• A new theoretical argument why E=0.5mv^2 for kinetic energy has problem

    From Dave@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 5 10:27:47 2023
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    Maths is important for physics. The nature of number shows that
    E=0.5mv^2 for kinetic energy can't be true, because arbitrarily changing
    the definition of length (human) changes the innate energy. Square 8,
    get 64. Square 0.8, get 0.64. Think about it.

    This is regarding inflection points in increasing the velocity above and decreasing the value below 1. In fact it's all nonsense even with m/s,
    the energy falls faster as a percentage because of the definition using
    v^2.

    I'm not interested in a consistent SI model over the real world. Save
    the models for computer games, and move physics to the arts faculty.

    Meanwhile the real physicists will be reinterpreting relativity and
    getting something useful built.

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  • From Dave@21:1/5 to Dave on Thu Jan 5 12:01:49 2023
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    On 23 47, Dave wrote:
    Maths is important for physics. The nature of number shows that
    E=0.5mv^2 for kinetic energy can't be true, because arbitrarily changing
    the definition of length (human) changes the innate energy. Square 8,
    get 64. Square 0.8, get 0.64. Think about it.

    This is regarding inflection points in increasing the velocity above and decreasing the value below 1.  In fact it's all nonsense even with m/s,
    the energy falls faster as a percentage because of the definition using
    v^2.

    I'm not interested in a consistent SI model over the real world.  Save
    the models for computer games, and move physics to the arts faculty.

    Meanwhile the real physicists will be reinterpreting relativity and
    getting something useful built.
    Sorry, after thinking about this more, this particular argument has no validity. Need to get out and check on an airtrack, not the sums. The E=0.5mv^2 generally accepted claim is self consistent in maths, except
    for the rocket sled thought experiment. (add same energy from different starting velocities.)

    Need two concrete pieces of evidence to make a cast iron case.
    1- air track
    2- free fall drop measurement to check is gravity is m/s^2, or m/s per
    meter of descent. (needs to be 10's of meters).

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to Dave on Thu Jan 5 07:20:11 2023
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    In sci.physics Dave <dwickford@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On 23 47, Dave wrote:
    Maths is important for physics. The nature of number shows that
    E=0.5mv^2 for kinetic energy can't be true, because arbitrarily changing
    the definition of length (human) changes the innate energy. Square 8,
    get 64. Square 0.8, get 0.64. Think about it.

    This is regarding inflection points in increasing the velocity above and
    decreasing the value below 1.  In fact it's all nonsense even with m/s,
    the energy falls faster as a percentage because of the definition using
    v^2.

    I'm not interested in a consistent SI model over the real world.  Save
    the models for computer games, and move physics to the arts faculty.

    Meanwhile the real physicists will be reinterpreting relativity and
    getting something useful built.
    Sorry, after thinking about this more, this particular argument has no validity. Need to get out and check on an airtrack, not the sums. The E=0.5mv^2 generally accepted claim is self consistent in maths, except
    for the rocket sled thought experiment. (add same energy from different starting velocities.)

    Need two concrete pieces of evidence to make a cast iron case.
    1- air track
    2- free fall drop measurement to check is gravity is m/s^2, or m/s per
    meter of descent. (needs to be 10's of meters).

    Crackpot babble.

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  • From Sylvia Else@21:1/5 to Dave on Sat Jan 7 09:13:10 2023
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    On 05-Jan-23 9:27 pm, Dave wrote:
    Maths is important for physics. The nature of number shows that
    E=0.5mv^2 for kinetic energy can't be true, because arbitrarily changing
    the definition of length (human) changes the innate energy. Square 8,
    get 64. Square 0.8, get 0.64. Think about it.


    All this means is that our physical units are linked. Change the unit of length, and some other units also have to change to keep things consistent.

    Sylvia.

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