XPost: alt.survival, can.politics, aus.politics

On Sat, 5 Nov 2022 22:59:42 -0700, Intelligent Party wrote:

Women have an absolute right to separate from their fetuses at all
times. Women with twenty weeks to abort, will be committed to their pregnancy, and not abort after twenty weeks, unless the baby is
handicapped or dying. Women with less than twenty weeks to abort, may
still be seeking abortions after twenty weeks. This is significant,
because I believe there is no human spirit in the zygote from the point
of conception to seventeen or twenty weeks. Life after death is real,
and every religion confirms reincarnation. After twenty weeks, the
spirit comes into the fetus at a different and indeterminate time up
unto birth. This is my belief.

The ONLY women who will abort after twenty weeks, besides those DENIED abortions before twenty weeks, are those who's babies are handicapped or dying. As to handicapped, should we really bring people into this world,
and tell them to live handicapped their whole lives, without total
bodies? What do we live for? Why incarnate at all? 1) Our bodies, 2)
our minds, 3) our property, 4) our friends, 5) our careers. Life is
just about science, art, and friends. So if you are like Stephen
Hawking, OR have some really beloved friends, maybe you have a point. Otherwise miracles, or death seem the answer. And anyone could
potentially reincarnate and be eight in eight years, if with amnesia.

The fetus DOES NOT, own the woman's body. The woman's body is her own. Whether the woman intended to get pregnant but changed her mind, had an accident, or whether if hypothetically the baby attached itself up to
the woman in her sleep, against her will from the beginning, BLAME has
no place here. Porn stars are at risk of pregnancy, as a career. Rape victims cannot be blamed, yet how does that give you any more right to
kill a fetus. The father doesn't have to carry the baby at all. The
body is the woman's body, and that is one of the most fundamental
things. Mothers and Fathers are not obligated to attach themselves back
up to their children to save their lives later in life, nor are they obligated to give them a kidney.

Unplanned childbirth is the scourge of nations. Even WITH ABORTION
LEGAL, 37.5% of our society was unplanned. 1.5 million of 4 million
babies born total every year, were unplanned and not conceived
intentionally. Allowing babies to live is killing grown men. For every
1% unemployment goes up, 40,000 people die. There are currently 6
million unemployed, and only 2 million people on unemployment insurance.
There are no homes built and no business equity produced for the
extreme increase in population.

Two grown men do each, have a right to separate from the other, as they
were NOT Siamese twins, both born owning the entire body, at birth.

For instance, if I needed a kidney, and it was not going to be available
for six months, and I was like, "bro, the doctors said I'm going to die
in the next few days, if I'm not hooked up to somebody," Would you hook
up to me? No, you would be like, "sorry bro, I don't know what you're
going to do."

But if I needed a kidney, and it was going to be available in two weeks,
and I was like "bro, the doctors said I'm going to die in the next few
days, if I'm not hooked up to somebody," if you were my friend, you
could be like, "okay, we're going to do this. We'll sit and watch T.V.,
or in the hospital for two weeks." And so then, we hooked up, and then
the doctors were like, "that kidney is bad. There's not going to be a
kidney for eight months." You would be like, "uhm, we're not going to
be hooked up for eight months. We're disconnecting." And at my
funeral, THEY could be like "Dude! he's dead cause of you!," and you
could be like "any of you could have attached up to him for eight months
(you even had a few days to do it), but you didn't!"

This proves you have a right to detach from a grown man, and thereby the right to detach from a fetus that is a living baby, and therefore a
person, even though it is is no longer a cadaver, even after a human
spirit has come into it.

When the preemie comes out early, and it's possible, are you going to
put the preemie BACK IN the MOTHER, or attach it up to the FATHER? I
mean, some parents might very well want to save their child. But
prohibition of abortion is as if to perpetrate this is an additional REQUIREMENT.

And women forced to not abort are forced to be surrogate mothers without
pay.

Also, being born with poor parents who didn't want you, is perhaps like
being born handicapped. There are too many orphans and children of bad parents, mothers thirteen, fathers in prison, both are on drugs, in the world.

You see the bodies in the movie Avatar in the incubation tanks, moving around, with no higher consciousness in them. Just because the fetus
kicked doesn't mean it's conscious yet.
https://youtu.be/5PSNL1qE6VY?t=88 It may or may not be, and how would
we know? Just speculation. You know? I don't. You can convince me?

If there's no human spirit in the zygote yet, it's absolutely immoral to
NOT abort, because that's like getting pregnant! There's no human
spirit in the first 17-18 weeks.

Prohibition, and a free country are antithetical.

People prohibiting abortion and other things are criminals as surely as Hitler was a criminal to prohibit Judaism, and mass incarcerate the
Jews.

You own your body, and no one has any rights over it, and that's a FACT!

I'd 'ave left NAZIs outta the argument,
but otherwise you make some salient points
I had not considered.

Dhu

--
Je suis Canadien. Ce n'est pas Francais ou Anglais.
C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco;-)
Duncan Patton the Campbell

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