police radio. It is not my fault that the DPD do not know the witness's name. According to this
    witness, a man ran from the TSBD carrying a rifle.
    Pretty much what I thought. There is no person who is known to said they saw a man running
    from the building with a rifle. The DPD radio report was nothing more than a rumor. Had
    someone actually told a cop first hand they saw a man with a rifle running from the TSBD, that
    person would have been held as a material witness. There's no way a cop is going to let such a
    person leave without even identifying that person. They didn't do that with Brennan and they
    certainly wouldn't have done that with a person who said they saw a man with a rifle running
    from the building.
    You're ridiculous. You think Inspector Sawyer was reporting "rumors" on the police radio? "We have a rumor here that a suspect with a rifle, 5' 9" 165 lbs left the building carrying a rifle." You'll say anything to defend your wacky
    theory.
    Since the alleged witness can't be named, it seems a probable explanation that no witness
    ever reported it and therefore, it would have been nothing more than a rumor. Sometimes
    rumors get started when someone overhears something and misinterprets what he hears.
    Then he repeats it and somebody else repeats it. We have no idea how many people this
    rumor passed through before it got to Sawyers ears. We have no idea how badly the original
    information got mangled in the mean time.
    Probably conflated. There was a witness to someone running out the back.

    Note the Fritz believed the rifle was still on the 6th floor, and this was borne out by the discovery of the assassination rifle.
    There were two rifles, you fucking moron, and one of them was taken away by a man, 5'9", 165 lbs., about 30 years old, and his description was given out on the radio by Inspector Sawyer who had just talked to a construction worker in Sawyer's
    car, as we can see in the photography. Amos Euins, who was also in the car, said that a construction worker had told an "old policeman," presumably Sawyer, about a suspect fleeing the scene. But you will come up with any unreasonable possibility to deny
    the obvious fact that there was a conspiracy. Because you are a Nutter Retard.
    There is no evidence of someone taking a rifle from the building in the immediate aftermath.
    There are no first person accounts of someone seeing such a thing. A hearsay radio report is
    not evidence. We don't know how many ears that alleged report had passed through before
    Sawyer heard it an there is no reason to give it any credibility. Since CTs have no real evidence
    of a conspiracy, this is the kind of nonsense they grasp at.
    You're full of shit, Nutter Retard. Inspector Sawyer reported on the radio that a suspect had been seen fleeing the building with a rifle. That is evidence, even if your delusional mind cannot accept it. Fucktard.
    There are a lot of different transcripts of the police tapes. I`m not seeing this here...

    https://www.jfk-assassination.net/dpdtapes/
    The McAdams transcript slipped over that...for some reason. But you can hear it on the recording and see it in a transcript the Warren Commission used. Also, the Warren Commission has Sawyer read that in his testimony, so you can see it there.

    Mr. SAWYER. "The wanted person in this is a slender white male about 30, 5 feet 10, 165, carrying what looks to be a 30-30 or some type of Winchester."
    Mr. BELIN. Then the statement is made from the home office, "It was a rifle?"
    Mr. SAWYER. I answered, "Yes, a rifle."
    Mr. BELIN. Then the reply to you, "Any clothing description?"
    Mr. SAWYER. "Current witness can't remember that."

    But then the Warren Commission skips over the part where Sawyer says it is not known if the suspect had been in the building, very conveniently. Listen to the recording and you can hear what they did not write down for you.
    You can hear the recording hear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERqlKEZxIrc

    This was posted by odellm23, some mad Nutter who posted a few times to one of the newsgroups, and refused to post portions of the recording he said he had but which I could not find anywhere else, a typical Nutter. The relevant portions are spoken
    between 19:04 and 20:47. odellm23 does include a transcript of the first Sawyer transmission, but he allows that part about it being unknown whether the suspect was in the building to play without a transcript. Typical Nutter.

    You wrote this...

    "Inspector Sawyer reported on the radio that a suspect had been seen fleeing the building with a rifle."

    Exactly where on the video you linked to can I hear this?

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  • From Sky Throne 19efppp@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 19 05:30:30 2023
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 8:09:16 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:53:03 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:38:41 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:32:47 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:44:19 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:23:32 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 2:37:56 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:39:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:25:23 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 3:02:13 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:42:28 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:30:28 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:17:23 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:54:48 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:29:05 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that
    Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the
    suspect ever having been in the building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    Sawyer also broadcasted that the man was "carrying" the rifle.
    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_392.jpg

    Her admitted that during his testimony. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WC_Vol6_321-sawyer.gif

    Does Jerry think he was carrying the rifle around inside the building ?
    Yes. There's no room for reasonable doubt here. The broadcast description was of a suspect seen with a rifle outside of the building. That means at least two rifles. That means conspiracy.
    Who saw a man with a rifle outside the building?
    According to the DPD, this was the witness, somehow unknown to the DPD, who gave Sawyer the description which Sawyer transmitted on his police radio. It is not my fault that the DPD do not know the witness's name. According to
    this witness, a man ran from the TSBD carrying a rifle.
    Pretty much what I thought. There is no person who is known to said they saw a man running
    from the building with a rifle. The DPD radio report was nothing more than a rumor. Had
    someone actually told a cop first hand they saw a man with a rifle running from the TSBD, that
    person would have been held as a material witness. There's no way a cop is going to let such a
    person leave without even identifying that person. They didn't do that with Brennan and they
    certainly wouldn't have done that with a person who said they saw a man with a rifle running
    from the building.
    You're ridiculous. You think Inspector Sawyer was reporting "rumors" on the police radio? "We have a rumor here that a suspect with a rifle, 5' 9" 165 lbs left the building carrying a rifle." You'll say anything to defend your wacky
    theory.
    Since the alleged witness can't be named, it seems a probable explanation that no witness
    ever reported it and therefore, it would have been nothing more than a rumor. Sometimes
    rumors get started when someone overhears something and misinterprets what he hears.
    Then he repeats it and somebody else repeats it. We have no idea how many people this
    rumor passed through before it got to Sawyers ears. We have no idea how badly the original
    information got mangled in the mean time.
    Probably conflated. There was a witness to someone running out the back.

    Note the Fritz believed the rifle was still on the 6th floor, and this was borne out by the discovery of the assassination rifle.
    There were two rifles, you fucking moron, and one of them was taken away by a man, 5'9", 165 lbs., about 30 years old, and his description was given out on the radio by Inspector Sawyer who had just talked to a construction worker in Sawyer'
    s car, as we can see in the photography. Amos Euins, who was also in the car, said that a construction worker had told an "old policeman," presumably Sawyer, about a suspect fleeing the scene. But you will come up with any unreasonable possibility to
    deny the obvious fact that there was a conspiracy. Because you are a Nutter Retard.
    There is no evidence of someone taking a rifle from the building in the immediate aftermath.
    There are no first person accounts of someone seeing such a thing. A hearsay radio report is
    not evidence. We don't know how many ears that alleged report had passed through before
    Sawyer heard it an there is no reason to give it any credibility. Since CTs have no real evidence
    of a conspiracy, this is the kind of nonsense they grasp at.
    You're full of shit, Nutter Retard. Inspector Sawyer reported on the radio that a suspect had been seen fleeing the building with a rifle. That is evidence, even if your delusional mind cannot accept it. Fucktard.
    There are a lot of different transcripts of the police tapes. I`m not seeing this here...

    https://www.jfk-assassination.net/dpdtapes/
    The McAdams transcript slipped over that...for some reason. But you can hear it on the recording and see it in a transcript the Warren Commission used. Also, the Warren Commission has Sawyer read that in his testimony, so you can see it there.

    Mr. SAWYER. "The wanted person in this is a slender white male about 30, 5 feet 10, 165, carrying what looks to be a 30-30 or some type of Winchester."
    Mr. BELIN. Then the statement is made from the home office, "It was a rifle?"
    Mr. SAWYER. I answered, "Yes, a rifle."
    Mr. BELIN. Then the reply to you, "Any clothing description?"
    Mr. SAWYER. "Current witness can't remember that."

    But then the Warren Commission skips over the part where Sawyer says it is not known if the suspect had been in the building, very conveniently. Listen to the recording and you can hear what they did not write down for you.
    You can hear the recording hear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERqlKEZxIrc

    This was posted by odellm23, some mad Nutter who posted a few times to one of the newsgroups, and refused to post portions of the recording he said he had but which I could not find anywhere else, a typical Nutter. The relevant portions are spoken
    between 19:04 and 20:47. odellm23 does include a transcript of the first Sawyer transmission, but he allows that part about it being unknown whether the suspect was in the building to play without a transcript. Typical Nutter.
    If you can't hear anything and you need to read, the McAdams transcript does have the part where Sawyer says that it is unknown whether the suspect was in the building. At least it is in the version I downloaded.

    Also, you can hear and see these Sawyer transmissions in my most recent video, though it might be a little too much for simpletons to comprehend.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slK0qDdIAiQ

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  • From Sky Throne 19efppp@21:1/5 to Bud on Wed Jul 19 06:01:17 2023
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 8:54:05 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:53:03 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:38:41 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:32:47 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:44:19 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:23:32 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 2:37:56 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:39:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:25:23 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 3:02:13 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:42:28 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:30:28 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:17:23 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:54:48 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:29:05 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that
    Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the
    suspect ever having been in the building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    Sawyer also broadcasted that the man was "carrying" the rifle.
    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_392.jpg

    Her admitted that during his testimony. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WC_Vol6_321-sawyer.gif

    Does Jerry think he was carrying the rifle around inside the building ?
    Yes. There's no room for reasonable doubt here. The broadcast description was of a suspect seen with a rifle outside of the building. That means at least two rifles. That means conspiracy.
    Who saw a man with a rifle outside the building?
    According to the DPD, this was the witness, somehow unknown to the DPD, who gave Sawyer the description which Sawyer transmitted on his police radio. It is not my fault that the DPD do not know the witness's name. According to
    this witness, a man ran from the TSBD carrying a rifle.
    Pretty much what I thought. There is no person who is known to said they saw a man running
    from the building with a rifle. The DPD radio report was nothing more than a rumor. Had
    someone actually told a cop first hand they saw a man with a rifle running from the TSBD, that
    person would have been held as a material witness. There's no way a cop is going to let such a
    person leave without even identifying that person. They didn't do that with Brennan and they
    certainly wouldn't have done that with a person who said they saw a man with a rifle running
    from the building.
    You're ridiculous. You think Inspector Sawyer was reporting "rumors" on the police radio? "We have a rumor here that a suspect with a rifle, 5' 9" 165 lbs left the building carrying a rifle." You'll say anything to defend your wacky
    theory.
    Since the alleged witness can't be named, it seems a probable explanation that no witness
    ever reported it and therefore, it would have been nothing more than a rumor. Sometimes
    rumors get started when someone overhears something and misinterprets what he hears.
    Then he repeats it and somebody else repeats it. We have no idea how many people this
    rumor passed through before it got to Sawyers ears. We have no idea how badly the original
    information got mangled in the mean time.
    Probably conflated. There was a witness to someone running out the back.

    Note the Fritz believed the rifle was still on the 6th floor, and this was borne out by the discovery of the assassination rifle.
    There were two rifles, you fucking moron, and one of them was taken away by a man, 5'9", 165 lbs., about 30 years old, and his description was given out on the radio by Inspector Sawyer who had just talked to a construction worker in Sawyer'
    s car, as we can see in the photography. Amos Euins, who was also in the car, said that a construction worker had told an "old policeman," presumably Sawyer, about a suspect fleeing the scene. But you will come up with any unreasonable possibility to
    deny the obvious fact that there was a conspiracy. Because you are a Nutter Retard.
    There is no evidence of someone taking a rifle from the building in the immediate aftermath.
    There are no first person accounts of someone seeing such a thing. A hearsay radio report is
    not evidence. We don't know how many ears that alleged report had passed through before
    Sawyer heard it an there is no reason to give it any credibility. Since CTs have no real evidence
    of a conspiracy, this is the kind of nonsense they grasp at.
    You're full of shit, Nutter Retard. Inspector Sawyer reported on the radio that a suspect had been seen fleeing the building with a rifle. That is evidence, even if your delusional mind cannot accept it. Fucktard.
    There are a lot of different transcripts of the police tapes. I`m not seeing this here...

    https://www.jfk-assassination.net/dpdtapes/
    The McAdams transcript slipped over that...for some reason. But you can hear it on the recording and see it in a transcript the Warren Commission used. Also, the Warren Commission has Sawyer read that in his testimony, so you can see it there.

    Mr. SAWYER. "The wanted person in this is a slender white male about 30, 5 feet 10, 165, carrying what looks to be a 30-30 or some type of Winchester."
    Mr. BELIN. Then the statement is made from the home office, "It was a rifle?"
    Mr. SAWYER. I answered, "Yes, a rifle."
    Mr. BELIN. Then the reply to you, "Any clothing description?"
    Mr. SAWYER. "Current witness can't remember that."

    But then the Warren Commission skips over the part where Sawyer says it is not known if the suspect had been in the building, very conveniently. Listen to the recording and you can hear what they did not write down for you.
    You can hear the recording hear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERqlKEZxIrc

    This was posted by odellm23, some mad Nutter who posted a few times to one of the newsgroups, and refused to post portions of the recording he said he had but which I could not find anywhere else, a typical Nutter. The relevant portions are spoken
    between 19:04 and 20:47. odellm23 does include a transcript of the first Sawyer transmission, but he allows that part about it being unknown whether the suspect was in the building to play without a transcript. Typical Nutter.
    You wrote this...
    "Inspector Sawyer reported on the radio that a suspect had been seen fleeing the building with a rifle."
    Exactly where on the video you linked to can I hear this?

    My statement includes understanding his second statement that it is not known whether this suspect had been in the building. I was not quoting him. You need to be able to think, but alas, you are a moron.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to geowright1963@gmail.com on Wed Jul 19 07:03:38 2023
    On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 08:17:22 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <geowright1963@gmail.com> wrote:


    Who saw a man with a rifle outside the building?

    Anyone intelligent enough to know about the photos showing a rifle
    outside the building...

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to gjjmail1202@gmail.com on Wed Jul 19 07:03:38 2023
    On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 09:08:21 -0700 (PDT), Gil Jesus
    <gjjmail1202@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:30:28?AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    According to the DPD, this was the witness, somehow unknown to the DPD, who gave Sawyer the description which Sawyer transmitted on his police radio. It is not my fault that the DPD do not know the witness's name. According to this witness, a man ran
    from the TSBD carrying a rifle.

    Sky, the lying Warren Report noted that the 12:45 broadcast of the description of a man, white, slender, weighing 165, about 5'10' tall, in his early thirties
    omitted any mention of the 30-30 rifle or it being a Winchester, which were also part of the broadcast.

    They must have just forgot.

    Lies of omission are just as valid lies as the more obvious lies told
    by the WCR. And the fact that not a SINGLE believer will publicly
    acknowledge A SINGLE LIE shows the inherent dishonesty of believers in
    this forum.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 19 07:03:39 2023
    On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 16:24:41 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirslick@fast.net>
    wrote:

    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 12:10:57?PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 12:08:23?PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:30:28?AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote: >>> > According to the DPD, this was the witness, somehow unknown to the DPD, who gave Sawyer the description which Sawyer transmitted on his police radio. It is not my fault that the DPD do not know the witness's name. According to this witness, a man
    ran from the TSBD carrying a rifle.
    Sky, the lying Warren Report noted that the 12:45 broadcast of the description of a man, white, slender, weighing 165, about 5'10' tall, in his early thirties
    omitted any mention of the 30-30 rifle or it being a Winchester, which were also part of the broadcast.

    They must have just forgot.
    Yes. They knew exactly what they were doing. At least some of them did.

    Explain what "they" were doing.

    Lying.

    But you knew that.

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  • From donald willis@21:1/5 to recip...@gmail.com on Wed Jul 19 10:13:47 2023
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 4:26:03 PM UTC-7, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well, that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?

    Sawyer was outstanding at dummying up. He testified that he was so busy processing witnesses that he didn't have time to take down any information. An apparent lie. Deputy Sheriff Sweatt reported that very weekend that Sawyer was indeed out front of
    the depository TAKING INFORMATION FROM WITNESSES. No wonder they called him JH "Dummy up, dummy" Sawyer....

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to donald willis on Wed Jul 19 11:05:42 2023
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 1:13:50 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 4:26:03 PM UTC-7, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?
    Sawyer was outstanding at dummying up. He testified that he was so busy processing witnesses that he didn't have time to take down any information. An apparent lie. Deputy Sheriff Sweatt reported that very weekend that Sawyer was indeed out front of
    the depository TAKING INFORMATION FROM WITNESSES. No wonder they called him JH "Dummy up, dummy" Sawyer....

    Who called him that, besides you, of course?

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Wed Jul 19 11:07:50 2023
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 10:05:23 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 04:47:24 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
    wrote:

    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:33:45?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:27:05?AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
    All you are showing is that you are desperate to see one, by looking at the wrong things incorrectly.
    We look at official documents, testimony and exhibits.
    Many of those are corroborated.
    Now you're claiming they're wrong ?

    I`m claiming you look at the wrong things, and look at those wrong things incorrectly.
    And, since this is an uncited empty claim,

    Why would I need to cite what Gil said when it is contained in this very thread?

    we know from *YOU* that
    it's a lie.

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Wed Jul 19 11:08:29 2023
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 10:05:30 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 16:17:11 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
    wrote:

    Yes, you should look at the wrong things, and look at them incorrectly. How else can I feel superior?

    Doesn't matter what you "feel."

    What a silly thing to say.

    The facts remain.

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Wed Jul 19 11:10:00 2023
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 10:05:15 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 16:22:23 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
    wrote:

    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:29:05?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14?AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote: >>> On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03?PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55?AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote: >>>>> The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that >>>> Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say >>>> this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever having been in the
    building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    Sawyer also broadcasted that the man was "carrying" the rifle.
    Logical fallacy deleted.

    The swamp poster is back, declaring everything he doesn`t have an answer to to be a logical fallacy (which is just about everything).

    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_392.jpg

    Her admitted that during his testimony.
    https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WC_Vol6_321-sawyer.gif >>
    Does Jerry think he was carrying the rifle around inside the building ?

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Wed Jul 19 11:12:06 2023
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 10:05:45 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 16:24:41 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
    wrote:

    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 12:10:57?PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 12:08:23?PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:30:28?AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    According to the DPD, this was the witness, somehow unknown to the DPD, who gave Sawyer the description which Sawyer transmitted on his police radio. It is not my fault that the DPD do not know the witness's name. According to this witness, a man
    ran from the TSBD carrying a rifle.
    Sky, the lying Warren Report noted that the 12:45 broadcast of the description of a man, white, slender, weighing 165, about 5'10' tall, in his early thirties
    omitted any mention of the 30-30 rifle or it being a Winchester, which were also part of the broadcast.

    They must have just forgot.
    Yes. They knew exactly what they were doing. At least some of them did.

    Explain what "they" were doing.

    Lying.

    But you knew that.

    They immediately started lying over police radio? Tell us more. Or is that all you have?

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to geowright1963@gmail.com on Wed Jul 19 11:26:58 2023
    On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 11:05:42 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <geowright1963@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 1:13:50?PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 4:26:03?PM UTC-7, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55?AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote: >>>> The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that
    Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well, >>> that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?
    Sawyer was outstanding at dummying up. He testified that he was so busy processing witnesses that he didn't have time to take down any information. An apparent lie. Deputy Sheriff Sweatt reported that very weekend that Sawyer was indeed out front of
    the depository TAKING INFORMATION FROM WITNESSES. No wonder they called him JH "Dummy up, dummy" Sawyer....

    Who called him that, besides you, of course?

    Only Corbutt could make the claim that someone else must use the same
    language to describe the same action in order to be valid.

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  • From recipient.x@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 19 15:34:45 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 1:15:14 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever having been in the
    building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.

    If the supposed rifle-carrying man was running from the building, then he would have been in the building in the first place....unless you want to believe that someone was taking pot shots at JFK through the crowd while standing in front of the building.
    Sawyer would then have known that the man had indeed been in the building and therefore would not have said that he didn't know whether or not the guy had been in the building.

    Of course, if you want to claim that a rifle-armed suspect had been on the ground outside the TSBD, you need to explain how everyone else in the multitude of spectators totally missed seeing him running around outside with his rifle.

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  • From recipient.x@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Wed Jul 19 15:34:50 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 5:29:05 AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever having been in the
    building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    Sawyer also broadcasted that the man was "carrying" the rifle. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WH_Vol21_392.jpg

    Her admitted that during his testimony. https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WC_Vol6_321-sawyer.gif

    Does Jerry think he was carrying the rifle around inside the building ?

    When it comes to bearing arms, to carry a firearm is to possess it on one's person...no matter if one is moving around with it or not. As Marriam-Webster puts it: "to wear or have on one's person" A definition with which they provide the example: "Police
    officers carry guns." Even if the cops are sitting at the donut shop. Coffee?

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  • From Sky Throne 19efppp@21:1/5 to recip...@gmail.com on Wed Jul 19 20:14:17 2023
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:34:47 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 1:15:14 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever having been in the
    building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    If the supposed rifle-carrying man was running from the building, then he would have been in the building in the first place....unless you want to believe that someone was taking pot shots at JFK through the crowd while standing in front of the
    building. Sawyer would then have known that the man had indeed been in the building and therefore would not have said that he didn't know whether or not the guy had been in the building.

    Of course, if you want to claim that a rifle-armed suspect had been on the ground outside the TSBD, you need to explain how everyone else in the multitude of spectators totally missed seeing him running around outside with his rifle.

    It wasn't me, but Sawyer who said that it wasn't known if the man with the rifle had been in the building. Get out your Ouiga board and argue with Inspector Sawyer.

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  • From recipient.x@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 20 16:09:34 2023
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 10:14:19 PM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:34:47 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 1:15:14 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever having been in the
    building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    If the supposed rifle-carrying man was running from the building, then he would have been in the building in the first place....unless you want to believe that someone was taking pot shots at JFK through the crowd while standing in front of the
    building. Sawyer would then have known that the man had indeed been in the building and therefore would not have said that he didn't know whether or not the guy had been in the building.

    Of course, if you want to claim that a rifle-armed suspect had been on the ground outside the TSBD, you need to explain how everyone else in the multitude of spectators totally missed seeing him running around outside with his rifle.
    It wasn't me, but Sawyer who said that it wasn't known if the man with the rifle had been in the building. Get out your Ouiga board and argue with Inspector Sawyer.

    I didn't say it was you. I pointed out that, using the same Sawyer quote you did and using the same logic you did, he could not have been describing
    a man running from the TSBD with a rifle.

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  • From Sky Throne 19efppp@21:1/5 to recip...@gmail.com on Thu Jul 20 16:42:56 2023
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 7:09:36 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 10:14:19 PM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:34:47 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 1:15:14 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that
    Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever having been in
    the building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    If the supposed rifle-carrying man was running from the building, then he would have been in the building in the first place....unless you want to believe that someone was taking pot shots at JFK through the crowd while standing in front of the
    building. Sawyer would then have known that the man had indeed been in the building and therefore would not have said that he didn't know whether or not the guy had been in the building.

    Of course, if you want to claim that a rifle-armed suspect had been on the ground outside the TSBD, you need to explain how everyone else in the multitude of spectators totally missed seeing him running around outside with his rifle.
    It wasn't me, but Sawyer who said that it wasn't known if the man with the rifle had been in the building. Get out your Ouiga board and argue with Inspector Sawyer.
    I didn't say it was you. I pointed out that, using the same Sawyer quote you did and using the same logic you did, he could not have been describing
    a man running from the TSBD with a rifle.

    You did not use any logic. You simply used bullshit to try to confuse the matter. Sawyer reported a witness seeing a suspect with a rifle running from the building and that it was unknown whether that suspect had been inside the building. What you think
    it means to any theory you think I have is irrelevant. It is evidence of a second rifle which may have been used inside the building or outside the building. I think that most likely is the rifle used by Junior Jarman on the 5th floor which was dropped
    out onto the shipping dock roof and retrieved by Harry Weatherford. Probably Weatherford then handed it down to another man, perhaps John Franklin Elrod, who was already outside of the building. But I really don't know. The relevance here is that it
    means conspiracy.

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  • From recipient.x@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 21 19:46:23 2023
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 6:42:57 PM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 7:09:36 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 10:14:19 PM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:34:47 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 1:15:14 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:26:03 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:46:55 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    The description of the Elm Street suspect was a man with a gun seen running from the building. It was not a description of a man seen in a window.
    https://postimg.cc/HjMRPBzW
    Your argument revolves around what Shanklin said that Drain said that
    Batchelor said that Sawyer said....a month and a half after the fact. Well,
    that and a healthy dollop of wishful thinking. Where does Sawyer say
    this himself?
    It also "revolves around" what Sawyer said on the radio, that it wasn't known if the man had ever been in the building. If it was Brennan seeing Oswald in the window, then there would have been no question about the suspect ever having been in
    the building. From the horse's mouth in real time, the man seen with a rifle was outside of the building.
    If the supposed rifle-carrying man was running from the building, then he would have been in the building in the first place....unless you want to believe that someone was taking pot shots at JFK through the crowd while standing in front of the
    building. Sawyer would then have known that the man had indeed been in the building and therefore would not have said that he didn't know whether or not the guy had been in the building.

    Of course, if you want to claim that a rifle-armed suspect had been on the ground outside the TSBD, you need to explain how everyone else in the multitude of spectators totally missed seeing him running around outside with his rifle.
    It wasn't me, but Sawyer who said that it wasn't known if the man with the rifle had been in the building. Get out your Ouiga board and argue with Inspector Sawyer.
    I didn't say it was you. I pointed out that, using the same Sawyer quote you
    did and using the same logic you did, he could not have been describing
    a man running from the TSBD with a rifle.
    You did not use any logic. You simply used bullshit to try to confuse the matter.

    I used the same logic that you used applied to the same statement that you used. If that logic applied to that statement is "bullshit," then your argument is just as much bullshit as mine.

    Sawyer reported a witness seeing a suspect with a rifle running from the building and that it was unknown whether that suspect had been inside the building.

    Here, you are conflating a statement that Sawyer is known to have made --
    "it was unknown"-- with a statement that Shanklin said that Drain said that Batchelor said that Sawyer said (reported six weeks after the fact). This isn't
    simply a poor argument, it's dishonest.


    What you think it means to any theory you think I have is irrelevant.

    The only irrelevancies here are your own wild conjectures

    It is evidence of a second rifle which may have been used inside the building or outside the building.

    It is only evidence of the telephone game being played. If someone was
    running around outside of the TSBD with a rifle immediately after the assassination, many people would have seen it .


    I think that most likely is the rifle used by Junior Jarman on the 5th floor which was dropped out onto the shipping dock roof and retrieved by Harry
    Weatherford. Probably Weatherford then handed it down to another man, perhaps John Franklin Elrod, who was already outside of the building. But
    I really don't know. The relevance here is that it means conspiracy.

    And now the crankery cascades over Niagra Falls

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to recip...@gmail.com on Sat Jul 22 03:54:22 2023
    On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:46:24 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 6:42:57 PM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

    It is evidence of a second rifle which may have been used inside the building or outside the building.
    It is only evidence of the telephone game being played. If someone was running around outside of the TSBD with a rifle immediately after the assassination, many people would have seen it .

    Of course. This is so obvious it is a wonder these people needed it pointed out to them. It
    was the reason Oswald left his rifle behind. It was a damning piece of evidence but it would
    have been even more damning if he tried to leave the TSBD with it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Sky Throne 19efppp@21:1/5 to John Corbett on Sat Jul 22 04:15:38 2023
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 6:54:24 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:46:24 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 6:42:57 PM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

    It is evidence of a second rifle which may have been used inside the building or outside the building.
    It is only evidence of the telephone game being played. If someone was running around outside of the TSBD with a rifle immediately after the assassination, many people would have seen it .
    Of course. This is so obvious it is a wonder these people needed it pointed out to them. It
    was the reason Oswald left his rifle behind. It was a damning piece of evidence but it would
    have been even more damning if he tried to leave the TSBD with it.

    What's obvious is that the Lone Nutters are a tribe of morons.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 22 05:44:11 2023
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:15:40 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 6:54:24 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:46:24 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 6:42:57 PM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

    It is evidence of a second rifle which may have been used inside the building or outside the building.
    It is only evidence of the telephone game being played. If someone was running around outside of the TSBD with a rifle immediately after the assassination, many people would have seen it .
    Of course. This is so obvious it is a wonder these people needed it pointed out to them. It
    was the reason Oswald left his rifle behind. It was a damning piece of evidence but it would
    have been even more damning if he tried to leave the TSBD with it.
    What's obvious is that the Lone Nutters are a tribe of morons.

    We all figured out who killed JFK many years ago. You still seem to be stumped. If we're morons
    where do you fall?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to John Corbett on Sat Jul 22 05:54:58 2023
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 6:54:24 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:46:24 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 6:42:57 PM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

    It is evidence of a second rifle which may have been used inside the building or outside the building.
    It is only evidence of the telephone game being played. If someone was running around outside of the TSBD with a rifle immediately after the assassination, many people would have seen it .
    Of course. This is so obvious it is a wonder these people needed it pointed out to them. It
    was the reason Oswald left his rifle behind.

    And why Fritz figured it was somewhere to be found on the sixth floor of the TSBD.

    It was a damning piece of evidence but it would
    have been even more damning if he tried to leave the TSBD with it.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to geowright1963@gmail.com on Mon Jul 24 07:34:55 2023
    On Sat, 22 Jul 2023 05:44:11 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <geowright1963@gmail.com> wrote:

    We all figured out who killed JFK many years ago. You still seem to be stumped. If we're morons
    where do you fall?

    Can you name these three logical fallacies?

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