• Corbutt Continues To Act As If Oswald Was Convicted...

    From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 14 09:02:33 2023
    They look at all the evidence in this context and must make the
    evidence fit their beliefs rather than making their beliefs fit the
    evidence. No matter what evidence they are presented with of
    Oswald's guilt, they will invent an excuse for disregarding it. If the evidence doesn't fit their preconceived belief in a conspiracy, it
    must be the evidence that is flawed. They are looking through the
    wrong end of the telescope. Is it any wonder they can't figure out
    such an open and shut case of a double murder.

    Corbutt continues to act as if Oswald was convicted, yet cannor cite
    any evidence showing why he should have been.

    The cowardice is just shocking!

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to chuckschuyler123@gmail.com on Fri Jul 14 11:09:23 2023
    On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 10:22:07 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler <chuckschuyler123@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 11:02:37?AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    They look at all the evidence in this context and must make the
    evidence fit their beliefs rather than making their beliefs fit the
    evidence. No matter what evidence they are presented with of
    Oswald's guilt, they will invent an excuse for disregarding it. If the
    evidence doesn't fit their preconceived belief in a conspiracy, it
    must be the evidence that is flawed. They are looking through the
    wrong end of the telescope. Is it any wonder they can't figure out
    such an open and shut case of a double murder.

    Corbutt continues to act as if Oswald was convicted,


    He's convicted historically...

    "History" doesn't convict... it can't think, it has no ability to
    judge. You are guilty of anthropomorphizing a noun.

    What a moron!

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  • From Chuck Schuyler@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Fri Jul 14 10:22:07 2023
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 11:02:37 AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    They look at all the evidence in this context and must make the
    evidence fit their beliefs rather than making their beliefs fit the evidence. No matter what evidence they are presented with of
    Oswald's guilt, they will invent an excuse for disregarding it. If the evidence doesn't fit their preconceived belief in a conspiracy, it
    must be the evidence that is flawed. They are looking through the
    wrong end of the telescope. Is it any wonder they can't figure out
    such an open and shut case of a double murder.

    Corbutt continues to act as if Oswald was convicted,


    He's convicted historically, stupid. No one pretends he had a criminal trial.

    yet cannor cite
    any evidence showing why he should have been.

    Fringe reset.

    Read it and weep:

    https://www.govinfo.gov/features/warren-commission-report-and-hearings

    The cowardice is just shocking!

    Indeed!

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  • From donald willis@21:1/5 to Chuck Schuyler on Fri Jul 14 11:51:05 2023
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 10:22:09 AM UTC-7, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 11:02:37 AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    They look at all the evidence in this context and must make the
    evidence fit their beliefs rather than making their beliefs fit the evidence. No matter what evidence they are presented with of
    Oswald's guilt, they will invent an excuse for disregarding it. If the evidence doesn't fit their preconceived belief in a conspiracy, it
    must be the evidence that is flawed. They are looking through the
    wrong end of the telescope. Is it any wonder they can't figure out
    such an open and shut case of a double murder.

    Corbutt continues to act as if Oswald was convicted,
    He's convicted historically

    By "historically", however, you can't mean by the periodic polls or by the number of books on the subject. You mean "convicted" by the best minds in America, at least in their own eyes. (OK, minds don't have eyes)

    , stupid. No one pretends he had a criminal trial.
    yet cannor cite
    any evidence showing why he should have been.
    Fringe reset.

    Read it and weep:

    https://www.govinfo.gov/features/warren-commission-report-and-hearings

    The cowardice is just shocking!
    Indeed!

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to donald willis on Fri Jul 14 11:54:55 2023
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 2:51:06 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 10:22:09 AM UTC-7, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 11:02:37 AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    They look at all the evidence in this context and must make the evidence fit their beliefs rather than making their beliefs fit the evidence. No matter what evidence they are presented with of
    Oswald's guilt, they will invent an excuse for disregarding it. If the evidence doesn't fit their preconceived belief in a conspiracy, it must be the evidence that is flawed. They are looking through the wrong end of the telescope. Is it any wonder they can't figure out such an open and shut case of a double murder.

    Corbutt continues to act as if Oswald was convicted,
    He's convicted historically
    By "historically", however, you can't mean by the periodic polls

    What do those polls say about Oswald`s guilt?

    or by the number of books on the subject.

    Who is it those books say killed JFK?

    You mean "convicted" by the best minds in America, at least in their own eyes. (OK, minds don't have eyes)
    , stupid. No one pretends he had a criminal trial.
    yet cannor cite
    any evidence showing why he should have been.
    Fringe reset.

    Read it and weep:

    https://www.govinfo.gov/features/warren-commission-report-and-hearings

    The cowardice is just shocking!
    Indeed!

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to donald willis on Fri Jul 14 12:48:01 2023
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 2:51:06 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 10:22:09 AM UTC-7, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 11:02:37 AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    They look at all the evidence in this context and must make the evidence fit their beliefs rather than making their beliefs fit the evidence. No matter what evidence they are presented with of
    Oswald's guilt, they will invent an excuse for disregarding it. If the evidence doesn't fit their preconceived belief in a conspiracy, it must be the evidence that is flawed. They are looking through the wrong end of the telescope. Is it any wonder they can't figure out such an open and shut case of a double murder.

    Corbutt continues to act as if Oswald was convicted,
    He's convicted historically
    By "historically", however, you can't mean by the periodic polls or by the number of books on the subject. You mean "convicted" by the best minds in America, at least in their own eyes. (OK, minds don't have eyes)

    The assclowns who argue for Oswald's innocence ignore the fact that even among CTs, they
    are a minority. Most CTs accept Oswald fired shots at JFK and was one of the shooters if not
    the shooter. The plurality viewpoint is that Oswald assassinated JFK working in concert with
    others. If we break that plurality down by who they think was behind the assassination, none of
    the theories has as many advocates as those who believe Oswald acted alone.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to geowright1963@gmail.com on Fri Jul 14 13:07:41 2023
    On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 12:48:01 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <geowright1963@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 2:51:06?PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 10:22:09?AM UTC-7, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 11:02:37?AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    They look at all the evidence in this context and must make the
    evidence fit their beliefs rather than making their beliefs fit the
    evidence. No matter what evidence they are presented with of
    Oswald's guilt, they will invent an excuse for disregarding it. If the >>>>> evidence doesn't fit their preconceived belief in a conspiracy, it
    must be the evidence that is flawed. They are looking through the
    wrong end of the telescope. Is it any wonder they can't figure out
    such an open and shut case of a double murder.

    Corbutt continues to act as if Oswald was convicted,
    He's convicted historically
    By "historically", however, you can't mean by the periodic polls or by the number of books on the subject. You mean "convicted" by the best minds in America, at least in their own eyes. (OK, minds don't have eyes)

    The assclowns...

    Logical fallacy deleted.

    When this is the level you need to sink to, you've simply proven that
    you can't debate using citations, evidence, and logical argument.

    (People are beginning to wonder about your apparent fascination with
    the clowns' asses... quite the weird fantasy you have going on...)

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  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to Chuck Schuyler on Fri Jul 14 13:52:59 2023
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 1:22:09 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    He's convicted historically, stupid.

    Look who's talking about being stupid.
    Innocent until convicted HISTORICALLY ?
    WTF does that even mean ?

    If a lie is told and the truth can't be proven, does the lie then become the truth ?
    Of course not.

    And what does it say about your mental state of mind when you're shown documents, testimony and exhibits that
    question Oswald's guilt, collected by your own Warren investgation, and you reject them and refuse to look at the
    links where they're located ?
    How can any reasonable person believe you people are right in the head ?

    They look at all the evidence in this context and must make the
    evidence fit their beliefs rather than making their beliefs fit the
    evidence. No matter what evidence they are presented with of
    Oswald's INNOCENCE, they will invent an excuse for disregarding it. If the evidence doesn't fit their preconceived belief in GUILT, it
    must be the evidence that is flawed. They are looking through the
    wrong end of the telescope. Is it any wonder they can't figure out
    such an open and shut case of a double murder.

    That's a gate that swings both ways, John.
    As you judge, so shall you be judged.

    ROFLMAO.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to gjjmail1202@gmail.com on Fri Jul 14 14:13:08 2023
    On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 13:52:59 -0700 (PDT), Gil Jesus
    <gjjmail1202@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 1:22:09?PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    He's convicted historically, stupid.

    Look who's talking about being stupid.
    Innocent until convicted HISTORICALLY ?
    WTF does that even mean ?


    I've challenged Chuckles to cite for his claims many times, he
    consistently refuses to do so.

    He makes these empty meaningless claims because he doesn't have any
    evidence to fall back on.

    Then he uses ad hominems in his frustration...


    If a lie is told and the truth can't be proven, does the lie then become the truth ?
    Of course not.

    And what does it say about your mental state of mind when you're shown documents, testimony and exhibits that
    question Oswald's guilt, collected by your own Warren investgation, and you reject them and refuse to look at the
    links where they're located ?
    How can any reasonable person believe you people are right in the head ?


    It's simply a lack of honesty...


    They look at all the evidence in this context and must make the
    evidence fit their beliefs rather than making their beliefs fit the
    evidence. No matter what evidence they are presented with of
    Oswald's INNOCENCE, they will invent an excuse for disregarding it. If the >> evidence doesn't fit their preconceived belief in GUILT, it
    must be the evidence that is flawed. They are looking through the
    wrong end of the telescope. Is it any wonder they can't figure out
    such an open and shut case of a double murder.

    That's a gate that swings both ways, John.
    As you judge, so shall you be judged.

    ROFLMAO.

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  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Fri Jul 14 14:28:31 2023
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 4:53:01 PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 1:22:09 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    He's convicted historically, stupid.
    Look who's talking about being stupid.
    Innocent until convicted HISTORICALLY ?
    WTF does that even mean ?

    If a lie is told and the truth can't be proven, does the lie then become the truth ?
    Of course not.

    And what does it say about your mental state of mind when you're shown documents, testimony and exhibits that
    question Oswald's guilt, collected by your own Warren investgation, and you reject them and refuse to look at the
    links where they're located ?

    It's called an ability to weigh evidence. The WC collected 26 volumes of data, exhibits, and
    testimony. Not all of it was reliability and there were numerous cases in which it was
    contradictory, especially regarding eyewitness testimony. When two people give conflicting
    accounts of the same event, it makes no sense to accept both as being accurate. It's possible
    both could be wrong but not possible for both to be right. It was the job of the WC to wade
    through all that raw data and determine what happened. They did an admirable job of
    separating the wheat from the chaff.

    How can any reasonable person believe you people are right in the head ?

    How can any reasonable person doubt Oswald's guilt in two murders.

    They look at all the evidence in this context and must make the
    evidence fit their beliefs rather than making their beliefs fit the evidence. No matter what evidence they are presented with of
    Oswald's INNOCENCE, they will invent an excuse for disregarding it. If the evidence doesn't fit their preconceived belief in GUILT, it
    must be the evidence that is flawed. They are looking through the
    wrong end of the telescope. Is it any wonder they can't figure out
    such an open and shut case of a double murder.

    That's a gate that swings both ways, John.
    As you judge, so shall you be judged.

    ROFLMAO.

    So far I haven't killed anybody and have no plans to. At the time of his death, Oswald couldn't
    truthfully have said the same thing.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to geowright1963@gmail.com on Fri Jul 14 14:40:50 2023
    On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 14:28:31 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <geowright1963@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 4:53:01?PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 1:22:09?PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    He's convicted historically, stupid.
    Look who's talking about being stupid.
    Innocent until convicted HISTORICALLY ?
    WTF does that even mean ?

    If a lie is told and the truth can't be proven, does the lie then become the truth ?
    Of course not.

    And what does it say about your mental state of mind when you're shown documents, testimony and exhibits that
    question Oswald's guilt, collected by your own Warren investgation, and you reject them and refuse to look at the
    links where they're located ?

    It's called an ability to weigh evidence.


    No it isn't. As usual, you're simply lying again. You cannot cite
    for this wacky claim of yours.


    The WC collected 26 volumes of data, exhibits, and
    testimony. Not all of it was reliability


    Nor is your grammar...


    and there were numerous cases in which it was
    contradictory, especially regarding eyewitness testimony.


    You won't cite any...

    Indeed, you don't believe **ANY** eyewitness.

    But you're TERRIFIED of trying to prove their statements wrong.


    When two people give conflicting
    accounts of the same event, it makes no sense to accept both as being accurate.


    Cite just *ONE* critic making that claim.

    If you can't, you've acknowledged that you're lying again...


    It's possible
    both could be wrong but not possible for both to be right. It was the job of the WC to wade
    through all that raw data and determine what happened. They did an admirable job of
    separating the wheat from the chaff.


    That's simply an impossible statement. The WC provably *LIED* about
    their own evidence. You cannot do an "admirable job" by lying.

    Maybe *you* think you can...


    How can any reasonable person believe you people are right in the head ?

    How can any reasonable person doubt Oswald's guilt in two murders.


    Easy. They look at the evidence, not the false claims put forth by
    the WCR.


    They look at all the evidence in this context and must make the
    evidence fit their beliefs rather than making their beliefs fit the
    evidence. No matter what evidence they are presented with of
    Oswald's INNOCENCE, they will invent an excuse for disregarding it. If the >>> evidence doesn't fit their preconceived belief in GUILT, it
    must be the evidence that is flawed. They are looking through the
    wrong end of the telescope. Is it any wonder they can't figure out
    such an open and shut case of a double murder.

    That's a gate that swings both ways, John.
    As you judge, so shall you be judged.

    ROFLMAO.

    Logical fallacy deleted.

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  • From Chuck Schuyler@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Fri Jul 14 18:31:04 2023
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 3:53:01 PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 1:22:09 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    He's convicted historically, stupid.

    Look who's talking about being stupid.
    Innocent until convicted HISTORICALLY ?

    Where did I say innocent until convicted historically?

    WTF does that even mean ?

    It means Oswald as JFK's murderer has been settled--historically. It's part of the United States of America's official history.

    Notice that JFK's own library at https://www.jfklibrary.org/ links to the Warren Commission Report for interested parties to learn about JFK's murder. It doesn't link to your hobby website or Oliver Stone's fictional movie or Crossfire by the nutty Jim
    Marrs, etc. The library links to the findings here:

    https://www.jfklibrary.org/learn/about-jfk/jfk-in-history/november-22-1963-death-of-the-president

    The library addresses the "fourth shot" in the HSCA here:

    "Note to the reader: Point 1B in the link below to the findings of the 1979 House Select Committee on Assassinations states that the committee had found "a high probability that two gunmen fired" at the president. This conclusion resulted from the last-
    minute “discovery” of a Dallas police radio transmission tape that allegedly provided evidence that four or more shots were fired in Dealey Plaza. AFTER THE REPORT APPEARED IN PRINT, ACOUSTICS EXPERTS ANALYZED THE TAPE AND PROVED CONCLUSIVELY THAT IT
    WAS COMPLETELY WORTHLESS [emphasis mine]—thus negating the finding in Point 1B."

    Our National Archives make historical documents relevant to the mission of each presidential library available for researchers and visitors. See the library link here:

    https://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/visit

    The National Archives and Records Administration is an independent agency of our government:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Archives_and_Records_Administration

    Per Wikipedia, "The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) is an "independent federal agency of the United States government within the executive branch",[4] charged with the preservation and documentation of government and historical
    records."



    If a lie is told and the truth can't be proven, does the lie then become the truth ?
    Of course not.

    And what does it say about your mental state of mind when you're shown documents, testimony and exhibits that
    question Oswald's guilt, collected by your own Warren investgation, and you reject them and refuse to look at the
    links where they're located ?
    How can any reasonable person believe you people are right in the head ?

    What conspiracy, Gil? You can't even decide how it happened or who did it or how many shots were fired.

    They look at all the evidence in this context and must make the
    evidence fit their beliefs rather than making their beliefs fit the evidence. No matter what evidence they are presented with of
    Oswald's INNOCENCE, they will invent an excuse for disregarding it. If the evidence doesn't fit their preconceived belief in GUILT, it
    must be the evidence that is flawed. They are looking through the
    wrong end of the telescope. Is it any wonder they can't figure out
    such an open and shut case of a double murder.
    That's a gate that swings both ways, John.
    As you judge, so shall you be judged.

    ROFLMAO.

    Hey Gil, we all get it that Oswald didn't have his day in court. Stop putting him on trial at the newsgroup and trying to play Johnny Cochrane and raise reasonable doubt. JFK is dead and he's not coming back. Oswald is dead and he's not coming back.

    Oswald is guilty historically. If you can come up with a better conclusion that leaves less holes than the conclusion you disagree with, please share it right now.

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  • From Sky Throne 19efppp@21:1/5 to Chuck Schuyler on Sat Jul 15 00:20:37 2023
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 9:31:05 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 3:53:01 PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 1:22:09 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    He's convicted historically, stupid.

    Look who's talking about being stupid.
    Innocent until convicted HISTORICALLY ?
    Where did I say innocent until convicted historically?
    WTF does that even mean ?
    It means Oswald as JFK's murderer has been settled--historically. It's part of the United States of America's official history.

    Notice that JFK's own library at https://www.jfklibrary.org/ links to the Warren Commission Report for interested parties to learn about JFK's murder. It doesn't link to your hobby website or Oliver Stone's fictional movie or Crossfire by the nutty Jim
    Marrs, etc. The library links to the findings here:

    https://www.jfklibrary.org/learn/about-jfk/jfk-in-history/november-22-1963-death-of-the-president

    The library addresses the "fourth shot" in the HSCA here:

    "Note to the reader: Point 1B in the link below to the findings of the 1979 House Select Committee on Assassinations states that the committee had found "a high probability that two gunmen fired" at the president. This conclusion resulted from the last-
    minute “discovery” of a Dallas police radio transmission tape that allegedly provided evidence that four or more shots were fired in Dealey Plaza. AFTER THE REPORT APPEARED IN PRINT, ACOUSTICS EXPERTS ANALYZED THE TAPE AND PROVED CONCLUSIVELY THAT IT
    WAS COMPLETELY WORTHLESS [emphasis mine]—thus negating the finding in Point 1B."

    Our National Archives make historical documents relevant to the mission of each presidential library available for researchers and visitors. See the library link here:

    https://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/visit

    The National Archives and Records Administration is an independent agency of our government:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Archives_and_Records_Administration

    Per Wikipedia, "The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) is an "independent federal agency of the United States government within the executive branch",[4] charged with the preservation and documentation of government and historical
    records."

    If a lie is told and the truth can't be proven, does the lie then become the truth ?
    Of course not.

    And what does it say about your mental state of mind when you're shown documents, testimony and exhibits that
    question Oswald's guilt, collected by your own Warren investgation, and you reject them and refuse to look at the
    links where they're located ?
    How can any reasonable person believe you people are right in the head ?
    What conspiracy, Gil? You can't even decide how it happened or who did it or how many shots were fired.
    They look at all the evidence in this context and must make the
    evidence fit their beliefs rather than making their beliefs fit the evidence. No matter what evidence they are presented with of
    Oswald's INNOCENCE, they will invent an excuse for disregarding it. If the
    evidence doesn't fit their preconceived belief in GUILT, it
    must be the evidence that is flawed. They are looking through the
    wrong end of the telescope. Is it any wonder they can't figure out
    such an open and shut case of a double murder.
    That's a gate that swings both ways, John.
    As you judge, so shall you be judged.

    ROFLMAO.
    Hey Gil, we all get it that Oswald didn't have his day in court. Stop putting him on trial at the newsgroup and trying to play Johnny Cochrane and raise reasonable doubt. JFK is dead and he's not coming back. Oswald is dead and he's not coming back.

    Oswald is guilty historically. If you can come up with a better conclusion that leaves less holes than the conclusion you disagree with, please share it right now.

    JFK's "own library?"

    Founding Benefactors of the John F. Kennedy Library Foundation

    The Family of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy

    and

    AT&T
    Altria Group, Inc.
    American Airlines
    Anonymous
    The Armand Hammer Foundation
    Bank of America
    Best Buy Co., Inc.
    Blue Cross Blue Shield of Massachusetts
    David and Mary Boies/Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP
    Boston 2004, Inc.
    Jack Manning/Boston Capital Foundation
    The Boston Foundation
    The Boston Globe
    Boston Herald
    David and Trixie Burke
    CBS Corporation
    Camrose & Kross, LLC
    Carnegie Corporation of New York
    Chestnut Hill Charitable Foundation
    Citizens Bank Foundation
    Citizens Energy Corporation
    The Coca-Cola Company
    Communications Workers of America
    William F. and Margot C. Connell
    Jill Ker Conway
    T. Jefferson Coolidge/Coolidge Family Fund
    Corcoran Jennison Companies
    John and Diddy Cullinane
    Charles U. and Christine Sullivan Daly/The Daly Fund
    Marvin and Barbara Davis
    Paul A. Dever Fund
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    Marilyn and Gerard F. Doherty
    Nancy and Richard K. Donahue
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    Toni and Jack Fallon
    Law Offices of Kenneth R. Feinberg, PC
    Freedom Forum
    Irene Gardner
    General Dynamics
    Elma and Milton A. Gilbert
    Gillette
    Carol and Avram Goldberg
    Gourmet Caterers
    Katharine Graham
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    Hachette Filipacchi Media U.S.
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    The Hartford Financial Services Group, Inc.
    H.J. Heinz Company Foundation
    Carol and Patrick Hemingway
    Arnold Hiatt
    Ted Hoff and Kathleen O’Connell
    Nicole and Thomas J. Hynes, Jr.
    International Union of Bricklayers and Allied Craftworkers
    John Hancock Financial Services
    The Joyce Foundation
    Jurys Doyle Hotel Group
    Stanley A. Kamen
    W. K. Kellogg Foundation
    Gail and Paul G. Kirk, Jr.
    Philip H. Knight
    Marjorie Kovler Fund
    L’Oreal
    Joanna Lau/Lau Technologies
    Thomas H. Lee
    Liberty Mutual Group
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    The Lowell Institute
    Carolyn and Peter S. Lynch
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    Merrill Lynch & Co., Inc.
    Arthur and Kathryn Murray
    NSTAR
    National Amusements
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    Leon A. Pennington and Mary E. Pennington Trusts
    Michael, John and William Perik
    Richard and Sally Phelps
    Raytheon Company
    Red Sox Foundation
    Sumner M. Redstone
    Carol and Robert E. Riley
    Samalexa Charitable Foundation
    Save America’s Treasures
    Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr. Fund
    Serono, Inc.
    The Walter H. and Phyllis J. Shorenstein Foundation
    Susan and Alan Solomont
    Theodore C. Sorensen Fund
    The Tiffany & Co. Foundation
    United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America
    Universal Studios, Inc.
    Verizon
    Viacom
    WBUR/Boston University
    WCVB-TV/DT Channel 5
    Dr. An Wang
    Wasserman Foundation
    Susan and Donald M. Wilson
    Alicia and Vince Wolfington
    Yawkey Foundation II
    The Roy J. Zuckerberg Family Foundation

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 15 02:37:17 2023
    On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 3:20:39 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 9:31:05 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 3:53:01 PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 1:22:09 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    He's convicted historically, stupid.

    Look who's talking about being stupid.
    Innocent until convicted HISTORICALLY ?
    Where did I say innocent until convicted historically?
    WTF does that even mean ?
    It means Oswald as JFK's murderer has been settled--historically. It's part of the United States of America's official history.

    Notice that JFK's own library at https://www.jfklibrary.org/ links to the Warren Commission Report for interested parties to learn about JFK's murder. It doesn't link to your hobby website or Oliver Stone's fictional movie or Crossfire by the nutty
    Jim Marrs, etc. The library links to the findings here:

    https://www.jfklibrary.org/learn/about-jfk/jfk-in-history/november-22-1963-death-of-the-president

    The library addresses the "fourth shot" in the HSCA here:

    "Note to the reader: Point 1B in the link below to the findings of the 1979 House Select Committee on Assassinations states that the committee had found "a high probability that two gunmen fired" at the president. This conclusion resulted from the
    last-minute “discovery” of a Dallas police radio transmission tape that allegedly provided evidence that four or more shots were fired in Dealey Plaza. AFTER THE REPORT APPEARED IN PRINT, ACOUSTICS EXPERTS ANALYZED THE TAPE AND PROVED CONCLUSIVELY
    THAT IT WAS COMPLETELY WORTHLESS [emphasis mine]—thus negating the finding in Point 1B."

    Our National Archives make historical documents relevant to the mission of each presidential library available for researchers and visitors. See the library link here:

    https://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/visit

    The National Archives and Records Administration is an independent agency of our government:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Archives_and_Records_Administration

    Per Wikipedia, "The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) is an "independent federal agency of the United States government within the executive branch",[4] charged with the preservation and documentation of government and historical
    records."

    If a lie is told and the truth can't be proven, does the lie then become the truth ?
    Of course not.

    And what does it say about your mental state of mind when you're shown documents, testimony and exhibits that
    question Oswald's guilt, collected by your own Warren investgation, and you reject them and refuse to look at the
    links where they're located ?
    How can any reasonable person believe you people are right in the head ?
    What conspiracy, Gil? You can't even decide how it happened or who did it or how many shots were fired.
    They look at all the evidence in this context and must make the
    evidence fit their beliefs rather than making their beliefs fit the evidence. No matter what evidence they are presented with of
    Oswald's INNOCENCE, they will invent an excuse for disregarding it. If the
    evidence doesn't fit their preconceived belief in GUILT, it
    must be the evidence that is flawed. They are looking through the wrong end of the telescope. Is it any wonder they can't figure out such an open and shut case of a double murder.
    That's a gate that swings both ways, John.
    As you judge, so shall you be judged.

    ROFLMAO.
    Hey Gil, we all get it that Oswald didn't have his day in court. Stop putting him on trial at the newsgroup and trying to play Johnny Cochrane and raise reasonable doubt. JFK is dead and he's not coming back. Oswald is dead and he's not coming back.

    Oswald is guilty historically. If you can come up with a better conclusion that leaves less holes than the conclusion you disagree with, please share it right now.
    JFK's "own library?"

    Founding Benefactors of the John F. Kennedy Library Foundation

    The Family of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy

    and

    AT&T
    Altria Group, Inc.
    American Airlines
    Anonymous
    The Armand Hammer Foundation
    Bank of America
    Best Buy Co., Inc.
    Blue Cross Blue Shield of Massachusetts
    David and Mary Boies/Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP
    Boston 2004, Inc.
    Jack Manning/Boston Capital Foundation
    The Boston Foundation
    The Boston Globe
    Boston Herald
    David and Trixie Burke
    CBS Corporation
    Camrose & Kross, LLC
    Carnegie Corporation of New York
    Chestnut Hill Charitable Foundation
    Citizens Bank Foundation
    Citizens Energy Corporation
    The Coca-Cola Company
    Communications Workers of America
    William F. and Margot C. Connell
    Jill Ker Conway
    T. Jefferson Coolidge/Coolidge Family Fund
    Corcoran Jennison Companies
    John and Diddy Cullinane
    Charles U. and Christine Sullivan Daly/The Daly Fund
    Marvin and Barbara Davis
    Paul A. Dever Fund
    C. Douglas Dillon/Dillon Fund
    Marilyn and Gerard F. Doherty
    Nancy and Richard K. Donahue
    John and Kathe Dyson
    EMC Corporation
    The Robert and Eleanor Edgren Trust
    Toni and Jack Fallon
    Law Offices of Kenneth R. Feinberg, PC
    Freedom Forum
    Irene Gardner
    General Dynamics
    Elma and Milton A. Gilbert
    Gillette
    Carol and Avram Goldberg
    Gourmet Caterers
    Katharine Graham
    Greenberg Traurig LLP
    Hachette Filipacchi Media U.S.
    Harper Collins and News Corporation
    Bill and Robie Harris
    The Hartford Financial Services Group, Inc.
    H.J. Heinz Company Foundation
    Carol and Patrick Hemingway
    Arnold Hiatt
    Ted Hoff and Kathleen O’Connell
    Nicole and Thomas J. Hynes, Jr.
    International Union of Bricklayers and Allied Craftworkers
    John Hancock Financial Services
    The Joyce Foundation
    Jurys Doyle Hotel Group
    Stanley A. Kamen
    W. K. Kellogg Foundation
    Gail and Paul G. Kirk, Jr.
    Philip H. Knight
    Marjorie Kovler Fund
    L’Oreal
    Joanna Lau/Lau Technologies
    Thomas H. Lee
    Liberty Mutual Group
    Lombard Family Foundation
    The Lowell Institute
    Carolyn and Peter S. Lynch
    The Lynch Foundation
    The John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation
    Kevin and Polly Maroni
    The Martin Agency
    Mellon New England
    Merrill Lynch & Co., Inc.
    Arthur and Kathryn Murray
    NSTAR
    National Amusements
    Rosemary and Thomas O’Keeffe
    Leon A. Pennington and Mary E. Pennington Trusts
    Michael, John and William Perik
    Richard and Sally Phelps
    Raytheon Company
    Red Sox Foundation
    Sumner M. Redstone
    Carol and Robert E. Riley
    Samalexa Charitable Foundation
    Save America’s Treasures
    Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr. Fund
    Serono, Inc.
    The Walter H. and Phyllis J. Shorenstein Foundation
    Susan and Alan Solomont
    Theodore C. Sorensen Fund
    The Tiffany & Co. Foundation
    United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America
    Universal Studios, Inc.
    Verizon
    Viacom
    WBUR/Boston University
    WCVB-TV/DT Channel 5
    Dr. An Wang
    Wasserman Foundation
    Susan and Donald M. Wilson
    Alicia and Vince Wolfington
    Yawkey Foundation II
    The Roy J. Zuckerberg Family Foundation

    Obviously, the JFK Family and all of the above named individuals and companies have joined
    the cover-up. I'm really suspicious of Anonymous.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Chuck Schuyler on Sat Jul 15 02:34:02 2023
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 9:31:05 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 3:53:01 PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 1:22:09 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    He's convicted historically, stupid.

    Look who's talking about being stupid.
    Innocent until convicted HISTORICALLY ?
    Where did I say innocent until convicted historically?
    WTF does that even mean ?
    It means Oswald as JFK's murderer has been settled--historically. It's part of the United States of America's official history.

    Notice that JFK's own library at https://www.jfklibrary.org/ links to the Warren Commission Report for interested parties to learn about JFK's murder. It doesn't link to your hobby website or Oliver Stone's fictional movie or Crossfire by the nutty Jim
    Marrs, etc. The library links to the findings here:

    https://www.jfklibrary.org/learn/about-jfk/jfk-in-history/november-22-1963-death-of-the-president

    The library addresses the "fourth shot" in the HSCA here:

    "Note to the reader: Point 1B in the link below to the findings of the 1979 House Select Committee on Assassinations states that the committee had found "a high probability that two gunmen fired" at the president. This conclusion resulted from the last-
    minute “discovery” of a Dallas police radio transmission tape that allegedly provided evidence that four or more shots were fired in Dealey Plaza. AFTER THE REPORT APPEARED IN PRINT, ACOUSTICS EXPERTS ANALYZED THE TAPE AND PROVED CONCLUSIVELY THAT IT
    WAS COMPLETELY WORTHLESS [emphasis mine]—thus negating the finding in Point 1B."

    Our National Archives make historical documents relevant to the mission of each presidential library available for researchers and visitors. See the library link here:

    https://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/visit

    The National Archives and Records Administration is an independent agency of our government:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Archives_and_Records_Administration

    Per Wikipedia, "The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) is an "independent federal agency of the United States government within the executive branch",[4] charged with the preservation and documentation of government and historical
    records."

    If a lie is told and the truth can't be proven, does the lie then become the truth ?
    Of course not.

    And what does it say about your mental state of mind when you're shown documents, testimony and exhibits that
    question Oswald's guilt, collected by your own Warren investgation, and you reject them and refuse to look at the
    links where they're located ?
    How can any reasonable person believe you people are right in the head ?
    What conspiracy, Gil? You can't even decide how it happened or who did it or how many shots were fired.
    They look at all the evidence in this context and must make the
    evidence fit their beliefs rather than making their beliefs fit the evidence. No matter what evidence they are presented with of
    Oswald's INNOCENCE, they will invent an excuse for disregarding it. If the
    evidence doesn't fit their preconceived belief in GUILT, it
    must be the evidence that is flawed. They are looking through the
    wrong end of the telescope. Is it any wonder they can't figure out
    such an open and shut case of a double murder.
    That's a gate that swings both ways, John.
    As you judge, so shall you be judged.

    ROFLMAO.
    Hey Gil, we all get it that Oswald didn't have his day in court. Stop putting him on trial at the newsgroup and trying to play Johnny Cochrane and raise reasonable doubt. JFK is dead and he's not coming back. Oswald is dead and he's not coming back.

    Oswald is guilty historically. If you can come up with a better conclusion that leaves less holes than the conclusion you disagree with, please share it right now.

    Come on, Chuck. Obviously the JFK Library and the National Archives have joined the multi-
    generational cover up.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Sky Throne 19efppp@21:1/5 to John Corbett on Sat Jul 15 02:45:55 2023
    On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 5:37:19 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 3:20:39 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 9:31:05 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 3:53:01 PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 1:22:09 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    He's convicted historically, stupid.

    Look who's talking about being stupid.
    Innocent until convicted HISTORICALLY ?
    Where did I say innocent until convicted historically?
    WTF does that even mean ?
    It means Oswald as JFK's murderer has been settled--historically. It's part of the United States of America's official history.

    Notice that JFK's own library at https://www.jfklibrary.org/ links to the Warren Commission Report for interested parties to learn about JFK's murder. It doesn't link to your hobby website or Oliver Stone's fictional movie or Crossfire by the nutty
    Jim Marrs, etc. The library links to the findings here:

    https://www.jfklibrary.org/learn/about-jfk/jfk-in-history/november-22-1963-death-of-the-president

    The library addresses the "fourth shot" in the HSCA here:

    "Note to the reader: Point 1B in the link below to the findings of the 1979 House Select Committee on Assassinations states that the committee had found "a high probability that two gunmen fired" at the president. This conclusion resulted from the
    last-minute “discovery” of a Dallas police radio transmission tape that allegedly provided evidence that four or more shots were fired in Dealey Plaza. AFTER THE REPORT APPEARED IN PRINT, ACOUSTICS EXPERTS ANALYZED THE TAPE AND PROVED CONCLUSIVELY
    THAT IT WAS COMPLETELY WORTHLESS [emphasis mine]—thus negating the finding in Point 1B."

    Our National Archives make historical documents relevant to the mission of each presidential library available for researchers and visitors. See the library link here:

    https://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/visit

    The National Archives and Records Administration is an independent agency of our government:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Archives_and_Records_Administration

    Per Wikipedia, "The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) is an "independent federal agency of the United States government within the executive branch",[4] charged with the preservation and documentation of government and historical
    records."

    If a lie is told and the truth can't be proven, does the lie then become the truth ?
    Of course not.

    And what does it say about your mental state of mind when you're shown documents, testimony and exhibits that
    question Oswald's guilt, collected by your own Warren investgation, and you reject them and refuse to look at the
    links where they're located ?
    How can any reasonable person believe you people are right in the head ?
    What conspiracy, Gil? You can't even decide how it happened or who did it or how many shots were fired.
    They look at all the evidence in this context and must make the
    evidence fit their beliefs rather than making their beliefs fit the evidence. No matter what evidence they are presented with of Oswald's INNOCENCE, they will invent an excuse for disregarding it. If the
    evidence doesn't fit their preconceived belief in GUILT, it
    must be the evidence that is flawed. They are looking through the wrong end of the telescope. Is it any wonder they can't figure out such an open and shut case of a double murder.
    That's a gate that swings both ways, John.
    As you judge, so shall you be judged.

    ROFLMAO.
    Hey Gil, we all get it that Oswald didn't have his day in court. Stop putting him on trial at the newsgroup and trying to play Johnny Cochrane and raise reasonable doubt. JFK is dead and he's not coming back. Oswald is dead and he's not coming back.


    Oswald is guilty historically. If you can come up with a better conclusion that leaves less holes than the conclusion you disagree with, please share it right now.
    JFK's "own library?"

    Founding Benefactors of the John F. Kennedy Library Foundation

    The Family of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy

    and

    AT&T
    Altria Group, Inc.
    American Airlines
    Anonymous
    The Armand Hammer Foundation
    Bank of America
    Best Buy Co., Inc.
    Blue Cross Blue Shield of Massachusetts
    David and Mary Boies/Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP
    Boston 2004, Inc.
    Jack Manning/Boston Capital Foundation
    The Boston Foundation
    The Boston Globe
    Boston Herald
    David and Trixie Burke
    CBS Corporation
    Camrose & Kross, LLC
    Carnegie Corporation of New York
    Chestnut Hill Charitable Foundation
    Citizens Bank Foundation
    Citizens Energy Corporation
    The Coca-Cola Company
    Communications Workers of America
    William F. and Margot C. Connell
    Jill Ker Conway
    T. Jefferson Coolidge/Coolidge Family Fund
    Corcoran Jennison Companies
    John and Diddy Cullinane
    Charles U. and Christine Sullivan Daly/The Daly Fund
    Marvin and Barbara Davis
    Paul A. Dever Fund
    C. Douglas Dillon/Dillon Fund
    Marilyn and Gerard F. Doherty
    Nancy and Richard K. Donahue
    John and Kathe Dyson
    EMC Corporation
    The Robert and Eleanor Edgren Trust
    Toni and Jack Fallon
    Law Offices of Kenneth R. Feinberg, PC
    Freedom Forum
    Irene Gardner
    General Dynamics
    Elma and Milton A. Gilbert
    Gillette
    Carol and Avram Goldberg
    Gourmet Caterers
    Katharine Graham
    Greenberg Traurig LLP
    Hachette Filipacchi Media U.S.
    Harper Collins and News Corporation
    Bill and Robie Harris
    The Hartford Financial Services Group, Inc.
    H.J. Heinz Company Foundation
    Carol and Patrick Hemingway
    Arnold Hiatt
    Ted Hoff and Kathleen O’Connell
    Nicole and Thomas J. Hynes, Jr.
    International Union of Bricklayers and Allied Craftworkers
    John Hancock Financial Services
    The Joyce Foundation
    Jurys Doyle Hotel Group
    Stanley A. Kamen
    W. K. Kellogg Foundation
    Gail and Paul G. Kirk, Jr.
    Philip H. Knight
    Marjorie Kovler Fund
    L’Oreal
    Joanna Lau/Lau Technologies
    Thomas H. Lee
    Liberty Mutual Group
    Lombard Family Foundation
    The Lowell Institute
    Carolyn and Peter S. Lynch
    The Lynch Foundation
    The John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation
    Kevin and Polly Maroni
    The Martin Agency
    Mellon New England
    Merrill Lynch & Co., Inc.
    Arthur and Kathryn Murray
    NSTAR
    National Amusements
    Rosemary and Thomas O’Keeffe
    Leon A. Pennington and Mary E. Pennington Trusts
    Michael, John and William Perik
    Richard and Sally Phelps
    Raytheon Company
    Red Sox Foundation
    Sumner M. Redstone
    Carol and Robert E. Riley
    Samalexa Charitable Foundation
    Save America’s Treasures
    Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr. Fund
    Serono, Inc.
    The Walter H. and Phyllis J. Shorenstein Foundation
    Susan and Alan Solomont
    Theodore C. Sorensen Fund
    The Tiffany & Co. Foundation
    United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America
    Universal Studios, Inc.
    Verizon
    Viacom
    WBUR/Boston University
    WCVB-TV/DT Channel 5
    Dr. An Wang
    Wasserman Foundation
    Susan and Donald M. Wilson
    Alicia and Vince Wolfington
    Yawkey Foundation II
    The Roy J. Zuckerberg Family Foundation
    Obviously, the JFK Family and all of the above named individuals and companies have joined
    the cover-up. I'm really suspicious of Anonymous.

    Obviously, you're too stupid to understand that the JFK Library is an establishment corporate entity, not a little family library looking after the interests of the murdered president or the interests of the American people. With sponsors like Raytheon
    and General Dynamics, there is not going to be any funding of the truth about the assassination. The Merchants of Death pay the bills at JFK"s "own library."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Gil Jesus@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 15 03:26:21 2023
    On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 5:45:57 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    Obviously, you're too stupid to understand that the JFK Library is an establishment corporate entity, not a little family library looking after the interests of the murdered president or the interests of the American people. With sponsors like Raytheon
    and General Dynamics, there is not going to be any funding of the truth about the assassination. The Merchants of Death pay the bills at JFK"s "own library."

    These lone nutters are too stupid ( ignorant ) to know a lot of things.
    They come in here and argue about topics they have no knowledge of.
    Not only are there corporate benefactors involved in the JFK library, it, like all Presidential Libraries, is under the administration
    of the National Archives, not the Kennedy family.

    Corbett didn't even know THAT.

    Thank goodness he doesn't care about this subject anymore.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Steven Galbraith@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Sat Jul 15 06:15:20 2023
    On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 6:26:23 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 5:45:57 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    Obviously, you're too stupid to understand that the JFK Library is an establishment corporate entity, not a little family library looking after the interests of the murdered president or the interests of the American people. With sponsors like
    Raytheon and General Dynamics, there is not going to be any funding of the truth about the assassination. The Merchants of Death pay the bills at JFK"s "own library."
    These lone nutters are too stupid ( ignorant ) to know a lot of things.
    They come in here and argue about topics they have no knowledge of.
    Not only are there corporate benefactors involved in the JFK library, it, like all Presidential Libraries, is under the administration
    of the National Archives, not the Kennedy family.

    Corbett didn't even know THAT.

    Thank goodness he doesn't care about this subject anymore.
    You said the "Russians got it right" in their investigation, the one that concluded (four days after the assassination) that the CIA killed JFK. Then you admitted you knew nothing about their investigation. The same one you said "got it right." You had
    no questions about how they conducted it, whether they had any legal protections for the people they accused, whether their procedures were fair and impartial. None at all. But you not only didn't question it, you fully accepted it.
    Then you said the Birchers killed JFK, that they were *allowed* to do so because the militarists in Washington who wanted war needed to get rid of JFK. So they "let" the Birchers do this. Including people like Earl Warren. The Birchers are not the CIA
    and the CIA is not the Birchers. But you think both killed JFK. Then you recently said the anti-Castro Cubans killed JFK They are not, of course, the Birchers.
    You accuse lone assassin believers of being Neo Nazis and not recognizing that Oswald is innocent until proven guilty. Yet you and you fellow conspiracists accuse all sorts of people of murdering JFK without the slightest concern about "innocent until
    proven guilty." And you embrace an investigation by a monstrous regime - the Soviets - without the slightest interest in whether it was fairly done. There may be more shameless people on the internet but you are difficult to top.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Steven Galbraith on Sat Jul 15 06:17:54 2023
    On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 9:15:22 AM UTC-4, Steven Galbraith wrote:
    On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 6:26:23 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 5:45:57 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    Obviously, you're too stupid to understand that the JFK Library is an establishment corporate entity, not a little family library looking after the interests of the murdered president or the interests of the American people. With sponsors like
    Raytheon and General Dynamics, there is not going to be any funding of the truth about the assassination. The Merchants of Death pay the bills at JFK"s "own library."
    These lone nutters are too stupid ( ignorant ) to know a lot of things. They come in here and argue about topics they have no knowledge of.
    Not only are there corporate benefactors involved in the JFK library, it, like all Presidential Libraries, is under the administration
    of the National Archives, not the Kennedy family.

    Corbett didn't even know THAT.

    Thank goodness he doesn't care about this subject anymore.
    You said the "Russians got it right" in their investigation, the one that concluded (four days after the assassination) that the CIA killed JFK. Then you admitted you knew nothing about their investigation. The same one you said "got it right." You had
    no questions about how they conducted it, whether they had any legal protections for the people they accused, whether their procedures were fair and impartial. None at all. But you not only didn't question it, you fully accepted it.
    Then you said the Birchers killed JFK, that they were *allowed* to do so because the militarists in Washington who wanted war needed to get rid of JFK. So they "let" the Birchers do this. Including people like Earl Warren. The Birchers are not the CIA
    and the CIA is not the Birchers. But you think both killed JFK. Then you recently said the anti-Castro Cubans killed JFK They are not, of course, the Birchers.
    You accuse lone assassin believers of being Neo Nazis and not recognizing that Oswald is innocent until proven guilty. Yet you and you fellow conspiracists accuse all sorts of people of murdering JFK without the slightest concern about "innocent until
    proven guilty." And you embrace an investigation by a monstrous regime - the Soviets - without the slightest interest in whether it was fairly done. There may be more shameless people on the internet but you are difficult to top.

    Looks like it's time for Gil to bail out of another thread after his hypocrisy has been exposed.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Gil Jesus on Sat Jul 15 06:27:58 2023
    On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 6:26:23 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 5:45:57 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    Obviously, you're too stupid to understand that the JFK Library is an establishment corporate entity, not a little family library looking after the interests of the murdered president or the interests of the American people. With sponsors like
    Raytheon and General Dynamics, there is not going to be any funding of the truth about the assassination. The Merchants of Death pay the bills at JFK"s "own library."
    These lone nutters are too stupid ( ignorant ) to know a lot of things.
    They come in here and argue about topics they have no knowledge of.
    Not only are there corporate benefactors involved in the JFK library, it, like all Presidential Libraries, is under the administration
    of the National Archives, not the Kennedy family.

    Corbett didn't even know THAT.

    Thank goodness he doesn't care about this subject anymore.

    I know that presidential libraries are supervised by the National Archives and were established
    as repositories for official presidential documents that had once been the private property of
    US presidents. They are funded privately but that does not give the benefactors control over
    their content. When you look at the number and variety of donors who contributed to the JFK
    Library, it is silly to think that any one donor could exert such control. Gil of course doesn't care
    about that. He just needs and excuse to dismiss anything that challenges his silly idea that
    Oswald was innocent.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Steven Galbraith@21:1/5 to John Corbett on Sat Jul 15 06:35:51 2023
    On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 9:17:56 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
    On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 9:15:22 AM UTC-4, Steven Galbraith wrote:
    On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 6:26:23 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 5:45:57 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    Obviously, you're too stupid to understand that the JFK Library is an establishment corporate entity, not a little family library looking after the interests of the murdered president or the interests of the American people. With sponsors like
    Raytheon and General Dynamics, there is not going to be any funding of the truth about the assassination. The Merchants of Death pay the bills at JFK"s "own library."
    These lone nutters are too stupid ( ignorant ) to know a lot of things. They come in here and argue about topics they have no knowledge of.
    Not only are there corporate benefactors involved in the JFK library, it, like all Presidential Libraries, is under the administration
    of the National Archives, not the Kennedy family.

    Corbett didn't even know THAT.

    Thank goodness he doesn't care about this subject anymore.
    You said the "Russians got it right" in their investigation, the one that concluded (four days after the assassination) that the CIA killed JFK. Then you admitted you knew nothing about their investigation. The same one you said "got it right." You
    had no questions about how they conducted it, whether they had any legal protections for the people they accused, whether their procedures were fair and impartial. None at all. But you not only didn't question it, you fully accepted it.
    Then you said the Birchers killed JFK, that they were *allowed* to do so because the militarists in Washington who wanted war needed to get rid of JFK. So they "let" the Birchers do this. Including people like Earl Warren. The Birchers are not the
    CIA and the CIA is not the Birchers. But you think both killed JFK. Then you recently said the anti-Castro Cubans killed JFK They are not, of course, the Birchers.
    You accuse lone assassin believers of being Neo Nazis and not recognizing that Oswald is innocent until proven guilty. Yet you and you fellow conspiracists accuse all sorts of people of murdering JFK without the slightest concern about "innocent
    until proven guilty." And you embrace an investigation by a monstrous regime - the Soviets - without the slightest interest in whether it was fairly done. There may be more shameless people on the internet but you are difficult to top.
    Looks like it's time for Gil to bail out of another thread after his hypocrisy has been exposed.
    Appears so. Again, conspiracists like him accuse all sorts of people, important and not so important, of being involved in the assassination. People like Ruth Paine most notably (she supposedly set Oswald up with the job). Does he lecture them on
    violating the "innocent until proven guilty" rule he uses for Oswald? Answer: No.
    And I won't even repeat the Russian example. Nobody believes they conducted a fair investigation.

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  • From Chuck Schuyler@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 15 07:29:32 2023
    On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 2:20:39 AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 9:31:05 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 3:53:01 PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 1:22:09 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    He's convicted historically, stupid.

    Look who's talking about being stupid.
    Innocent until convicted HISTORICALLY ?
    Where did I say innocent until convicted historically?
    WTF does that even mean ?
    It means Oswald as JFK's murderer has been settled--historically. It's part of the United States of America's official history.

    Notice that JFK's own library at https://www.jfklibrary.org/ links to the Warren Commission Report for interested parties to learn about JFK's murder. It doesn't link to your hobby website or Oliver Stone's fictional movie or Crossfire by the nutty
    Jim Marrs, etc. The library links to the findings here:

    https://www.jfklibrary.org/learn/about-jfk/jfk-in-history/november-22-1963-death-of-the-president

    The library addresses the "fourth shot" in the HSCA here:

    "Note to the reader: Point 1B in the link below to the findings of the 1979 House Select Committee on Assassinations states that the committee had found "a high probability that two gunmen fired" at the president. This conclusion resulted from the
    last-minute “discovery” of a Dallas police radio transmission tape that allegedly provided evidence that four or more shots were fired in Dealey Plaza. AFTER THE REPORT APPEARED IN PRINT, ACOUSTICS EXPERTS ANALYZED THE TAPE AND PROVED CONCLUSIVELY
    THAT IT WAS COMPLETELY WORTHLESS [emphasis mine]—thus negating the finding in Point 1B."

    Our National Archives make historical documents relevant to the mission of each presidential library available for researchers and visitors. See the library link here:

    https://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/visit

    The National Archives and Records Administration is an independent agency of our government:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Archives_and_Records_Administration

    Per Wikipedia, "The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) is an "independent federal agency of the United States government within the executive branch",[4] charged with the preservation and documentation of government and historical
    records."

    If a lie is told and the truth can't be proven, does the lie then become the truth ?
    Of course not.

    And what does it say about your mental state of mind when you're shown documents, testimony and exhibits that
    question Oswald's guilt, collected by your own Warren investgation, and you reject them and refuse to look at the
    links where they're located ?
    How can any reasonable person believe you people are right in the head ?
    What conspiracy, Gil? You can't even decide how it happened or who did it or how many shots were fired.
    They look at all the evidence in this context and must make the
    evidence fit their beliefs rather than making their beliefs fit the evidence. No matter what evidence they are presented with of
    Oswald's INNOCENCE, they will invent an excuse for disregarding it. If the
    evidence doesn't fit their preconceived belief in GUILT, it
    must be the evidence that is flawed. They are looking through the wrong end of the telescope. Is it any wonder they can't figure out such an open and shut case of a double murder.
    That's a gate that swings both ways, John.
    As you judge, so shall you be judged.

    ROFLMAO.
    Hey Gil, we all get it that Oswald didn't have his day in court. Stop putting him on trial at the newsgroup and trying to play Johnny Cochrane and raise reasonable doubt. JFK is dead and he's not coming back. Oswald is dead and he's not coming back.

    Oswald is guilty historically. If you can come up with a better conclusion that leaves less holes than the conclusion you disagree with, please share it right now.
    JFK's "own library?"

    Founding Benefactors of the John F. Kennedy Library Foundation

    The Family of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy

    and

    AT&T
    Altria Group, Inc.
    American Airlines
    Anonymous
    The Armand Hammer Foundation
    Bank of America
    Best Buy Co., Inc.
    Blue Cross Blue Shield of Massachusetts
    David and Mary Boies/Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP
    Boston 2004, Inc.
    Jack Manning/Boston Capital Foundation
    The Boston Foundation
    The Boston Globe
    Boston Herald
    David and Trixie Burke
    CBS Corporation
    Camrose & Kross, LLC
    Carnegie Corporation of New York
    Chestnut Hill Charitable Foundation
    Citizens Bank Foundation
    Citizens Energy Corporation
    The Coca-Cola Company
    Communications Workers of America
    William F. and Margot C. Connell
    Jill Ker Conway
    T. Jefferson Coolidge/Coolidge Family Fund
    Corcoran Jennison Companies
    John and Diddy Cullinane
    Charles U. and Christine Sullivan Daly/The Daly Fund
    Marvin and Barbara Davis
    Paul A. Dever Fund
    C. Douglas Dillon/Dillon Fund
    Marilyn and Gerard F. Doherty
    Nancy and Richard K. Donahue
    John and Kathe Dyson
    EMC Corporation
    The Robert and Eleanor Edgren Trust
    Toni and Jack Fallon
    Law Offices of Kenneth R. Feinberg, PC
    Freedom Forum
    Irene Gardner
    General Dynamics
    Elma and Milton A. Gilbert
    Gillette
    Carol and Avram Goldberg
    Gourmet Caterers
    Katharine Graham
    Greenberg Traurig LLP
    Hachette Filipacchi Media U.S.
    Harper Collins and News Corporation
    Bill and Robie Harris
    The Hartford Financial Services Group, Inc.
    H.J. Heinz Company Foundation
    Carol and Patrick Hemingway
    Arnold Hiatt
    Ted Hoff and Kathleen O’Connell
    Nicole and Thomas J. Hynes, Jr.
    International Union of Bricklayers and Allied Craftworkers
    John Hancock Financial Services
    The Joyce Foundation
    Jurys Doyle Hotel Group
    Stanley A. Kamen
    W. K. Kellogg Foundation
    Gail and Paul G. Kirk, Jr.
    Philip H. Knight
    Marjorie Kovler Fund
    L’Oreal
    Joanna Lau/Lau Technologies
    Thomas H. Lee
    Liberty Mutual Group
    Lombard Family Foundation
    The Lowell Institute
    Carolyn and Peter S. Lynch
    The Lynch Foundation
    The John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation
    Kevin and Polly Maroni
    The Martin Agency
    Mellon New England
    Merrill Lynch & Co., Inc.
    Arthur and Kathryn Murray
    NSTAR
    National Amusements
    Rosemary and Thomas O’Keeffe
    Leon A. Pennington and Mary E. Pennington Trusts
    Michael, John and William Perik
    Richard and Sally Phelps
    Raytheon Company
    Red Sox Foundation
    Sumner M. Redstone
    Carol and Robert E. Riley
    Samalexa Charitable Foundation
    Save America’s Treasures
    Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr. Fund
    Serono, Inc.
    The Walter H. and Phyllis J. Shorenstein Foundation
    Susan and Alan Solomont
    Theodore C. Sorensen Fund
    The Tiffany & Co. Foundation
    United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America
    Universal Studios, Inc.
    Verizon
    Viacom
    WBUR/Boston University
    WCVB-TV/DT Channel 5
    Dr. An Wang
    Wasserman Foundation
    Susan and Donald M. Wilson
    Alicia and Vince Wolfington
    Yawkey Foundation II
    The Roy J. Zuckerberg Family Foundation

    How terrible that the above entities--non profits, corporations, sports teams and so on--want to contribute time, money and resources to preserving our national history.

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  • From Chuck Schuyler@21:1/5 to John Corbett on Sat Jul 15 07:37:41 2023
    On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 4:34:04 AM UTC-5, John Corbett wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 9:31:05 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 3:53:01 PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 1:22:09 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    He's convicted historically, stupid.

    Look who's talking about being stupid.
    Innocent until convicted HISTORICALLY ?
    Where did I say innocent until convicted historically?
    WTF does that even mean ?
    It means Oswald as JFK's murderer has been settled--historically. It's part of the United States of America's official history.

    Notice that JFK's own library at https://www.jfklibrary.org/ links to the Warren Commission Report for interested parties to learn about JFK's murder. It doesn't link to your hobby website or Oliver Stone's fictional movie or Crossfire by the nutty
    Jim Marrs, etc. The library links to the findings here:

    https://www.jfklibrary.org/learn/about-jfk/jfk-in-history/november-22-1963-death-of-the-president

    The library addresses the "fourth shot" in the HSCA here:

    "Note to the reader: Point 1B in the link below to the findings of the 1979 House Select Committee on Assassinations states that the committee had found "a high probability that two gunmen fired" at the president. This conclusion resulted from the
    last-minute “discovery” of a Dallas police radio transmission tape that allegedly provided evidence that four or more shots were fired in Dealey Plaza. AFTER THE REPORT APPEARED IN PRINT, ACOUSTICS EXPERTS ANALYZED THE TAPE AND PROVED CONCLUSIVELY
    THAT IT WAS COMPLETELY WORTHLESS [emphasis mine]—thus negating the finding in Point 1B."

    Our National Archives make historical documents relevant to the mission of each presidential library available for researchers and visitors. See the library link here:

    https://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/visit

    The National Archives and Records Administration is an independent agency of our government:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Archives_and_Records_Administration

    Per Wikipedia, "The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) is an "independent federal agency of the United States government within the executive branch",[4] charged with the preservation and documentation of government and historical
    records."

    If a lie is told and the truth can't be proven, does the lie then become the truth ?
    Of course not.

    And what does it say about your mental state of mind when you're shown documents, testimony and exhibits that
    question Oswald's guilt, collected by your own Warren investgation, and you reject them and refuse to look at the
    links where they're located ?
    How can any reasonable person believe you people are right in the head ?
    What conspiracy, Gil? You can't even decide how it happened or who did it or how many shots were fired.
    They look at all the evidence in this context and must make the
    evidence fit their beliefs rather than making their beliefs fit the evidence. No matter what evidence they are presented with of
    Oswald's INNOCENCE, they will invent an excuse for disregarding it. If the
    evidence doesn't fit their preconceived belief in GUILT, it
    must be the evidence that is flawed. They are looking through the wrong end of the telescope. Is it any wonder they can't figure out such an open and shut case of a double murder.
    That's a gate that swings both ways, John.
    As you judge, so shall you be judged.

    ROFLMAO.
    Hey Gil, we all get it that Oswald didn't have his day in court. Stop putting him on trial at the newsgroup and trying to play Johnny Cochrane and raise reasonable doubt. JFK is dead and he's not coming back. Oswald is dead and he's not coming back.

    Oswald is guilty historically. If you can come up with a better conclusion that leaves less holes than the conclusion you disagree with, please share it right now.
    Come on, Chuck. Obviously the JFK Library and the National Archives have joined the multi-
    generational cover up.

    Lol.

    Oswald isn't criminally guilty, but he sure as hell is historically guilty. And that's unlikely to change unless these losers can start putting together an assassination theory that is more credible than the historically accepted scenario: Oswald alone,
    no KNOWN help.

    Get busy Gil.

    John Wilkes Booth never had a trial.
    Mohammad Atta and the 9/11 hijackers on those doomed flights never had a trial.

    They didn't get a day in court, but the verdict of history is that they are GUILTY.

    Lee Harvey Oswald is guilty of killing JFK and Tippit through multiple investigations and through the verdict of history.

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  • From Steven Galbraith@21:1/5 to Chuck Schuyler on Sat Jul 15 07:45:00 2023
    On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 10:37:43 AM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 4:34:04 AM UTC-5, John Corbett wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 9:31:05 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 3:53:01 PM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 1:22:09 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    He's convicted historically, stupid.

    Look who's talking about being stupid.
    Innocent until convicted HISTORICALLY ?
    Where did I say innocent until convicted historically?
    WTF does that even mean ?
    It means Oswald as JFK's murderer has been settled--historically. It's part of the United States of America's official history.

    Notice that JFK's own library at https://www.jfklibrary.org/ links to the Warren Commission Report for interested parties to learn about JFK's murder. It doesn't link to your hobby website or Oliver Stone's fictional movie or Crossfire by the nutty
    Jim Marrs, etc. The library links to the findings here:

    https://www.jfklibrary.org/learn/about-jfk/jfk-in-history/november-22-1963-death-of-the-president

    The library addresses the "fourth shot" in the HSCA here:

    "Note to the reader: Point 1B in the link below to the findings of the 1979 House Select Committee on Assassinations states that the committee had found "a high probability that two gunmen fired" at the president. This conclusion resulted from the
    last-minute “discovery” of a Dallas police radio transmission tape that allegedly provided evidence that four or more shots were fired in Dealey Plaza. AFTER THE REPORT APPEARED IN PRINT, ACOUSTICS EXPERTS ANALYZED THE TAPE AND PROVED CONCLUSIVELY
    THAT IT WAS COMPLETELY WORTHLESS [emphasis mine]—thus negating the finding in Point 1B."

    Our National Archives make historical documents relevant to the mission of each presidential library available for researchers and visitors. See the library link here:

    https://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/visit

    The National Archives and Records Administration is an independent agency of our government:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Archives_and_Records_Administration

    Per Wikipedia, "The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) is an "independent federal agency of the United States government within the executive branch",[4] charged with the preservation and documentation of government and historical
    records."

    If a lie is told and the truth can't be proven, does the lie then become the truth ?
    Of course not.

    And what does it say about your mental state of mind when you're shown documents, testimony and exhibits that
    question Oswald's guilt, collected by your own Warren investgation, and you reject them and refuse to look at the
    links where they're located ?
    How can any reasonable person believe you people are right in the head ?
    What conspiracy, Gil? You can't even decide how it happened or who did it or how many shots were fired.
    They look at all the evidence in this context and must make the
    evidence fit their beliefs rather than making their beliefs fit the evidence. No matter what evidence they are presented with of Oswald's INNOCENCE, they will invent an excuse for disregarding it. If the
    evidence doesn't fit their preconceived belief in GUILT, it
    must be the evidence that is flawed. They are looking through the wrong end of the telescope. Is it any wonder they can't figure out such an open and shut case of a double murder.
    That's a gate that swings both ways, John.
    As you judge, so shall you be judged.

    ROFLMAO.
    Hey Gil, we all get it that Oswald didn't have his day in court. Stop putting him on trial at the newsgroup and trying to play Johnny Cochrane and raise reasonable doubt. JFK is dead and he's not coming back. Oswald is dead and he's not coming back.


    Oswald is guilty historically. If you can come up with a better conclusion that leaves less holes than the conclusion you disagree with, please share it right now.
    Come on, Chuck. Obviously the JFK Library and the National Archives have joined the multi-
    generational cover up.
    Lol.

    Oswald isn't criminally guilty, but he sure as hell is historically guilty. And that's unlikely to change unless these losers can start putting together an assassination theory that is more credible than the historically accepted scenario: Oswald alone,
    no KNOWN help.

    Get busy Gil.

    John Wilkes Booth never had a trial.
    Mohammad Atta and the 9/11 hijackers on those doomed flights never had a trial.

    They didn't get a day in court, but the verdict of history is that they are GUILTY.

    Lee Harvey Oswald is guilty of killing JFK and Tippit through multiple investigations and through the verdict of history.
    LBJ didn't have a trial but that doesn't prevent them from saying he was involved. Hoover, McCone, Dulles. They say Ruth Paine set Oswald up by getting him the job at the TSBD. He doesn't say that's wrong. He says all sorts of people were involved in
    killing JFK. He never uses that court standard himself. It's wrong for us to say Oswald was guilty but it's okay for him to say others were? Is this his standard?

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 19 07:03:38 2023
    On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 11:54:55 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirslick@fast.net>
    wrote:

    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 2:51:06?PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 10:22:09?AM UTC-7, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 11:02:37?AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    They look at all the evidence in this context and must make the
    evidence fit their beliefs rather than making their beliefs fit the
    evidence. No matter what evidence they are presented with of
    Oswald's guilt, they will invent an excuse for disregarding it. If the >>>>> evidence doesn't fit their preconceived belief in a conspiracy, it
    must be the evidence that is flawed. They are looking through the
    wrong end of the telescope. Is it any wonder they can't figure out
    such an open and shut case of a double murder.

    Corbutt continues to act as if Oswald was convicted,
    He's convicted historically
    By "historically", however, you can't mean by the periodic polls

    What do those polls say about Oswald`s guilt?


    If you were honest, you'd ask what they say about Oswald's *SOLE*
    guilt.

    But you aren't honest enough to do so..

    You lose.


    or by the number of books on the subject.


    Logical fallacy deleted.


    You mean "convicted" by the best minds in America, at least in their own eyes. (OK, minds don't have eyes)
    , stupid. No one pretends he had a criminal trial.
    yet cannor cite
    any evidence showing why he should have been.
    Fringe reset.

    Read it and weep:

    https://www.govinfo.gov/features/warren-commission-report-and-hearings

    The cowardice is just shocking!
    Indeed!

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to stevemgalbraith@yahoo.com on Wed Jul 19 07:03:38 2023
    On Sat, 15 Jul 2023 06:15:20 -0700 (PDT), Steven Galbraith <stevemgalbraith@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 6:26:23?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
    On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 5:45:57?AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote: >>> Obviously, you're too stupid to understand that the JFK Library is an establishment corporate entity, not a little family library looking after the interests of the murdered president or the interests of the American people. With sponsors like
    Raytheon and General Dynamics, there is not going to be any funding of the truth about the assassination. The Merchants of Death pay the bills at JFK"s "own library."
    These lone nutters are too stupid ( ignorant ) to know a lot of things.
    They come in here and argue about topics they have no knowledge of.
    Not only are there corporate benefactors involved in the JFK library, it, like all Presidential Libraries, is under the administration
    of the National Archives, not the Kennedy family.

    Corbett didn't even know THAT.

    Thank goodness he doesn't care about this subject anymore.

    You said ...

    Logical fallacy deleted.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to geowright1963@gmail.com on Wed Jul 19 07:03:38 2023
    On Sat, 15 Jul 2023 06:17:54 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <geowright1963@gmail.com> wrote:


    Looks like it's time for Gil to bail out of another thread after his hypocrisy has been exposed.

    Cite where that happened.

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to chuckschuyler123@gmail.com on Wed Jul 19 07:03:38 2023
    On Sat, 15 Jul 2023 07:29:32 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler <chuckschuyler123@gmail.com> wrote:


    How terrible that the above entities--non profits, corporations, sports teams and so on--want to contribute time, money and resources to preserving our national history.

    You can't seem to make up your mind.

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