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24H2 is here. See this image:

https://i.imgur.com/w6Dod0H.png

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

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On 10/4/24 03:35 PM, Brian Gregory wrote:

On 04/10/2024 19:39, Zoopla wrote:

24H2 is here. See this image:

https://i.imgur.com/w6Dod0H.png

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

Yes.

I've upgraded both my PCs with only fairly minor problems so far.

Could you elaborate just a little. No TL;DR stuff.
--
Linux Mint 21.3, Cinnamon 6.0.4, Kernel 5.15.0-122-generic
Al

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On 04/10/2024 19:39, Zoopla wrote:

24H2 is here. See this image:

https://i.imgur.com/w6Dod0H.png

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

Yes.

I've upgraded both my PCs with only fairly minor problems so far.

--
Brian Gregory (in England).

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On 04/10/2024 20:41, Big Al wrote:

On 10/4/24 03:35 PM, Brian Gregory wrote:

On 04/10/2024 19:39, Zoopla wrote:

24H2 is here. See this image:

https://i.imgur.com/w6Dod0H.png

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

Yes.

I've upgraded both my PCs with only fairly minor problems so far.

Could you elaborate just a little.  No TL;DR stuff.

I upgraded them from W11 23H2 to W11 24H2 by downloading the W11 24H2
ISO and copying it to the PC to be upgraded where I mounted so it gets a
drive letter.
I used program I always install to mount it but I see no reason why you
should use Windows 11's built in ISO mounter.

Then I ran the setup.exe from the mounted ISO.
There is an autorun.inf file on the ISO so that Opening the drive by
double clicking it in explorer runs setup.exe so you can just do that.

Then I just followed the instructions.

What I called minor problems were:

My laptop lost its wallpaper settings, got changed to black wallpaper,
but I easily set it back to my usual slideshow of a selection of my
photos in a folder. It also lost the Wi-Fi passphrase needed to
autoconnect to my Wi-Fi, but re-entering it soon fixed that.

My desktop PC has much more software installed on it including some
quite unusual things. I thought there might be more problems with it but
no. Wallpaper setting wasn't lost and I don't use Wi-Fi on it.
I did do one extra reboot just in case but then everything just worked,
or worked as well as it did before.

Amazing.

--
Brian Gregory (in England).

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On Fri, 10/4/2024 2:39 PM, Zoopla wrote:

24H2 is here. See this image:

https://i.imgur.com/w6Dod0H.png

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

https://software.download.prss.microsoft.com/dbazure/Win11_24H2_English_x64.iso ... [long random alphanumeric removed...]

Name: Win11_24H2_English_x64.iso # US English selection
Size: 5819484160 bytes (5549 MiB)
SHA256: B56B911BF18A2CEAEB3904D87E7C770BDF92D3099599D61AC2497B91BF190B11

5.4GB . "Just the right size for a single-layer DVD" :-)
Nothing a little more compression won't fix.

There are 11 OSes onboard that one. I didn't get
a 7 OS one.

According to Wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_11_version_history

24H2 26100 October 1, 2024 # "Released" three days ago.

Now, I have to put that in the wine cellar, and let it age.

Paul

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On 10/4/24 16:35, Paul wrote:

On Fri, 10/4/2024 2:39 PM, Zoopla wrote:

24H2 is here. See this image:

https://i.imgur.com/w6Dod0H.png

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

ZZZZZZZzzzzz... What! What! Who DARES to wake me!!!!
It is Christmas already? Who put coal in my sock!?!?!?
That is not coal?!?! That is W11-24H2??? OH JOY !

https://ibb.co/jkSbLJF

You kids get off my lawn!!!

-T (T/Mr.T/Todd/Dude/His Resplendence)

Who can I re-gift this too?

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On 04 Oct 2024, Brian Gregory
<void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-11:

On 04/10/2024 20:41, Big Al wrote:

On 10/4/24 03:35 PM, Brian Gregory wrote:

On 04/10/2024 19:39, Zoopla wrote:

24H2 is here. See this image:

https://i.imgur.com/w6Dod0H.png

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

Yes.

I've upgraded both my PCs with only fairly minor problems so
far.

Could you elaborate just a little.  No TL;DR stuff.

I upgraded them from W11 23H2 to W11 24H2 by downloading the W11
24H2 ISO and copying it to the PC to be upgraded where I mounted
so it gets a drive letter.
I used program I always install to mount it but I see no reason
why you should use Windows 11's built in ISO mounter.

Then I ran the setup.exe from the mounted ISO.
There is an autorun.inf file on the ISO so that Opening the drive
by double clicking it in explorer runs setup.exe so you can just
do that.

Then I just followed the instructions.

What I called minor problems were:

My laptop lost its wallpaper settings, got changed to black
wallpaper, but I easily set it back to my usual slideshow of a
selection of my photos in a folder. It also lost the Wi-Fi
passphrase needed to autoconnect to my Wi-Fi, but re-entering it
soon fixed that.

My desktop PC has much more software installed on it including
some quite unusual things. I thought there might be more problems
with it but no. Wallpaper setting wasn't lost and I don't use
Wi-Fi on it. I did do one extra reboot just in case but then
everything just worked, or worked as well as it did before.

Amazing.

Will we still have the ability to run with a local account? If so,
after the upgrade do you have to jump through hoops to get back to the
local account?

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In message <vdpcvr$1ldp6$1@paganini.bofh.team>, Zoopla
<noreply@zoopla.com> writes

24H2 is here. See this image:

https://i.imgur.com/w6Dod0H.png

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

I'm wondering why you cross-posted this to the Windows 10 group. I
suppose some Windows 10 users might be so impressed by 24H2 that they
will decide to switch to Windows 11, which would justify the xpost.
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"I don't even butter my bread; I consider that cooking."
Katherine Cebrian

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On Fri, 10/4/2024 11:28 PM, Nil wrote:

On 04 Oct 2024, Brian Gregory
<void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-11:

On 04/10/2024 20:41, Big Al wrote:

On 10/4/24 03:35 PM, Brian Gregory wrote:

On 04/10/2024 19:39, Zoopla wrote:

24H2 is here. See this image:

https://i.imgur.com/w6Dod0H.png

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

Yes.

I've upgraded both my PCs with only fairly minor problems so
far.

Could you elaborate just a little.  No TL;DR stuff.

I upgraded them from W11 23H2 to W11 24H2 by downloading the W11
24H2 ISO and copying it to the PC to be upgraded where I mounted
so it gets a drive letter.
I used program I always install to mount it but I see no reason
why you should use Windows 11's built in ISO mounter.

Then I ran the setup.exe from the mounted ISO.
There is an autorun.inf file on the ISO so that Opening the drive
by double clicking it in explorer runs setup.exe so you can just
do that.

Then I just followed the instructions.

What I called minor problems were:

My laptop lost its wallpaper settings, got changed to black
wallpaper, but I easily set it back to my usual slideshow of a
selection of my photos in a folder. It also lost the Wi-Fi
passphrase needed to autoconnect to my Wi-Fi, but re-entering it
soon fixed that.

My desktop PC has much more software installed on it including
some quite unusual things. I thought there might be more problems
with it but no. Wallpaper setting wasn't lost and I don't use
Wi-Fi on it. I did do one extra reboot just in case but then
everything just worked, or worked as well as it did before.

Amazing.

Will we still have the ability to run with a local account? If so,
after the upgrade do you have to jump through hoops to get back to the
local account?

I recommend a backup, because it would appear the installer sequence is different.
At least, be prepared for a shock. The suggestion here, is the media
might no longer be a hybrid, but is UEFI-only instead. I haven't been working with the Insider for a while, because it was frozen at 26100 or whatever the release was for a while, so there was nothing going on in there.

https://www.elevenforum.com/t/w11-24h2-and-old-installation-setup.25706/

"there is an option "Previous version of Setup" (to have the old interface)"

If your machine has already had the Black Lotus patches applied (and associated changes to the UEFI contents in the BIOS flash or whatever, revocation), then it is possible your options for mixing and matching pieces of ISO might be better.

So maybe I should not be so blasé about the whole thing. Makes sense when Intel was pushing for motherboards to lose CSM capability.

This means we could have a whole new set of if-then-else, depending on
what machine limitations you've got for the install.

This almost smells like the Microsoft definition of "progress",
which is to "flummox the user, when possible and often".

Rufus has also had to include at least one change. There is something he
has put into a short script which sets a handful of registry entries.

https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/issues/2568#issuecomment-2387934171 [Oct.2,2024 work]

( https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-cracks-down-on-windows-11-upgrades-for-incompatible-pcs-but-theres-a-fix-for-now/ )

"It is adventures, all the way down." [like speilunking]

Paul

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On Sat, 10/5/2024 5:02 AM, John Hall wrote:

In message <vdpcvr$1ldp6$1@paganini.bofh.team>, Zoopla <noreply@zoopla.com> writes

24H2 is here. See this image:

https://i.imgur.com/w6Dod0H.png

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

I'm wondering why you cross-posted this to the Windows 10 group.
I suppose some Windows 10 users might be so impressed by 24H2 that
they will decide to switch to Windows 11, which would justify the xpost.

When your Win10 expires, and you have that "won't they think about Windows Defender"
look on your face, your keeping up with the latest news will come in handy.

You at least want to keep up with Windows 11 well enough, to know it's a dead end.

There is a lot going on in the industry, and no, I'm not talking about the distractions of AI which are acting as a smoke screen. There seems to be
a push, to not allowing desktops to become too capable (Intel removes Hyperthreading,
some laptop CPUs have limited RAM located inside the CPU package).
The trick will be, to ship inferior machines with limitations, and make
the users like it.

The answer to power consumption in the server industry, is to... buy nuclear reactors.
I can remember a time, when a 500 watt chip was unthinkable (hard to cool), but here we are. It was not a problem for IBM at the time, which did an MCM
with 1000W consumption and two hose barbs for water cooling. It seems we've caught
up to IBM, but with smaller packages (with hose barbs on them).

Enjoy your current machine then (with both UEFI and CSM, and RAM slots).

Paul

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On 10/5/2024 5:02 AM, John Hall wrote:

I'm wondering why you cross-posted this to the Windows 10 group. I
suppose some Windows 10 users might be so impressed by 24H2 that they
will decide to switch to Windows 11, which would justify the xpost.

Usenet manners seem to be a thing of the past. We're lucky that
the OP didn't crosspost it to alt.guns.maga or alt.trans.trauma.

There are also a surprising number of people who take Microsoft
marketing as marching orders. I'm guessing that Zoopla has never
even reflected on whether to move to Win11. Microsoft gave the
order and it's easier to follow that than to think. I see that on Reddit.
Over and over people post in a panic: "My computer is almost
new. What happens when Microsoft stops supporting it?!" They
think it's going to turn into a malware infection and they'll be forced
to buy a new one or switch to Win11.

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Zoopla <noreply@zoopla.com> wrote:

Path: ...!newsfeed.bofh.team!paganini.bofh.team!not-for-mail

paganini with its unregistered (no login, no account) access is slowly
becoming the new Google Groups.

Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.os.windows-10

Irrelevevant to Windows 10. Zoopla cross-posted to an unrelated
newsgroup, Windows 10, hence their post is spam here.

Note: Reply only submitted to the Windows 10 newsgroup.

24H2 is here. ...

Anyone ever seen this Zoopla poster before? Seems a one-off poster.

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Zoopla wrote:

24H2 is here.

Not exactly earth-shattering, is it?

I like the return of text labels for cost/paste in explorer context menus

Task Manager has a new icon.

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In alt.comp.os.windows-10 Zoopla <noreply@zoopla.com> wrote:

24H2 is here. See this image:

https://i.imgur.com/w6Dod0H.png

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

Why post in W10 newsgroup?
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On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 20:35:52 +0100, Brian Gregory wrote:

Yes.

I've upgraded both my PCs with only fairly minor problems so far.

It's not offered through the usual Windows Updates? Cause I'm still on
23H2.

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s|b wrote:

Brian Gregory wrote:

I've upgraded both my PCs with only fairly minor problems so far.

It's not offered through the usual Windows Updates?

Not yet, I downloaded the ISO and mounted it, updated from that. You
can also use the Media Creation Tool method.

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On 07/10/2024 17:52, s|b wrote:

On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 20:35:52 +0100, Brian Gregory wrote:

Yes.

I've upgraded both my PCs with only fairly minor problems so far.

It's not offered through the usual Windows Updates? Cause I'm still on
23H2.

You need to enable "Get the latest updates as soon as they're
available". This is in settings windows updates panel.

<https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/get-windows-updates-as-soon-as-they-re-available-for-your-device-cad7b32b-001e-435b-9110-f18309b54168>

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On Mon, 10/7/2024 12:52 PM, s|b wrote:

On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 20:35:52 +0100, Brian Gregory wrote:

Yes.

I've upgraded both my PCs with only fairly minor problems so far.

It's not offered through the usual Windows Updates? Cause I'm still on
23H2.

Brandon already got his.

I think they're playing favorites.

https://blogs.windows.com/wp-content/uploads/prod/sites/44/2024/05/24h2-rp.png

*******

The Vice President of Slowness has this to say:

"Microsoft is slowly rolling out 24H2 to existing devices. “We are taking a phased
approach with the 2024 Update rollout, based on when data shows your device is ready
and you will have a great experience,” explains John Cable, vice president of
program management for Windows servicing and delivery. “The first phase will start
over the coming weeks. We will begin with eligible devices running Windows 11,
version 22H2 and 23H22 for those who have previously opted in <===
to be amongst the first to experience new enhancements.”

previously opted in == "Get the Latest Updates as soon as they are available"

Which of course, will install the Preview security update, instead of
doing what you want.

Wait until at least the end of tomorrow (Patch Tuesday Oct8,2024), before clicking
that toggle in Windows Update. Allow the October patches to install first.

Then, it may be offered to you. But if you have any "blockers" on the PC,
such as a copy of the PC game "Asphalt", you will not be offered the upgrade immediately.

It might even need the servicing stack update from October Cumulative,
to get the ball rolling.

The process is intended to be mysterious.

Paul

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On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 00:35:48 +0000, Chan wrote:

You need to enable "Get the latest updates as soon as they're
available". This is in settings windows updates panel.

<https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/get-windows-updates-as-soon-as-they-re-available-for-your-device-cad7b32b-001e-435b-9110-f18309b54168>

Tnx for the info!

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s|b

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On Mon, 7 Oct 2024 18:55:50 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

Not yet, I downloaded the ISO and mounted it, updated from that. You
can also use the Media Creation Tool method.

Ah, OK. That's very brave of you. (-:

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s|b

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s|b wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Not yet, I downloaded the ISO and mounted it, updated from that. You
can also use the Media Creation Tool method.

Ah, OK. That's very brave of you. (-:

This is my "home" machine, the "work" machine will wait ...

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On Tue, 10/8/2024 5:52 AM, s|b wrote:

On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 00:35:48 +0000, Chan wrote:

You need to enable "Get the latest updates as soon as they're
available". This is in settings windows updates panel.

<https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/get-windows-updates-as-soon-as-they-re-available-for-your-device-cad7b32b-001e-435b-9110-f18309b54168>

Tnx for the info!

Just don't click that too soon.

Wait for Patch Tuesday packages to complete
installation, before using the button and seeing
if your Upgrade is queued. It could be a few hours
yet, before it is time to try it.

Paul

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On Tue, 10/8/2024 8:32 PM, MajorLanGod wrote:

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote in news:ve3m3l$28bqu$1@dont-email.me:

On Tue, 10/8/2024 5:52 AM, s|b wrote:

On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 00:35:48 +0000, Chan wrote:

You need to enable "Get the latest updates as soon as they're
available". This is in settings windows updates panel.

<https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/get-windows-updates-as-s
oon-as-they-re-available-for-your-device-cad7b32b-001e-435b-9110-f183
09b54168>

Tnx for the info!

Just don't click that too soon.

Wait for Patch Tuesday packages to complete
installation, before using the button and seeing
if your Upgrade is queued. It could be a few hours
yet, before it is time to try it.

Paul

Since it has been about a week and I haven't heard any screams I'll
probably go ahead and update since I got my notification today.

Do a backup and push the button.

Make sure you have enough disk space.

Paul

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