On 14/9/2024, Ant wrote:
It's quite annoying.
It's alphabetical and it has some time-based additions so it can change constantly depending on what programs you've recently added or updated.
Best is to just pin a folder containing your program shortcuts to the taskbar.
Then you can organize that folder of shortcuts as you wish, and they won't
be messed with by Microsoft. That folder can be hierarchical if you like.
This taskbar pinned folder of shortcuts has existed since WinXP days.
But it no longer works on Windows 11 for reasons known only to Microsoft.
This taskbar pinned folder of shortcuts has existed since WinXP days.
But it no longer works on Windows 11 for reasons known only to Microsoft.
Wow, thank you for the quick answer! Ugh, W11 removed this? Annoying. :(\
It's quite annoying.
On 14/9/2024, Ant wrote:
This taskbar pinned folder of shortcuts has existed since WinXP days.
But it no longer works on Windows 11 for reasons known only to Microsoft.
Wow, thank you for the quick answer! Ugh, W11 removed this? Annoying. :(\
Just to be clear, you do that with the Windows 10 taskbar toolbar menu. Rightclick on the taskbar > Toolbars > New toolbar > pick your folder
This creates a perfectly hierarchical accordion style menu just like
Windows XP had which will pull out when you need it (and which you can compress on the taskbar so that only the name "Start" shows up there).
It's amazing that Microsoft removed this accordion menu feature in Windows 11, where they probably want to force people to use their alphabet menu.
Another way to make your life easier is to periodically make a copy of '%appdata%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu' (which is for the individual user) and '%programdata%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu' (which is for everyone).
Then, when they get changed, instead of re-arranging Microsoft's mess,
you just overwrite the current folder with those backup preserved copies.
Or, even better, just copy those two folders to a new folder and then pin that personalized customized start menu folder to the Windows 10 taskbar?
As I said, it's too bad Microsoft removed pinned cascade menus from Win11.
Frankie <frankie@nospam.usa> wrote:
On 14/9/2024, Ant wrote:
This taskbar pinned folder of shortcuts has existed since WinXP days.Wow, thank you for the quick answer! Ugh, W11 removed this? Annoying. :(\
But it no longer works on Windows 11 for reasons known only to Microsoft. >>>
Just to be clear, you do that with the Windows 10 taskbar toolbar menu.
Rightclick on the taskbar > Toolbars > New toolbar > pick your folder
This creates a perfectly hierarchical accordion style menu just like
Windows XP had which will pull out when you need it (and which you can
compress on the taskbar so that only the name "Start" shows up there).
It's amazing that Microsoft removed this accordion menu feature in Windows >> 11, where they probably want to force people to use their alphabet menu.
Another way to make your life easier is to periodically make a copy of
'%appdata%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu' (which is for the individual user) >> and '%programdata%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu' (which is for everyone).
I just made two new toolbar based on thees two directories. Is there a
way to rename them in my taskbar? I have two "Programs" now.
You are responding to Frankie but I don't see those posts on e-s server. What news server are youThen, when they get changed, instead of re-arranging Microsoft's mess,
you just overwrite the current folder with those backup preserved copies.
Or, even better, just copy those two folders to a new folder and then pin
that personalized customized start menu folder to the Windows 10 taskbar?
As I said, it's too bad Microsoft removed pinned cascade menus from Win11.
Yeah, that's bad. Does W11 still rearrange customized Start menu too like in W10?
On 9/14/24 02:50 PM, Ant wrote:
Frankie <frankie@nospam.usa> wrote:
As I said, it's too bad Microsoft removed pinned cascade menus from
Win11.
Yeah, that's bad. Does W11 still rearrange customized Start menu too
like in W10?
You are responding to Frankie but I don't see those posts on e-s
server. What news server are you using?
I don't have any filters deleting any messages, I do have a few marking messages are 'read' tho but not for Frankie.
Another way to make your life easier is to periodically make a copy of
'%appdata%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu' (which is for the individual user) >> and '%programdata%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu' (which is for everyone).
I just made two new toolbar based on thees two directories. Is there a
way to rename them in my taskbar? I have two "Programs" now.
I just made two new toolbar based on thees two directories. Is there a
way to rename them in my taskbar? I have two "Programs" now.
It's just a folder so whatever you name the folder will be the name in the taskbar. You can also cascade out the menu a bit and then right click on
any subfolders (in the menu that accordions outward) and "Open" from there.
You are responding to Frankie but I don't see those posts on e-s
server. What news server are you using?
I don't have any filters deleting any messages, I do have a few marking
messages are 'read' tho but not for Frankie.
Same thing for me. I too was wondering about that.
On 9/14/2024 2:34 PM, Big Al wrote:
On 9/14/24 02:50 PM, Ant wrote:
Frankie <frankie@nospam.usa> wrote:
As I said, it's too bad Microsoft removed pinned cascade menus from Win11. >>>Yeah, that's bad. Does W11 still rearrange customized Start menu too like in W10?
You are responding to Frankie but I don't see those posts on e-s server. What news server are you using?
I don't have any filters deleting any messages, I do have a few marking messages are 'read' tho but not for Frankie.
Same thing for me. I too was wondering about that.
On 9/14/24 02:50 PM, Ant wrote:
Frankie <frankie@nospam.usa> wrote:
On 14/9/2024, Ant wrote:
This taskbar pinned folder of shortcuts has existed since WinXP days. >>>> But it no longer works on Windows 11 for reasons known only to Microsoft.
Wow, thank you for the quick answer! Ugh, W11 removed this? Annoying. :(\
Just to be clear, you do that with the Windows 10 taskbar toolbar menu.
Rightclick on the taskbar > Toolbars > New toolbar > pick your folder
This creates a perfectly hierarchical accordion style menu just like
Windows XP had which will pull out when you need it (and which you can
compress on the taskbar so that only the name "Start" shows up there).
It's amazing that Microsoft removed this accordion menu feature in Windows >> 11, where they probably want to force people to use their alphabet menu.
Another way to make your life easier is to periodically make a copy of
'%appdata%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu' (which is for the individual user)
and '%programdata%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu' (which is for everyone).
I just made two new toolbar based on thees two directories. Is there a
way to rename them in my taskbar? I have two "Programs" now.
Then, when they get changed, instead of re-arranging Microsoft's mess,
you just overwrite the current folder with those backup preserved copies.
Or, even better, just copy those two folders to a new folder and then pin >> that personalized customized start menu folder to the Windows 10 taskbar?
As I said, it's too bad Microsoft removed pinned cascade menus from Win11.
Yeah, that's bad. Does W11 still rearrange customized Start menu too like in W10?You are responding to Frankie but I don't see those posts on e-s server. What news server are you
using?
I don't have any filters deleting any messages, I do have a few marking messages are 'read' tho but
not for Frankie.
On 9/14/2024 2:34 PM, Big Al wrote:
On 9/14/24 02:50 PM, Ant wrote:
Frankie <frankie@nospam.usa> wrote:
As I said, it's too bad Microsoft removed pinned cascade menus from
Win11.
Yeah, that's bad. Does W11 still rearrange customized Start menu too
like in W10?
You are responding to Frankie but I don't see those posts on e-s
server. What news server are you using?
I don't have any filters deleting any messages, I do have a few marking messages are 'read' tho but not for Frankie.
Same thing for me. I too was wondering about that.
It's quite annoying. I have to keep rearragning my stuff back! :(
Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
It's quite annoying. I have to keep rearragning my stuff back! :(
Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
https://zimage.com/~ant/temp/w10startMenu/ for my screen shots of before
and after if they help.
Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
It's quite annoying. I have to keep rearragning my stuff back! :(
Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
https://zimage.com/~ant/temp/w10startMenu/ for my screen shots of before
and after if they help.
I am not alone now: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-start-win_menu/w10s-start-menu-keep-getting-rearranged-often/25abaf9d-42c5-4c3c-a145-6f85dbf4b57a?messageId=60ecef3f-7dc4-4797-bc5b-b0f40a44dfde
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