Until recently I had an extension in whatever browser I was using at the
time (Chrome, Edge or Opera), that with one click sent the current page
to my email client (Thunderbird or Outlook).
Now, none of the available extensions will do that. Clicking them
briefly opens the egg-timer icon, then .... nothing.
I'm on Windows 10 and the only security is Windows Defender
Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
Until recently I had an extension in whatever browser I was using at the
time (Chrome, Edge or Opera), that with one click sent the current page
to my email client (Thunderbird or Outlook).
Now, none of the available extensions will do that. Clicking them
briefly opens the egg-timer icon, then .... nothing.
I'm on Windows 10 and the only security is Windows Defender
E-mail clients are not web browsers. If you paste HTML code into an
e-mail, very likely it will contain code that will not be rendered
within an e-mail client. Some have a "view in web browser", but not
all. Just because your e-mail client might have the option doesn't mean
your recipients do. You don't send web pages. You send e-mails which
have limited supported for HTML. For example, e-mail clients should
NEVER run any Javascript, and the vast majority of web sites these days
use Javascript.
To send a page, paste the URL to it in your message. Or, save the web
page to an .html file, and attach that, so the recipient can use a web browser to view the web page. Saving a web page isn't just about saving
the HTML code for that web page. It's about saving the CSS files,
images, scripts, or any other external resources the web page
references. A web browser will properly render a web page. By
necessity for security, an e-mail client will not.
Just because you can see a web page doesn't mean what you attach to an
e-mail can be viewed by your recipient. You can try to crawl a web page
to gather up all its resources to pack inside an archive (.zip) file
hoping the relative linkages are valid, but that doesn't mean a
recipient opening a local file will see the web page correctly. Give
them the URL to the web page.
Cannot address why some un-named add-on no longer works, or what it was supposed to do.
Until recently I had an extension in whatever browser I was using at the
time (Chrome, Edge or Opera), that with one click sent the current page
to my email client (Thunderbird or Outlook).
Now, none of the available extensions will do that. Clicking them
briefly opens the egg-timer icon, then .... nothing.
I'm on Windows 10 and the only security is Windows Defender
In all versions of Firefox, you can put an icon on the toolbar, that when clicked, will open aFor the OP: if you customize the toolbar you'll find a email icon.
compose window in Thunderbird with the URL attached. To send the email all you have to do is add
any text you wish and enter the address of the recipient.
Until recently I had an extension in whatever browser I was using at the
time (Chrome, Edge or Opera), that with one click sent the current page
to my email client (Thunderbird or Outlook).
Now, none of the available extensions will do that. Clicking them
briefly opens the egg-timer icon, then .... nothing.
I'm on Windows 10 and the only security is Windows Defender
On 9/30/24 01:30 PM, knuttle wrote:
In all versions of Firefox, you can put an icon on the toolbar, thatFor the OP: if you customize the toolbar you'll find a email icon.
when clicked, will open a compose window in Thunderbird with the URL
attached. To send the email all you have to do is add any text you
wish and enter the address of the recipient.
On 9/30/2024 11:34 AM, Jim the Geordie wrote:
Until recently I had an extension in whatever browser I was using at
the time (Chrome, Edge or Opera), that with one click sent the current
page to my email client (Thunderbird or Outlook).
Now, none of the available extensions will do that. Clicking them
briefly opens the egg-timer icon, then .... nothing.
I'm on Windows 10 and the only security is Windows Defender
 As Vanguard said, send a link, not the page. People sometimes
send pages to me and I just ignore it. It's a big, unreadable mess,
if it comes through at all.
 Another option would be to just copy the actual text, then paste
that into an email or save it as a TXT file and send that. If that
seems like too much trouble then you might need to look at whether
the page was worth sending in the first place.
Effectively, what the extensions do/did was copy the link from the
browser to the email client in a new mail page without having to
copy and paste.
On 30/09/2024 17:05, VanguardLH wrote:
Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
Until recently I had an extension in whatever browser I was using at the >>> time (Chrome, Edge or Opera), that with one click sent the current page
to my email client (Thunderbird or Outlook).
Now, none of the available extensions will do that. Clicking them
briefly opens the egg-timer icon, then .... nothing.
I'm on Windows 10 and the only security is Windows Defender
E-mail clients are not web browsers. If you paste HTML code into an
e-mail, very likely it will contain code that will not be rendered
within an e-mail client. Some have a "view in web browser", but not
all. Just because your e-mail client might have the option doesn't mean
your recipients do. You don't send web pages. You send e-mails which
have limited supported for HTML. For example, e-mail clients should
NEVER run any Javascript, and the vast majority of web sites these days
use Javascript.
To send a page, paste the URL to it in your message. Or, save the web
page to an .html file, and attach that, so the recipient can use a web
browser to view the web page. Saving a web page isn't just about saving
the HTML code for that web page. It's about saving the CSS files,
images, scripts, or any other external resources the web page
references. A web browser will properly render a web page. By
necessity for security, an e-mail client will not.
Just because you can see a web page doesn't mean what you attach to an
e-mail can be viewed by your recipient. You can try to crawl a web page
to gather up all its resources to pack inside an archive (.zip) file
hoping the relative linkages are valid, but that doesn't mean a
recipient opening a local file will see the web page correctly. Give
them the URL to the web page.
Cannot address why some un-named add-on no longer works, or what it was
supposed to do.
Effectively, what the extensions do/did was copy the link from the
browser to the email client in a new mail page without having to copy
and paste.
On 30 Sep 2024, Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10:
Effectively, what the extensions do/did was copy the link from the
browser to the email client in a new mail page without having to
copy and paste.
Firefox has a "Email link" menu option, which I find very useful. It
starts a blank email in my client (Thunderbird) and automatically pasts
the link into the body of the message. Unfortunately, I don't find a
similar feature in Chrome-based browsers. I guess in that case you have
to manually copy 'n paste the link into your email.
On 30/09/2024 18:35, Newyana2 wrote:
On 9/30/2024 11:34 AM, Jim the Geordie wrote:
Until recently I had an extension in whatever browser I was using at
the time (Chrome, Edge or Opera), that with one click sent the current
page to my email client (Thunderbird or Outlook).
Now, none of the available extensions will do that. Clicking them
briefly opens the egg-timer icon, then .... nothing.
I'm on Windows 10 and the only security is Windows Defender
As Vanguard said, send a link, not the page. People sometimes
send pages to me and I just ignore it. It's a big, unreadable mess,
if it comes through at all.
Another option would be to just copy the actual text, then paste
that into an email or save it as a TXT file and send that. If that
seems like too much trouble then you might need to look at whether
the page was worth sending in the first place.
Sorry if I confused you or Vanguard, but of course I meant sent the
link. And yes I can copy and paste, but the real question was:"why do
all the extensions fail now, when they worked before?"
If you don't know, don't answer.
Firefox exceedingly slow (for me) compared to all three browsers I
mentioned.
On 30/09/2024 19:07, Jim the Geordie wrote:
Firefox exceedingly slow (for me) compared to all three browsers I
mentioned.
Why are you still using Firefox? It's a complete waste of time because
you find it exceedingly slow. People generally move away from something
that they don't find it suitable for their needs. Go and use one of the browsers you find it faster for your needs.
Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
On 30/09/2024 18:35, Newyana2 wrote:
On 9/30/2024 11:34 AM, Jim the Geordie wrote:
Until recently I had an extension in whatever browser I was using at
the time (Chrome, Edge or Opera), that with one click sent the current >>>> page to my email client (Thunderbird or Outlook).
Now, none of the available extensions will do that. Clicking them
briefly opens the egg-timer icon, then .... nothing.
I'm on Windows 10 and the only security is Windows Defender
 As Vanguard said, send a link, not the page. People sometimes
send pages to me and I just ignore it. It's a big, unreadable mess,
if it comes through at all.
 Another option would be to just copy the actual text, then paste
that into an email or save it as a TXT file and send that. If that
seems like too much trouble then you might need to look at whether
the page was worth sending in the first place.
Sorry if I confused you or Vanguard, but of course I meant sent the
link. And yes I can copy and paste, but the real question was:"why do
all the extensions fail now, when they worked before?"
If you don't know, don't answer.
Again, "Cannot address why some un-named add-on no longer works, or what
it was supposed to do."
Without knowing the extension, how are we supposed to know, or lookup
for you, whether or not it is compatible with your also un-named version
of Firefox. With changes in Firefox code, extensions can become incompatible, or superfluous. The extension author could simply abandon
the extension instead of removing it from the add-on store.
Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:I have found no web page that the URL can not be sent from Firefox to Thunderbird. You go to the url, if you decide to send it to someone
On 30/09/2024 17:05, VanguardLH wrote:
Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
Until recently I had an extension in whatever browser I was using at the >>>> time (Chrome, Edge or Opera), that with one click sent the current page >>>> to my email client (Thunderbird or Outlook).
Now, none of the available extensions will do that. Clicking them
briefly opens the egg-timer icon, then .... nothing.
I'm on Windows 10 and the only security is Windows Defender
E-mail clients are not web browsers. If you paste HTML code into an
e-mail, very likely it will contain code that will not be rendered
within an e-mail client. Some have a "view in web browser", but not
all. Just because your e-mail client might have the option doesn't mean >>> your recipients do. You don't send web pages. You send e-mails which
have limited supported for HTML. For example, e-mail clients should
NEVER run any Javascript, and the vast majority of web sites these days
use Javascript.
To send a page, paste the URL to it in your message. Or, save the web
page to an .html file, and attach that, so the recipient can use a web
browser to view the web page. Saving a web page isn't just about saving >>> the HTML code for that web page. It's about saving the CSS files,
images, scripts, or any other external resources the web page
references. A web browser will properly render a web page. By
necessity for security, an e-mail client will not.
Just because you can see a web page doesn't mean what you attach to an
e-mail can be viewed by your recipient. You can try to crawl a web page >>> to gather up all its resources to pack inside an archive (.zip) file
hoping the relative linkages are valid, but that doesn't mean a
recipient opening a local file will see the web page correctly. Give
them the URL to the web page.
Cannot address why some un-named add-on no longer works, or what it was
supposed to do.
Effectively, what the extensions do/did was copy the link from the
browser to the email client in a new mail page without having to copy
and paste.
Do you have to select the URL before you can copy it? If so, in
Firefox, I just highlight the URL string, right-click on it to get the context menu, and use Copy Link. Then, in an e-mail, do a paste. Not
sure that is any more difficult than having to use the same context menu
to ask an add-on to do the copy of the string.
Some web pages use Javascript which bars copying (so you cannot paste).
If you try to highlight the URL, and then try to copy, nothing copies in
the Windows clipboard. One workaround is to disable Javascript, refresh
the page to see if the URL string is still present, and, if so, copy it
(to later paste elsewhere).
Else, without disabling Javascript which itself can disable copy/paste,
I use an add-on called "Copy text of element". All URLs (aka
hyperlinks) are text strings. This add-on adds a "Copy text of element"
to the right-click context menu.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/copy-element-s-text
However, with Javascript used to build a web page, what looks like a URL string could be, for example, a clickable image. The script handles the click action on the object. It's an image, not a string, so you cannot
copy the URL string; however, you could copy the image, and paste that
into your e-mail, and let the recipient decipher out the string.
On 30/09/2024 22:46, James Dode wrote:Could it be like Firefox, they change the underlying code to the WE
On 30/09/2024 19:07, Jim the Geordie wrote:I don't use Firefox.
Firefox exceedingly slow (for me) compared to all three browsers I
mentioned.
Why are you still using Firefox? It's a complete waste of time because
you find it exceedingly slow. People generally move away from
something that they don't find it suitable for their needs. Go and use
one of the browsers you find it faster for your needs.
The solutions to my question here mainly/all referred to a solution
using Firefox. I am not going to change to Firefox to avoid copying and pasting.
To repeat my question. Why do "send link by email" extensions not work,
when they used to?
I would rather have one, but it's not the end of life as we know it to
do without.
On 09/30/2024 6:01 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
On 30/09/2024 17:05, VanguardLH wrote:
Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
Until recently I had an extension in whatever browser I was using at the >>>>> time (Chrome, Edge or Opera), that with one click sent the current page >>>>> to my email client (Thunderbird or Outlook).
Now, none of the available extensions will do that. Clicking them
briefly opens the egg-timer icon, then .... nothing.
I'm on Windows 10 and the only security is Windows Defender
E-mail clients are not web browsers. If you paste HTML code into an
e-mail, very likely it will contain code that will not be rendered
within an e-mail client. Some have a "view in web browser", but not
all. Just because your e-mail client might have the option doesn't mean >>>> your recipients do. You don't send web pages. You send e-mails which >>>> have limited supported for HTML. For example, e-mail clients should
NEVER run any Javascript, and the vast majority of web sites these days >>>> use Javascript.
To send a page, paste the URL to it in your message. Or, save the web >>>> page to an .html file, and attach that, so the recipient can use a web >>>> browser to view the web page. Saving a web page isn't just about saving >>>> the HTML code for that web page. It's about saving the CSS files,
images, scripts, or any other external resources the web page
references. A web browser will properly render a web page. By
necessity for security, an e-mail client will not.
Just because you can see a web page doesn't mean what you attach to an >>>> e-mail can be viewed by your recipient. You can try to crawl a web page >>>> to gather up all its resources to pack inside an archive (.zip) file
hoping the relative linkages are valid, but that doesn't mean a
recipient opening a local file will see the web page correctly. Give
them the URL to the web page.
Cannot address why some un-named add-on no longer works, or what it was >>>> supposed to do.
Effectively, what the extensions do/did was copy the link from the
browser to the email client in a new mail page without having to copy
and paste.
Do you have to select the URL before you can copy it? If so, in
Firefox, I just highlight the URL string, right-click on it to get the
context menu, and use Copy Link. Then, in an e-mail, do a paste. Not
sure that is any more difficult than having to use the same context menu
to ask an add-on to do the copy of the string.
Some web pages use Javascript which bars copying (so you cannot paste).
If you try to highlight the URL, and then try to copy, nothing copies in
the Windows clipboard. One workaround is to disable Javascript, refresh
the page to see if the URL string is still present, and, if so, copy it
(to later paste elsewhere).
Else, without disabling Javascript which itself can disable copy/paste,
I use an add-on called "Copy text of element". All URLs (aka
hyperlinks) are text strings. This add-on adds a "Copy text of element"
to the right-click context menu.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/copy-element-s-text
However, with Javascript used to build a web page, what looks like a URL
string could be, for example, a clickable image. The script handles the
click action on the object. It's an image, not a string, so you cannot
copy the URL string; however, you could copy the image, and paste that
into your e-mail, and let the recipient decipher out the string.
I have found no web page that the URL can not be sent from Firefox to Thunderbird. You go to the url, if you decide to send it to someone
click and the envelop in the Toolbar. If it is not there right click
select Customize and drag to the tool bar.
On 30/09/2024 23:04, VanguardLH wrote:
Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
On 30/09/2024 18:35, Newyana2 wrote:
On 9/30/2024 11:34 AM, Jim the Geordie wrote:
Until recently I had an extension in whatever browser I was using at >>>>> the time (Chrome, Edge or Opera), that with one click sent the current >>>>> page to my email client (Thunderbird or Outlook).
Now, none of the available extensions will do that. Clicking them
briefly opens the egg-timer icon, then .... nothing.
I'm on Windows 10 and the only security is Windows Defender
  As Vanguard said, send a link, not the page. People sometimes
send pages to me and I just ignore it. It's a big, unreadable mess,
if it comes through at all.
  Another option would be to just copy the actual text, then paste >>>> that into an email or save it as a TXT file and send that. If that
seems like too much trouble then you might need to look at whether
the page was worth sending in the first place.
Sorry if I confused you or Vanguard, but of course I meant sent the
link. And yes I can copy and paste, but the real question was:"why do
all the extensions fail now, when they worked before?"
If you don't know, don't answer.
Again, "Cannot address why some un-named add-on no longer works, or what
it was supposed to do."
Without knowing the extension, how are we supposed to know, or lookup
for you, whether or not it is compatible with your also un-named version
of Firefox. With changes in Firefox code, extensions can become
incompatible, or superfluous. The extension author could simply abandon
the extension instead of removing it from the add-on store.
That may well be true. All I was asking was 'has anybody here use such an extension and had the same experience'.
If you haven't had a similar experience, then don't answer!
On 30/09/2024 18:46, Big Al wrote:
On 9/30/24 01:30 PM, knuttle wrote:
In all versions of Firefox, you can put an icon on the toolbar, that when clicked, will open a compose window in Thunderbird with the URL attached. To send the email all you have to do is add any text you wish and enter the address of the recipient.For the OP: if you customize the toolbar you'll find a email icon.
Firefox exceedingly slow (for me) compared to all three browsers I mentioned.
That may well be true. All I was asking was 'has anybody here use such
an extension and had the same experience'.
If you haven't had a similar experience, then don't answer!
On Mon, 9/30/2024 2:07 PM, Jim the Geordie wrote:recipient.
On 30/09/2024 18:46, Big Al wrote:
On 9/30/24 01:30 PM, knuttle wrote:
In all versions of Firefox, you can put an icon on the toolbar, that when clicked, will open a compose window in Thunderbird with the URL attached. To send the email all you have to do is add any text you wish and enter the address of the
For the OP: if you customize the toolbar you'll find a email icon.
Firefox exceedingly slow (for me) compared to all three browsers I mentioned.
Do you know how to do maintenance on a browser ?
It's pretty simple really.
In the following, the 1234abcd string is a stand-in for a randomly assigned string.
Check all the folders in Profiles, do Properties, the *biggest* folder is likely
to be the *active* profile :-) This beats trying to read profiles.ini file in Notepad,
and make sense of the logic in there.
1) cache2 (lotta files, delete the contents while Firefox stopped, lotta files make Firefox slow to start.
The cache can be relocated to RAM, and then never bother you again, using config editor.
Inadvertently bumping the cache max size upwards, shoots yourself in the foot.)
C:\Users\YourName\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\1234abcd.default\cache2\entries [11,000 files right now]
This is not a big savings. I sometimes clean this cesspit, before running my backup.
It's only in pathological cases (user fiddling with settings), that it really needs a cleaning.
The files in cache2 are anonymized, which is why the names are not what you were expecting.
2) Files with +++ in the name. It's a modern cookie/garbage folder.
https+++www.youtube.com/ # It's a folder, delete it, and fifty two other folders like it...
C:\Users\YourName\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\1234abcd.default\storage\default\ +++ folders...
Privacy compromising. And on some tracker sites, may be a contributor to sluggish scrolling!
3) cookies.sqlite
webarchive.sqlite <=== above 10 MB, is a pest, makes Firefox stutter or bog, like your symptoms
wevarchive.sqlite can single-handedly slow things down at 10MB or above.
C:\Users\YourName\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\1234abcd.default\
There can be three files there, like .wal file. If you see three files, that's
a dirty shutdown, and those are journal files. Like, if there are three files
with cookie.xxxxxx type naming, you delete all three. Some installations seem
to always shut down dirty. Ones that shut cleanly, have only the two named files.
If you did not stop Firefox properly, before starting this cleaning exercise, yes,
there will be three files then too.
While cookies.sqlite can hold passwords or shit (I *used* to do that), you should
really have a password manager for accounts, and not be relying on cookies. As
a consequence of not relying on cookies for anything, I can delete cookies while
Firefox is stopped... without consequence.
CCleaner or BleachBit could likely do a better job than my recipe above,
and that's just an indication of how to tune your errant browser for better behavior. Chrome is intentionally chock-full of databases, to thwart people like me.
And the nice thing about Firefox, is the recipe works on all platforms.
The difference is, the tasking and threading on some OSes, is better than
on Windows, and there is a tendency for the performance to not suck as bad. That is one of the differences. Firefox is, after all, written for another platform, and the effort to make it run on Windows, does not include a lot
of "parallel code only for Windows" to make it suck less. For example, things like OpenGL are used instead of DirectX3D, because OpenGL is available on three
or four ecosystems, while DirectX3D is only on one ecosystem (Windows). Firefox
then, writes to the most common subsystem (even Windows has OpenGL).
Paul
If we had to record and memorize each and every fault that happened
on a normal day in Windows, we'd go insane.
| Sysop: | Keyop |
|---|---|
| Location: | Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK |
| Users: | 361 |
| Nodes: | 16 (2 / 14) |
| Uptime: | 123:27:59 |
| Calls: | 7,716 |
| Files: | 12,861 |
| Messages: | 5,727,955 |