• What ROKC Troll And Coward Alex Wilson Could Not Answer

    From Brian Doyle@21:1/5 to robert johnson on Mon Jul 10 07:01:47 2023
    On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 8:47:32 AM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:
    On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 9:28:47 PM UTC+1, Brian Doyle wrote:




    Lovelady did not say that!
    You are lying!



    It is right there word for word in Lovelady's March 19th 1964 FBI statement...All Robert Johnson is is an unbanned ROKC nay-say troll...Lovelady says he was up against the wall to the far right of the entranceway and Stanton was next to him...Denying
    what is is the easily-accessible record is kinda stupid...



    The Hughes film is too bad of quality to show anything behind Lovelady.
    You are lying Brian Doyle.



    Not with Davidson's enhancement you technical moron...Hughes is at the time that Lovelady said Stanton was next to him...




    Chris Davidson did not such a thing.
    You are lying Brian Doyle.



    You are not paying attention to your denial trolling Robert...If you trolled a little less stupidly and paid more attention to what I actually said, it was my point exactly that Davidson failed to apply his digital enhancement process to Hughes where he
    could have produced Stanton in the Prayer Man spot 9 seconds before Wiegman...Showing Stanton in the Prayer Man spot where Lovelady said she was in his March 19th statement is proof that Prayer Man is Stanton...


    You trolls also failed to answer the fact Owens shows an elbow length sleeve on Stanton that perfectly matches the elbow-length sleeve on Prayer Man...


    I'd like to ask Sandy Larsen, Mark Knight, and James Gordon what the purpose is of keeping the discovery of Stanton's elbow-length sleeve on Prayer Man from the Education Forum while they allow Parker-proxies Bojzcuk and Odisio infect the Forum with
    already-disproven claims?...

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  • From robert johnson@21:1/5 to Brian Doyle on Mon Jul 10 07:53:58 2023
    On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 3:01:49 PM UTC+1, Brian Doyle wrote:
    On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 8:47:32 AM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:
    On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 9:28:47 PM UTC+1, Brian Doyle wrote:




    Lovelady did not say that!
    You are lying!
    It is right there word for word in Lovelady's March 19th 1964 FBI statement...All Robert Johnson is is an unbanned ROKC nay-say troll...Lovelady says he was up against the wall to the far right of the entranceway and Stanton was next to him...Denying
    what is is the easily-accessible record is kinda stupid...

    The Hughes film is too bad of quality to show anything behind Lovelady. You are lying Brian Doyle.
    Not with Davidson's enhancement you technical moron...Hughes is at the time that Lovelady said Stanton was next to him...

    Chris Davidson did not such a thing.
    You are lying Brian Doyle.
    You are not paying attention to your denial trolling Robert...If you trolled a little less stupidly and paid more attention to what I actually said, it was my point exactly that Davidson failed to apply his digital enhancement process to Hughes where
    he could have produced Stanton in the Prayer Man spot 9 seconds before Wiegman...Showing Stanton in the Prayer Man spot where Lovelady said she was in his March 19th statement is proof that Prayer Man is Stanton...


    You trolls also failed to answer the fact Owens shows an elbow length sleeve on Stanton that perfectly matches the elbow-length sleeve on Prayer Man...


    I'd like to ask Sandy Larsen, Mark Knight, and James Gordon what the purpose is of keeping the discovery of Stanton's elbow-length sleeve on Prayer Man from the Education Forum while they allow Parker-proxies Bojzcuk and Odisio infect the Forum with
    already-disproven claims?...


    YOU ARE LYING DOYLE!!!

    "Lovelady says he was up against the wall to the far right of the entranceway and Stanton was next to him."
    Lovelady did not say that at any time in his wc testimony

    https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh6/pdf/WH6_Lovelady.pdf

    This how this works you dumb cunt, you quote the evidence.

    ___________________________________________________

    Davidson's enhancement is complete bullshit DOYLE

    NO ONE CAN SEE ANYTHING, NOT EVEN YOU YOU FAKER SIMPLY BECAUSE IT DOES NOT EXIST!!!!

    YOU ARE LYING AGAIN CUNT FACE DOYLE!!!!

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  • From Brian Doyle@21:1/5 to robert johnson on Mon Jul 10 08:12:50 2023
    On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 10:54:00 AM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:
    On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 3:01:49 PM UTC+1, Brian Doyle wrote:
    On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 8:47:32 AM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:





    YOU ARE LYING DOYLE!!!
    "Lovelady says he was up against the wall to the far right of the entranceway and Stanton was next to him."
    Lovelady did not say that at any time in his wc testimony

    https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh6/pdf/WH6_Lovelady.pdf




    That isn't Lovelady's March 19th 1964 statement to FBI you utter moron...If you bothered to look up that statement you would find it quoted Lovelady saying what I wrote letter for letter...


    Greg Parker's troll farm generates some pretty demented sick pups and Robert Johnson is a good example...


    Your replies show a serious lack of mental competency Robert...My statement that Davidson's enhancement would bring out Stanton in Hughes is technically correct so you have failed to give a coherent, rational answer to what I wrote...Davidson will not be
    asked to apply his process to Hughes because the organized criminals on the Education Forum know it will prove me correct and show Stanton in the Prayer Man spot 9 seconds before Wiegman Z256...

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  • From robert johnson@21:1/5 to Brian Doyle on Mon Jul 10 11:33:30 2023
    On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 4:12:52 PM UTC+1, Brian Doyle wrote:
    On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 10:54:00 AM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:
    On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 3:01:49 PM UTC+1, Brian Doyle wrote:
    On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 8:47:32 AM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:





    YOU ARE LYING DOYLE!!!
    "Lovelady says he was up against the wall to the far right of the entranceway and Stanton was next to him."
    Lovelady did not say that at any time in his wc testimony

    https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh6/pdf/WH6_Lovelady.pdf

    That isn't Lovelady's March 19th 1964 statement to FBI you utter moron...If you bothered to look up that statement you would find it quoted Lovelady saying what I wrote letter for letter...


    Greg Parker's troll farm generates some pretty demented sick pups and Robert Johnson is a good example...


    Your replies show a serious lack of mental competency Robert...My statement that Davidson's enhancement would bring out Stanton in Hughes is technically correct so you have failed to give a coherent, rational answer to what I wrote...Davidson will not
    be asked to apply his process to Hughes because the organized criminals on the Education Forum know it will prove me correct and show Stanton in the Prayer Man spot 9 seconds before Wiegman Z256...


    YOU ARE A COMPLETE AND UTTER LYING CUNT BRIAN DOYLE

    Read CE 1381 again and tell me what it says and then compare that with the manipulative lying shit you posted. More than half the shit you posted is believbed and gsp[eled by you, no one lese.

    YOU MAKE SHIT UP YOU DELUSIONAL LYING PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!

    Davidson has no skills and nor do you, you two are about the biggest conspiracy dumb asses on the block.
    You do not even know how to post a photo let alone analyze one.

    YOU ARE A LIAR
    A FAKE
    A CHARLATAN

    YOUR SO CALLED EVIDENCE IS NOTHING BUT BULLSHIT

    BULLSHIT DOYLE

    FUCKING NOBODY

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  • From Brian Doyle@21:1/5 to robert johnson on Wed Aug 9 09:52:54 2023
    On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 2:33:32 PM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:
    On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 4:12:52 PM UTC+1, Brian Doyle wrote:
    On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 10:54:00 AM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:
    On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 3:01:49 PM UTC+1, Brian Doyle wrote:




    Wilson Wrote:

    " Look at the " woman's faces" for yourself, because Doyle sure as fuck won't be posting them. Stevie Wonder himself could see they were obviously heavily doctored. Davidson PHOTOSHOPPED a commercially available DVD for fuck sakes "


    This is why Davidson's woman's face being repeat-able in the original Wiegman Film is important scientific proof...I think everyone is aware that Alex Wilson is an attention-seeking troll who will say anything to deny the correct Prayer Man evidence so
    it doesn't really matter what he posts, however it still stands as the best scientific argument on the subject that Davidson's digital photo analysis process could be applied to the original Wiegman film and it would repeat Davidson's woman's face
    exactly...As I have posted repeatedly, that would prove that Davidson was not the "photo-shopping" fraud that Wilson is suggesting and would show beyond a doubt that Sarah Stanton's face was a real and existing feature on the Wiegman celluloid...We are
    dealing with a research community that sees Sarah Stanton's obviously-female, chubby-cheeked face in Davidson and is still saying that Prayer Man is Oswald...And I am the person who gets banned!...




    " You'll see no mention of " chubby cheeks ", au contraire, Prayerwoman circa 2016, was a svelte dark haired gal, with eyeglasses. Just like Doyle's scientific etch a sketch avatar on his FB page. "



    This is logically unsound for the reason that we can see Stanton's chubby cheeks on Prayer Man in Davidson...We can also see Stanton's obese forearm and hand in Darnell, as well as 5 foot 4 height that Wilson conveniently doesn't mention...



    " Her cheeks only became chubby , her hair only changed colour and her weight only ballooned when Doyle saw an actual photo of Mrs Stanton. "



    When I got Stanton's family photo in 2018, that showed her chronic obesity, the obvious obese features on Prayer Man, like her hips, forearm, and hand, all became obvious and proved Prayer Man was Stanton...Remember, the Prayer Man people have still
    failed to show Stanton to Frazier's left in Altgens 6...This, of course, doesn't stop the technical analysis moron Jim DiEugenio from praising them...Jim is forgetting he said on Facebook "When I first saw the Prayer Man image I thought the person being
    called Prayer Man was too stocky to be Oswald"...

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  • From robert johnson@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 9 12:32:04 2023
    Wearing a wig for professional reasons?
    You utter retarded moron.

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  • From Brian Doyle@21:1/5 to Brian Doyle on Tue Sep 12 08:59:00 2023
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 12:52:56 PM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
    On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 2:33:32 PM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:
    On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 4:12:52 PM UTC+1, Brian Doyle wrote:




    Alex Wilson wrote:


    [ Determined to prove the figure in Owen's is Mrs Stanton ( like all true fanatics his obsession blinds him, in this instance quite literally, to the actual facts. The purported " Mrs Stanton " is the wrong shape, size and sex, with a different hair
    colour, faceshape and outfit, diametrically opposed in fact, to the Prayerman figure) Doyle is forced to admit Mrs Stanton has " white hair "

    Ergo, by his own words she CANNOT be Prayerman.

    I KNOW no camera or shadows could alter her hair colour. In fact it's not just a case of altering hair colour, the magical cameras and CIA " smart shadows " obligingly followed Mrs Stanton's exact hairline, leaving her skin light. Likewise her " dress"
    and her er " camisole undershirt" ]



    Wilson is inarticulate and incoherent above...No serious researcher denies the woman Morissette found in Owens is Stanton...You can plainly see she is identical to her family photo and is undoubtedly Stanton...Wilson could not explain who that woman is
    if not Stanton seeing how she is standing in one of the most police-protected areas in America at that time...So if she isn't Stanton then who is she, what is she doing there, and why are the cops letting her stand there?...

    Wilson is dumb because any photo expert will tell you light objects will register as dark under certain conditions in photography...Wilson is ignorant and is a good example of what that nut Greg Parker encourages on his censorship-protected troll farm...
    Trolls will eventually trip up themselves...

    Wilson is dumb because we know Stanton was on the top landing platform according to the Prayer Man group's own evidence...So unless Wilson can show Stanton and her white hair in the photography then the evidence proves my point on a scientific basis that
    the idiot troll Wilson fails to catch in his trollish reasoning...

    Dumb is the worst offense you can commit in research...It is down there with trolling...

    The research community dishonestly keeps this evidence off the Education Forum and deals with it with false witness malicious slander against its source...These are not good people...

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  • From Brian Doyle@21:1/5 to Brian Doyle on Fri Sep 15 06:36:06 2023
    On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 11:59:02 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 12:52:56 PM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
    On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 2:33:32 PM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:



    The ROKC troll Alex Wilson wrote:


    " OK Brian, here's your chance to shine.

    Prove the cameras/ shadows turned Mrs Stanton's white hair dark. "



    I already have...If you read your overly-long trolling answer over on ROKC you never once made any attempt to answer my challenge in your long attempt to divert around it...


    I asked you to please show Stanton's white hair on the top landing platform in either Altgens, Wiegman, or Darnell and you couldn't do it...Remember, your response tries to say that white hair must always appear white in all photography so therefore if
    Stanton were Prayer Man Prayer Man's hair would appear white...That, of course, goes against commonly-known photographic science and white hair can appear dark in shade with certain film and equipment...It was your move and you came up empty...


    You utterly, publicly failed to answer the point...We know from Murphy and Kamp's own research that Stanton was up on the top landing platform, so therefore if your claim is correct you should have no problem pointing-out her white hair on someone other
    than Prayer Man...You were challenged directly in my last post and in your response on ROKC you couldn't do it...That means I win and no amount of trolling on your behalf will make up for it...The rest of the research community are bums because they know
    that white hair can appear dark in shade conditions in photography - but the idea here is to never let me make a correct point so the Prayer Man clique dishonestly protects each other...They even protect ROKC demented trolls like yourself...


    You also failed to answer the point that Stanton in Owens possesses Prayer Man's exact height and elbow-length sleeve...


    Since we are basically debating between boards it is a pure act of dishonesty that Kamp & Parker keep me from doing it over on ROKC in direct response in the thread there...The reason Kamp & Parker keep me from posting over there is because they know if
    the public sees my responses next to yours they'll realize what a crazy troll you are and how uncredible the Prayer Man claim is...ROKC and Prayer Man directly rely on censorship and gang trolling to make their bullshit fly...

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  • From robert johnson@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 24 22:58:46 2023
    COMPLETE AND UTTER HORSESHIT BRIAN DOYLE

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  • From Brian Doyle@21:1/5 to Brian Doyle on Tue Sep 26 08:54:53 2023
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 9:36:08 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 11:59:02 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 12:52:56 PM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:


    Alex,


    You failed to answer my response the last time we argued about Stanton's white hair appearing dark in Darnell...

    I asked you to please answer where Stanton with her white hair is in either Altgens, Wiegman, or Darnell...You are refusing to answer the valid logical point that we know Stanton had white hair from the Owens film...We also know Stanton was up on the top
    landing platform in the photography...So therefore, by your own logic, you should be able to show Stanton and her white hair in the Prayer Man photography...

    You failed to answer that challenge in our last exchange and therefore you don't get to post the same stupidity again...The reason you can't answer this is because Stanton is Prayer Man and therefore proves Darnell's film and equipment, and their
    contrast rate, make Stanton's white hair appear dark in shade...

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  • From Brian Doyle@21:1/5 to Brian Doyle on Thu Sep 28 06:30:26 2023
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 11:54:55 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 9:36:08 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 11:59:02 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:



    Wilson has entered yet another long trolling response on ROKC where he fails to answer my challenge to show Stanton with white hair in the Prayer Man photography...It is a very simple challenge that Wilson thinks he can answer with long trolling
    filibuster of crap arguments...By Wilson's own argument if Stanton's white hair must appear white in film photography then Wilson should have no problem showing that in the Prayer Man photography...I have challenged Wilson directly with this 3 times and
    all 3 times he struggled on the noose but couldn't come through and back up his claim with any basic showing of Stanton with her white hair on the steps...The reason for that, and Wilson is perfectly aware of this, is because Stanton's white hair appears
    dark in shadow in Darnell and Wiegman...This is just more proof that the JFK internet is a clown circus with no competent Peer Review...The ROKC troll Alex Wilson refuses to admit this, even though he is proving me correct by being publicly unable to
    answer my challenge, because he knows it proves Prayer Man is Sarah Stanton...These are the demented creeps Greg Parker has unleashed on the credible research community from his ROKC Fagin's den...

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  • From Brian Doyle@21:1/5 to Brian Doyle on Sat Sep 30 10:36:13 2023
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 9:30:28 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 11:54:55 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 9:36:08 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:



    Alex is cursed to forever speak in troll-speak and cannot escape his mythological fate...


    Alex was asked several times to back up his claim that Stanton's hair must appear white in the Prayer Man photography...If Alex's claim were true he would be able to easily show it by showing us Stanton with her white hair in the photography...However
    Alex came up a little short on that and was unable to show Stanton with her white hair in the Prayer Man photography and therefore failed to prove his point...


    Alex is right back out there on Greg Parker's censorship-protected forum trolling as usual and pretending him or his opinion have any credibility after being unable to publicly answer my challenge...

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  • From robert johnson@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 1 23:13:12 2023
    Now we get pseudo voodoo bullshit from you, as if Harvey & Lee inside the TSBD isn't wacky enough.

    Alex or anyone else at ROKC answers to a troll dick like you.
    NEVER HAVE!!!
    NEVER WILL!!!

    BUT IF YOU WEREN'T SO BUSY IN YOUR DENIALS YOU'D REALIZE THE ANSWERS WERE GIVEN MANY MOONS AGO.

    OH DOYLE WHAT IS BECOMING OF YOU????

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  • From Brian Doyle@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 2 06:54:55 2023
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 2:13:14 AM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:



    ROKC scum like Robert Johnson think they are above answering for Alex Jones' public failure to show Stanton's white hair in the Prayer Man photography...

    Alex isn't a researcher...He's an internet troll and Parker/Kamp ass-kisser...That's why he made the stupid mistake of saying Stanton's white hair must appear white in the photography...Only, when asked, Wilson couldn't show Stanton's white hair in any
    of the Prayer Man photography...And the reason for that is because Stanton's white hair appears dark in shade as is seen on Prayer Man...

    ROKC assholes like Robert Johnson and Alex Wilson think they can troll around it but they both know I own them...

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  • From Brian Doyle@21:1/5 to Brian Doyle on Tue Oct 3 11:10:04 2023
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 9:54:57 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 2:13:14 AM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:



    Greg Parker keeps trolls like Alex Wilson around in order to screen him from the real evidence he refuses to answer...

    I have repeatedly asked Alex Wilson to back-up his claim that Sarah Stanton's white hair must appear white in the Prayer Man photography...Wilson has no research skill...He's on Parker's troll farm to get attention for his trollish writing...Because of
    Wilson's lack of analysis competency he didn't catch himself making the stupid claim that Stanton's hair must appear white...It is commonly known in photography that certain cameras and film types can make light colored objects appear dark under certain
    conditions...Shade is one of those conditions and "Stanton was standing deepest in to the shadows on the front steps" according to Frazier...Because Wilson has no analysis skill he trapped himself and didn't realize that by claiming Stanton's hair was
    white that he would then actually have to show Stanton's white hair in the images...These are the kind of stupid mistakes you get from trolls who are given a false sense of security by means of rogue moderation...Wilson has self-excused by saying he
    doesn't have to show anything and the burden is on me - but that's always the pathetic excuse used by all losers who know they've been out-argued...It is pathetically obvious that Wilson knows he's been smoked and that he can't back up his own bullshit...
    The reason Wilson can't back up his claim is because Prayer Man is Stanton and Darnell's camera and film make her hair appear dark in shade...Wilson is trying to troll around the fact that if Stanton's hair appeared white then we would see it in the
    imagery...Wilson is kinda dumb...

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  • From robert johnson@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 3 11:16:36 2023
    For years going many have asked you to stump up evidence/links/pix and what not and you never deliver.
    You lie so much you believe it is true.

    SUCH A DICKHEAD

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  • From Bart Kamp@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 3 22:47:35 2023
    Brian, Brian, Brian, what are we going to do with you?

    You don't seem to realise that with every ill tempered evidence free profanity laced adolescent tantrum you further ostracize yourself and expose your so called " correct evidence " for risible unscientific dishonest claptrap it undoubtedly is

    People aren't stupid.

    Your so called challenge is nothing but a clumsy attempt at shifting the burden of proof. No one is under any sort of obligation to DISprove the claims you have failed ( and failed quite catastrophically) to make.

    I'm not the one making any claims. YOU are. The onus is on YOU to provide properly accredited scientific/ photographic proof to support your claim

    Your uncorroborated assertions are not evidence. By trying to drag the subject down into the murky catacombs of charlatanism you not only do actual research into the case a great disservice, you insult everyone's intelligence.

    Your sole proof is your jocular attempt at reasserting your previous spurious assertion.

    You've offered zero evidence to support, what are, in reality the worthless speculation of someone desperately trying to wriggle his way out of a terminal impasse.

    Likewise your claim that the FBI surreptitiously altered Mrs Stanton's statement ( for some unfathomable reason it seems) Neither your hapless appeals to some antiquated notion of CT Orthodoxy nor your unethical attempts to twist, what was, fundamentally
    , 2nd or 3rd hand hearsay, negates Mrs Stanton's own statement.

    As it stands she had grey / white hair, as opposed to Prayerman's dark visibly receding hair.
    And she made it clear she went inside " immediately " after the shots

    You have produced nothing but gaslighting and hot hair, in the process doing absolutely nothing to support your unsubstantiated assumptions.

    However, her hair colour and her contemporaneous statement are just the beginning of your problems.

    You still need to account for her clearly visible lack of cleavage, her light coloured clothes and skin, her size, bodyshape and hairline.

    To date you have produced nothing, except your various unsupported assumptions. Nothing.

    I'm afraid, given your past record of unreliability and lack of honesty ( putting it incredibly politely) your sayso is , I'm afraid to say, rather less than worthless.

    Until Greg told me about the situation as regards Forum motion, I was, initially at least, all for letting you rejoin, albeit on a strictly limited basis, thinking it might be a salutary and instructive experience for you.

    But, after a couple of seconds I realised my mistake. You refuse to learn. Or behave like a reasonably intelligent adult. Once you believe something ito be true, it becomes an unassailable inviolable truth.

    You expect people to believe your " evidence " merely because you say so.

    I still have some lingering sympathy for your obvious plight, but I have nothing but utter contempt for Gilbride.

    His almost cosmically inhuman remarks about substance abuse were beyond despicable.

    He reminds me of some lonely old delusional Eleanor Rigby like character.

    Busy writing the essays no one will read.

    Blind to the fact that nobody cares

    No one us even there.

    Like you he's forced to construct elaborate fantasies: James Gordon- MI6 agent, controlling a vast network, designed to thwart the genius of Brian Doyle and his Dick

    To face the stark unpalatable truth: your " work" is ignored because it's worthless junk. And you're ostracized yourselves with your repellent behaviour.

    You have deceived yourself into believing you are above the chattering tumult, immune to the rules which govern lesser mortals. You behave abominably, like some ill bred toddler throwing a tantrum, and yet you expect to suffer no negative consequences

    Believing you have some God given right to breeze into any forum that takes your fancy.

    Don't bother trying to post a semi articulate reply, your vocabulary is as limited as your powers of perception and, like your Dick you are quite simply an appalling writer.

    Don't waste your time repeating your " challenge ", unless you can rustle up some actual proof. Articles from a reputable scientific/ photographic journal, describing the alleged phenomena in detail, and, crucially the opinion of at least a couple of
    accredited photo analysts/ experts explaining why and how it happened to occur on this particular occasion.

    Not forgetting a full description of the make, model, film stock, shutter speed etc of the cameras in question, I'm done with this nonsensical charade

    You aren't funny any more Brian, you're just pathetic and more than just a little creepy.

    Despite your deep seated issues I'm at a complete loss and can't even begin to understand why a man of your age behaves like this..

    For God sake learn to communicate like a semi rational human being and find yourself another fucking hobby.

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  • From Brian Doyle@21:1/5 to Brian Doyle on Wed Oct 4 09:15:30 2023
    On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 2:10:05 PM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 9:54:57 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 2:13:14 AM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:



    Wilson responded to me over on Parker's ROKC troll farm...Since Alex Wilson and myself are having an exchange then there's no good reason to not have it on ROKC in one place...The only reason Greg Parker is using UK-type censorship to prevent me from
    responding directly to Wilson on ROKC is because Greg is very aware I will skewer Wilson if our posts are both in the same place and the coward Parker won't allow that because he's full of shit...There is such a pathetic rotten double standard on the JFK
    internet that Parker is allowed to lie and say the web host "ForumMotion.com" has disallowed my membership on his forum...The playing field on the JFK internet is Parker is allowed to post demented lies like this that only show how crazy he is and gets
    full Roger Odisio-approved backing on the Education Forum and me and my good evidence are lynched and ignored while cowards sully my reputation instead of answering my evidence...The JFK research internet is full of shit-heels who won't hesitate to run
    right across my banned body on their way to posting space at the appproval of dirty moderators...Because of this corrupted UK-type dirty moderation there is no Peer Review on the JFK internet...The Prayer Man people have filled right in to this immoral
    void...

    Wilson is ignoring the fact that he failed to answer my challenge to show Stanton's white hair on Stanton in the Prayer Man photography...Because Wilson is a Greg Parker-protected troll he is responding by challenging me...But that isn't how credible
    academic debate works...Peer Review requires that Wilson answer my perfectly sound evidence challenge and back-up what he posts and show us Stanton's white hair on Stanton in the Prayer Man photography...Because the JFK internet has been corrupted by
    dirty UK-based overseers Wilson is being allowed to defy Peer Review and show contempt for good argument of evidence in its face...Parker and his troll forum thrive on this while the trolls there mouth the words of credible research but then fail to
    answer the best evidence (like Wilson is doing here)...The ROKC troll farm under Parker is directly dependent on cowardly censorship at the word of the censors...The Education Forum too...Refute Parker and his nuts and you get banned with the
    benficiaries bragging about it...

    Because of that dirty scumbag and pompous fool Gordon the person who has clearly won this debate and proved that Prayer Man is Stanton is headed off at the gate by that criminal piece of shit Gordon, who finds in favor of the ROKC trolls, and punishes
    the skilled researcher, who did what his website is allegedly there for, with the best skill, and punishes him for what the Prayer Man people are guilty of...Gordon is allowed to get away with the murder of ignoring all the skilled research produced by
    myself and reduce it to "I gave Doyle chance after chance to stop his antics"...Gordon is a criminal piece of shit and he is desperate to avoid recognizing my superior proof that is so superior that even Von Pein is stealing it uncredited, as well as
    Kinaski...Gordon isn't honest enough to admit that my evidence has proven itself by its being stolen by that pair...It is obvious that Parker and Gordon are desperate to avoid admitting that once my evidence wins then it shows that they are two assholes
    who moderated backwards, attacked the correct evidence, and banned the best and brightest...Both Parker and Gordon have UK origins as far as their ethics and sensibility...By allowing my research to be stolen uncredited Gordon is violating the exact same
    principle that he banned Von Pein for...I was the researcher who discovered that the notes from the 3pm Interrogation all started at the Lunch Room Encounter...Von Pein is blatantly stealing it without credit with that criminal piece of shit Gordon's
    approval...

    Wilson violates the bullshit to evidence rule where he has to post a large volume of trolling bullshit in order to compensate for the fact he was publicly unable to back up his trolling bullshit and actually show where Stanton's hair appears white...It
    is the curse of trolls like Wilson to be forever caught in their own trolling...

    Stanton's hair appears dark in Darnell and therefore proves Prayer Man is Stanton...

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  • From robert johnson@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 4 23:22:20 2023
    Well Brian, if it's such " common knowledge " , it should be an absolute gimme , especially for a researcher of your calibre, to produce some verifiable technical data to back up your claim.

    You have to rely on one of your revolving Greek chorus of little lies to back up your primadonna lie. Despite being asked repeatedly you have produced no evidence, nada, backing up your claims regarding BWF.

    Surely you can produce SOMETHING, even if it's just an article in a reputable scientific/ photographic journal describing this hitherto unknown but apparently commonplace phenomenon. And, here's the really important bit, evidence that proves how and
    why it occurs in this particular occasion.

    " Shade" cannot magically replicate someone's hairline, following it exactly while leaving the skin clear.
    It's an utterly preposterous notion. " Shade" doesn't account for Prayerwomans lack of cleavage, " her" faceshape, size, body shape, weight, clothing and yes, her height.

    If you think anyone apart from your partner in desperation , the despicable hack Gilbride, buys your amateurish " height argument " then I have a fake mom in Bradenton, Florida to sell you

    If you think respecting and following the basic laws regarding the burden of proof, a cornerstone of the scientific method, is " for losers" and if you are labouring under the fundamental misapprehension that juvenile waffle and uncorroborated
    assertions would pass muster in academic peer review then it's perhaps not quite so difficult to understand why you are universally derided as a crank and a non researcher.

    " Top voice " indeed.

    Brian, I have a sense of humour and an appreciation for the absurd. Unfortunately, a lot of folks don't.

    Outside your narcissistic delirium you are a research non person. You have produced zero worthwhile work: books, articles, appearances on podcasts or documentaries etc. Most folks don't even know who you are, and as for those who have has the privilege
    of encountering your highly skilled credible research?

    Your mere name is the kiss of death credibility wise, there's a reason why you are regarded as the Typhoid Mary of the JFK internet, despite your repulsive personal characteristics , it's because you are universally regarded as a joke. A crank.

    When you are cornered your only recourse is abusive waffle, before fluttering off over the rainbow to your fantasy domain. Brian, if you WERE such a skilled credible researcher your tedious boasting would be as unnecessary as it is moribund.

    The genuinely talented let their work do the talking

    As for your latest toy, Davidson's " Scoop necked dress ", shame on you for even attempting to foist such an bastardised image on the JFK internet.

    While Chris Davidson may have some mathematical skills I'm afraid his photo work is somewhat less than underwhelming. Come on Brian, cut out the bullshit and the outraged schoolmarm squealing, the image has obviously been enhanced. Plus, youve made it
    blatantly clear you lack any sort of technical competence.

    I'm sorry Brian, I really am, but like the redoubtable John Iac I feel compelled to speak out, exposing what I believe is nothing short of the worst sort of charlatanism

    Your reliance upon infantile tantrums and childish boasting is cringeworthy in the extreme. You provide zero supporting evidence, relying upon your own assertions to back up your assertions.

    Delude yourself all you want, but the truth remains. You are regarded as a figure of derision

    The overwhelming majority of lurkers, researchers and regular posters, if they even know who are , up around 99%, dismiss you as a boorish uncivilized crank and charlatan of the first order.

    Go on Brian, Mr Top Voice, who has singlehandedly rewritten the laws of physics, photography and anatomy, prove me wrong. After all I'm just a simple creative trolling miscreant and you are a crackerjack researcher.

    Post away...

    I believe Sarah Stanton's grey hair appears dark because
    1
    2
    3

    I believe the FBI altered her statement, even though it made it almost impossible for her to be Prayerman because
    1
    2
    3

    Your own unreliable unsubstantiated assumptions don't count. Neither do feeble appeals to outdated dogma.

    The burden of proof lies with the claimant. Ask Gilbride .

    Yet again you reveal your hypocrisy and your infinite ability to speak out both sides of your mouth at the same time.

    You abuse Pat Speer, while sending him " your material " I have little respect for Speer but I'm pretty sure he would never be so desperate or so disingenuous to rely on our chum Brian as a source.

    After everything you have written about this forum and individual members, even going so far as attempting to claim " credit " for Greg's near fatal heart attack, you expect to be allowed to come breezing back in, ponytail bristling triumphantly.

    I have an image of you as some Strip Von Twinkle, after swallowing an entire plate full of Owsleys notorious STP laced fairy cakes at a particularly far out Airplane gig at the Fillmore, back in the halcyon days of 68, you fell asleep for 40 years,
    waking up amidst your late father's rigorously categorized collection of Eva and Grerl Braun's lingerie, in a basement, down Sanibel way.

    It's the only way I can even begin rationalising your immature antics and adolescent posting style.

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  • From Brian Doyle@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 5 08:55:47 2023
    On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 2:22:22 AM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:



    When Alex Wilson failed to back up his claim and show Stanton with her white hair in the Prayer Man photography he lost the debate...

    At that point he doesn't get the opportunity to continue trolling...

    Prayer Man is Stanton...

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  • From Brian Doyle@21:1/5 to Brian Doyle on Fri Oct 6 07:31:56 2023
    On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 11:55:49 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
    On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 2:22:22 AM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:



    Wilson answered me on ROKC...His answer is pretty pathetically obviously a concession that I did indeed out-argue him and that Prayer Man was Stanton...Only it is done in his demented trolling style where he skirts the issue with trolling...

    Wilson isn't that smart because I'm not sure what point he thinks he's making while shriveling up in to that little wrinkled pile of out-argued troll who still has some kind of defiant come back...Once Wilson failed in public to show white hair on
    Stanton in the Prayer Man photography therefore Stanton's hair was dark and therefore the evidence forced Prayer Man to be Stanton...

    It took several posts but Wilson finally realized his demented trolling couldn't get him around a skilled debater who was good at arguing evidence...Kamp dishonestly stays out of this because he knows he'll lose...He sticks to the dirty advantage of
    banning and censorship...

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  • From robert johnson@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 6 10:17:29 2023
    IN YOUR WILDEST MOST DELUSIONAL DREAMS

    GET WITH THE PROGRAM DOYLE YOU TOTAL NUTJOB!!!!!

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  • From Brian Doyle@21:1/5 to Brian Doyle on Tue Oct 10 07:58:27 2023
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:31:58 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
    On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 11:55:49 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
    On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 2:22:22 AM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:


    Wilson wrote:


    "YOU made the claims: Mrs Stanton's grey hair was magically darkened and the FBI nefariously altered her statement.

    YOU have produced ZERO proof on both counts

    Nothing. "



    Wilson seems to not understand the fundamental definition of debate...It was actually Wilson who bore the burden of proving his claim that Stanton's white hair must appear white in the Prayer Man photography...This kind of trollish twisting is typical of
    Greg Parker's ROKC troll farm where those who fail their arguments accuse you of what they are guilty of...

    Wilson was asked to do exactly what he asks me to do above...He was asked to bear the burden of proof and show us Stanton's white hair in the Prayer Man photography...We know Stanton was up on the top platform from Kamp's own research so Wilson should
    have no problem showing us Stanton's white hair...

    Wilson seems to be cognitively challenged and doesn't seem to grasp that once he fails to back up his claim, and fails to show Stanton's white hair in the photography, that my argument wins and proves Stanton's hair appeared dark in shade...Wilson is
    dishonest because he avoids mentioning that Owens proved that Stanton's hair appeared dark in the Prayer Man photography...

    Wilson can't practice what he preaches and he lost this debate long ago...

    His failure to back up his claim that Stanton's hair must appear white helps prove that Prayer Man is Stanton...

    Something the JFK research community is not honest enough to admit...

    Sorry Alex but your being so embarrassingly unable to answer my challege actually is proof...As is your idiotic attempt to get around it by accusing me of what you are guilty of...

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  • From robert johnson@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 10 08:53:08 2023
    YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE PHYSICS OF LIGHT AND EMULSION
    IN DUMBAZZ LINGO THAT IS PHOTOGRAPHY FOR MORNONIC CUNTS LIKE YOU
    THAT LEVEL OF STUPIDITY SUPERSEDES ANY BULLSHIT LIE ARGUMENT PUT FORWARD BY YOU

    NOW GO TAKE YOUR LITTLE BALL AND GO HOME BRIAN DOYLE

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  • From Brian Doyle@21:1/5 to Brian Doyle on Tue Oct 10 10:34:28 2023
    On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 10:58:28 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:31:58 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
    On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 11:55:49 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:



    Amongst his many other sordid offenses Alex Wilson is also a liar because he is now denying that he said Stanton's white hair must appear white in the Prayer Man photography...He's only doing that because he now realizes his failure to back that up
    proves Prayer Man is Stanton...

    I have told Wilson repeatedly that Buell Frazier said he started up to the Knoll in order to catch up to Lovelady & Shelley but then turned around and came back to the steps...Frazier said Stanton was still there when he returned and he told her that he
    didn't see anything...Wilson has seen this but he keeps repeating the simple-minded claim that Stanton went inside immediately...She didn't...She stayed on the steps for several minutes and then went back inside...

    Alex - I meant my discussion for serious posters only who would respectfully, rationally process it and offer credible response...You are obviously one of Parker's degenerate miscreants so I would appreicate it if you stopped answering my posts since you
    and your trolling are obviously not credible...

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  • From robert johnson@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 12 11:38:28 2023
    Brian " Father Merrin " Doyle, with his " theological consultant" the Very Reverend Gilbride, veteran of many an " exorcism "( especially the anal variety, in vogue in the late 70s/ early 80s amongst certain clerical circles, who frequented the bath
    houses and masseuse parlours of Sanibel's swinging Gay Village), dressed up in his finest " vestments " come bursting into the house of a startled Bostonian housewife, racing up stairs where her 14 year old son -a scrawny 5 foot 9 inches with dark hair
    and a prematurely receding hairline- is in bed with the flu..

    " The Power of Peer Review compels you" they chant, as Reverend Gilbride falls to his knees at the unfortunate teenager's bedside, takes a quick surreptitious peek beneath the sheets, before whipping out his handwritten Exorcism Ritual.

    As the by now terrified woman, extremely unnerved and disconcerted by the sonorous chanting and the sinister moaning, interspersed, with what sounds like, frantic arhythmic squelching and ominous thumps, calls 911 then Child Welfare, Father Bri Bri
    begins sprinkling the " holy water" he keeps in one of his late father's amyl nitrate bottles, trying to chase the 5 foot 9 inch male demon out of the possessed teenager writhing before him, and assume her true form:

    According to the Principa Dickus, the Very Reverend Gilbride's attempt to rewrite the heathen sophist Isaac Newton's famous work, inside all slim males with dark visibly receding hairlines there's a morbidly obese 300lb grey haired barrel of a woman
    just waiting to be released....

    Our Brian is on absolutely scintillating form!!, not since the halcyon days of Travers T O Justice and John Iac has he been so inspired!!

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  • From Brian Doyle@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 13 08:32:23 2023
    On Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 2:38:30 PM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:



    No matter how hard Alex trolls, as long as he can't show Stanton's white hair in the Prayer Man photography he is conceding that Prayer Man is Stanton...

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  • From robert johnson@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 13 22:50:24 2023
    IT IS OVER CUNT FACE
    ACCEPT IT

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  • From Brian Doyle@21:1/5 to Brian Doyle on Thu Oct 19 06:58:25 2023
    On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 11:32:26 AM UTC-4, Brian Doyle wrote:
    On Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 2:38:30 PM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:



    Alex Wilson wrote:


    "Ive already got an outline in mind. I'll give my usual creative trolling miscreant behaviour a break for a couple of days, as I want to write a proper review, one that reflects the importance of the content and the vast amount of hard work you've put
    in over the years"


    A good psychologist and expert at Linguistic Forensics would tell you after reading Alex's entry above:

    1) That Alex was admitting he was a troll who normally doesn't offer serious input...

    2) That despite offering a bogus theory that he based an entire website on, and then pulled the punk move of refusing to admit I had refuted it, Kamp has done a lot of hard work that the community is using as an excuse to look the other way on the fact
    his Prayer Man claim blew up in his face and showed what a destructive fool of a researcher he is...

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  • From robert johnson@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 19 12:34:43 2023
    I AND MANY MANY OTHERS, EVEN DICKY GILBRIDE, NEED TO SEE ANY PROOF OF YOUR EVIDENCE

    I MEAN LIES DON'T NOT CONSTITUTE MUCH DO THEY?

    BACK INTO THE CAGE BRIAN DOYLE

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